From alexc at disklessworkstations.com Thu Dec 4 15:23:47 2008 From: alexc at disklessworkstations.com (Alex Colcernian) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:23:47 -0500 Subject: LTSP LinkedIn.com Group - Invitation Message-ID: <001d01c95624$4d8da670$e8a8f350$@com> If you have an account on LinkedIn.com please consider joining the LTSP group! Link: http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/1412517 Thank You, Alex Colcernian DisklessWorkstations.Com 360 E Maple Road Suite C Troy, MI 48083 Ph: (888)-359-5877 Fx: (248)-577-0201 Em: alexc at disklessworkstations.com The official source of LTSP approved hardware! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robark at gmail.com Sun Dec 7 08:06:00 2008 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 00:06:00 -0800 Subject: No response from server, restarting Message-ID: On F9 I just did a yum update. Then deleted my old chroot and created a new one with ltsp-build-client. Then did a yum update inside the chroot and also installed Virtualbox inside the chroot. Now I can't log into my client. The client boots up fine, but when I type in a username and password, the K12Linux login screen says "Verifying password. Please wait" after about 20 seconds it says "No response from server, restarting.." then it seems to restart X. Anyone know what's happening or what else to try? (I have verified that the usernames and passwords are correct and no, I don't have cap locks on) I even tried #service network restart and restarted ltsp-dhcpd (boots fine but can't login) I even tried #yum remove NetworkManager and also removed Virtualbox in the chroot and disabling my firewall (although eth1 and ltspbr0 are trusted devices) but still no joy. BTW this is a real client not a VM -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada Fl_TeacherTool http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/ C++ GUI tutorial http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/ From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sun Dec 7 14:46:07 2008 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry R Cisna) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:46:07 -0600 Subject: No response from server, restarting Message-ID: <1228661167.1254.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Robert, What about the ssh key pairs? Would they need to be regenerated once the client root has been deleted? I would think that once you do the new install of the client root these are processed/generated?I'm guessing the message log shows nothing obvious? Also maybe try dropping to a bash prompt on the TC and try a login,and see what the error shows (if any). One other thing, ' tail -f /var/log/messages ' ,,, while doing the login and see if any errors spits out. Also shut off both IPv6 ,IPv4 firewalls to start at boot, then reboot your server with both these disabled. I have seen weird stuff in the past were the firewall may block a port (service iptables stop) until rebooted server. Don't know why that is.Try your TC after a server reboot this way. A few things to try anyway, I'm sure you've probably already tried. Take Care, Barry Cisna From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sun Dec 7 14:56:05 2008 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry R Cisna) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:56:05 -0600 Subject: FC9 -network install possible Message-ID: <1228661765.1254.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello List, Just curious as I have been reading up on the FC9 K12Linux documentation I do not see any mention of being able to do an network install of the DVD.iso? If so were would a person download the boot.iso to this? In other words if you have an older server without dvd capabilities? Also the network install is less babysitting:-) I'm sure I've missed reading this somewhere. Thanks, Barry Cisna From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sun Dec 7 15:07:52 2008 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry R Cisna) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:07:52 -0600 Subject: Help Needed: jetpipe testing Message-ID: <1228662472.1254.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Warren, Been reading up on the jetpipe piece. I'm sure you want to get this possible gotcha, resolved before moving forward with final release. Just curious what the jetpipe will do that is not built into cups and or hplip? Is this just to streamline the printer connection process maybe with less bulk? I guess I haven't kept up with the newer packages? Just wondered. Take Care, Barry Cisna From wtogami at redhat.com Sun Dec 7 15:15:22 2008 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:15:22 -0500 Subject: FC9 -network install possible In-Reply-To: <1228661765.1254.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1228661765.1254.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <493BE88A.7040101@redhat.com> Barry R Cisna wrote: > Hello List, > > Just curious as I have been reading up on the FC9 K12Linux documentation > I do not see any mention of being able to do an network install of the > DVD.iso? If so were would a person download the boot.iso to this? In > other words if you have an older server without dvd capabilities? > Also the network install is less babysitting:-) I'm sure I've missed > reading this somewhere. There is nothing special about K12Linux, it is just functionality on top of standard Fedora. Please refer to the Fedora documentation on installation. Warren From robark at gmail.com Sun Dec 7 18:04:26 2008 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 10:04:26 -0800 Subject: No response from server, restarting In-Reply-To: <1228661167.1254.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1228661167.1254.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Barry R Cisna wrote: > Hi Robert, > > What about the ssh key pairs? Would they need to be regenerated once the > client root has been deleted? I would think that once you do the new > install of the client root these are processed/generated?I'm guessing Thanks Barry, that was it! #ltsp-update-sshkeys solved the problem. :) -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada Fl_TeacherTool http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/ C++ GUI tutorial http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/ From robark at gmail.com Sun Dec 7 18:08:29 2008 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 10:08:29 -0800 Subject: local apps how-to In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > This is a brief description how to enable local app support in Fedora 9 K12Linux > Note: you may not have to do steps 1 and 2 depending on how new your chroot is. > > 1)Delete the old client OS > > First make sure to umount /proc in the chroot > chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 > umount /proc > exit > rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386/* > > 2)Install new client OS > ltsp-build-client > > 3)Install new software in chroot > chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 > mount /proc > yum install firefox > exit Recently discovered one needs to update ssh keys at this point #ltsp-update-sshkeys > > 4) launch app as a local app > /usr/bin/ltsp-localapps /usr/bin/firefox > > If network apps don't work then you may need to setup nat in your > firewall on your external nic > > iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE > > You can also set this up with the gui program system-config-firewall > > Note: I could not find flash-plugin with yum so I copied the file from > outside the chroot like this > > cp /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so > /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ > > then I installed libflashsupport > > yum install libflashsupport > > Unfortunately, I still could not get flash to work with sound. In > addition, launching firefox on a 1.4GHz Athlon with 256MB client with > a 100mbps connection takes over 30 seconds. > > -- > Robert Arkiletian > Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada > Fl_TeacherTool http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/ > C++ GUI tutorial http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/ > -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada Fl_TeacherTool http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/ C++ GUI tutorial http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/ From peter at scheie.homedns.org Sun Dec 7 19:40:51 2008 From: peter at scheie.homedns.org (Peter Scheie) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:40:51 -0600 Subject: Help Needed: jetpipe testing In-Reply-To: <1228662472.1254.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1228662472.1254.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <493C26C3.3070303@scheie.homedns.org> Jetpipe is a daemon that runs on the client to allow a printer to be attached to the client machine such that the printer appears on the network like a jetdirect printer. IOW, it's a print server daemon that runs on the client, sharing any printers attached to the client. William had reported an issue with jetpipe not working. However, I think that was a special case: the base OS had been upgraded a few times, instead of it being a clean install. Not to say upgrading can't be done, but one sometimes gets some odd side-effects such as this. In my own testing with jetpipe on a clean install, the only issue was pyserial was not installed by default. After adding that via yum, it worked like a champ. I tried it with multiple printers, parallel & USB and had no issues. Peter Barry R Cisna wrote: > Hi Warren, > > Been reading up on the jetpipe piece. I'm sure you want to get this > possible gotcha, resolved before moving forward with final release. Just > curious what the jetpipe will do that is not built into cups and or > hplip? Is this just to streamline the printer connection process maybe > with less bulk? I guess I haven't kept up with the newer packages? Just > wondered. > > Take Care, > Barry Cisna > > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list > From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sun Dec 7 20:51:41 2008 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry R Cisna) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:51:41 -0600 Subject: Help Needed: jetpipe testing In-Reply-To: <493C26C3.3070303@scheie.homedns.org> References: <1228662472.1254.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <493C26C3.3070303@scheie.homedns.org> Message-ID: <1228683101.19850.