From triciamontreal at gmail.com Sun Oct 1 19:27:24 2006 From: triciamontreal at gmail.com (patricia campbell) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 15:27:24 -0400 Subject: [Fedora Women] Linux+DVD magazine, offer of cooperation In-Reply-To: <451BEB3A.1020101@fedoraproject.org> References: <200609260937.45409.anna.marcinkiewicz@software.com.pl> <451A3757.8040206@fedoraproject.org> <200609271648.37058.anna.marcinkiewicz@software.com.pl> <451BEB3A.1020101@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: That is too true!! > There are lots of women doing things with and for Fedora, but like women > all over the world we're ususally busy doing too much. I recently discovered the list & joined so I'm not an expert on that but i have been using linux since about 1992. I will be in between contracts in two weeks and may be able to write an article but not on the Fedora Women Project. If you were thinking about another subject let me know I may be able to give a Canadian perspective. Sincerely, Tricia From triciamontreal at gmail.com Sun Oct 1 19:32:51 2006 From: triciamontreal at gmail.com (patricia campbell) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 15:32:51 -0400 Subject: [Fedora Women] fedora & ntfs Message-ID: Hello All, I have been using redhat then fedora in my classes. I teach adult education on contract so often there is a Microsoft bias/history to overcome. I have been using knoppix cds at first to show them they can have an opsys for everywhere they go. Once we get into the subject further we install fedora core (latest stable version). Most are disappointed that they cannot access ntfs drives out of the box (often they install it dual boot w Windows of some variation). Are there intentions to include ntfs kernel modules & tools in later releases ??? It is easy enough for experienced people to add them (see www.linux-ntfs.org). However it probably stops a few from delving into linux any deeper. Lets face it Windows is ubiquitous but costly most people would be happy with an alternative but they cannot drop their windows investments (knowledge & software) that easily. One small step for fedora .... Regards, Tricia From karlie.robinson at fedoraproject.org Sun Oct 1 17:00:54 2006 From: karlie.robinson at fedoraproject.org (Karlie Robinson) Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 17:00:54 +0000 Subject: [Fedora Women] Linux+DVD magazine, offer of cooperation In-Reply-To: References: <200609260937.45409.anna.marcinkiewicz@software.com.pl> <451A3757.8040206@fedoraproject.org> <200609271648.37058.anna.marcinkiewicz@software.com.pl> <451BEB3A.1020101@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <451FF446.7030502@fedoraproject.org> Why don't we all sound off on what our main focus with Fedora is? Doesn't have to be a re-introduction, but enough info that I could possibly include it in the Linux+DVD article. We don't miss out on the opportunity to forward Fedora and Women in Linux. ~Karlie patricia campbell wrote: > That is too true!! > >> There are lots of women doing things with and for Fedora, but like women >> all over the world we're ususally busy doing too much. > > > I recently discovered the list & joined so I'm not an expert on that > but i have been using linux since about 1992. I will be in between > contracts in two weeks and may be able to write an article but not on > the Fedora Women Project. If you were thinking about another subject > let me know I may be able to give a Canadian perspective. > > Sincerely, > > Tricia > > From mefoster at gmail.com Mon Oct 2 14:34:32 2006 From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 16:34:32 +0200 Subject: [Fedora Women] fedora & ntfs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 01/10/06, patricia campbell wrote: > Are there intentions to include ntfs kernel modules & tools in later > releases ??? It is easy enough for experienced people to add them > (see www.linux-ntfs.org). However it probably stops a few from > delving into linux any deeper. Lets face it Windows is ubiquitous but > costly most people would be happy with an alternative but they cannot > drop their windows investments (knowledge & software) that easily. > One small step for fedora .... As far as I can tell, Fedora is never going to include ntfs support -- the Fedora legal group seems to have re-examined the issue in 2005 and decided again that it definitely wouldn't be included: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=65749#c24 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLegalIssues (search for NTFS) Aside from linux-ntfs.org, another way to install NTFS drivers on Fedora is to add the yum repository at http://rpm.livna.org/ and do "yum install kmod-ntfs". Also a great way to get other "free-as-in-beer" things that Fedora won't ever include, like nVidia/ATI graphics drivers and DVD-playing software. :) MEF -- Mary Ellen Foster http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ From nman64 at n-man.com Wed Oct 4 21:02:27 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick W. Barnes) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 16:02:27 -0500 Subject: [Fedora Women] fedora & ntfs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200610041602.30157.nman64@n-man.com> On Monday 02 October 2006 09:34, Mary Ellen Foster wrote: > > As far as I can tell, Fedora is never going to include ntfs support -- > the Fedora legal group seems to have re-examined the issue in 2005 and > decided again that it definitely wouldn't be included: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=65749#c24 > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLegalIssues (search for NTFS) > > Aside from linux-ntfs.org, another way to install NTFS drivers on > Fedora is to add the yum repository at http://rpm.livna.org/ and do > "yum install kmod-ntfs". Also a great way to get other > "free-as-in-beer" things that Fedora won't ever include, like > nVidia/ATI graphics drivers and DVD-playing software. :) > We're planning on evaluating this again. We'll be looking at whether or not the same patent protections that allowed the inclusion of Mono might also be able to allow us to include NTFS support. This will be entirely up to RH Legal and will be mostly behind closed doors, but at least it will be looked into again. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/nman64 Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: