<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div>Hi Rob,</div><div><br></div><div>Just wonder whether your guys have abandoned IPA 2.1.3 users on Redhat 6.2 or not. :(</div><div><br></div><div>The IPA replication/restoration procedure/document request has been submitted for more than a week, but I can not see any meaningful work has done for customers although IPA replication and restoration is so vital to users' production IPA reliability! </div><div><br></div><div>Even when after I've done a lot of investigation work and asking for helps/suggestions, there is still no much attentions paid from you guys. Am I, or any others users here, are just non-paid Q/A IPA team stuff could be ignored for no reasons :)</div><div><br></div><div> I've mentioned this again and again, and urging IPA team to setup a typical user setup, because only this way you can see what the
problems IPA administrators/users are facing and scared of. But unfortunately, we don't have a feeling that you have done so. </div><div> </div><div> Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>--Gelen</div><div><br></div> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Gelen James <hahaha_30k@yahoo.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Rob Crittenden <rcritten@redhat.com>; Dmitri Pal <dpal@redhat.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "Freeipa-users@redhat.com" <Freeipa-users@redhat.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, May 20, 2012 12:08 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Freeipa-users] Please help: How to restore IPA Master/Replicas from daily IPA Replica setup???<br> </font> </div> <br>
<div id="yiv1661037234"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "><div><span>Hi Mmitri, Rob and all.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span> Thanks for your instructions. I've performed your steps on case#1: replacing failed IPA master. The results, and my confusion and questions, are all detailed below. In general, please setup your own real test environment, and write down the detailed steps one by one clearly.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span> </span>It took me more than one week and still no clues. Frankly, your steps in the formal email are kind of over-simplified for normal IPA users, and not covering how the CA LDAP backend will be handled.</div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>The problem is the CA backend. All the replicas still trying to sync to old failed IPA master, even after
reboot.
</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Could be that the 'ipa-replica-manage' only manages the user data replication? and 'ipa-csreplica-manage' only handles CA-end replication? </span>In other words, when build, or tear down, IPA replication between two servers, do we need to deal with both replication types with 'ipa-replica-mange' AND 'ipa-csreplica-manage'? If so, then why who should run first?</div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>The error messages in /var/log/dirsrv/slapd-PKI-IPA/errors are attached, same from B,C,D replicas. </span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div>[19/May/2012:19:40:48 -0700] - 389-Directory/1.2.9.16 B2012.023.214 starting up</div><div>[19/May/2012:19:40:48 -0700] - slapd started. Listening on All Interfaces port 7389 for LDAP requests</div><div>[19/May/2012:19:40:48 -0700] - Listening on All Interfaces port 7390 for LDAPS requests</div><div>[19/May/2012:19:40:50 -0700]
slapi_ldap_bind - Error: could not send startTLS request: error -1 (Can't contact LDAP server)</div><div>[19/May/2012:19:40:50 -0700] NSMMReplicationPlugin - agmt="cn=cloneAgreement1-B.example.com-pki-ca" (<A>:7389): Replication bind with SIMPLE auth failed: LDAP error -1 (Can't contact LDAP server) ((null))</div><div>[19/May/2012:19:40:57 -0700] slapi_ldap_bind - Error: could not send startTLS request: error -1 (Can't contact LDAP server)</div><div>[19/May/2012:19:41:03 -0700] slapi_ldap_bind - Error: could not send startTLS request: error -1 (Can't contact LDAP server)</div><div>[19/May/2012:19:41:15 -0700] slapi_ldap_bind - Error: could not send startTLS request: error -1 (Can't contact LDAP server)</div><div>[19/May/2012:19:41:39 -0700] slapi_ldap_bind - Error: could not send startTLS request: error -1 (Can't contact LDAP server)</div><div>[19/May/2012:19:42:27 -0700] slapi_ldap_bind - Error: could not send startTLS request: error -1 (Can't