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Peter, Thanks for the feedback. That's what I was missing, the jetpipe daemon actually runs 'inside' of the client, versus cups , hplip running server side. Sounds like a neat package for clients with some extra ram. I can see this cutting down on a little legwork for the admin of the network a bit. BTW:Sidenote: I posted at k12osn just a while back in regards to the hplip package really coming around. It really sets up nicely now (if) you have either jetdirect or usb attached hp printer to clients as well. Brings all of your HP printers on your network, into ONE intuitive interface. Works very nicely out of the box with the extended features (card readers ,scanner, etc) on hp printers as well. Has saved me a lot of legwork by not having to go driving to a remote building to see a front panel error code:) Take Care, Barry Cisna On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 13:40 -0600, Peter Scheie wrote: > Jetpipe is a daemon that runs on the client to allow a printer to be attached to > the client machine such that the printer appears on the network like a jetdirect > printer. IOW, it's a print server daemon that runs on the client, sharing any > printers attached to the client. > > William had reported an issue with jetpipe not working. However, I think that > was a special case: the base OS had been upgraded a few times, instead of it > being a clean install. Not to say upgrading can't be done, but one sometimes > gets some odd side-effects such as this. In my own testing with jetpipe on a > clean install, the only issue was pyserial was not installed by default. After > adding that via yum, it worked like a champ. I tried it with multiple printers, > parallel & USB and had no issues. > > Peter > > > > Barry R Cisna wrote: > > Hi Warren, > > > > Been reading up on the jetpipe piece. I'm sure you want to get this > > possible gotcha, resolved before moving forward with final release. Just > > curious what the jetpipe will do that is not built into cups and or > > hplip? Is this just to streamline the printer connection process maybe > > with less bulk? I guess I haven't kept up with the newer packages? Just > > wondered. > > > > Take Care, > > Barry Cisna > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list From robark at gmail.com Mon Dec 8 06:42:47 2008 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 22:42:47 -0800 Subject: local apps how-to In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > > Unfortunately, I still could not get flash to work with sound. In > addition, launching firefox on a 1.4GHz Athlon with 256MB client with > a 100mbps connection takes over 30 seconds. > Good news! With the latest packages of ltsp, Firefox AND flash (video and sound) work out of the box with F9 as a local app. This is really good news. We can have an entire class watching a youtube with pretty much no load on the ltsp server. Providing clients have 512M and enough cpu power. :) -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada Fl_TeacherTool http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/ C++ GUI tutorial http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/ From odin at gnuskole.no Mon Dec 8 10:31:25 2008 From: odin at gnuskole.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Odin_N=F8sen?=) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 11:31:25 +0100 Subject: local apps how-to In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20081208103005.M54927@gnuskole.no> > and sound) work out of the box with F9 as a local app. This is really > good news. We can have an entire class watching a youtube with pretty Which box? :-) The ordinary Fedora9 with LTSP-server installed or the K12linux LiveCD? I just installed F9 with ltsp-server and there is no automatic installed Firefox w/flash (and sound). Odin From peter at scheie.homedns.org Mon Dec 8 14:21:09 2008 From: peter at scheie.homedns.org (Peter Scheie) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 08:21:09 -0600 Subject: local apps how-to In-Reply-To: <20081208103005.M54927@gnuskole.no> References: <20081208103005.M54927@gnuskole.no> Message-ID: <493D2D55.5040705@scheie.homedns.org> Odin N?sen wrote: >> and sound) work out of the box with F9 as a local app. This is really >> good news. We can have an entire class watching a youtube with pretty > > Which box? :-) The ordinary Fedora9 with LTSP-server installed or the K12linux LiveCD? > > I just installed F9 with ltsp-server and there is no automatic installed Firefox w/flash > (and sound). > Neither. Flash is not Free Software, meaning we can't (re)distribute it with the LiveUSB nor with Fedora 9. Installing Flash 10 is pretty easy now, but since we can't include it, the question becomes should we just have some documentation on the website about how to install it (it's only about five steps), or should we create some icons/installers that go on root's desktop that install it, similar to what was in K12LTSP? If the latter, we'd have to maintain a repo to store them, or get them into RPM Fusion or some other repo; I don't think we could use the Fedora repos because of the license issues on Flash, even though we'd just be providing an installer. So, that all gets rather messy, which leads one back to just providing a short how-to for installing Flash. Same is true for some of the other add-ons that came with K12LTSP. Peter From rmcdaniel at indata.us Mon Dec 8 15:19:14 2008 From: rmcdaniel at indata.us (rmcdaniel at indata.us) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 08:19:14 -0700 Subject: local apps how-to Message-ID: <20081208081914.d7061e97b78b017ac15395d64f2ce134.f86458a44d.wbe@email.secureserver.net> I think having a list of post install items would be all that would be needed. Ron -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: local apps how-to From: Peter Scheie Date: Mon, December 08, 2008 8:21 am To: Development discussion of K12Linux Odin N?sen wrote: >> and sound) work out of the box with F9 as a local app. This is really >> good news. We can have an entire class watching a youtube with pretty > > Which box? :-) The ordinary Fedora9 with LTSP-server installed or the K12linux LiveCD? > > I just installed F9 with ltsp-server and there is no automatic installed Firefox w/flash > (and sound). > Neither. Flash is not Free Software, meaning we can't (re)distribute it with the LiveUSB nor with Fedora 9. Installing Flash 10 is pretty easy now, but since we can't include it, the question becomes should we just have some documentation on the website about how to install it (it's only about five steps), or should we create some icons/installers that go on root's desktop that install it, similar to what was in K12LTSP? If the latter, we'd have to maintain a repo to store them, or get them into RPM Fusion or some other repo; I don't think we could use the Fedora repos because of the license issues on Flash, even though we'd just be providing an installer. So, that all gets rather messy, which leads one back to just providing a short how-to for installing Flash. Same is true for some of the other add-ons that came with K12LTSP. Peter _______________________________________________ K12Linux-devel-list mailing list K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list From stretchem at gmail.com Mon Dec 8 16:48:49 2008 From: stretchem at gmail.com (M Rathburn) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 11:48:49 -0500 Subject: F9 - LTSP5 and CUPS Printer Configuration Message-ID: <493d4ff0.e203be0a.2ef2.ffffb875@mx.google.com> I've installed Fedora 9 basic install, followed by a 'yum update' of the system, followed by a 'yum install ltsp-server'. Pretty straightforward installation following instructions in the Wiki. LTSP working spectacularly via PXE TC's. The server environment has two NIC's, eth0 faces the terminals, eth1 faces the 'internet'. ltspbr0 is bridged to eth0, of course. All is working well as far as TC connections and internet browsing from those connections. I give that detail information because I'm having a CUPS printer configuration issue, and I'm thinking it may be a networking problem (?). >From the console Gnome login, I run System -> Administration -> Printing, which runs the system-config-printer v0.7.82.5 program. If I choose the Add Printer icon, it says 'Searching Printers', and that's it. It just hangs there until infinity (or at least I assume infinity - haven't actually waited that long). I swapped over to browsing to the CUPS manager via htt://localhost:631 from a root GUI console login. Connect to CUPS, then choose Add Printer, punch in the Printer Name, Location, Description, choose Continue, and again it just hangs to infinity and beyond. So I'm stumped! This is tech support yelling "I can't print!". Has anyone else seen this issue on a stock install? and what did you do to alleviate the issue? My error_log is appended below. As you can see it just kinda -stops-. The printer that I'm attempting to install is a standard TCP/IP network printer located at 192.168.1.150 port 9100, and as you can see in the log below CUPS is seeing it. Also I'd like to avoid CLI setup of printers. That's why we use LTSP, right? Thanks. -Mike Rathburn Children First Florida ****error_log***** I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Listening to 127.0.0.1:631 (IPv4) I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Listening to /var/run/cups/cups.sock (Domain) I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Loaded configuration file "/etc/cups/cupsd.conf" I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Using default TempDir of /var/spool/cups/tmp... I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Configured for up to 100 clients. I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Allowing up to 100 client connections per host. I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Using policy "default" as the default! I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Full reload is required. I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Loaded MIME database from '/etc/cups': 35 types, 38 filters... D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Loading printer Cups-PDF... D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Loading printer LaserJet... I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Loading job cache file "/var/cache/cups/job.cache"... I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Full reload complete. I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Cleaning out old temporary files in "/var/spool/cups/tmp"... I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Listening to 127.0.0.1:631 on fd 4... I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Listening to /var/run/cups/cups.sock on fd 5... I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Resuming new connection processing... D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Discarding unused server-started event... D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:28 -0500] Report: clients=0 D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:28 -0500] Report: jobs=0 D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:28 -0500] Report: jobs-active=0 