From balmquist at mindfirestudios.com Fri Sep 1 11:46:58 2006 From: balmquist at mindfirestudios.com (Burke Almquist) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 06:46:58 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Fwd: [Ltsp-discuss] problem with kingston datatraveler usb2 flash drive and ltspfs References: Message-ID: <37023E85-582B-424E-AB00-8C7CBABCA85B@mindfirestudios.com> > From: Burke Almquist > Date: September 1, 2006 6:46:30 AM CDT > To: "David Heinzerling" > Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] problem with kingston datatraveler usb2 > flash drive and ltspfs > > Is there still a problem with unpartitioned pen drives?? > > On Aug 31, 2006, at 8:00 PM, David Heinzerling wrote: > >> I have successfully used many usb flashdrives with our SUSE 10.1 LTSP >> 4.2-update 4 system. I recently acquired some Kingston >> DataTraveler USB 2.0 >> 128mb flash drives for our school. Much to my chagrin, they don?t >> work on >> the LTSP terminals (which are Dell GX1s ? no USB 2.0 support, but >> the flash >> drive is 1.1 compatible). They work on the server console (SUSE >> 10.1) and >> on a FC4 box I have, but when I plug them into a terminal and >> switch over to >> the shell view, I get the following message repeating: >> >> usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address X >> >> where ?X? is a number that keeps changing as it attempts each >> address 1-200 >> (or something close to that). The packaging claims to support >> Linux in >> kernel 2.4 and above, and we are booting into the LTSP kernel 2.6.17. >> >> Any ideas on how to fix this? I?d rather not have to return these. >> >> Many thanks, >> David >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss >> For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net > From timothy.hart at gmail.com Fri Sep 1 12:08:18 2006 From: timothy.hart at gmail.com (Timothy Hart) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:08:18 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] User screens flashing windows In-Reply-To: <20060831091230.d7061e97b78b017ac15395d64f2ce134.b7a8e77b88.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20060831091230.d7061e97b78b017ac15395d64f2ce134.b7a8e77b88.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <464c38cc0609010508x37b386c6rf2a89d88a28a9a32@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for replying. I can't see any setting to change for maximum remote sessions? This is a weird problem and I trying to figure out why no one else is having it. My teachers came and about half of them won't work. The weird thing is that some computers do it and other don't. This is one of those times that I am screaming for identical hardware. Ahhhh. Is there an amount of logins the K12LTSP5 is restricted to? Also how much manual configuration of lts.conf are people doing for different things? I ask only because I would like an idea of how many people are running "stock" systems. Thanks for the time. Tim On 8/31/06, rmcdaniel at indata.us wrote: > > This was posted a while back by Steve: > > > Look in your login screen setup, for the XDMCP tab, and then the setting > for maximum remote sessions. (I'm on Ubuntu thin client, but I think > it's the same for FC). Once you change that, you need to restart GDM, > and how you do that will depend on what distribution you are running... > I'll let someone more technical give you correct steps for that! > > Steve > > -- > Steve Hargadon > steve at hargadon.com > 916-899-1400 direct > > > > Ron > > > Ronald R. McDaniel > Conecuh County Schools > (251) 578-1752 x30 > (251) 363-3201 cell > 1*4238*104 SouthernLinc > rmcdaniel at indata.us > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: [K12OSN] User screens flashing windows > > From: "Timothy Hart" > > Date: Thu, August 31, 2006 7:00 am > > To: "Support list for open source software in schools." > > > > > > Here is another start to the school year issue for you guys. > > We have 3 K12LTSP servers, all running v.5. One of them, when you log on > to it through a terminal starts blinking windows and becomes unusable. This > is for "most" users and "most" clients. Some computers seem to just work > while others don't. If it was more concrete I would just reinstall K12 on > the server. Is anyone else having this issue? Should I just reinstall? > > > > Tim > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mblinn at peopleplaces.org Fri Sep 1 12:23:54 2006 From: mblinn at peopleplaces.org (Michael Blinn) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 08:23:54 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN]OT- proper OS for CPU In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44F8265A.5000901@peopleplaces.org> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rmcdaniel at indata.us Fri Sep 1 14:19:28 2006 From: rmcdaniel at indata.us (rmcdaniel at indata.us) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 07:19:28 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] User screens flashing windows Message-ID: <20060901071928.d7061e97b78b017ac15395d64f2ce134.f2ee88279c.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Tim, I don't have a fresh load of K12LTSP but, I had this same problem with the last loads. I think that the default amount was around 15. What I did to trouble shoot this was to turn off one of the ones that was working and see if one of the ones that isn't working begins to work. That will show you that it is due the number of clients setting. Most everything that I know of can be adjusted/configured through a GUI interface. I typically use Webmin to manage/configure my servers. Ron Ronald R. McDaniel Conecuh County Schools (251) 578-1752 x30 (251) 363-3201 cell 1*4238*104 SouthernLinc rmcdaniel at indata.us > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [K12OSN] User screens flashing windows > From: "Timothy Hart" > Date: Fri, September 01, 2006 7:08 am > To: "Support list for open source software in schools." > > > Thanks for replying. I can't see any setting to change for maximum remote sessions? This is a weird problem and I trying to figure out why no one else is having it. My teachers came and about half of them won't work. The weird thing is that some computers do it and other don't. This is one of those times that I am screaming for identical hardware. Ahhhh. > > Is there an amount of logins the K12LTSP5 is restricted to? > > Also how much manual configuration of lts.conf are people doing for different things? I ask only because I would like an idea of how many people are running "stock" systems. > > Thanks for the time. > > Tim > > > On 8/31/06, rmcdaniel at indata.us < rmcdaniel at indata.us> wrote:This was posted a while back by Steve: > > > Look in your login screen setup, for the XDMCP tab, and then the setting > for maximum remote sessions. (I'm on Ubuntu thin client, but I think > it's the same for FC). Once you change that, you need to restart GDM, > and how you do that will depend on what distribution you are running... > I'll let someone more technical give you correct steps for that! > > Steve > > -- > Steve Hargadon > steve at hargadon.com > 916-899-1400 direct > > > > Ron > > > Ronald R. McDaniel > Conecuh County Schools > (251) 578-1752 x30 > (251) 363-3201 cell > 1*4238*104 SouthernLinc > rmcdaniel at indata.us > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: [K12OSN] User screens flashing windows > > From: "Timothy Hart" > > Date: Thu, August 31, 2006 7:00 am > > To: "Support list for open source software in schools." > > > > > > Here is another start to the school year issue for you guys. > > We have 3 K12LTSP servers, all running v.5. One of them, when you log on to it through a terminal starts blinking windows and becomes unusable. This is for "most" users and "most" clients. Some computers seem to just work while others don't. If it was more concrete I would just reinstall K12 on the server. Is anyone else having this issue? Should I just reinstall? > > > > Tim > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From dhuckaby at paasda.org Fri Sep 1 14:28:03 2006 From: dhuckaby at paasda.org (Huck) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 07:28:03 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] User screens flashing windows In-Reply-To: <464c38cc0609010508x37b386c6rf2a89d88a28a9a32@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060831091230.d7061e97b78b017ac15395d64f2ce134.b7a8e77b88.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <464c38cc0609010508x37b386c6rf2a89d88a28a9a32@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44F84373.50201@paasda.org> heavy lts.conf editing here... 'auto' doesn't always choose the best video driver and 'vesa' is slow. also for printers attached to clients... Timothy Hart wrote: > Thanks for replying. I can't see any setting to change for maximum > remote sessions? This is a weird problem and I trying to figure out why > no one else is having it. My teachers came and about half of them won't > work. The weird thing is that some computers do it and other don't. This > is one of those times that I am screaming for identical hardware. Ahhhh. > > Is there an amount of logins the K12LTSP5 is restricted to? > > Also how much manual configuration of lts.conf are people doing for > different things? I ask only because I would like an idea of how many > people are running "stock" systems. > > Thanks for the time. > > Tim > > On 8/31/06, *rmcdaniel at indata.us * < > rmcdaniel at indata.us > wrote: > > This was posted a while back by Steve: > > > Look in your login screen setup, for the XDMCP tab, and then the > setting > for maximum remote sessions. (I'm on Ubuntu thin client, but I think > it's the same for FC). Once you change that, you need to restart GDM, > and how you do that will depend on what distribution you are running... > I'll let someone more technical give you correct steps for that! > > Steve > > -- > Steve Hargadon > steve at hargadon.com > 916-899-1400 direct > > > > Ron > > > Ronald R. McDaniel > Conecuh County Schools > (251) 578-1752 x30 > (251) 363-3201 cell > 1*4238*104 SouthernLinc > rmcdaniel at indata.us > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: [K12OSN] User screens flashing windows > > From: "Timothy Hart" > > > Date: Thu, August 31, 2006 7:00 am > > To: "Support list for open source software in schools." > > > > > > > Here is another start to the school year issue for you guys. > > We have 3 K12LTSP servers, all running v.5. One of them, when you > log on to it through a terminal starts blinking windows and becomes > unusable. This is for "most" users and "most" clients. Some > computers seem to just work while others don't. If it was more > concrete I would just reinstall K12 on the server. Is anyone else > having this issue? Should I just reinstall? > > > > Tim > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From sbarar at gmail.com Fri Sep 1 15:33:50 2006 From: sbarar at gmail.com (Sudev Barar) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 21:03:50 +0530 Subject: [K12OSN] User screens flashing windows In-Reply-To: <464c38cc0609010508x37b386c6rf2a89d88a28a9a32@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060831091230.d7061e97b78b017ac15395d64f2ce134.b7a8e77b88.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <464c38cc0609010508x37b386c6rf2a89d88a28a9a32@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <774593a20609010833p15817df7u6263928c6fdd269d@mail.gmail.com> On 01/09/06, Timothy Hart wrote: > Thanks for replying. I can't see any setting to change for maximum remote > sessions? This is a weird problem and I trying to figure out why no one else As root / sudo edit /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf and look at the section for XDMCP You will find setting for maximum number of sessions. Change as appropriate. -- Regards, Sudev Barar PS I know this is OT and frowned upon but could posters edit out non-essentials so that thread follow up is easier. And inline or bottom post? Apologies in advance. From eharrison at mail.mesd.k12.or.us Fri Sep 1 16:04:47 2006 From: eharrison at mail.mesd.k12.or.us (Eric Harrison) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 09:04:47 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 4.2.4EL planning... how stable? Message-ID: <44F85A1F.1040904@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> CentOS 4.4 has been released & I've started work on K12LTSP 4.2.4EL. The question is how stable should the stable branch be? There are a half-dozen end-user applications that can be updated. These would be essentially back-ports from FC5 (K12LTSP 5.0). Does anyone using K12LTSP 4.2EL have concerns about bumping up to the latest-and-greatest of any of these packages? Package Name K12LTSP 4.2.3EL version Latest version ------------ ------------------------ --------------------------- blender 2.37-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 2.42-6.fc5 celestia 1.3.2-3.