contact LDAP server)</div><div>[19/May/2012:19:44:03 -0700] slapi_ldap_bind - Error: could not send startTLS request: error -1 (Can't contact LDAP server)</div><div>[19/May/2012:19:47:15 -0700] slapi_ldap_bind - Error: could not send startTLS request: error -1 (Can't contact LDAP server)</div><div><span>[root@<B> ~]# </span></div><div><br></div><div>After seeing the above messages, I tried to run similar commands for CA replication, it shows that replication agreement (which replication agreement? User data, or CA data ?? ) exists already.</div><div><br></div><div>on B,</div><div> </div><div>ipa-csreplica-manage connect C</div><div>ipa-csreplica-manage connect D</div><div>ipa-csreplica-manage del A --force</div><div>ipactl restart </div><div><br></div><div>on C, </div><div><div>ipa-csreplica-manage del A --force</div><div>ipactl restart </div><div><br></div><div>on D,</div><div><div>ipa-csreplica-manage del A
--force</div><div>ipactl restart </div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>[root@B ~]# ipa-csreplica-manage --password=xxxxxxx connect <a target="_blank" href="http://C.example.com">C.example.com</a></div><div>This replication agreement already exists.</div><div>[root@B ~]# </div></div><div><br></div><div><div>[root@B ~]# ipa-csreplica-manage --password=xxxxxxx connect <a target="_blank" href="http://D.example.com">D.example.com</a></div><div>This replication agreement already exists.</div><div>[root@B ~]# </div><div><br></div><div><div>[root@B ~]# ipa-csreplica-manage --password=xxxxxxx del C.example.com --force</div><div><div>Unable to connect to replica <a target="_blank" href="http://A.example.com">A.example.com</a>, forcing removal</div><div>Failed to get data from 'A.example.com': Can't contact LDAP server</div><div>Forcing removal on '<a target="_blank"
href="http://B.example.com">B.example.com</a>'</div></div><div>[root@B ~]# </div><div><br></div><div>....</div><div><br></div><div>After restarting IPA services on B, C, D, and now the error messages finally got away from CA errors log
file. </div><div><br></div><div>But we still can not find the CA replication setups. Please see the difference of output from 'ipa-replica-manage' and 'ipa-csreplica-manage':</div><div><br></div><div>[root@B ~] ipa-replica-manage list</div><div>B.example.com</div><div>C.example.com</div><div>D.example.com</div><div><br></div><div><div>[root@B ~] ipa-csreplica-manage list</div><div>B.example.com</div><div>C.example.com</div><div>D.example.com</div><div><br></div><div><div>[root@B ~] ipa-replica-manage list B.example.com</div><div>C.example.com</div><div>D.example.com</div><div><br></div><div><div>[root@B ~] ipa-csreplica-manage list B.example.com</div><div>## Nothing at all!</div><div><br></div><div>Please have a check and give correct command and sequences for us IPA users. It is such a pain to spend so much time and still can not get restoration work as expected. Even worse is, Have no idea how the 'ipa-replica-manage' and
'ipa-csreplica-manage' work together behind the scene.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks a lot.</div><div><br></div><div>--Gelen</div></div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times, serif; "> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Rob Crittenden <rcritten@redhat.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Robinson Tiemuqinke <hahaha_30k@yahoo.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> "Freeipa-users@redhat.com" <Freeipa-users@redhat.com>; Rich Megginson <rmeggins@redhat.com>; Dmitri Pal <dpal@redhat.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:57 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Freeipa-users] Please
help: How to restore IPA Master/Replicas from daily IPA Replica setup???<br> </font> </div> <br>
Robinson Tiemuqinke wrote:<br>> Hi Dmitri, Rich and all,<br>><br>> I am a newbie to Redhat IPA, It looks like pretty cool compared with<br>> other solutions I've tried before. Thanks a lot for this great product! :)<br>><br>> But there are still some things I needs your help. My main question is:<br>> How to restore the IPA setup with a daily machine-level IPA Replica backup?<br>><br>> Please let me explain my IPA setup background and backup/restore goals<br>> trying to reach:<br>><br>> I'm running IPA 2.1.3 on Redhat Enterprise 6.2. The IPA master is setup<br>> with Dogtag CA system. It is installed first. Then two IPA replicas are<br>> installed -- with '--setup-ca' options -- for load balancing and<br>> failover purposes.<br>><br>> To describe my problems/objectives, I'll name the IPA Master as machine<br>> A, IPA replicas as B and C. and now I've one more extra IPA replica 'D'<br>> (virtual
machine) setup ONLY for backup purposes.<br>> The setup looks like the following, A is the configuration Hub. B,C,D<br>> are siblings.<br>><br>> A<br>> / | \<br>> B C D<br>><br>> The following are the steps I backup IPA setups and LDAP backends daily<br>> -- it is a whole machine-level backup (through virtual machine D).<br>><br>> 1, First, IPA replica D is backed up daily. The backup happens like this:<br>><br>> 1.1 on IP replica D, run 'service IPA stop'. Then run 'shutdown -h <D>'.<br>> On the Hypervisor which holds virtual machine D, do a daily backup of<br>> the whole virtual disk that D is on.<br>> 1.2 turn on the IP replica D again.<br>> 1.3 after virtual machine D is up, on D optionally run a<br>> 'ipa-replica-manage --force-sync --from <A>' to sync the IPA databases<br>> forcibly.<br>><br>> Now comes to restore part, which is pretty confusing to me. I've tried<br>>
