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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/02/15 18:51, Shaun Martin wrote:<br>
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      Hi Martin,
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      <div>The zone name is the following for both servers.</div>
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                <label name="idnsname" class="field-label">Zone name:</label></td>
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                <div name="idnsname" class="field widget text-widget"><label
                    name="idnsname" style="display: inline;">1.10.in-addr.arpa.</label></div>
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        <div>I am using zone forwarders.</div>
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        <div>With forward first enabled though it should try and return
          an answer from the local DNS, it clearly does not though. The
          only time I receive the local record is when forwarding is
          disabled.</div>
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        <div>Thanks,</div>
        <div>Shaun</div>
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          <div>On Feb 25, 2015, at 12:42 PM, Martin Basti <<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mbasti@redhat.com">mbasti@redhat.com</a>>
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              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/02/15 17:59, Shaun
                Martin wrote:<br>
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                Hi,
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                <div>I am having an issue with the forward first not
                  appear to be working. I have two separate IPA servers
                  that server separate realms. I have for the reverse
                  zone configured forwarders to point to the other
                  realms IPA server. All versions are identical on the
                  IPA servers. I have included details on version and
                  tests that show this is not working.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div>$ yum list installed |grep bind-dyndb-ldap</div>
                  <div>bind-dyndb-ldap.x86_64                 3.5-4.el7
                                          @base </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>$ yum list installed |grep ipa</div>
                  <div>ipa-admintools.x86_64                
                     3.3.3-28.0.1.el7.centos.3       @updates </div>
                  <div>ipa-client.x86_64                    
                     3.3.3-28.0.1.el7.centos.3       @updates </div>
                  <div>ipa-python.x86_64                    
                     3.3.3-28.0.1.el7.centos.3       @updates </div>
                  <div>ipa-server.x86_64                    
                     3.3.3-28.0.1.el7.centos.3       @updates </div>
                  <div>libipa_hbac.x86_64                    
                    1.11.2-68.el7_0.6               @updates </div>
                  <div>libipa_hbac-python.x86_64            
                     1.11.2-68.el7_0.6               @updates </div>
                  <div>python-iniparse.noarch                 0.4-9.el7
                                          @anaconda</div>
                  <div>sssd-ipa.x86_64           </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div><b>BELOW IS WITH FORWARDING DISABLED</b>. It
                      cannot find 10.1.0.9 but can find 10.1.20.9. This
                      is expected as this server only has the 10.1.20.9
                      record.</div>
                    <div>$ nslookup </div>
                    <div>> server 10.1.20.9</div>
                    <div>Default server: 10.1.20.9</div>
                    <div>Address: 10.1.20.9#53</div>
                    <div>> 10.1.20.9</div>
                    <div>Server:<span class="Apple-tab-span"
                        style="white-space:pre"> </span>10.1.20.9</div>
                    <div>Address:<span class="Apple-tab-span"
                        style="white-space:pre"> </span>10.1.20.9#53</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>9.20.1.10.in-addr.arpa<span
                        class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">
                      </span>
                      name = prd-ops-ipa01.uzb.local.</div>
                    <div>> 10.1.0.9</div>
                    <div>Server:<span class="Apple-tab-span"
                        style="white-space:pre"> </span>10.1.20.9</div>
                    <div>Address:<span class="Apple-tab-span"
                        style="white-space:pre"> </span>10.1.20.9#53</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>** server can't find 9.0.1.10.in-addr.arpa.:
                      NXDOMAIN</div>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div><b>BELOW IS WITH FORWARDING ENABLED</b>. It
                      cannot find 10.1.20.9 but can find 10.1.0.9. This
                      is expected as the forwarding server only has the
                      10.1.0.9 record.</div>
                    <div>> 10.1.20.9</div>
                    <div>Server:<span class="Apple-tab-span"
                        style="white-space:pre"> </span>10.1.20.9</div>
                    <div>Address:<span class="Apple-tab-span"
                        style="white-space:pre"> </span>10.1.20.9#53</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>** server can't find 9.20.1.10.in-addr.arpa.:
                      NXDOMAIN</div>
                    <div>> 10.1.0.9</div>
                    <div>Server:<span class="Apple-tab-span"
                        style="white-space:pre"> </span>10.1.20.9</div>
                    <div>Address:<span class="Apple-tab-span"
                        style="white-space:pre"> </span>10.1.20.9#53</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Non-authoritative answer:</div>
                    <div>9.0.1.10.in-addr.arpa<span
                        class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">
                      </span>
                      name = ops-ipa01.bbf.local.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Authoritative answers can be found from:</div>
                    <div>1.10.in-addr.arpa<span class="Apple-tab-span"
                        style="white-space:pre"> </span>
                      nameserver = ops-ipa01.bbf.local.</div>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div><b>BELOW IS WITH FORWARD FIRST ENABLED</b>. It
                      cannot find 10.1.20.9 but can find 10.1.0.9. This
                      is un-expected as the local zone has the 10.1.20.9
                      and the forward server has the 10.1.0.9 so we
                      should be getting both.</div>
                    <div>> 10.1.20.9</div>
                    <div>Server:<span class="Apple-tab-span"
                        style="white-space:pre"> </span>10.1.20.9</div>
                    <div>Address:<span class="Apple-tab-span"
                        style="white-space:pre"> </span>10.1.20.9#53</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>** server can't find 9.20.1.10.in-addr.arpa.:
                      NXDOMAIN</div>
                    <div>> 10.1.0.9</div>
                    <div>Server:<span class="Apple-tab-span"
                        style="white-space:pre"> </span>10.1.20.9</div>
                    <div>Address:<span class="Apple-tab-span"
                        style="white-space:pre"> </span>10.1.20.9#53</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Non-authoritative answer:</div>
                    <div>9.0.1.10.in-addr.arpa<span
                        class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">
                      </span>
                      name = ops-ipa01.bbf.local.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Authoritative answers can be found from:</div>
                    <div>1.10.in-addr.arpa<span class="Apple-tab-span"
                        style="white-space:pre"> </span>
                      nameserver = ops-ipa01.bbf.local.</div>
                    <div>ops-ipa01.bbf.local<span class="Apple-tab-span"
                        style="white-space:pre"> </span>
                      internet address = 10.1.0.9</div>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Any help is greatly appreciated.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Thanks,</div>
                  <div>Shaun</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><span><Mail Attachment.png></span><span
                      style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
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                      66);"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
                      Shaun Martin<br>
                    </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,
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                      color: rgb(121, 121, 121);">IT\OPS Manager<br>
                      Black Duck Software<br>
                      O: +1.781.425.4336<br>
                    </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,
                      sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant:
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                    </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,
                      sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant:
                      normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
                      normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto;
                      text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
                      text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
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                      color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.blackducksoftware.com/"
                        style="color: purple;"><span style="color:
                          blue;">Black Duck Software</span></a></span><span
                      style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                      font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
                      font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
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                      style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
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                      10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="https://www.openhub.net/" style="color:
                        purple;"><span style="color: blue;">OpenHUB</span></a></span><span
                      style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                      font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
                      font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
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                      10pt; color: rgb(121, 121, 121);"> | </span><span
                      style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                      font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
                      font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
                      line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
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                      0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size:
                      10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://osdelivers.blackducksoftware.com/"
                        style="color: purple;"><span style="color:
                          blue;">OSDelivers</span></a></span><span
                      style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                      font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
                      font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
                      line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