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 1.4.1-5.fc5 childsplay 0.81.1-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.83-1.fc5 DansGuardian 2.7.6-7.k12ltsp.0.4.0 2.9.7.1-0.k12ltsp.0.5.0.0 gcompris 7.1.1-4.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 7.4-13.fc5 inkscape 0.43-1.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.44-4.fc5 tuxmath 0.2001.9.7-0103 0.2005.10.11-0 The real big question is whether or not to switch from LTSP 4.1 to LTSP 4.2? This is not an insignificant change, considering that the kernel for the terminals is changed from a 2.4 kernel to a 2.6 kernel. Considering that a "stable" branch should favor stability over shiny new features, I am currently leaning towards leaving K12LTSP 4.2.4EL with the older LTSP 4.1 packages. This is largely a question with upgrades, so I'd like to hear from those of you currently running K12LTSP 4.2.3EL. Are the new features in LTSP 4.2 (largely improved USB/CD/floppy support) worth the risk of potentially breaking some of your terminals? -Eric From eharrison at mail.mesd.k12.or.us Fri Sep 1 16:10:48 2006 From: eharrison at mail.mesd.k12.or.us (Eric Harrison) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 09:10:48 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] New HP clients kernel panic... In-Reply-To: <09635931-C360-477C-BCFF-A65F15716432@inlandlakes.org> References: <49142.10.10.5.20.1156269114.squirrel@www.inlandlakes.org> <1156276417.13795.434.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> <739E11C0-4803-43FA-A832-D80942E07C1E@inlandlakes.org> <09635931-C360-477C-BCFF-A65F15716432@inlandlakes.org> Message-ID: <44F85B88.5000606@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> Shawn Powers wrote: > Could someone point me to where I would download a different kernel for > these thin clients (to try?), along with how to make the clients use the > older kernel? If I can't get them to boot, I'm going to have to install > an old version of K12LTSP, and that would be a bummer. > > Sorry to ask for help at this terribly busy time of year, > -Shawn Here you go: ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/testing/old-kernel/ltsp_i386-boot-2.6.16-2.k12ltsp.5.0.0.i386.rpm -Eric > > On Aug 22, 2006, at 9:22 PM, Shawn Powers wrote: > >> On Aug 22, 2006, at 3:53 PM, James P. Kinney III wrote: >>> Check the server logs for this error. Since DHCPD on the server _was_ >>> working enough to send out the initial IP address and then the PXE boot >>> kernel and then the main kernel. >> >> I don't see the error anywhere in the logs (I'm not sure where to look >> other than /var/log/messages). The only non-standard thing on the >> server install is that I switched eth0 and eth1 around from what the >> installer did by default. (ie, I made eth0 public and eth1 private). >> I didn't find anything else to change in the config files regarding >> eth0 or eth1, and other clients boot fine. Perhaps there is something >> I should change? >> >> (On older versions I would have to tell dhcpd what interface to run >> on, but it's smart in this release and only runs on the interface with >> IP numbers matching the dhcpd config) >> >> I'm really scratching my head with this one... It booted OK from a >> 4.0.2 server (although the video card was detected, but that's a minor >> issue). I might try installing a server from scratch, and seeing if >> it boots up tomorrow on the new server. Reinstalling on the server in >> question would really be a pain in the butt though... >> >> -Shawn >> >> -- >> Shawn Powers >> Technology Director >> Inland Lakes Schools >> PHN: 231-238-6868 x9174 >> FAX: 509-356-7024 >> spowers at inlandlakes.org >> Homepage: http://techcorner.inlandlakes.org >> Personal Website: http://www.brainofshawn.com >> >> ---- >> The views, opinions, visions, thoughts, comments, >> sarcastic whims, forecasts, poetic outbursts, >> cynical wit, future plans, implementation ideas, >> OS preference, curricular insight, ice cream preference, >> or anything else I might infer are not the >> views of Inland Lakes Schools. Pretty much everything >> I say, do, think, or imply with punctuation should be >> considered my own delusions, and ignored completely. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> --- >> This message checked for SPAM and Viruses by MailFoundry. >> If this is SPAM, please forward it to spam at mailfoundry.com > > -- > Shawn Powers > Technology Director > Inland Lakes Schools > PHN: 231-238-6868 x9174 > FAX: 509-356-7024 > spowers at inlandlakes.org > Homepage: http://techcorner.inlandlakes.org > Personal Website: http://www.brainofshawn.com > > ---- > The views, opinions, visions, thoughts, comments, > sarcastic whims, forecasts, poetic outbursts, > cynical wit, future plans, implementation ideas, > OS preference, curricular insight, ice cream preference, > or anything else I might infer are not the > views of Inland Lakes Schools. Pretty much everything > I say, do, think, or imply with punctuation should be > considered my own delusions, and ignored completely. > > > From eharrison at mail.mesd.k12.or.us Fri Sep 1 16:24:48 2006 From: eharrison at mail.mesd.k12.or.us (Eric Harrison) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 09:24:48 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 4.2.4EL planning... how stable? In-Reply-To: <44F85A1F.1040904@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> References: <44F85A1F.1040904@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> Message-ID: <44F85ED0.80601@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> I should also mention that I'm going to add fl_teachertool to 4.2.4EL... -Eric Eric Harrison wrote: > CentOS 4.4 has been released & I've started work on K12LTSP 4.2.4EL. > > The question is how stable should the stable branch be? > > > There are a half-dozen end-user applications that can be updated. These > would be essentially back-ports from FC5 (K12LTSP 5.0). Does anyone > using K12LTSP 4.2EL have concerns about bumping up to the > latest-and-greatest of any of these packages? > > > Package Name K12LTSP 4.2.3EL version Latest version > ------------ ------------------------ --------------------------- > blender 2.37-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 2.42-6.fc5 > celestia 1.3.2-3.