D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:28 -0500] Report: printers=2 D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:28 -0500] Report: printers-implicit=0 D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:28 -0500] Report: stringpool-string-count=396 D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:28 -0500] Report: stringpool-alloc-bytes=7696 D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:28 -0500] Report: stringpool-total-bytes=7736 D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] cupsdReadClient: 9 GET /admin?OP=add-printer HTTP/1.1 D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] [CGI] /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi started - PID = 26739 I [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] Started "/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi" (pid=26739) D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] cupsdSendCommand: 9 file=10 D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] [CGI] admin.cgi started... D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] cupsdAcceptClient: skipping getpeercon() D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] cupsdAcceptClient: 12 from localhost (Domain) D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] [CGI] http=0xb898c518 D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] [CGI] op="add-printer"... D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] [CGI] do_am_printer: DEVICE_URI="(null)" D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] [CGI] lang="en_US.UTF8", locale="/en_US"... D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] [CGI] lang="en_US.UTF8", locale="/en_US"... D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] [CGI] lang="en_US.UTF8", locale="/en_US"... D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] cupsdCloseClient: 12 D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] PID 26739 (/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi) exited with no errors. D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] cupsdReadClient: 9 POST /admin HTTP/1.1 D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [CGI] /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi started - PID = 26740 I [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] Started "/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi" (pid=26740) D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] cupsdSendCommand: 9 file=12 D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [CGI] admin.cgi started... D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] cupsdAcceptClient: skipping getpeercon() D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] cupsdAcceptClient: 10 from localhost (Domain) D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [CGI] http=0xb9fc4518 D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [CGI] op="add-printer"... D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [CGI] do_am_printer: DEVICE_URI="(null)" D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [CGI] Getting list of devices... D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] cupsdReadClient: 10 POST / HTTP/1.1 D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] CUPS-Get-Devices ipp://localhost/printers/ D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [CGI] /usr/lib/cups/daemon/cups-deviced started - PID = 26741 I [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] Started "/usr/lib/cups/daemon/cups-deviced" (pid=26741) D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] cupsdSendCommand: 10 file=13 D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "serial:/dev/ttyS0?baud=115200"... D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "cups-pdf:/"... D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "hal"... D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "smb"... D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "scsi"... D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "lpd"... D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "hp"... D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:08 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "socket://192.168.1.150"... D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:08 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "socket://192.168.1.152"... D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:09 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "hpfax"... D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:09 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "beh"... D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:09 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "socket"... D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:09 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "ipp"... ****************** From robark at gmail.com Mon Dec 8 17:42:56 2008 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 09:42:56 -0800 Subject: local apps how-to In-Reply-To: <20081208103005.M54927@gnuskole.no> References: <20081208103005.M54927@gnuskole.no> Message-ID: On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:31 AM, Odin N?sen wrote: >> and sound) work out of the box with F9 as a local app. This is really >> good news. We can have an entire class watching a youtube with pretty > > Which box? :-) The ordinary Fedora9 with LTSP-server installed or the K12linux LiveCD? > > I just installed F9 with ltsp-server and there is no automatic installed Firefox w/flash > (and sound). Sorry, what I meant by "out of the box" is that you just need to add the packages. No configuration files or env variables need editing. As Warren mentioned before I just added the adobe release rpm and used yum to install flash from within the chroot. I am currently trying to get Virtualbox to work as a local app, but no luck yet. The client can't seem to load the Virtualbox kernel module. If anyone manages this please post to list. Once this is accomplished we can teach Linux System administration using Virtualbox running locally. :) > > > Odin > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list > -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada Fl_TeacherTool http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/ C++ GUI tutorial http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/ From stretchem at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 01:32:40 2008 From: stretchem at gmail.com (M Rathburn) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 20:32:40 -0500 Subject: F9 - LTSP5 and CUPS Printer Configuration In-Reply-To: <493d4ff0.e203be0a.2ef2.ffffb875@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <493dcab9.161e640a.1367.fffff305@mx.google.com> I've installed F10 and not seeing this issue. Reinstalled F9, and CUPS works immediately afterwards. Did a 'yum update' to the system, and CUPS stops working. It's something in the updates after installing F9. I'm off to the CUPS mailing list. Will report back here if there's a solution. > -----Original Message----- > From: M Rathburn [mailto:stretchem at gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:49 AM > To: 'Development discussion of K12Linux' > Subject: F9 - LTSP5 and CUPS Printer Configuration > > I've installed Fedora 9 basic install, followed by a 'yum > update' of the > system, followed by a 'yum install ltsp-server'. Pretty > straightforward > installation following instructions in the Wiki. LTSP > working spectacularly via PXE TC's. > From brcisna at eazylivin.net Mon Dec 8 20:34:50 2008 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry R Cisna) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:34:50 -0600 Subject: F9 - LTSP5 and CUPS Printer Configuration In-Reply-To: <493d4ff0.e203be0a.2ef2.ffffb875@mx.google.com> References: <493d4ff0.e203be0a.2ef2.ffffb875@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1228768490.20382.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Mike, You didn't mention if this is a printer you have plugged into a TC via a usb cable? If this is the case ( unless the new jetpipe piece in ltsp5 treats usb printers differently), you will need to add a config into the lts.conf file for this printer> to the client. Your lts.conf should have an entry that looks something like the following: [ws006] PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usb/lp0 PRINTER_0_TYPE = u Try this, reboot the TC go into the cups GUI and see if you are seeing a 'green' printer now? Also from the server after rebooting the tc try and : telnet 9100 See if you get a response. See what you get with this. Take Care, Barry Cisna On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 11:48 -0500, M Rathburn wrote: > I've installed Fedora 9 basic install, followed by a 'yum update' of the > system, followed by a 'yum install ltsp-server'. Pretty straightforward > installation following instructions in the Wiki. LTSP working spectacularly > via PXE TC's. > > The server environment has two NIC's, eth0 faces the terminals, eth1 faces > the 'internet'. ltspbr0 is bridged to eth0, of course. All is working well > as far as TC connections and internet browsing from those connections. > > I give that detail information because I'm having a CUPS printer > configuration issue, and I'm thinking it may be a networking problem (?). > > >From the console Gnome login, I run System -> Administration -> Printing, > which runs the system-config-printer v0.7.82.5 program. If I choose the Add > Printer icon, it says 'Searching Printers', and that's it. It just hangs > there until infinity (or at least I assume infinity - haven't actually > waited that long). > > I swapped over to browsing to the CUPS manager via htt://localhost:631 from > a root GUI console login. Connect to CUPS, then choose Add Printer, punch > in the Printer Name, Location, Description, choose Continue, and again it > just hangs to infinity and beyond. > > So I'm stumped! This is tech support yelling "I can't print!". Has anyone > else seen this issue on a stock install? and what did you do to alleviate > the issue? My error_log is appended below. As you can see it just kinda > -stops-. The printer that I'm attempting to install is a standard TCP/IP > network printer located at 192.168.1.150 port 9100, and as you can see in > the log below CUPS is seeing it. > > Also I'd like to avoid CLI setup of printers. That's why we use LTSP, > right? > > Thanks. > > -Mike Rathburn > Children First Florida > > ****error_log***** > I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Listening to 127.0.0.1:631 (IPv4) > I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Listening to /var/run/cups/cups.sock (Domain) > I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Loaded configuration file > "/etc/cups/cupsd.conf" > I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Using default TempDir of > /var/spool/cups/tmp... > I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Configured for up to 100 clients. > I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Allowing up to 100 client connections per > host. > I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Using policy "default" as the default! > I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Full reload is required. > I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Loaded MIME database from '/etc/cups': 35 > types, 38 filters... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Loading printer Cups-PDF... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Loading printer LaserJet... > I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Loading job cache file > "/var/cache/cups/job.cache"... > I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Full reload complete. > I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Cleaning out old temporary files in > "/var/spool/cups/tmp"... > I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Listening to 127.0.0.1:631 on fd 4... > I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Listening to /var/run/cups/cups.sock on fd > 5... > I [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Resuming new connection processing... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:27 -0500] Discarding unused server-started event... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:28 -0500] Report: clients=0 > D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:28 -0500] Report: jobs=0 > D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:28 -0500] Report: jobs-active=0 > D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:28 -0500] Report: printers=2 > D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:28 -0500] Report: printers-implicit=0 > D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:28 -0500] Report: stringpool-string-count=396 > D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:28 -0500] Report: stringpool-alloc-bytes=7696 > D [08/Dec/2008:11:26:28 -0500] Report: stringpool-total-bytes=7736 > D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] cupsdReadClient: 9 GET /admin?OP=add-printer > HTTP/1.1 > D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data > provided. > D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] [CGI] /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi started > - PID = 26739 > I [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] Started "/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi" > (pid=26739) > D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] cupsdSendCommand: 9 file=10 > D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] [CGI] admin.cgi started... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] cupsdAcceptClient: skipping getpeercon() > D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] cupsdAcceptClient: 12 from localhost (Domain) > D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] [CGI] http=0xb898c518 > D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] [CGI] op="add-printer"... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] [CGI] do_am_printer: DEVICE_URI="(null)" > D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] [CGI] lang="en_US.UTF8", locale="/en_US"... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] [CGI] lang="en_US.UTF8", locale="/en_US"... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] [CGI] lang="en_US.UTF8", locale="/en_US"... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] cupsdCloseClient: 12 > D [08/Dec/2008:11:27:53 -0500] PID 26739 (/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi) > exited with no errors. > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] cupsdReadClient: 9 POST /admin HTTP/1.1 > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data > provided. > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [CGI] /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi started > - PID = 26740 > I [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] Started "/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi" > (pid=26740) > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] cupsdSendCommand: 9 file=12 > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [CGI] admin.cgi started... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] cupsdAcceptClient: skipping getpeercon() > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] cupsdAcceptClient: 10 from localhost (Domain) > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [CGI] http=0xb9fc4518 > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [CGI] op="add-printer"... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [CGI] do_am_printer: DEVICE_URI="(null)" > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [CGI] Getting list of devices... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] cupsdReadClient: 10 POST / HTTP/1.1 > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data > provided. > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] CUPS-Get-Devices ipp://localhost/printers/ > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [CGI] /usr/lib/cups/daemon/cups-deviced > started - PID = 26741 > I [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] Started "/usr/lib/cups/daemon/cups-deviced" > (pid=26741) > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] cupsdSendCommand: 10 file=13 > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device > "serial:/dev/ttyS0?baud=115200"... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "cups-pdf:/"... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "hal"... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "smb"... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "scsi"... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "lpd"... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:07 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "hp"... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:08 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device > "socket://192.168.1.150"... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:08 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device > "socket://192.168.1.152"... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:09 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "hpfax"... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:09 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "beh"... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:09 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "socket"... > D [08/Dec/2008:11:28:09 -0500] [cups-deviced] Added device "ipp"... > ****************** > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list From brcisna at eazylivin.net Mon Dec 8 20:53:24 2008 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry R Cisna) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:53:24 -0600 Subject: F9 - LTSP5 and CUPS Printer Configuration Message-ID: <1228769604.25351.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Mike, You didn't mention if this is a printer you have plugged into a TC via a usb cable? If this is the case ( unless the new jetpipe piece in ltsp5 treats usb printers differently), you will need to add a config into the lts.conf file for this printer> to the client. Your lts.conf should have an entry that looks something like the following: [ws006] PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usb/lp0 PRINTER_0_TYPE = u Try this, reboot the TC go into the cups GUI and see if you are seeing a 'green' printer now? Also from the server after rebooting the tc try and : telnet 9100 See if you get a response. See what you get with this. Take Care, Barry Cisna From stretchem at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 02:26:06 2008 From: stretchem at gmail.com (M Rathburn) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 21:26:06 -0500 Subject: F9 - LTSP5 and CUPS Printer Configuration In-Reply-To: <1228769604.25351.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <493dd73f.0e35640a.038a.ffff83be@mx.google.com> Hey Barry, it breaks no matter whether it's a local or a network printer. CUPS is breaking at the point where you can't even begin to configure a printer. Has nothing to do with LTSP. Something in the yum update of Fedora 9 is breaking it. Don't really have to the time or desire to try and find out which of the 850 updates is the culprit. :) So, I'm downloading Edubuntu now and we'll try that route. K12Linux - Has LTSP4.2. Need v5 for new TC's. CentOS5.2 & LTSP5 - No sound (still working on this one). F9 & LTSP5 - CUPS breaks on yum update. FL_teachertool not working yet. F10 - VNC doesn't work. > -----Original Message----- > From: k12linux-devel-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:k12linux-devel-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of > Barry R Cisna > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 3:53 PM > To: K12Linux-Devel-List > Subject: Re: F9 - LTSP5 and CUPS Printer Configuration > > Hi Mike, > > You didn't mention if this is a printer you have plugged into > a TC via a usb cable? From wtogami at redhat.com Fri Dec 12 04:18:32 2008 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:18:32 -0500 Subject: Testing Needed: ltsp-5.1.37 and ldm-2.0.22 Message-ID: <4941E618.5020802@redhat.com> http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/ltsp/ http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/ldm/ http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/ltspfs/ Please test the latest versions of these packages. It should maintain all previous features for existing users, but it adds a few exciting new features and capabilities like: * It is now possible to set a non-GNOME default desktop session for all new users. lts.conf now contains LDM_GLOBAL_DMRC=/etc/ltsp/ldm-global-dmrc, or you must add it manually if you have upgraded from a previous version. You can edit that file to specify a particular non-GNOME desktop session or language. A few examples are included commented out. * If the user selects a desktop session or language, it now asks if they want to save that choice for future logins. It is saved to ~/.dmrc in the user's home directory. Delete that file if you want the user to fall back to the LDM_GLOBAL_DMRC defaults. * All of the X_* lts.conf options should now be supported now, although this functionality is less proven at the moment. Please report back if you have tried these updated packages. I want to hear a few "IT WORKS" reports on both F-9 and F-10 before pushing to updates. NOTE: ldm installs into client ltsp-client installs into client ldminfod installs into server ltsp-server installs into server Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From odin at gnuskole.no Fri Dec 12 07:21:29 2008 From: odin at gnuskole.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Odin_N=F8sen?=) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:21:29 +0100 Subject: Can't connect to bonobo-server In-Reply-To: <4909BF58.3080608@redhat.com> References: <6befb72f0810300417q7d1f31e2p881cf893a7340300@mail.gmail.com> <4909BF58.3080608@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20081212071642.M88156@gnuskole.no> In the default F10 LTSP thin client I get an error that Nautilus doesn't start because it can't connect to the bonobo-activation-server. The prosess "/usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate --ior-output-fd=17" is left running on the TS after the user has logged out. I can remove the gnome-python2-bonobo-packages, but I'm then losing orca and gnome-widges. I'm using NIS and NFS to mount /home from a CentOS v5.2-server. I'm not getting this error in the default F9 LTSP thin client (with NIS and NFS). Someone got a good advice? Odin From odin at gnuskole.no Fri Dec 12 07:45:05 2008 From: odin at gnuskole.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Odin_N=F8sen?=) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:45:05 +0100 Subject: Can't connect to bonobo-server In-Reply-To: <20081212071642.M88156@gnuskole.no> References: <6befb72f0810300417q7d1f31e2p881cf893a7340300@mail.gmail.com> <4909BF58.3080608@redhat.com> <20081212071642.M88156@gnuskole.no> Message-ID: <20081212074312.M63253@gnuskole.no> > left running on the TS after the user has logged out. I can remove the gnome- > python2-bonobo-packages, but I'm then losing orca and gnome-widges. (gnome-applets) But it wasn't that easy. If I remove gnome-python2-bonobo then localapps doesn't work because the thin client can't connect to the user that logs on - and I _still_ got the Nautilus-error because bonobo can't connect to the server. Odin From brcisna at eazylivin.net Fri Dec 12 19:42:46 2008 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:42:46 -0600 Subject: Network install via nfs Message-ID: <1229110966.24633.9.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> Hello List, I've read as much as I can at the fedora lists in regards to doing an network( via nfs) install of FC9. I found were the .iso has to be loop mounted then have anaconda point to this mount point.Besides an nfs install this is also a problem with ftp,and html installs as well I have found. FYI. This got me a little farther than at first were pointing to the actual .iso failed at "Cant not find the iso9660 image". Now pointing anaconda to the actual loop mount point I get past this, but stops at "can not retrieve repository metadata,(repomd.xml) file." Please verify its path. I have the k12linix-terminal-server.iso loop mounted to /mnt/fc9 this is the path I give anaconda installer. Could someone please give me any pointers on what my path should be on FC9? I'm used to doing network installs for the ease and speed of it,:-) Thanks, Barry Cisna From wtogami at redhat.com Fri Dec 12 22:01:33 2008 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:01:33 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Testing Needed: ltsp-5.1.38 and ldm-2.0.23 Message-ID: <4942DF3D.6080601@redhat.com> http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/ltsp/ http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/ldm/ http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/ltspfs/ Please test the latest versions of these packages. It should maintain all previous features for existing users, but it adds a few exciting new features and capabilities like: * Oops, yesterday's ldm-2.0.22 broke LDM_DIRECTX=true which is the default config for Fedora. This has been fixed. * LOCAL_APPS_WHITELIST now makes it possible to limit commands you can run as a local app. Almost nobody needs this option, but it is at least possible now. * It is now possible to set a non-GNOME default desktop session for all new users. lts.conf now contains LDM_GLOBAL_DMRC=/etc/ltsp/ldm-global-dmrc, or you must add it manually if you have upgraded from a previous version. You can edit that file to specify a particular non-GNOME desktop session or language. A few examples are included commented out. * If the user selects a desktop session or language, it now asks if they want to save that choice for future logins. It is saved to ~/.dmrc in the user's home directory. Delete that file if you want the user to fall back to the LDM_GLOBAL_DMRC defaults. * All of the X_* lts.conf options should now be supported now, although this functionality is less proven at the moment. Please report back if you have tried these updated packages. I want to hear a few "IT WORKS" reports on both F-9 and F-10 before pushing to updates. NOTE: ldm installs into client ltsp-client installs into client ldminfod installs into server ltsp-server installs into server Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From brcisna at eazylivin.net Fri Dec 12 23:11:41 2008 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry R Cisna) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:11:41 -0600 Subject: Network install via nfs Message-ID: <1229123501.593.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello List, I wanted to add. This is as extensive as the FC9 installation manual gets in regards to doing an network install, in this case nfs. http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/installation_guides/fedora_9_installation_guide/fedora_9_sn-nfs-install-settings.html I also wanted to make it a little clearer,from my previous post. I get through all of the setup stuff,to were anaconda partitions and formats the drive and tries to start installing the OS. This is were I receive the various errors. In the same place actually, just a different error message. Also I did download the FC9 boot.iso to try and do my network install just to clarify this. Just curious if anyone here has actually done an network install with the k12lnux-terminal-server-fc9.iso? Thanks, Barry Cisna From wtogami at redhat.com Sat Dec 13 07:28:16 2008 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:28:16 -0500 Subject: Network install via nfs In-Reply-To: <1229110966.24633.9.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> References: <1229110966.24633.9.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> Message-ID: <49436410.8080009@redhat.com> Barry Cisna wrote: > I have the k12linix-terminal-server.iso loop mounted to /mnt/fc9 > this is the path I give anaconda installer. > Could someone please give me any pointers on what my path should be on > FC9? > I'm used to doing network installs for the ease and speed of it,:-) > You cannot network install from Live ISO images. Live ISO images however you can boot and install from, which is the point of k12linux ISO's. If you don't want to burn a DVD, use the LiveUSB option. Warren From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sat Dec 13 08:03:01 2008 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry R Cisna) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:03:01 -0600 Subject: Network install via nfs In-Reply-To: <49436410.8080009@redhat.com> References: <1229110966.24633.9.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> <49436410.8080009@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1229155381.25101.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Warren, Thanks for the info. I guess I've never tried doing an network install of a LiveCD. I understand the principle of using the LiveCD for simple less error prone installs for K12LTSP. Good idea:). Guess I'll have to get me a bigger USB stick and do the install that way. After loop mounting the LiveCD .iso I can see there are no 'images' as stated in the FC9 installation guide. Makes sense now. Thanks, Barry Cisna On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 02:28 -0500, Warren Togami wrote: > Barry Cisna wrote: > > I have the k12linix-terminal-server.iso loop mounted to /mnt/fc9 > > this is the path I give anaconda installer. > > Could someone please give me any pointers on what my path should be on > > FC9? > > I'm used to doing network installs for the ease and speed of it,:-) > > > > > You cannot network install from Live ISO images. Live ISO images > however you can boot and install from, which is the point of k12linux > ISO's. If you don't want to burn a DVD, use the LiveUSB option. > > Warren > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list From wtogami at redhat.com Sat Dec 13 08:13:45 2008 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:13:45 -0500 Subject: Network install via nfs In-Reply-To: <1229155381.25101.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1229110966.24633.9.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> <49436410.8080009@redhat.com> <1229155381.25101.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49436EB9.3050606@redhat.com> I am working on a F10 version of the K12Linux live image. But so many things broke recently and began acting very weird after that dbus update. It looks like walters is backing out the dbus update so we might have things working again. We'll see... Warren From john.ellson at comcast.net Sat Dec 13 22:38:40 2008 From: john.ellson at comcast.net (John Ellson) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:38:40 -0500 Subject: Testing Needed: ltsp-5.1.37 and ldm-2.0.22 In-Reply-To: <4941E618.5020802@redhat.com> References: <4941E618.5020802@redhat.com> Message-ID: <49443970.5020606@comcast.net> I'd like to test, but ltsp-build-client is ending with: ============== ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.0:/org/freedesktop/Hal/Manager: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable" member "Introspect" error name "(unset)" destination ":1.0") sh: /usr/sbin/setenforce: No such file or directory Cleaning up chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 Updating /var/lib/tftpboot directories for chroot: /opt/ltsp/i386 info: LTSP client installation completed successfully ============== This is on a fully updated fc10, x86_64 ltsp server, trying to support i386 clients. Is this from the general dbus disaster, or would you like separate bug reports? John Warren Togami wrote: > http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/ltsp/ > http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/ldm/ > http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/ltspfs/ > > Please test the latest versions of these packages. It should maintain > all previous features for existing users, but it adds a few exciting > new features and capabilities like: > > * It is now possible to set a non-GNOME default desktop session for > all new users. lts.conf now contains > LDM_GLOBAL_DMRC=/etc/ltsp/ldm-global-dmrc, or you must add it manually > if you have upgraded from a previous version. You can edit that file > to specify a particular non-GNOME desktop session or language. A few > examples are included commented out. > > * If the user selects a desktop session or language, it now asks if > they want to save that choice for future logins. It is saved to > ~/.dmrc in the user's home directory. Delete that file if you want > the user