Let me just clarify my previous email. I would like to see the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace function in and available for the default behavior. I like the fact that there will now be an easy way to disable it (there may have always been, but I just haven't needed it), but the default should remain enabled. <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Scott Robbins <<a href="mailto:scottro@nyc.rr.com">scottro@nyc.rr.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d">On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 08:22:25PM -0700, Shawn Badger wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:25 PM, John Summerfield <<a href="mailto:debian@herakles.homelinux.org">debian@herakles.homelinux.org</a> > > wrote: > > Jesse Keating wrote: > > > ---- snip --- > > > > X Server > > The key combination Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to kill the X server has been > disabled by default. To get this behaviour back, add the the line > > Option "DontZap" "false" > > </div><div class="Ih2E3d">> Please make this default to "true." False _might_ be okay in RHEL, but I > have my doubts even then. At least the audience is different and the > arguments for "false" a little stronger. </div>Hrrm, I would think in RH, they really better not do that. If RHEL is aimed at sysadmins, they, of all people will NOT want this idiot proofing. So I would respectfully disagree with Shawn's feeling that it might be OK in RH. It most definitely will NOT. Believe me, there's enough outcry among sysadmins about the gradual move of Fedora towards it being more Windows like all the time. I say that with respect to the developers, who are caught between the proverbial rock and hard place--more and more newcomers venture into Linux, and they make strenuous efforts to accomodate such newcomers, but in this case, such things continue to drive away those who have been RH/Fedora users for years. I base that not only on what I see on Fedora forums but various other technical lists and private correspondence with friends in the field. As the saying goes, it's impossible to idiot proof anything, nature will always build a better idiot, but seriously--to put such a desktop/newcomer oriented option into an enterprise system seems somewhat ill-advised at best. It's just one more thing for a sysadmin to fix when installing on a new server, and sysadmins usually have enough to do. Especially if they have to create an xorg.conf to get that option in there. That's almost adding insult to injury. :) <div class="Ih2E3d"> -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver <a href="http://pgp.mit.edu" target="_blank">pgp.mit.edu</a> --recv-keys EB3467D6 </div>Willow: Oz is a werewolf. Buffy: It's a long story. Oz: Got bit. Buffy: But obviously not that long. <div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"> -- fedora-test-list mailing list <a href="mailto:fedora-test-list@redhat.com">fedora-test-list@redhat.com</a> To unsubscribe: <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list</a> </div></div></blockquote></div>