<html><head><style type="text/css"></style></head><body><div style="font-family:tahoma,new york,times,serif;font-size:10pt"><div>Hi , Thank you for your comments . I am so sorry to have a complete different view and opinion. Have a nice day. Thanks. Andrei. <hr>   <ul><li>From: Michael Schwendt <mschwendt tmp0701 nospam arcor de></li><li>To: fedora-test-list redhat com</li><li>Subject: Re: updates repo admission checklist hole</li><li>Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:54:14 +0200</li></ul>   <hr>   <pre>On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 15:19:20 -0700 (PDT), Suhan wrote: >> It lloks that the hole is still open as now swig package update brokes the update. >> >> I think there is a hole in QA process that allows untested packages to get into the update repo. >> >It's a pitty you don't understand any of this, and that instead of asking >further questions you post crap in bugzilla. >> PS: I find here a policy described: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageSubmissionQAPolicy">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageSubmissionQAPolicy</a> >> but there is no detailed QA Check list , can someone help me with some pointers to follow for more details? >> > That document is several years old. Its title is "Old Package Submission > and QA Policies used at fedora.us". Its header says "This is a copy of > the old document from fedora.us." > It doesn't apply to fedoraproject.org. > As what it still does in the Wiki, I don't know. I don't know either > who takes care of the Wiki, which has become worse since we originally > started with using one. > How did you find that page in the Wiki? By searching or by following > links in the Packaging Guidelines? > [...] I was searching for some more info but it seems I outdated info that confused me. > Back to the swig update. There is no QA process, at least not for the > majority of packages. Here's the update ticket for swig: > <a rel="nofollow" href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-8145">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-8145</a> > As you can see, it got pushed directly to "stable", which didn't give > anybody a chance to test it before it landed in the repos. Only if it had > been pushed to testing, there would have been a window during which the > community could have tested it and could have used the "karma points" > voting system in bodhi, the Fedora Updates System. > And even if it didn't have broken deps, it could still suffer from further > breakage, which could only be found out with actual testing (done by > humans as well as automated tests). </pre></div><div style="font-family: tahoma,new york,times,serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><hr size="1">From: Suhan Andrei <sandi_ro@yahoo.com> To: fedora-test-list@redhat.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 1:19:20 AM Subject: Re: updates repo admission checklist hole <div style="font-family: tahoma,new york,times,serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div>HI , It lloks that the hole is still open as now swig package update brokes the update. $> yum update swig Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Setting up Update Process Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package swig.x86_64 0:1.3.39-1.fc10 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: perl(example) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 --> Processing Dependency: perl(it) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 --> Processing Dependency: perl(the) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 --> Processing Dependency: perl(argv) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 --> Running transaction check ---> Package jython-demo.x86_64 0:2.2.1-0.1.Release_2_2_1.1.2.fc10 set to be updated ---> Package swig.x86_64 0:1.3.39-1.fc10 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: perl(it) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 --> Processing Dependency: perl(the) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 --> Processing Dependency: perl(argv) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 --> Finished Dependency Resolution swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems --> Missing Dependency: perl(argv) is needed by package swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates) swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems --> Missing Dependency: perl(it) is needed by package swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates) swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems --> Missing Dependency: perl(the) is needed by package swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates) Error: Missing Dependency: perl(argv) is needed by package swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates) Error: Missing Dependency: perl(it) is needed by package swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates) Error: Missing Dependency: perl(the) is needed by package swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates) You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem You could try running: package-cleanup --problems package-cleanup --dupes rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest See more here: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508517">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508517</a> </div><div style="font-family: tahoma,new york,times,serif; font-size: 10pt;"> Andrei. <div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><hr size="1">From: Suhan Andrei <sandi_ro@yahoo.com> To: fedora-test-list@redhat.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:03:27 PM Subject: updates repo admission checklist hole <div style="font-family: tahoma,new york,times,serif; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div> <div style="font-family: tahoma,new york,times,serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt;"> <div>Hi , I think there is a hole in QA process that allows untested packages to get into the update repo. I may be wrong as well but at least please look into this: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508517">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508517</a> as this is a case where a broken package pollute the updates repository. I am referring about current state of synce-hal package as reported by yum : $yum list synce-hal Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Available Packages synce-hal.x86_64 0.13.1-3.fc10 updates PS: I find here a policy described: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageSubmissionQAPolicy">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageSubmissionQAPolicy</a> but there is no detailed QA Check list , can someone help me with some pointers to follow for more details? Thanks, Andrei. </div></div> </div></div> </div></div></div> </div></div></div> </body></html>