to fall back to the LDM_GLOBAL_DMRC defaults. > > * All of the X_* lts.conf options should now be supported now, > although this functionality is less proven at the moment. > > Please report back if you have tried these updated packages. I want > to hear a few "IT WORKS" reports on both F-9 and F-10 before pushing > to updates. > > NOTE: > ldm installs into client > ltsp-client installs into client > ldminfod installs into server > ltsp-server installs into server > > Warren Togami > wtogami at redhat.com > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list > -- John Ellson From wtogami at redhat.com Sun Dec 14 00:47:23 2008 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:47:23 -0500 Subject: Testing Needed: ltsp-5.1.37 and ldm-2.0.22 In-Reply-To: <49443970.5020606@comcast.net> References: <4941E618.5020802@redhat.com> <49443970.5020606@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4944579B.2050801@redhat.com> John Ellson wrote: > I'd like to test, but ltsp-build-client is ending with: > > ============== > ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on > :1.0:/org/freedesktop/Hal/Manager: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: > org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place > prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see > message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface > "org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable" member "Introspect" error name > "(unset)" destination ":1.0") > sh: /usr/sbin/setenforce: No such file or directory > Cleaning up chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 > Updating /var/lib/tftpboot directories for chroot: /opt/ltsp/i386 > info: LTSP client installation completed successfully > ============== > > This is on a fully updated fc10, x86_64 ltsp server, trying to support > i386 clients. > > Is this from the general dbus disaster, or would you like separate bug > reports? > > John General dbus disaster... breaks stuff both in the client chroot and server. dbus is getting reverted to the original 1.2.4 version with incremented epoch. http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/dbus/1.2.4/2.fc9/ http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/dbus/1.2.4/2.fc10/ I've added it to the k12linux-temporary repos so ltsp-build-client wont have dbus errors. For the moment you will need to manually upgrade the dbus packages on your already existing client chroot or server with packages from here. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From wtogami at redhat.com Tue Dec 16 20:36:07 2008 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:36:07 -0500 Subject: PowerPC iMacs as LTSP thin clients Message-ID: <49481137.7040100@redhat.com> http://wtogami.livejournal.com/29574.html "Schools have thousands of old G3 iMacs that are now too old and slow to be useful. They would be useful again if they were LTSP thin clients, logging into a modern x86_64 terminal server. So I tried to make them boot as thin clients using LTSP and standard Fedora ppc components. The next release of ltsp will automatically build a thin client chroot in /opt/ltsp/ppc with the ltsp-build-client command. The idea is that you could copy that /opt/ltsp/ppc chroot to your x86_64 server that handles ordinary i386 client netboot, and through dhcpd.conf trickery it could serve netboot to the PPC clients. Unfortunately I couldn't get it to work." Read the blog for details. If anybody has further suggestions of stuff to try I'm all ears. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From brcisna at eazylivin.net Tue Dec 16 21:21:18 2008 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry R Cisna) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:21:18 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] PowerPC iMacs as LTSP thin clients Message-ID: <1229462478.15069.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Warren, Just thought I would throw this out in regards to Imacs viability with K12LTSP. The model I got to work very easily was the Imac Indigo's. These are the dull cased, kiddy colored all in one case models. These have the slotload CD's in them is the easiest way i know to distuguish them. I got 24 of these to work fine,along with sound. Sound worked on Tuxtype.etc,as well. I never did try flash. This has been almost 4 years ago,and flash was dodgy at best even on PC's. I did NOT have to do any bios updating on any of them and they all had different version bios's on them just to verify this. The key on getting these to boot is learning the mac Openfirmware( I think) is what it is called, You can save the parameters,permantly as you like and they reboot every time with the parameters you feed it. I tried pretty hard to get Emacs, (which we had 20 of), to work and never had any luck with these. The Imac indigos do make very nice All in one machines that are very speedy. There are tons of these lying around in storage closets ,I'm sure. Here is a link to a 'how to' I done,on how to get sound working on the Imac Indigo All in One's; http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/SoundCards#Sound_on_Imac_Indigo_as_a_thin_c Hope this helps a little. **Added- ** Sorry sent this first time to K12osn list. Take Care, Barry Cisna From wtogami at redhat.com Wed Dec 17 01:26:35 2008 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:26:35 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] PowerPC iMacs as LTSP thin clients In-Reply-To: <1229462478.15069.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1229462478.15069.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4948554B.7090400@redhat.com> Barry R Cisna wrote: > Hi Warren, > > Just thought I would throw this out in regards to Imacs viability with > K12LTSP. The model I got to work very easily was the Imac Indigo's. > These are the dull cased, kiddy colored all in one case models. These > have the slotload CD's in them is the easiest way i know to distuguish > them. I got 24 of these to work fine,along with sound. Sound worked on > Tuxtype.etc,as well. I never did try flash. This has been almost 4 years > ago,and flash was dodgy at best even on PC's. I did NOT have to do any > bios updating on any of them and they all had different version bios's > on them just to verify this. The key on getting these to boot is > learning the mac Openfirmware( I think) is what it is called, You can > save the parameters,permantly as you like and they reboot every time > with the parameters you feed it. I tried pretty hard to get Emacs, > (which we had 20 of), to work and never had any luck with these. The > Imac indigos do make very nice All in one machines that are very speedy. > There are tons of these lying around in storage closets ,I'm sure. > Here is a link to a 'how to' I done,on how to get sound working on the > Imac Indigo All in One's; No doubt it worked 4 years ago, but as I noted in the blog post there appears to be bugs in F-10 preventing netboot from working. Warren From kkmageshcse at gmail.com Wed Dec 17 10:30:10 2008 From: kkmageshcse at gmail.com (magesh) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:00:10 +0530 Subject: help me...! customizing the grub Message-ID: hi everybody iam magesh, (a final yr. engineering student from chennai)a Fedora Ambassador too. i am doing a project based on the LTSP so for that i need to customize my grub need to add pxe as well as gfxboot support to the grub so anyone help me.... -- magesh LiFe is "just tryin out things to see if they work" http://planetsum.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Confused John From wtogami at redhat.com Wed Dec 17 14:33:49 2008 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:33:49 -0500 Subject: help me...! customizing the grub In-Reply-To: <4948FCAF.9070201@research.att.com> References: <4948FCAF.9070201@research.att.com> Message-ID: <49490DCD.10406@redhat.com> John Ellson wrote: > > Why does grub care about how the BIOS got to it? > Also why is grub involved at all? It isn't even used to boot a LTSP client. Warren From kkmageshcse at gmail.com Wed Dec 17 17:51:51 2008 From: kkmageshcse at gmail.com (magesh) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:51:51 -0800 Subject: help me...! customizing the grub In-Reply-To: <49490DCD.10406@redhat.com> References: <4948FCAF.9070201@research.att.com> <49490DCD.10406@redhat.com> Message-ID: Actually i need to explain it to do briefly As a final year Academic project we thought of doing a new project(which is based on the LTSP) the idea is making the thinclients to boot from Grub(So that users can choose to which server they want to connect whether it may be windows or fedora or Redhat) i have read that Grub has a patch for pxe booting So we have planned to implement this grub in our project( patching both the pxeboot and gfxboot support in the grub) we have patched the pxeboot while configuring the grub and the thinclient booted successfully same way the gfxboot was also successfull but when we tried to patch both the pxeboot and gfxboot into the grub source, the size increases hence the gfxboot fails So our project must be like adding these two features...... so i need help On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Warren Togami wrote: > John Ellson wrote: > >> >> Why does grub care about how the BIOS got to it? >> >> > Also why is grub involved at all? It isn't even used to boot a LTSP > client. > > Warren > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list > -- magesh LiFe is "just tryin out things to see if they work" http://planetsum.