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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/16/2013 05:33 PM, Tovey, Mark
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">    You make
            this difficult!</span><span
            style="font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span
            style="color:#1F497D">  But after explaining what we are
            trying to accomplish here to our AD Architect, he offered
            some flexibility with the subcontainer option.  My users may
            have to live with two accounts in AD (one for everyday
            functions like email, the other for extra access like *nix),
            but that will allow our User Account Management team to
            enable, disable, and reset accounts from within one tool. 
            Actual server access will still be managed by our Unix team
            through IPA.</span></p>
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    <br>
    You can't just disable sync of AD user creation?  And just add the
    sync attributes to the IPA entries you want to sync?<br>
    <br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">    Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">     -Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                lang="EN-GB">________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray"
                lang="EN-GB">Mark Tovey - UNIX Engineer | Service
                Strategy & Design<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"
              lang="EN-GB"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.go2uti.com/">UTi</a>
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              lang="EN-GB">| 400 SW Sixth Ave, Suite 1100 | Portland |
              Oregon | 97204 | USA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray"
              lang="EN-GB"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:MTovey@go2uti.com">MTovey@go2uti.com</a> |
              O / C +1 503 953-1389</span><span style="color:#1F497D"
              lang="EN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                Rich Megginson [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:rmeggins@redhat.com">mailto:rmeggins@redhat.com</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:06 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Tovey, Mark<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Freeipa-users@redhat.com">Freeipa-users@redhat.com</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Freeipa-users] Limit password
                synchronization from Active Directory<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">On 07/16/2013 05:00 PM, Tovey, Mark
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">    We can
              live with that.  We want to be able to disable an account
              in AD and have that flow out to our *nix servers.  If we
              make the procedure to delete the password in AD, that
              should effectively disable the account in IPA as well.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        </blockquote>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
            Roman","serif""><br>
            I don't think PassSync will sync password deletion events.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">    Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">    -Mark</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                lang="EN-GB">________________________________________________________________</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray"
                lang="EN-GB">Mark Tovey - UNIX Engineer | Service
                Strategy & Design</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
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              lang="EN-GB">| 400 SW Sixth Ave, Suite 1100 | Portland |
              Oregon | 97204 | USA</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              lang="EN-GB"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:MTovey@go2uti.com">MTovey@go2uti.com</a> |
              O / C +1 503 953-1389</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                Rich Megginson [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:rmeggins@redhat.com">mailto:rmeggins@redhat.com</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:53 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Tovey, Mark<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:Freeipa-users@redhat.com">Freeipa-users@redhat.com</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Freeipa-users] Limit password
                synchronization from Active Directory</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 07/16/2013 04:50 PM, Tovey, Mark
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">    At the
              end of the day, all we really need is password</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        </blockquote>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman ,
            serif","serif""><br>
            You can do this with just PassSync on AD and without the
            rest of winsync.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
          </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">and preferably
            account disabling synchronized.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman ,
            serif","serif""><br>
            You have to use winsync for that.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
          </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The rest is not
            absolutely necessary.  I saw that part of the documentation,
            but did not fully understand it (in a hurry!).  Now that I
            see it in a different light, it becomes much clearer.  I
            will look into this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">    Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">    -Mark</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray"
                lang="EN-GB">________________________________________________________________</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray"
                lang="EN-GB">Mark Tovey - UNIX Engineer | Service
                Strategy & Design</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"
              lang="EN-GB"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.go2uti.com/">UTi</a>
            </span><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray"
              lang="EN-GB">| 400 SW Sixth Ave, Suite 1100 | Portland |
              Oregon | 97204 | USA</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray"
              lang="EN-GB"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:MTovey@go2uti.com">MTovey@go2uti.com</a> |
              O / C +1 503 953-1389</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                Rich Megginson [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:rmeggins@redhat.com">mailto:rmeggins@redhat.com</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:17 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Tovey, Mark<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:Freeipa-users@redhat.com">Freeipa-users@redhat.com</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Freeipa-users] Limit password
                synchronization from Active Directory</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">On 07/16/2013 04:06 PM, Tovey, Mark
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
        </div>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">    Ouch!  
              The AD admins have already expressed an unwillingness to
              move some users into a separate container.  And I don’t
              want to have several thousand unnecessary entries in my
              IPA system.  It looks like password synchronization is not
              going to be an option.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        </blockquote>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
            With 389 it is possible to disable sync of AD user creation
            to DS.<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Directory_Server/9.0/html/Administration_Guide/Using_Windows_Sync-Synchronizing_Users.html">https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Directory_Server/9.0/html/Administration_Guide/Using_Windows_Sync-Synchronizing_Users.html</a><br>
            <br>
            12.4.4.2. Configuring User Sync in the Command Line<br>
            <br>
            To disable user sync, set nsds7NewWinUserSyncEnabled: off<br>
            <br>
            Then, you will add the ntUser objectclass to each IPA user
            you want to sync, and at the same time add the attribute
            ntUserDomainID: username (corresponds to the AD user
            samAccountName attribute).  This will "link" the IPA user
            entry to the corresponding AD user entry.<br>
            <br>
            You mention password sync and user sync - I'm not sure if
            you mean them separately, or if you are implying that they
            have to be used together - they do not.  You should be able
            to install PassSync on your domain controllers _without
            configuring a winsync agreement in IPA_.  PassSync should
            then just ignore password changes for users that it cannot
            find in IPA.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
          </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">    Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">    -Mark</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                lang="EN-GB">Mark Tovey - UNIX Engineer | Service
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                Rich Megginson [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:rmeggins@redhat.com">mailto:rmeggins@redhat.com</a>]
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                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:00 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Tovey, Mark<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:Freeipa-users@redhat.com">Freeipa-users@redhat.com</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Freeipa-users] Limit password
                synchronization from Active Directory</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 07/16/2013 01:48 PM, Tovey, Mark
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          <p class="MsoNormal">    Is there a way to limit what user
            accounts are synchronized from Active Directory?  There are
            around 15,000 entries in our production AD system, but
            probably only about 300 of those need to have an account in
            the IPA system.  Can we set an attribute in the user
            information in AD that would flag that this is a candidate
            for replication, and lack of that attribute would cause an
            account to be skipped?<o:p></o:p></p>
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            No.  The only thing you can do is create a special container
            (cn=IPA users or ou=IPA users or something like that), move
            the users you want to sync into that container, and sync
            only that container.<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">    Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">    -Mark<o:p></o:p></p>
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              lang="EN-GB">Mark Tovey - UNIX Engineer | Service Strategy
              & Design</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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            / C +1 503 953-1389 | Skype: mark.tovey2</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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        <pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre>Freeipa-users mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre>
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