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 1.4.1-5.fc5 > childsplay 0.81.1-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.83-1.fc5 > DansGuardian 2.7.6-7.k12ltsp.0.4.0 2.9.7.1-0.k12ltsp.0.5.0.0 > gcompris 7.1.1-4.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 7.4-13.fc5 > inkscape 0.43-1.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.44-4.fc5 > tuxmath 0.2001.9.7-0103 0.2005.10.11-0 > > > > The real big question is whether or not to switch from LTSP 4.1 to LTSP > 4.2? This is not an insignificant change, considering that the kernel > for the terminals is changed from a 2.4 kernel to a 2.6 kernel. > > Considering that a "stable" branch should favor stability over shiny new > features, I am currently leaning towards leaving K12LTSP 4.2.4EL with > the older LTSP 4.1 packages. This is largely a question with upgrades, > so I'd like to hear from those of you currently running K12LTSP 4.2.3EL. > Are the new features in LTSP 4.2 (largely improved USB/CD/floppy > support) worth the risk of potentially breaking some of your terminals? > > > -Eric > > From johnny at msad41.us Fri Sep 1 16:36:47 2006 From: johnny at msad41.us (John T. Leonard) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 12:36:47 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 4.2.4EL planning... how stable? In-Reply-To: <44F85A1F.1040904@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> References: <44F85A1F.1040904@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> Message-ID: <1157128607.44f8619f515ba@www.msad41.us> Eric, I have 4 machines running 4.2.1EL and would like to give it a shot on the two Media Center machines...the usb support is what I would like...and thank you again for all you do.....J Quoting Eric Harrison : > > CentOS 4.4 has been released & I've started work on K12LTSP 4.2.4EL. > > The question is how stable should the stable branch be? > > > There are a half-dozen end-user applications that can be updated. These > would be essentially back-ports from FC5 (K12LTSP 5.0). Does anyone > using K12LTSP 4.2EL have concerns about bumping up to the > latest-and-greatest of any of these packages? > > > Package Name K12LTSP 4.2.3EL version Latest version > ------------ ------------------------ --------------------------- > blender 2.37-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 2.42-6.fc5 > celestia 1.3.2-3.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 1.4.1-5.fc5 > childsplay 0.81.1-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.83-1.fc5 > DansGuardian 2.7.6-7.k12ltsp.0.4.0 2.9.7.1-0.k12ltsp.0.5.0.0 > gcompris 7.1.1-4.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 7.4-13.fc5 > inkscape 0.43-1.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.44-4.fc5 > tuxmath 0.2001.9.7-0103 0.2005.10.11-0 > > > > The real big question is whether or not to switch from LTSP 4.1 to LTSP > 4.2? This is not an insignificant change, considering that the kernel > for the terminals is changed from a 2.4 kernel to a 2.6 kernel. > > Considering that a "stable" branch should favor stability over shiny new > features, I am currently leaning towards leaving K12LTSP 4.2.4EL with > the older LTSP 4.1 packages. This is largely a question with upgrades, > so I'd like to hear from those of you currently running K12LTSP 4.2.3EL. > Are the new features in LTSP 4.2 (largely improved USB/CD/floppy > support) worth the risk of potentially breaking some of your terminals? > > > -Eric > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > John T. Leonard Technology Coordinator MSAD No. 41 Penquis Valley HS/MS 48 Penquis Drive Milo, Maine 04463 Office:207-943-5332 Fax:207-943-7348 Voice:207-943-0902 Exts.181,189 From eharrison at mail.mesd.k12.or.us Fri Sep 1 16:41:25 2006 From: eharrison at mail.mesd.k12.or.us (Eric Harrison) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 09:41:25 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] New HP clients kernel panic... In-Reply-To: <44F85B88.5000606@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> References: <49142.10.10.5.20.1156269114.squirrel@www.inlandlakes.org> <1156276417.13795.434.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> <739E11C0-4803-43FA-A832-D80942E07C1E@inlandlakes.org> <09635931-C360-477C-BCFF-A65F15716432@inlandlakes.org> <44F85B88.5000606@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> Message-ID: <44F862B5.3050508@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> Before you downgrade, can you test out a new upgrade? ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/testing/RPMS/ltsp_i386-boot-2.6.17.8-1.k12ltsp.5.0.0.noarch.rpm -Eric Eric Harrison wrote: > Shawn Powers wrote: >> Could someone point me to where I would download a different kernel for >> these thin clients (to try?), along with how to make the clients use the >> older kernel? If I can't get them to boot, I'm going to have to install >> an old version of K12LTSP, and that would be a bummer. >> >> Sorry to ask for help at this terribly busy time of year, >> -Shawn > > > Here you go: > > ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/testing/old-kernel/ltsp_i386-boot-2.6.16-2.k12ltsp.5.0.0.i386.rpm > > > -Eric > >> On Aug 22, 2006, at 9:22 PM, Shawn Powers wrote: >> >>> On Aug 22, 2006, at 3:53 PM, James P. Kinney III wrote: >>>> Check the server logs for this error. Since DHCPD on the server _was_ >>>> working enough to send out the initial IP address and then the PXE boot >>>> kernel and then the main kernel. >>> I don't see the error anywhere in the logs (I'm not sure where to look >>> other than /var/log/messages). The only non-standard thing on the >>> server install is that I switched eth0 and eth1 around from what the >>> installer did by default. (ie, I