several times, and every times it comes this or that kinds of issues and<br>> so I am wondering that correct steps/ineraction of IPA Master/replicas<br>> are the king :(<br>><br>> 2, case #1, A is broken, like disc failure, and then re-imaged after<br>> several days.<br>><br>> 2.1 How to rebuild the IPA Master/Hub A after A is re-imaged, with the<br>> daily backup from IPA replica D?<br><br>The first thing you'll need to do is to connect your other replias <br>together, either by picking a new hub or adding links to each one. Then <br>you'll need to delete the replication agreement to A. You should be left <br>with a set of servers that continues to replicate.<br><br>So, for arguments sake, we promote B to be the new hub:<br><br>On B:<br><br># ipa-replica-manage connect C<br># ipa-replica-manage connect D<br># ipa-replica-manage del --force A<br># ipactl restart<br><br>On C:<br><br># ipa-replica-manage del --force A<br># ipactl
restart<br><br>On D:<br><br># ipa-replica-manage del --force A<br># ipactl restart<br><br>It is unclear what you mean by re-imaged. Are you restoring from backup <br>or installing it fresh? I'll assume it is a new install. You'll need to <br>prepare a replica file for A and install it as a replica. Then if you <br>want to keep A as the primary you'll need to change the replication <br>agreements back to it is the hub (using ipa-replica-manage connect and <br>disconnect).<br><br>When you install the new A server it should get all the changes needed, <br>you should be done.<br><br>You'll want to check the documentation on promoting a master to verify <br>that only one server is the CRL generator (at this point there may be none).<br><br>> 2.2 do I have to check some files on A into subversion immediately after<br>> A was initially installed?<br><br>The only thing you really need to save is the cacert.p12 file. This is <br>your root CA.<br><br>>
2.3 Please describe the steps. I'll follow exactly and report the results.<br>><br>> 3, case #2, A is working, but either B, or C is broken.<br>><br>> 3.1 It looks that I don't need the daily backup of D to kick in, is that<br>> right?<br><br>No, D is unrelated.<br><br>> 3.2 What are the correct steps on A; and B after it is re-imaged?<br><br>On A:<br># ipa-replica-manage del B<br># ipactl restart<br># ipa-replica-prepare B<br><br>On B<br># ipa-replica-install B<br><br>You'll probably need/want to clean RUV, <br>http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Howto:CLEANRUV<br><br>> 3.3 Please describe the steps. I'll follow exactly and report the results.<br>><br>> 4, case #3, If some un-expected IPA changes happens on A -- like all<br>> users are deleted by human mistakes --, and even worse, all the changes<br>> are propagated to B and C in minutes.<br>><br>> 4.1 How can I recover the IPA setup from daily backup from
D?<br><br>We have not yet documented how to recover from tombstones or an offline <br>replica.<br><br>> 4.2 which IPA master/replicas I should recover first? IPA master A, or<br>> IPA replicas B/C? and then how to recover others left one by one?<br><br>If the entries are re-added on any of the replicas it will be propogated <br>out.<br><br>> 4.3 Do I have to disconnect replication agreement of B,C,D from A first?<br><br>Depends on how 4.1 gets answered which we are still investigating.<br><br>> 4.4 Please describe the steps. I'll follow exactly and report the results.<br>><br>> I've heard something about tombstone records too, Not sure whether the<br>> problem still exists in 2.1.3, or 2.2.0(on 6.3Beta)? If so, How can I<br>> avoid it with correct recovery steps/interactions.<br><br>It is RUV that is the problem. This 389-ds wiki page describes how to <br>clean up: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Howto:CLEANRUV">http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Howto:CLEANRUV</a><br><br>The 389-ds team is working to make this less manual.<br><br>rob<br><br><br> </div> </div> </div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>Freeipa-users mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Freeipa-users@redhat.com" href="mailto:Freeipa-users@redhat.com">Freeipa-users@redhat.com</a><br><a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/freeipa-users" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/freeipa-users</a><br><br> </div> </div> </div></body></html>