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ellson at research.att.com Thu Dec 18 14:56:20 2008 From: ellson at research.att.com (John Ellson) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:56:20 -0500 Subject: help me...! customizing the grub In-Reply-To: References: <4948FCAF.9070201@research.att.com> <49490DCD.10406@redhat.com> Message-ID: <494A6494.9020605@research.att.com> Magesh, This is your project, and perhaps you have other reasons for basing this on grub, but it seems strange to me: - using grub requires a hard disk, but LTSP has worked really hard to get rid of that. - as Warren pointed out, LTSP doesn't use grub now. I'm not really an LTSP expert, so other people might have better ideas, but if your goal is to allow the user to select from multiple operating systems on an LTSP client, couldn't you: - have dhcp provide a simple console boot-image-selector in the initial tftp transfer. - have the boot-image-selector initiate a second tftp transfer, from a location based on the user's selection. Perhaps this boot-image-selector coud be adapted from gfxboot? Just trying to help... John magesh wrote: > Actually i need to explain it to do briefly > > As a final year Academic project we thought of doing a new project(which is > based on the LTSP) > > the idea is > > making the thinclients to boot from Grub(So that users can choose to which > server they want to connect whether it may be windows or fedora or Redhat) > > i have read that Grub has a patch for pxe booting > > So we have planned to implement this grub in our project( patching both the > pxeboot and gfxboot support in the grub) > > we have patched the pxeboot while configuring the grub and the thinclient > booted successfully > > same way the gfxboot was also successfull > > but when we tried to patch both the pxeboot and gfxboot into the grub > source, the size increases hence the gfxboot fails > > So our project must be like adding these two features...... > > so i need help > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Warren Togami wrote: > > >> John Ellson wrote: >> >> >>> Why does grub care about how the BIOS got to it? >>> >>> >>> >> Also why is grub involved at all? It isn't even used to boot a LTSP >> client. >> >> Warren >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12Linux-devel-list mailing list >> K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list From kkmageshcse at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 17:22:46 2008 From: kkmageshcse at gmail.com (magesh) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:52:46 +0530 Subject: help me...! Another requirement Message-ID: Thank you for your answers for the grub Now i have another question, how does the kernel actually detects the hard disk or the usb drives(flash) i need to add this functionality to my customized kernel..... i googled it and got confused.... so anybody explain me clearly how does the kernel identify the hard disks or usb drives and automounts it immediately when identified Expalin the process clearly please is it the udev responsible for this or any other ? please let me know Thanyou magesh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ellson at research.att.com Thu Dec 18 18:06:14 2008 From: ellson at research.att.com (John Ellson) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:06:14 -0500 Subject: help me...! Another requirement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <494A9116.5090802@research.att.com> magesh wrote: > > Thank you for your answers for the grub > Now i have another question, how does the kernel actually detects the > hard disk or the usb drives(flash) > i need to add this functionality to my customized kernel..... > i googled it and got confused.... > so anybody explain me clearly how does the kernel identify the hard > disks or usb drives and automounts it immediately when identified > > Expalin the process clearly please > > is it the udev responsible for this or any other ? please let me know > > > Thanyou > > magesh > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list Googling for "linux boot process faq" produced this which looks like it might answer some of your questions. http://www.eukhost.com/forums/f15/linux-boot-process-6251/ Basically, the bios looks for a MBR on some device, or netboot, according to your selected boot priorities. The MBR starts grub, or lilo. Or the netboot (pxe bios extension, or whatever) gets an IP from DHCP and then starts a tftp transfer from a server identified by the DHCP server. AFAIK udev doesn't get involved until after init, at which point it might identify additional disks or USB devices. John From kkmageshcse at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 18:29:29 2008 From: kkmageshcse at gmail.com (magesh) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:59:29 +0530 Subject: help me...! Another requirement In-Reply-To: <494A9116.5090802@research.att.com> References: <494A9116.5090802@research.att.com> Message-ID: so you mean that the basically the init identifies every scsi devices (whether it be usb or hard disk) Then can you tell me how does it automounts the found scsi devices( as in fedora we can see the devices or partitions on the desktop, i mean it gets automounted) So is it the init is responsible for the automounting or it is the udev?? thankyou magesh > Basically, the bios looks for a MBR on some device, or netboot, according > to your selected boot priorities. > The MBR starts grub, or lilo. > Or the netboot (pxe bios extension, or whatever) gets an IP from DHCP and > then starts a tftp transfer from a server identified by the DHCP server. > > AFAIK udev doesn't get involved until after init, at which point it might > identify additional disks or USB devices. > > John > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list > -- magesh LiFe is "just tryin out things to see if they work" http://planetsum.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ellson at research.att.com Thu Dec 18 19:19:22 2008 From: ellson at research.att.com (John Ellson) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:19:22 -0500 Subject: help me...! Another requirement In-Reply-To: References: <494A9116.5090802@research.att.com> Message-ID: <494AA23A.9090105@research.att.com> Magesh, As I understand it, the BIOS must know how to get the MBR off the boot device, so that means the BIOS must know how to read a SCSI device. It does this by means of BIOS extension code from a ROM on the SCSI interface card. Similarly, network booting is done with BIOS extension code from a ROM on the network card. Init/udev are used later on, after the kernel is running, to rescan all devices; not just the ones needed for booting. Automounting usually refers to the NFS process of only mounting a directory over the network when it is read. That happens later after the system is fully running. See autofs. John magesh wrote: > so you mean that the basically the init identifies every scsi devices > (whether it be usb or hard disk) > Then can you tell me how does it automounts the found scsi devices( as > in fedora we can see the devices or partitions on the desktop, i mean > it gets automounted) > So is it the init is responsible for the automounting or it is the udev?? > > thankyou > magesh > > > > Basically, the bios looks for a MBR on some device, or netboot, > according to your selected boot priorities. > The MBR starts grub, or lilo. > Or the netboot (pxe bios extension, or whatever) gets an IP from > DHCP and then starts a tftp transfer from a server identified by > the DHCP server. > > AFAIK udev doesn't get involved until after init, at which point > it might identify additional disks or USB devices. > > John > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list > > > > > -- > magesh > LiFe is "just tryin out things to see if they work" > > http://planetsum.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list From wtogami at redhat.com Sat Dec 20 16:08:07 2008 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 11:08:07 -0500 Subject: Untested K12Linux F10 Live media Message-ID: <494D1867.6010000@redhat.com> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/ltsp/k12linux/f10/untested/ Untested K12Linux F10 Live media. Please test it and give your feedback? I am flying all day Sunday but I will be able to make some changes the following day. I hope to release "rc1" real soon. Main changes might be some text updates to the Quickstart guide sitting on the desktop written by Peter Scheie. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From monteslu at cox.net Sat Dec 20 16:41:13 2008 From: monteslu at cox.net (Luis Montes) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 09:41:13 -0700 Subject: Untested K12Linux F10 Live media In-Reply-To: <494D1867.6010000@redhat.com> References: <494D1867.6010000@redhat.com> Message-ID: <494D2029.8030301@cox.net> I'm not clear on the Live stuff. Do you want testing with running an ltsp server using the live disc or just test installing and running a server normally but using the "live" media to do the installation? Luis Warren Togami wrote: > http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/ltsp/k12linux/f10/untested/ > Untested K12Linux F10 Live media. Please test it and give your > feedback? I am flying all day Sunday but I will be able to make some > changes the following day. I hope to release "rc1" real soon. Main > changes might be some text updates to the Quickstart guide sitting on > the desktop written by Peter Scheie. > > Warren Togami > wtogami at redhat.com > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list > From wtogami at redhat.com Sat Dec 20 17:49:30 2008 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:49:30 -0500 Subject: Untested K12Linux F10 Live media In-Reply-To: <494D2029.8030301@cox.net> References: <494D1867.6010000@redhat.com> <494D2029.8030301@cox.net> Message-ID: <494D302A.2090206@redhat.com> Luis Montes wrote: > I'm not clear on the Live stuff. > > Do you want testing with running an ltsp server using the live disc or > just test installing and running a server normally but using the "live" > media to do the installation? > > Luis Both From kkmageshcse at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 17:51:56 2008 From: kkmageshcse at gmail.com (magesh) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:21:56 +0530 Subject: help me...! customizing the grub In-Reply-To: <494A6494.9020605@research.att.com> References: <4948FCAF.9070201@research.att.com> <49490DCD.10406@redhat.com> <494A6494.9020605@research.att.com> Message-ID: Actually i want to use grub..... becoz so that users who want to use the storage devices in the thick client can boot via grub..... grub has a possibility for booting via pxe i have tried pxe grub it works but now i want to use the gfxboot any idea anyone? -- magesh LiFe is "just tryin out things to see if they work" http://planetsum.com/ On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:26 PM, John Ellson wrote: > Magesh, > > This is your project, and perhaps you have other reasons for basing this on > grub, but it seems strange to me: > - using grub requires a hard disk, but LTSP has worked really hard to get > rid of that. > - as Warren pointed out, LTSP doesn't use grub now. > > I'm not really an LTSP expert, so other people might have better ideas, but > if your goal is to allow the user > to select from multiple operating systems on an LTSP client, couldn't you: > - have dhcp provide a simple console boot-image-selector in the initial > tftp transfer. > - have the boot-image-selector initiate a second tftp transfer, from a > location based on the user's selection. > Perhaps this boot-image-selector coud be adapted from gfxboot? > > > Just trying to help... > > John > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter at scheie.homedns.org Mon Dec 22 01:05:07 2008 From: peter at scheie.homedns.org (Peter Scheie) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:05:07 -0600 Subject: Respin of K12Linux-F9: SELinux prevents rpcbind from starting Message-ID: <494EE7C3.7060303@scheie.homedns.org> Warren, I did a rebuild of the F9 K12Linux using the livecd-creator script, as we discussed. Build-wise it's fine. But when I boot the resulting ISO, SELinux is