made eth0 public and eth1 private). >>> I didn't find anything else to change in the config files regarding >>> eth0 or eth1, and other clients boot fine. Perhaps there is something >>> I should change? >>> >>> (On older versions I would have to tell dhcpd what interface to run >>> on, but it's smart in this release and only runs on the interface with >>> IP numbers matching the dhcpd config) >>> >>> I'm really scratching my head with this one... It booted OK from a >>> 4.0.2 server (although the video card was detected, but that's a minor >>> issue). I might try installing a server from scratch, and seeing if >>> it boots up tomorrow on the new server. Reinstalling on the server in >>> question would really be a pain in the butt though... >>> >>> -Shawn >>> >>> -- >>> Shawn Powers >>> Technology Director >>> Inland Lakes Schools >>> PHN: 231-238-6868 x9174 >>> FAX: 509-356-7024 >>> spowers at inlandlakes.org >>> Homepage: http://techcorner.inlandlakes.org >>> Personal Website: http://www.brainofshawn.com >>> >>> ---- >>> The views, opinions, visions, thoughts, comments, >>> sarcastic whims, forecasts, poetic outbursts, >>> cynical wit, future plans, implementation ideas, >>> OS preference, curricular insight, ice cream preference, >>> or anything else I might infer are not the >>> views of Inland Lakes Schools. Pretty much everything >>> I say, do, think, or imply with punctuation should be >>> considered my own delusions, and ignored completely. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> K12OSN mailing list >>> K12OSN at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >>> For more info see >>> --- >>> This message checked for SPAM and Viruses by MailFoundry. >>> If this is SPAM, please forward it to spam at mailfoundry.com >> -- >> Shawn Powers >> Technology Director >> Inland Lakes Schools >> PHN: 231-238-6868 x9174 >> FAX: 509-356-7024 >> spowers at inlandlakes.org >> Homepage: http://techcorner.inlandlakes.org >> Personal Website: http://www.brainofshawn.com >> >> ---- >> The views, opinions, visions, thoughts, comments, >> sarcastic whims, forecasts, poetic outbursts, >> cynical wit, future plans, implementation ideas, >> OS preference, curricular insight, ice cream preference, >> or anything else I might infer are not the >> views of Inland Lakes Schools. Pretty much everything >> I say, do, think, or imply with punctuation should be >> considered my own delusions, and ignored completely. >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From petre at maltzen.net Fri Sep 1 16:48:26 2006 From: petre at maltzen.net (Petre Scheie) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:48:26 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 4.2.4EL planning... how stable? In-Reply-To: <44F85ED0.80601@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> References: <44F85A1F.1040904@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> <44F85ED0.80601@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> Message-ID: <44F8645A.3050202@maltzen.net> I'm not running K12LTSP 4.2EL, but I vote to leave it at LTSP 4.1. Stability is its primary feature, and moving to LTSP 4.2, nifty as it might be, will inevitably introduce some problems for some people, and I see that as counter to its role. If you want/need LDA, get version 5. Eventually, LDA can/will be added to the CentOS base, but considering that two updates to LTSP 4.2 were added in just August, I would argue that it's too soon to be bolting it onto the 'stable' release for K12LTSP. And as cool as LDA is, adding fl_teachertool, which is also really cool, will prove more useful to most teachers; the kids might argue otherwise, but that just reinforces my opinion. ;-) My two cents. Petre Eric Harrison wrote: > I should also mention that I'm going to add fl_teachertool to 4.2.4EL... > > -Eric > > Eric Harrison wrote: >> CentOS 4.4 has been released & I've started work on K12LTSP 4.2.4EL. >> >> The question is how stable should the stable branch be? >> >> >> There are a half-dozen end-user applications that can be updated. These >> would be essentially back-ports from FC5 (K12LTSP 5.0). Does anyone >> using K12LTSP 4.2EL have concerns about bumping up to the >> latest-and-greatest of any of these packages? >> >> >> Package Name K12LTSP 4.2.3EL version Latest version >> ------------ ------------------------ --------------------------- >> blender 2.37-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 2.42-6.fc5 >> celestia 1.3.2-3.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 1.4.1-5.fc5 >> childsplay 0.81.1-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.83-1.fc5 >> DansGuardian 2.7.6-7.k12ltsp.0.4.0 2.9.7.1-0.k12ltsp.0.5.0.0 >> gcompris 7.1.1-4.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 7.4-13.fc5 >> inkscape 0.43-1.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.44-4.fc5 >> tuxmath 0.2001.9.7-0103 0.2005.10.11-0 >> >> >> >> The real big question is whether or not to switch from LTSP 4.1 to LTSP >> 4.2? This is not an insignificant change, considering that the kernel >> for the terminals is changed from a 2.4 kernel to a 2.6 kernel. >> >> Considering that a "stable" branch should favor stability over shiny new >> features, I am currently leaning towards leaving K12LTSP 4.2.4EL with >> the older LTSP 4.1 packages. This is largely a question with upgrades, >> so I'd like to hear from those of you currently running K12LTSP 4.2.3EL. >> Are the new features in LTSP 4.2 (largely improved USB/CD/floppy >> support) worth the risk of potentially breaking some of your terminals? >> >> >> -Eric >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From garnold at unrealsolutions.com Fri Sep 1 17:28:14 2006 From: garnold at unrealsolutions.com (Glenn Arnold) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 13:28:14 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Two labs Two Printers setting the default printer on one ltsp server. Message-ID: I think I found the answer, but I want to verify this. Two set the default printer for one lab you go into the lts.conf and put printername=labprinter1 for the terminal you want to set printer 1 as default printer. Then do the same thing in the lts.conf for all the lab computers in one lab. 