From william at fragakis.com Fri May 8 19:33:35 2009 From: william at fragakis.com (William Fragakis) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 15:33:35 -0400 Subject: question on color depth default In-Reply-To: <20090501160031.371EE61A9E9@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20090501160031.371EE61A9E9@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1241811215.5588.56.camel@server.ltsp> I see that the default lts.conf setting for color depth is commented out. Is that how it is upstream or a Fedora decision? Be enabling (uncommenting) X_COLOR_DEPTH=16 my glxgears framerates have doubled on an atom based thin client. I'd rather not set the xorg settings for the server at 16 bit because it is a high end card I use for non-LTSP purposes. Thanks, William From burke at thealmquists.net Fri May 8 20:08:21 2009 From: burke at thealmquists.net (Almquist Burke) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 15:08:21 -0500 Subject: question on color depth default In-Reply-To: <1241811215.5588.56.camel@server.ltsp> References: <20090501160031.371EE61A9E9@hormel.redhat.com> <1241811215.5588.56.camel@server.ltsp> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On May 8, 2009, at 2:33 PM, William Fragakis wrote: > I see that the default lts.conf setting for color depth is commented > out. > > Is that how it is upstream or a Fedora decision? Be enabling > (uncommenting) > X_COLOR_DEPTH=16 > my glxgears framerates have doubled on an atom based thin client. > > I'd rather not set the xorg settings for the server at 16 bit > because it > is a high end card I use for non-LTSP purposes. > > Where did you uncomment this? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkoEkTUACgkQxWV7OPa/g5GtZgCdEcOqIzraNbqe8bPdscrRxzLm FCgAnA5gEnMTRT87oaSgl3OkptdmJj6h =Dim/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us Fri May 8 21:33:27 2009 From: dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us (Dan Young) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 14:33:27 -0700 Subject: question on color depth default In-Reply-To: References: <20090501160031.371EE61A9E9@hormel.redhat.com> <1241811215.5588.56.camel@server.ltsp> Message-ID: <994441ae0905081433u663812a4q64378015ef0b9390@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Almquist Burke wrote: > Where did you uncomment this? It's in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf -- Dan Young Multnomah ESD - Technology Services 503-257-1562 From burke at thealmquists.net Fri May 8 21:58:43 2009 From: burke at thealmquists.net (Almquist Burke) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:58:43 -0500 Subject: question on color depth default In-Reply-To: <994441ae0905081433u663812a4q64378015ef0b9390@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090501160031.371EE61A9E9@hormel.redhat.com> <1241811215.5588.56.camel@server.ltsp> <994441ae0905081433u663812a4q64378015ef0b9390@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9DC23AF0-7A12-432E-AC90-AC4ADAE42FF7@thealmquists.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On May 8, 2009, at 4:33 PM, Dan Young wrote: > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Almquist Burke > wrote: >> Where did you uncomment this? > > It's in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf > That's were the lts.conf file is located. What I mean, is that uncommenting this in the lts.conf shouldn't effect the server's Xorg settings, just the client's, so William F shouldn't have anything to worry about. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkoEqxMACgkQxWV7OPa/g5F/6QCfV+z4xd3O996VdEbkDI5fs4pH p74AnRbXGGEcWwvaMt/ioU1IWBNiKXhN =2Y7X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From burke at thealmquists.net Fri May 8 21:58:43 2009 From: burke at thealmquists.net (Almquist Burke) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:58:43 -0500 Subject: question on color depth default In-Reply-To: <994441ae0905081433u663812a4q64378015ef0b9390@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090501160031.371EE61A9E9@hormel.redhat.com> <1241811215.5588.56.camel@server.ltsp> <994441ae0905081433u663812a4q64378015ef0b9390@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9DC23AF0-7A12-432E-AC90-AC4ADAE42FF7@thealmquists.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On May 8, 2009, at 4:33 PM, Dan Young wrote: > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Almquist Burke > wrote: >> Where did you uncomment this? > > It's in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf > That's were the lts.conf file is located. What I mean, is that uncommenting this in the lts.conf shouldn't effect the server's Xorg settings, just the client's, so William F shouldn't have anything to worry about. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkoEqxMACgkQxWV7OPa/g5F/6QCfV+z4xd3O996VdEbkDI5fs4pH p74AnRbXGGEcWwvaMt/ioU1IWBNiKXhN =2Y7X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From william at fragakis.com Sat May 9 23:33:09 2009 From: william at fragakis.com (William Fragakis) Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 19:33:09 -0400 Subject: question on color depth default In-Reply-To: <20090509160036.522CA8E033F@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20090509160036.522CA8E033F@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1241911989.1567.3.camel@server.ltsp> Okay, maybe I was being too elliptical in an effort to be polite... Seeing how video performance improves noticeably and most users outside of the graphics community really can't tell the difference between 16 and 32 bit color, why wouldn't 16 bit be the default setting in lts.conf? Is this something that is set at the ltsp dev level or the k12linux dev level? Thanks again, William On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 12:00 -0400, k12linux-devel-list-request at redhat.com wrote: > On May 8, 2009, at 4:33 PM, Dan Young wrote: > > > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Almquist Burke > > wrote: > >> Where did you uncomment this? > > > > It's in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf > > > > That's were the lts.conf file is located. What I mean, is that > uncommenting this in the lts.conf shouldn't effect the server's Xorg > settings, just the client's, so William F shouldn't have anything to > worry about. > From burke at thealmquists.net Sun May 10 00:41:39 2009 From: burke at thealmquists.net (Almquist Burke) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 19:41:39 -0500 Subject: question on color depth default In-Reply-To: <1241911989.1567.3.camel@server.ltsp> References: <20090509160036.522CA8E033F@hormel.redhat.com> <1241911989.1567.3.camel@server.ltsp> Message-ID: <880823D3-5D17-4A0D-BCB1-E3565D37B88F@thealmquists.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Well, I think the default for the program is the choose the highest resolution and color settings the monitor/card will support. We might request having the color depth set in the lts.conf file in in K12Linux by default on install. On May 9, 2009, at 6:33 PM, William Fragakis wrote: > Okay, maybe I was being too elliptical in an effort to be polite... > > Seeing how video performance improves noticeably and most users > outside > of the graphics community really can't tell the difference between 16 > and 32 bit color, why wouldn't 16 bit be the default setting in > lts.conf? > > Is this something that is set at the ltsp dev level or the k12linux > dev > level? > > Thanks again, > William > > > > On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 12:00 -0400, > k12linux-devel-list-request at redhat.com wrote: >> On May 8, 2009, at 4:33 PM, Dan Young wrote: >> >>> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Almquist Burke >>> wrote: >>>> Where did you uncomment this? >>> >>> It's in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf >>> >> >> That's were the lts.conf file is located. What I mean, is that >> uncommenting this in the lts.conf shouldn't effect the server's Xorg >> settings, just the client's, so William F shouldn't have anything to >> worry about. >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkoGIsMACgkQxWV7OPa/g5EQ+wCdGKMsppEI3M1WidZ0Z3yrFKny YYkAniwjUpMZrCYDgLTU+71l1pb3fC0R =d3G3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From otrcomm at isp-systems.net Wed May 13 07:14:06 2009 From: otrcomm at isp-systems.net (murrah boswell) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 00:14:06 -0700 Subject: No Client Login Message-ID: <4A0A733E.7020608@isp-systems.net> Hello All, I know you guys are busy with development work, but there is virtually no traffic on the k12osn list so I wanted to ask you guys. I just setup my first liver server system on a usb stick and got the client to connect but there is no Login box to enter a username. My client is a Dell Latitude C600 with 3Com miniPC nic. Any ideas why the login screen would not produce? I can see the Sponsered by RedHat at the bottom and can go into the Preferences box, but no Login box. I just get this constant flicker where the K12Linux logo should be. I can move the mouse across where the Login box should be and the cursor changes to like it is over a text box but that is about it. Is the problem with the Dell box? Thanks, Murrah Boswell From reb at taco.com Wed May 13 11:55:14 2009 From: reb at taco.com (Phydeaux) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:55:14 -0400 Subject: No Client Login In-Reply-To: <4A0A733E.7020608@isp-systems.net> References: <4A0A733E.7020608@isp-systems.net> Message-ID: <20090513115517.D7A69641F2F@althea.taco.com> At 03:14 AM 05/13/09, murrah boswell wrote: >Hello All, > >I know you guys are busy with development work, but there is virtually no traffic on the k12osn list so I wanted to ask you guys. > >I just setup my first liver server system on a usb stick and got the client to connect but there is no Login box to enter a username. My client is a Dell Latitude C600 with 3Com miniPC nic. Any ideas why the login screen would not produce? I can see the Sponsered by RedHat at the bottom and can go into the Preferences box, but no Login box. I just get this constant flicker where the K12Linux logo should be. I can move the mouse across where the Login box should be and the cursor changes to like it is over a text box but that is about it. > >Is the problem with the Dell box? I've seen what I think are similar problems caused by a failure to detect the proper video card. In my case, half of the login box was visible on the screen. I replaced the VGA cable with a DVI cable and all was well with the world. Can you select the login box at all? If you can manage to use the keyboard to log in it should work fine from there -- even though you might