preventing rpcbind from starting. I was able to make it work by following the steps that the AVC monitor suggests; but for demo purposes, this should not be a requirement. Is this something that can be fixed in the kickstart file? Or where? Peter From wtogami at redhat.com Mon Dec 22 10:19:25 2008 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:19:25 -0500 Subject: Respin of K12Linux-F9: SELinux prevents rpcbind from starting In-Reply-To: <494EE7C3.7060303@scheie.homedns.org> References: <494EE7C3.7060303@scheie.homedns.org> Message-ID: <494F69AD.2070807@redhat.com> Peter Scheie wrote: > Warren, > I did a rebuild of the F9 K12Linux using the livecd-creator script, as > we discussed. Build-wise it's fine. But when I boot the resulting ISO, > SELinux is preventing rpcbind from starting. I was able to make it work > by following the steps that the AVC monitor suggests; but for demo > purposes, this should not be a requirement. Is this something that can > be fixed in the kickstart file? Or where? > What is the exact AVC line that prints to /var/lib/audit/audit.log? Warren From andrew at mobileitsolutions.co.uk Mon Dec 22 11:03:06 2008 From: andrew at mobileitsolutions.co.uk (Andrew Osborne) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:03:06 +0000 Subject: Respin of K12Linux-F9: SELinux prevents rpcbind from starting In-Reply-To: <494F69AD.2070807@redhat.com> References: <494EE7C3.7060303@scheie.homedns.org> <494F69AD.2070807@redhat.com> Message-ID: <6befb72f0812220303m5a26f669p58bfff21bc98c571@mail.gmail.com> Is it posible to have a second Bridge to say eth2? as i wanted to reduce the bottle neck on the servers network card by using a second card for the K12Linux network. On 22/12/2008, Warren Togami wrote: > > Peter Scheie wrote: > >> Warren, >> I did a rebuild of the F9 K12Linux using the livecd-creator script, as we >> discussed. Build-wise it's fine. But when I boot the resulting ISO, >> SELinux is preventing rpcbind from starting. I was able to make it work by >> following the steps that the AVC monitor suggests; but for demo purposes, >> this should not be a requirement. Is this something that can be fixed in >> the kickstart file? Or where? >> >> > What is the exact AVC line that prints to /var/lib/audit/audit.log? > > Warren > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list > -- Andrew M Osborne www.mobileitsolutions.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wtogami at redhat.com Mon Dec 22 11:25:16 2008 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:25:16 -0500 Subject: Respin of K12Linux-F9: SELinux prevents rpcbind from starting In-Reply-To: <6befb72f0812220303m5a26f669p58bfff21bc98c571@mail.gmail.com> References: <494EE7C3.7060303@scheie.homedns.org> <494F69AD.2070807@redhat.com> <6befb72f0812220303m5a26f669p58bfff21bc98c571@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <494F791C.9080404@redhat.com> Andrew Osborne wrote: > Is it posible to have a second Bridge to say eth2? > > as i wanted to reduce the bottle neck on the servers network card by > using a second card for the K12Linux network. If eth2 is plugged into a separate physical network, then you could simply add it to the ltspbr0 bridge and it will just work like the other interface attached to the eth1 bridge. If it is on the same physical network as the other interface, then this wouldn't work. I have seen similar things cause a nasty network feedback loop crippling the switch until it was unplugged, but I am unsure if that would happen in this case. If it is on the same physical network (different gigabit port?) then you would need to assign it its own IP address unique from the bridge and do load balancing so clients use one or the other. ltsp upstream has some ltsp-cluster code that we have not yet enabled in Fedora's builds. I wont have time to try this yet until I get back from vacation mid-January. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From peter at scheie.homedns.org Tue Dec 23 16:35:27 2008 From: peter at scheie.homedns.org (Peter Scheie) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:35:27 -0600 Subject: Respin of K12Linux-F9: SELinux prevents rpcbind from starting In-Reply-To: <494F69AD.2070807@redhat.com> References: <494EE7C3.7060303@scheie.homedns.org> <494F69AD.2070807@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4951134F.6050203@scheie.homedns.org> Warren Togami wrote: > Peter Scheie wrote: >> Warren, >> I did a rebuild of the F9 K12Linux using the livecd-creator script, as >> we discussed. Build-wise it's fine. But when I boot the resulting >> ISO, SELinux is preventing rpcbind from starting. I was able to make >> it work by following the steps that the AVC monitor suggests; but for >> demo purposes, this should not be a requirement. Is this something >> that can be fixed in the kickstart file? Or where? >> > > What is the exact AVC line that prints to /var/lib/audit/audit.log? > > Warren > type=AVC msg=audit(1230067347.404:17): avc: denied { setgid } for pid=4369 comm="rpcbind" capability=6 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:rpcbind_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:system_r:rpcbind_t:s0 tclass=capability type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1230067347.404:17): arch=40000003 syscall=214 success=no exit=-1 a0=20 a1=2db9bc a2=2105b0 a3=bfe073c0 items=0 ppid=1 pid=4369 auid=500 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none) ses=1 comm="rpcbind" exe="/sbin/rpcbind" subj=unconfined_u:system_r:rpcbind_t:s0 key=(null) From peter at scheie.homedns.org Thu Dec 25 22:49:54 2008 From: peter at scheie.homedns.org (Peter Scheie) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:49:54 -0600 Subject: Untested K12Linux F10 Live media In-Reply-To: <494D1867.6010000@redhat.com> References: <494D1867.6010000@redhat.com> Message-ID: <49540E12.9060205@scheie.homedns.org> Installed the ISO onto a USB stick, and that boots just fine. Went through the steps to enable the network bridge, with no troubles. Booted a thin client, a Dell Latitude laptop that pxe boots. But ldm seems broken: the blue login screen background and a text entry box come up, but there's no text, no icons, typing does not produce anything in the text entry box. I uncommented SCREEN_02=shell in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf and rebooted the TC, but still was not able to Ctrl-Alt-F2 to a terminal screen. It's as if the keyboard is dead (except it works just fine with a F9 K12Linux server). Peter Warren Togami wrote: > http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/ltsp/k12linux/f10/untested/ > Untested K12Linux F10 Live media. Please test it and give your > feedback? I am flying all day Sunday but I will be able to make some > changes the following day. I hope to release "rc1" real soon. Main > changes might be some text updates to the Quickstart guide sitting on > the desktop written by Peter Scheie. > > Warren Togami > wtogami at redhat.com > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list > From wtogami at redhat.com Fri Dec 26 10:35:23 2008 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:35:23 -0500 Subject: Untested K12Linux F10 Live media In-Reply-To: <49540E12.9060205@scheie.homedns.org> References: <494D1867.6010000@redhat.com> <49540E12.9060205@scheie.homedns.org> Message-ID: <4954B36B.1090802@redhat.com> Peter Scheie wrote: > Installed the ISO onto a USB stick, and that boots just fine. Went > through the steps to enable the network bridge, with no troubles. > Booted a thin client, a Dell Latitude laptop that pxe boots. But ldm > seems broken: the blue login screen background and a text entry box come > up, but there's no text, no icons, typing does not produce anything in > the text entry box. I uncommented SCREEN_02=shell in > /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf and rebooted the TC, but still was > not able to Ctrl-Alt-F2 to a terminal screen. It's as if the keyboard > is dead (except it works just fine with a F9 K12Linux server). > > Peter Please try this: 1) Install from the ISO to hard drive. 2) mv /opt/ltsp/i386 /opt/ltsp/i386-f10 3) ltps-build-client --release=9 This builds a F9 client chroot instead of F10. You can swap i386 and i386-f10 (run ltsp-update-kernels after you swap their locations) and compare client behavior between F9 and F10. It is possible that this is a new X bug in F10 that was not present in F9. What kind of client hardware is this? Is all client hardware of other chipsets affected as well? Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From wtogami at redhat.com Fri Dec 26 10:41:02 2008 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:41:02 -0500 Subject: Untested K12Linux F10 Live media In-Reply-To: <494D1867.6010000@redhat.com> References: <494D1867.6010000@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4954B4BE.8010809@redhat.com> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/ltsp/k12linux/f10/untested2/ Updated images for i386 and x86_64... completely untested at this point. Feedback is needed. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From wtogami at redhat.com Sun Dec 28 09:33:50 2008 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 04:33:50 -0500 Subject: K12Linux F10 Live media In-Reply-To: <4954B4BE.8010809@redhat.com> References: <494D1867.6010000@redhat.com> <4954B4BE.8010809@redhat.com> Message-ID: <495747FE.2030800@redhat.com> Warren Togami wrote: > http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/ltsp/k12linux/f10/untested2/ > Updated images for i386 and x86_64... completely untested at this point. > Feedback is needed. I tested this image just now. It seems to work fine, but I noticed an error in Peter's k12linux-quickstart-guide. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464430 I think we are ready for a F10 Live Server release only after the contents of the documentation are reviewed/improved. Please try the above URL. It is very close to release quality. Let me know if you see any big problems. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From henryhartley at westat.com Mon Dec 29 14:51:57 2008 From: henryhartley at westat.com (Henry Hartley) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:51:57 -0500 Subject: K12Linux F10 Live media In-Reply-To: <495747FE.2030800@redhat.com> Message-ID: <62432006F5965C42BAEC4EA29286EE0507B4C33B1A@EX-CMS01.westat.com> Warren Togami wrote: >> >> Warren Togami wrote: >> > http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/ltsp/k12linux/f10/untested2/ >> > Updated images for i386 and x86_64... completely untested at this >> > point. Feedback is needed. >> >> I tested this image just now. It seems to work fine, but I noticed >> an error in Peter's k12linux-quickstart-guide. Is there a way we can use rsync to update the iso file to the latest? That would save a bit of bandwith at this point, assuming a significant portion of the file hasn't changed. -- Henry Hartley