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URL: From ltsp at symbio-technologies.com Fri Sep 1 18:01:53 2006 From: ltsp at symbio-technologies.com (Gideon Romm) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:01:53 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Lexmark E323 network printer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1157133713.14770.49.camel@localhost> Glenn- We have a client who uses the Lexmark E323 on Linux. Lexmark printers are a bit annoying (in both Linux and Windows) in that they circumvent the native printing system by creating a "dummy device" and then funneling the print spool through their own software. In other words, if you want the printer to work, you need to install their software and use their Lexmark Printer Interface (or whatever its called) to create the queues and manage the printers. HTH, -Gadi On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 13:34 -0400, Glenn Arnold wrote: > Is anybody using a Lexmark E323 off their ltsp server? I also set a > queue up for a HP laserjet 4000 and it prints with no problems. I am > currently running K12LTSP 5.0 64bit and there is not native drivers. > I tried to use Optra driver with Post Script, but it does not print. > > > > Thanks > > -Glenn > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see -- -------------------------------------------------------- Gideon Romm | Proud LTSP Developer ltsp at symbio-technologies.com Support LTSP! Buy your hardware at: www.DisklessWorkstations.com www.DisklessThinClients.com (use coupon code: LTSP5P for 5% off thin clients from DisklessThinClients.com) From robark at gmail.com Fri Sep 1 18:03:15 2006 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:03:15 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 4.2.4EL planning... how stable? In-Reply-To: <44F8645A.3050202@maltzen.net> References: <44F85A1F.1040904@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> <44F85ED0.80601@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> <44F8645A.3050202@maltzen.net> Message-ID: On 9/1/06, Petre Scheie wrote: > > I'm not running K12LTSP 4.2EL, but I vote to leave it at LTSP 4.1. Stability > is its > primary feature, and moving to LTSP 4.2, nifty as it might be, will > inevitably introduce > some problems for some people, and I see that as counter to its role. If > you want/need > LDA, get version 5. Eventually, LDA can/will be added to the CentOS base, > but > considering that two updates to LTSP 4.2 were added in just August, I > would argue that > it's too soon to be bolting it onto the 'stable' release for K12LTSP. > > And as cool as LDA is, adding fl_teachertool, which is also really cool, > will prove more > useful to most teachers; the kids might argue otherwise, but that just > reinforces my > opinion. ;-) I agree completely Petre. Upgrading these packages blender 2.37-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 2.42-6.fc5 celestia 1.3.2-3.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 1.4.1-5.fc5 childsplay 0.81.1-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.83-1.fc5 DansGuardian 2.7.6-7.k12ltsp.0.4.0 2.9.7.1-0.k12ltsp.0.5.0.0 gcompris 7.1.1-4.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 7.4-13.fc5 inkscape 0.43-1.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.44-4.fc5 tuxmath 0.2001.9.7-0103 0.2005.10.11-0 is fine since even if they do pose a problem they can easily be removed and replaced with the older rpm manually from 4.2.2. I am probably biased towards Fl_TeacherTool but I think having the latest version with the added vnc X extension would be fine. The only thing which it would change in the LBE would be the added vnc module for the Control/Monitor feature. That module does not get loaded unless people edit lts.conf. People who are using Control/Monitor now in EL are using a hackish/experimental method anyway. So I think that's a good idea. In any case it can easily be disabled in lts.conf. However, as enticing as LDA is I have read some posts with people having issues with the new LTSP, like dropping older XFree86 3.3.6 and new power management issues with 2.6 kernel. I think LDA and ltspfs are fantastic but K12LTSP 5.0 is the first distro to include it and 5.0 has not been out for very long. If people REALLY want LDA they have K12LTSP 5.0 as an option. My thought is that RHEL 5 is supposed to come out around the end of the year. Centos will probably be out by Jan/Feb 07 so a beta K12LTSP 5EL could be available (providing Eric does his magic) by about March/April 07. IMO this should be the stable version which should incorporate LTSP 4.2 and LDA. My two cents. > > Petre > > Eric Harrison wrote: > > I should also mention that I'm going to add fl_teachertool to 4.2.4EL... > > > > -Eric > > > > Eric Harrison wrote: > >> CentOS 4.4 has been released & I've started work on K12LTSP 4.2.4EL. > >> > >> The question is how stable should the stable branch be? > >> > >> > >> There are a half-dozen end-user applications that can be updated. These > >> would be essentially back-ports from FC5 (K12LTSP 5.0). Does anyone > >> using K12LTSP 4.2EL have concerns about bumping up to the > >> latest-and-greatest of any of these packages? > >> > >> > >> Package Name K12LTSP 4.2.3EL version Latest version > >> ------------ ------------------------ --------------------------- > >> blender 2.37-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 2.42-6.fc5 > >> celestia 1.3.2-3.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 1.4.1-5.fc5 > >> childsplay 0.81.1-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.83-1.fc5 > >> DansGuardian 2.7.6-7.k12ltsp.0.4.0 2.9.7.1-0.k12ltsp.0.5.0.0 > >> gcompris 7.1.1-4.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 7.4-13.fc5 > >> inkscape 0.43-1.