not be able to see everything in the login box. reb From otrcomm at isp-systems.net Wed May 13 14:20:16 2009 From: otrcomm at isp-systems.net (murrah boswell) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:20:16 -0700 Subject: No Client Login In-Reply-To: <20090513115517.D7A69641F2F@althea.taco.com> References: <4A0A733E.7020608@isp-systems.net> <20090513115517.D7A69641F2F@althea.taco.com> Message-ID: <4A0AD720.8030705@isp-systems.net> Phydeaux wrote: > At 03:14 AM 05/13/09, murrah boswell wrote: >> Hello All, >> >> I know you guys are busy with development work, but there is virtually no traffic on the k12osn list so I wanted to ask you guys. >> >> I just setup my first liver server system on a usb stick and got the client to connect but there is no Login box to enter a username. My client is a Dell Latitude C600 with 3Com miniPC nic. Any ideas why the login screen would not produce? I can see the Sponsered by RedHat at the bottom and can go into the Preferences box, but no Login box. I just get this constant flicker where the K12Linux logo should be. I can move the mouse across where the Login box should be and the cursor changes to like it is over a text box but that is about it. >> >> Is the problem with the Dell box? > > I've seen what I think are similar problems caused by a failure to detect the proper > video card. In my case, half of the login box was visible on the screen. I replaced > the VGA cable with a DVI cable and all was well with the world. Can you select the > login box at all? If you can manage to use the keyboard to log in it should work fine > from there -- even though you might not be able to see everything in the login box. Unfortunately the client box I am testing with is a Dell C600 laptop, so I can not easily replace the video cable or video controller. I am out the door to work, but will try you suggestion later today and report back. Thanks for your reply! Regards, Murrah From dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us Wed May 13 15:04:43 2009 From: dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us (Dan Young) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:04:43 -0700 Subject: No Client Login In-Reply-To: <4A0A733E.7020608@isp-systems.net> References: <4A0A733E.7020608@isp-systems.net> Message-ID: <994441ae0905130804n30077a15oe0f0f18ce1bb2ec6@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:14 AM, murrah boswell wrote: > I just setup my first liver server system on a usb stick and got the client > to connect but there is no Login box to enter a username. My client is a > Dell Latitude C600 with 3Com miniPC nic. Any ideas why the login screen > would not produce? I can see the Sponsered by RedHat at the bottom and can > go into the Preferences box, but no Login box. I just get this constant > flicker where the K12Linux logo should be. I can move the mouse across where > the Login box should be and the cursor changes to like it is over a text box > but that is about it. > > Is the problem with the Dell box? What is the video in the client? Does the client work OK booting from a Fedora Live CD? -- Dan Young Multnomah ESD - Technology Services 503-257-1562 From otrcomm at isp-systems.net Thu May 14 05:37:59 2009 From: otrcomm at isp-systems.net (murrah boswell) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:37:59 -0700 Subject: No Client Login In-Reply-To: <994441ae0905130804n30077a15oe0f0f18ce1bb2ec6@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A0A733E.7020608@isp-systems.net> <994441ae0905130804n30077a15oe0f0f18ce1bb2ec6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0BAE37.7040002@isp-systems.net> Hello, >> I just setup my first liver server system on a usb stick and got the client >> to connect but there is no Login box to enter a username. My client is a >> Dell Latitude C600 with 3Com miniPC nic. Any ideas why the login screen >> would not produce? I can see the Sponsered by RedHat at the bottom and can >> go into the Preferences box, but no Login box. I just get this constant >> flicker where the K12Linux logo should be. I can move the mouse across where >> the Login box should be and the cursor changes to like it is over a text box >> but that is about it. >> >> Is the problem with the Dell box? > > What is the video in the client? Does the client work OK booting from > a Fedora Live CD? I am not sure what the video is in a Dell C600, but what I have done now is connect to another newer workstation with an XJ700T MAG monitor and the connection is perfect. So, I think the problem was with the Dell laptop video controller. Since this is a development mailing list, do you guys mind if I continue asking questions here? I do not see any traffic on the User's list, so I came here. One question I do have is why netfilter was not compiled into the kernel for K12linux, or is it just missing from the LiveCD? I ask because I could not find any of the netfilter kernel modules like ipt_REJECT.ko, ip_tables.ko, ip_conntrack.ko, iptable_filter.ko, ipt_state, etc. Also, how much trouble is it to take an existing server running RHEL 5 and build the K12linux system into it? Thanks, Murrah Boswell > > -- > Dan Young > Multnomah ESD - Technology Services > 503-257-1562 > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list > From william at fragakis.com Thu May 14 18:58:46 2009 From: william at fragakis.com (William Fragakis) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:58:46 -0400 Subject: No Client Login In-Reply-To: <20090514160036.AD6BF61A974@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20090514160036.AD6BF61A974@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1242327526.4251.2.camel@server.ltsp> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 12:00 -0400, k12linux-devel-list-request at redhat.com wrote: > Send K12Linux-devel-list mailing list submissions to > k12linux-devel-list at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > k12linux-devel-list-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > k12linux-devel-list-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of K12Linux-devel-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: No Client Login (murrah boswell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:37:59 -0700 > From: murrah boswell > Subject: Re: No Client Login > To: Development discussion of K12Linux > > Message-ID: <4A0BAE37.7040002 at isp-systems.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello, > > > >> I just setup my first liver server system on a usb stick and got the client > >> to connect but there is no Login box to enter a username. My client is a [snippage] https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/RHEL5Server Not that much trouble, especially if you start with a running k12ltsp5 el server. You'll have to add some outside packages though to use pulseaudio (latest versions of Flash). Regards, William > > Also, how much trouble is it to take an existing server running RHEL 5 and build the K12linux system into it? > > Thanks, > Murrah Boswell > > > > > -- > > Dan Young > > Multnomah ESD - Technology Services > > 503-257-1562 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list > > End of K12Linux-devel-list Digest, Vol 15, Issue 5 > ************************************************** From william at fragakis.com Thu May 14 19:04:29 2009 From: william at fragakis.com (William Fragakis) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:04:29 -0400 Subject: No Client Login In-Reply-To: <20090514160036.AD6BF61A974@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20090514160036.AD6BF61A974@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1242327869.4251.5.camel@server.ltsp> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 12:00 -0400, k12linux-devel-list-request at redhat.com wrote: > Send K12Linux-devel-list mailing list submissions to > k12linux-devel-list at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > k12linux-devel-list-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > k12linux-devel-list-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of K12Linux-devel-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: No Client Login (murrah boswell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:37:59 -0700 > From: murrah boswell > Subject: Re: No Client Login > To: Development discussion of K12Linux > > Message-ID: <4A0BAE37.7040002 at isp-systems.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello, > I take that back. It may be easier to start with a fresh install of RHEL (or the other similar brand). The advantage of the K12LTSP version is the inclusion of the educational packages, etc. If you aren't that familiar with the inner workings of LTSP it may get confusing since things were moved around in the transition from K12LTSP to K12Linus. Apologies, William > Also, how much trouble is it to take an existing server running RHEL 5 and build the K12linux system into it? > > Thanks, > Murrah Boswell > > > > > -- > > Dan Young > > Multnomah ESD - Technology Services > > 503-257-1562 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > K12Linux-devel-list mailing list > K12Linux-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list > > End of K12Linux-devel-list Digest, Vol 15, Issue 5 > ************************************************** From otrcomm at isp-systems.net Sun May 24 02:43:39 2009 From: otrcomm at isp-systems.net (murrah boswell) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 19:43:39 -0700 Subject: unsquashfs problem Message-ID: <4A18B45B.3040704@isp-systems.net> Hello All, I was trying to see if OpenOffice was included in the distribution since all I get when I boot into k12linx live cd is AbiWord. So, I have k12linux-f10-i386-stable4.iso mounted in a loopback with mount k12linux-f10-i386-stable4.iso /mnt/dvd -t iso9660 -o loop and when I try to unsquashfs the squashfs.img provided with the Live CD distribution, unsquashfs -l /mnt/dvd/LiveOS/squashfs.img I get: FATAL ERROR aborting: failed to read fragment table Anybody else experience this? What can be done about this? Regards, Murrah Boswell From otrcomm at isp-systems.net Mon May 25 00:12:37 2009 From: otrcomm at isp-systems.net (murrah boswell) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 17:12:37 -0700 Subject: ext3fs.img question Message-ID: <4A19E275.303@isp-systems.net> Hello All, Could someone tell me how the ext3fs.img was created in livecd-live-ltsp-server-beta11-200904301548.iso? I have tried to fdisk it to look at the partitions, but come up with errors. Also, when I burn the iso image to a usb stick with Fedora LiveUSB Creator, I never get past loading the initrd0 image. Is there a better iso distro for beta11 and if so, where can I get it? Thanks, Murrah Boswell