On 2/9/06, Karsten Wade <<a href="mailto:kwade@redhat.com">kwade@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 15:38 -0200, Hugo Cisneiros wrote: > Thomas Chung wrote: > > Hi Hugo, > > Hi, > > > We need *translation* not an *independent* content on different languages on our > > official fedora websites - <a href="http://fedora.redhat.com">http://fedora.redhat.com</a> and <a href="http://fedoraproject.org">http://fedoraproject.org</a> > > > > If you need to be put *independent* content, then I would suggest to setup *independent* > > web site with Fedora Logo upon approval. > > This is the question to discuss, why not put some new content in other > languages? After analyizing the content, one could translate to english > too. That's the same method, but in another order. Instead of English -> > OtherLanguage, it is OtherLanguage -> English. I definitely want to see this with other documentation. It should not matter what the source language is, as long as we have the ability to translate it. However, the Wiki is special, and I'm glad you brought this here to discuss. For every language that is adding original, language specific content, we need >1 editors who watch that content. With the formal documentation, we can get editors from each language to approve the content for publishing. That process needs to be in place for each non- English language for the Wiki, just like it is for the English portions. For example: <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SexCitationsTecken">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SexCitationsTecken</a></blockquote><div> Because I am a very curious person, what exactly is 'SexCitationsTecken' supposed to mean in English. </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Bob noticed this one last week from a search for "java". Investigation shows that i) it does not have an author stamp at the bottom,</blockquote><div> Any reason why the wiki itself doesn't show who the initial editor was, along with the current information about the most recent edit? If not, could this be added? </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> ii) it's last edited was a long time ago, and iii) the term SexCitationsTecken gets many google hits across various Wikis. We can therefore conclude that it must be a Wiki-specific piece of information. But in English, it looks like a pr0n Website defacement. I propose that each language that wants to put original content on any formal Fedora site, regardless of Wiki, XML, etc., needs to have the following: * 2 or more editors who watch all contributions, in the native language - we are currently at greater risk for unwanted mentions of how to install mp3 players, but over time we'll attract defacements * 1 or more translators who carry the content over to the English side of the Wiki. * Native language contributors who allow the above people to do their jobs. The editors/translators need to have established trust with the Fedora project, to know that they understand what and why content is forbidden, and that they will be accountable.</blockquote><div> I went through the entire setup to become a contributor process, but I can't remember seeing a list of these forbidden content. It woudl good if this could be more obvioous to editors. A declaration of expected content for the wiki would be nice. </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">- Karsten </blockquote></div>Good idea all in all however. -- As a boy I jumped through Windows, as a man I play with Penguins.