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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/17/2015 04:34 PM, Steven Jones
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        <p>"I have been informed that all computer users on our campus
          must now authenticate off of the University’s Active Directory
          server, including all Linux machines."</p>
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        <p>dictated by a clueless Windows ***** no doubt, ***sigh*** 
          Here we are keeping both separate as AD is so bad security
          wise, but want some low risk trusts for certain groups of
          machines (common desktops).
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        <p>If the expectation is its directly off the AD then you dont
          need IPA at all. However without an expensive commercial addon
          per Linux server/desktop you wont be able to do much
          management and control.   this has security implications, if
          you had say a finance or HR server without these commercial
          tools you may find any AD user could get on them, not what you
          would want.  </p>
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        <p>So you have 2 options in keeping IPA, </p>
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        <p>a) trusts and you should be able keep your users.  <br>
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        <p>b) winsync and passync and all the AD users are synced over
          to IPA.  Existing users stay as is, the ones in AD but not in
          IPA get pulled over to IPA.<br>
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        <p>***maybe***</p>
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        <p>c) You might be able to do both winsync and trusts at the
          same time then that is simpler provisioning. ie a user gets
          created in AD and automatically gets created in IPA ready for
          you to put in the user group you want.<br>
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    I am not sure this is the best solution really.<br>
    Trust and sync do not help each other. The fact that you have trust
    does not help you to provision users the way you describe.<br>
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        <p>I'd like to do c) which I am looking at at present, if I ever
          get IPA on RHEL6.6 upgraded to RHEL7.1!</p>
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                  <p>regards</p>
                  <p>Steven J<br>
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          <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt"
              color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:freeipa-users-bounces@redhat.com">freeipa-users-bounces@redhat.com</a>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:freeipa-users-bounces@redhat.com"><freeipa-users-bounces@redhat.com></a> on behalf of
              David Fitzgerald <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:David.Fitzgerald@millersville.edu"><David.Fitzgerald@millersville.edu></a><br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 18 February 2015 10:05 a.m.<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:freeipa-users@redhat.com">freeipa-users@redhat.com</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> [Freeipa-users] question about Active
              Directory authentication</font>
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                Hello,</p>
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                I am currently running an IPA 3.3 server on Centos 7.  I
                have 70 IPA client machines running Scientific Linux 6.6
                and 150 users.  User directories are auto-mounted from a
                Centos 7 file server.
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                I have been informed that all computer users on our
                campus must now authenticate off of the University’s
                Active Directory server, including all Linux machines. 
                I have been looking through the IPA documentation and am
                getting myself confused and not completely understanding
                what needs to be done, thus I have some questions.  </p>
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                <span style="">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New
                    Roman"">       </span></span>The docs talk
                about setting up a trust between the IPA server and the
                AD server.  Will I need to change all of the IPA clients
                as well as the IPA server, or do I only need change the
                server and not have to touch the clients?</p>
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                <span style="">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New
                    Roman"">       </span></span>Do I even need to
                set up a full trust relationship just to authenticate my
                users with AD?</p>
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                <span style="">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New
                    Roman"">       </span></span>Since I already
                have 150 users, will I have to delete their IPA accounts
                before setting up the trust?  W</p>
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                Sorry if my questions are a bit basic, but I need some
                guidance to get me started.</p>
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                Thanks!</p>
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                Dave</p>
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                ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</p>
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                David Fitzgerald</p>
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                Department of Earth Sciences</p>
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                Millersville University</p>
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                Millersville, PA 17551</p>
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                Phone:  717-871-2394</p>
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                E-Mail:  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:david.fitzgerald@millersville.edu">david.fitzgerald@millersville.edu</a></p>
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Thank you,
Dmitri Pal

Sr. Engineering Manager IdM portfolio
Red Hat, Inc.</pre>
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