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                      style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
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                      10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="https://www.blackducksoftware.com/oss-logistics"
                        style="color: purple;"><span style="color:
                          blue;">OSS Logistics</span></a></span><span
                      style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                      font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
                      font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
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                    </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,
                      sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant:
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                      normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto;
                      text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
                      text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
                      auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                      -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 8pt;"><br>
                    </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://twitter.com/black_duck_sw"
                      style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                      font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant:
                      normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
                      normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto;
                      text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
                      text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
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                      -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; color: purple;"><span
                        style="font-size: 9pt; color: blue;
                        text-decoration: none;"><span><span><Mail
                            Attachment.png></span></span><span
                          style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                          font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
                          font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
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                          text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
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                          widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                          -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size:
                          9pt;">   </span></span></a><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/black-duck-software"
                      style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                      font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant:
                      normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
                      normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto;
                      text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
                      text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
                      auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                      -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; color: purple;"><span
                        style="font-size: 9pt; color: blue;
                        text-decoration: none;"><span><span><Mail
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                          style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
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                          font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
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                          -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size:
                          9pt;">   </span></span></a><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="https://www.facebook.com/BlackDuckSoftware"
                      style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                      font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant:
                      normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
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                      text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
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                      -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; color: purple;"><span
                        style="font-size: 9pt; color: blue;
                        text-decoration: none;"><span><span><Mail
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                          style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                          font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
                          font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
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                          widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                          -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size:
                          9pt;">   </span></span></a><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="https://plus.google.com/+Blackducksoftware/"
                      style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                      font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant:
                      normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
                      normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto;
                      text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
                      text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
                      auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                      -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; color: purple;"><span
                        style="font-size: 9pt; color: blue;
                        text-decoration: none;"><span><span><Mail
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                          style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                          font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
                          font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
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                          text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
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                          widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                          -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size:
                          9pt;">   </span></span></a><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://www.slideshare.net/blackducksoftware"
                      style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
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                      normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
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                      text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
                      text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
                      auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                      -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; color: purple;"><span
                        style="font-size: 9pt; color: blue;
                        text-decoration: none;"><span><span><Mail
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                          style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                          font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
                          font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
                          line-height: normal; orphans: auto;
                          text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
                          text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
                          widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                          -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size:
                          9pt;">   </span></span></a><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="https://www.youtube.com/user/BlackDuckSoftware"
                      style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                      font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant:
                      normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
                      normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto;
                      text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
                      text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
                      auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                      -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; color: purple;"><span
                        style="font-size: 9pt; color: blue;
                        text-decoration: none;"><span><span><Mail
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                          style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
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                          0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
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                          8pt;"><br>
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                          sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-variant:
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                            style="font-size: 10pt;">JP Morgan Chase
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              Hello,<br>
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              we need more info:<br>
              do you use global forwarders, or zone forwarders?<br>
              how your reverse zones are configured (name, delegation)?<br>
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              Default forwarding policy is first, IMO both of your
              examples with forwarding enabled are forwarding first
              policy.<br>
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              Martin<br>
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    You issue is, the IPA < 4.1,  separate zones in following way:<br>
    * zone with forwarders specified == forward zone, records inside are
    ignored<br>
    * zone without forwarders, or zone with --forward-policy=none ==
    master zone, no forwarding<br>
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    So if you specify forwarders, your zone works as BIND's forward zone
    without records.<br>
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    And  I'm not sure if forwarding between 2 authoritative zones with
    the same name will work, because the zone is authoritative on IPA
    side, so IPA will return authoritative answer NXDOMAIN and will not
    try to forward query.<br>
    You may need NS delegation to subzone.<br>
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    I suggest to create separate zones, there should not be 2
    authoritative servers with the same zone.<br>
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    FYI: Forward zones IPA 4.1:
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeipa.org/page/V4/Forward_zones">http://www.freeipa.org/page/V4/Forward_zones</a><br>
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    HTH<br>
    Martin<br>
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