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.44-4.fc5 > >> tuxmath 0.2001.9.7-0103 0.2005.10.11-0 > >> > >> > >> > >> The real big question is whether or not to switch from LTSP 4.1 to LTSP > >> 4.2? This is not an insignificant change, considering that the kernel > >> for the terminals is changed from a 2.4 kernel to a 2.6 kernel. > >> > >> Considering that a "stable" branch should favor stability over shiny > new > >> features, I am currently leaning towards leaving K12LTSP 4.2.4EL with > >> the older LTSP 4.1 packages. This is largely a question with upgrades, > >> so I'd like to hear from those of you currently running K12LTSP 4.2.3EL > . > >> Are the new features in LTSP 4.2 (largely improved USB/CD/floppy > >> support) worth the risk of potentially breaking some of your terminals? > >> > >> > >> -Eric > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada Fl_TeacherTool http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/ C++ GUI tutorial http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When trying to > monitor/control I get an "Opening password file failed". All teachers are > in a "teachers" group and I did the visudo modification as discussed on your > website. Also I did copy /root/.vnc to the ltsp tree though not sure if > this was necessary or desirable. I also used " %teachers > Before copying you must set a password for vnc #/usr/bin/vncpasswd after setting the password then copy the password file into the ltsp-tree with this line #cp -R -p /root/.vnc /opt/ltsp/i386/root/ Don't forget to uncomment (remove the #) from the line x4_module_02=vnc in lts.conf and then reboot your clients. ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/fl_teachertool" instead of "%teachers > ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/local/sbin/Fl_TeacherTool" assuming that it is outdated. > Yes, I should change that on my homepage. The /usr/local/sbin dir is used if you install it from the tarball. Yum puts it in /usr/sbin and there are no capitals. Thanks for pointing that out. Any suggestions? > > Dan Visentin > M. M. Robinson H.S. > "As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing." > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada Fl_TeacherTool http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/ C++ GUI tutorial http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tkathan at charter.net Fri Sep 1 21:27:09 2006 From: tkathan at charter.net (Jim Kathan) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 14:27:09 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] K12 Gnome hanging during startup Message-ID: <774944384.1157146029635.JavaMail.root@fepweb06> As root, after I login to Gnome in K12 5, it hangs on "Metacity Window Manager" and takes about 5 minutes to bring the full desktop up. None of the other accounts on this server do that. Any ideas? You guys rock. Thanks! From jkinney at localnetsolutions.com Fri Sep 1 21:39:19 2006 From: jkinney at localnetsolutions.com (James P. Kinney III) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 17:39:19 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Teacher access to teacher tool In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1157146759.6254.16.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 14:08 -0700, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > > > Any suggestions? TeacherTool is blowing away the folks in Atlanta! Watching the look as we launched 23 simultaneous copies of OpenOffice with one button click was priceless! The speedup with the IP address only (instead of the hostname) I am willing to sacrifice in favor of the hostname list and a way to filter the list. We are going to have 150-180 thin clients per server (Big Servers!) and the fun of a teacher accidentally logging out a student in another room is not something I want to play with :) I have tweaked the source files and have the hostname back on. 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Restart xinetd after you've made your changes. Then tail /var/log/messages while a thin client is booting. When you're done, don't forget to turn the verbose logging back down. HTH, Ranbir -- Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu Linux 2.6.17-1.2142_FC4 i686 GNU/Linux 17:34:25 up 11:04, 3 users, load average: 0.25, 0.34, 0.32 From m3freak at rogers.com Fri Sep 1 21:47:28 2006 From: m3freak at rogers.com (Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 17:47:28 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Lexmark E323 network printer In-Reply-To: <1157133713.14770.49.camel@localhost> References: <1157133713.14770.49.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1157147248.5576.30.camel@krs.systemsaligned.com> On Fri, 2006-01-09 at 14:01 -0400, Gideon Romm wrote: > In other words, if you want the printer to work, you need to install > their software and use their Lexmark Printer Interface (or whatever its > called) to create the queues and manage the printers. In some cases the Lexmark drivers do interface with cups so that you can at least print using the system tools. But, if you want to do something only supported by the Lexmark driver, then you have to use the Lexmark print dialog box - what a pain in the ass. See if you can get a hold of a PPD file. In my case, the PPD for my Lexmark 510N gives everything I need, so I skipped the Lexmark drivers and the java based print dialog/manager. Regards, Ranbir -- Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu Linux 2.6.17-1.2142_FC4 i686 GNU/Linux 17:44:47 up 11:14, 2 users, load average: 0.20, 0.24, 0.26 From garnold at unrealsolutions.com Fri Sep 1 22:03:00 2006 From: garnold at unrealsolutions.com (Glenn Arnold) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 18:03:00 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Lexmark E323 network printer Message-ID: Thanks Gadi, I for the info! -Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Gideon Romm [mailto:ltsp at symbio-technologies.com] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 2:02 PM To: Support list for open source software in schools. Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Lexmark E323 network printer Glenn- We have a client who uses the Lexmark E323 on Linux. Lexmark printers are a bit annoying (in both Linux and Windows) in that they circumvent the native printing system by creating a "dummy device" and then funneling the print spool through their own software. In other words, if you want the printer to work, you need to install their software and use their Lexmark Printer Interface (or whatever its called) to create the queues and manage the printers. HTH, -Gadi On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 13:34 -0400, Glenn Arnold wrote: > Is anybody using a Lexmark E323 off their ltsp server? I also set a > queue up for a HP laserjet 4000 and it prints with no problems. I am > currently running K12LTSP 5.0 64bit and there is not native drivers. > I tried to use Optra driver with Post Script, but it does not print. > > > > Thanks > > -Glenn > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see -- -------------------------------------------------------- Gideon Romm | Proud LTSP Developer ltsp at symbio-technologies.com Support LTSP! Buy your hardware at: www.DisklessWorkstations.com www.DisklessThinClients.com (use coupon code: LTSP5P for 5% off thin clients from DisklessThinClients.com) _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see From garnold at unrealsolutions.com Fri Sep 1 22:04:16 2006 From: garnold at unrealsolutions.com (Glenn Arnold) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 18:04:16 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Lexmark E323 network printer Message-ID: Thanks for the info! I did install the Lexmark Utility and I agree it is a pain in the ass. Searching for a PPD file right now. Thanks -Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu [mailto:m3freak at rogers.com] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 5:47 PM To: k12osn at redhat.com Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Lexmark E323 network printer On Fri, 2006-01-09 at 14:01 -0400, Gideon Romm wrote: > In other words, if you want the printer to work, you need to install > their software and use their Lexmark Printer Interface (or whatever its > called) to create the queues and manage the printers. In some cases the Lexmark drivers do interface with cups so that you can at least print using the system tools. But, if you want to do something only supported by the Lexmark driver, then you have to use the Lexmark print dialog box - what a pain in the ass. See if you can get a hold of a PPD file. In my case, the PPD for my Lexmark 510N gives everything I need, so I skipped the Lexmark drivers and the java based print dialog/manager. Regards, Ranbir -- Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu Linux 2.6.17-1.2142_FC4 i686 GNU/Linux 17:44:47 up 11:14, 2 users, load average: 0.20, 0.24, 0.26 _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see From robark at gmail.com Fri Sep 1 23:17:37 2006 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 16:17:37 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Teacher access to teacher tool In-Reply-To: <1157146759.6254.16.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> References: <1157146759.6254.16.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> Message-ID: On 9/1/06, James P. Kinney III wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 14:08 -0700, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > TeacherTool is blowing away the folks in Atlanta! > > Watching the look as we launched 23 simultaneous copies of OpenOffice with > one button click was priceless! > > The speedup with the IP address only (instead of the hostname) I am > willing to sacrifice in favor of the hostname list and a way to filter > the list. We are going to have 150-180 thin clients per server (Big > Servers!) and the fun of a teacher accidentally logging out a student > in another room is not something I want to play with :) Hmm. This is an issue when you have big servers. Without doing big additions to my code :) I have a couple of ideas. 1) Not sure if each student has their own username but if they are just using generic logins like comp1, comp2, comp3, etc then you can differentiate with usernames like Acomp1, Bcomp1, Ccomp1, etc where A,B,C stand for different rooms. Fl_TT will sort alphabetically so all students in room A will be in one solid block in the list. 2)I just thought of this but it's kind of tricky since dhcp gives out ip's dynamically. If you can manage to tie an ip address to a specific mac address (client machine) you could potentially make each machine according to their mac address (and therefore location or classroom) start a tiny little program at login that does nothing and takes up almost no memory. The important aspect would be the name of the program. Call it "classA" for all computers in room A. I think you get the idea. So you could therebye use the FIND button in Fl_TT to select only those users who are in room A by typing "classA" and hitting FIND. You could then broadcast, logout, whatever and only affect the kids in your room. I have tweaked the source files and have the hostname back on. If you > have any suggestions on a best way to implement a filter ("show only > hostnames that begin with foo") I'll look at a patch. I'm not sure why ip is less useful than hostnames since by default an ip of say 192.168.0.252 translates to ws252.ltsp. Since Fl_TT can't access another K12LTSP server the .ltsp part of the hostname should always be the same. Also needed is a way to refresh the machine list without having to > restart the tool. Just click on the Users button whenever you want a refreshed list. No need to restart. -- > James P. Kinney III > CEO & Director of Engineering > Local Net Solutions,LLC > 770-493-8244 > http://www.localnetsolutions.com > > GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III (M.S. Physics) > > Fingerprint = 3C9E 6366 54FC A3FE BA4D 0659 6190 ADC3 829C 6CA7 > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > > -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada Fl_TeacherTool http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/ C++ GUI tutorial http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robark at gmail.com Sat Sep 2 03:00:18 2006 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 20:00:18 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Teacher access to teacher tool In-Reply-To: References: <1157146759.6254.16.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> Message-ID: On 9/1/06, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > > > > On 9/1/06, James P. Kinney III wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 14:08 -0700, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > TeacherTool is blowing away the folks in Atlanta! > > > > Watching the look as we launched 23 simultaneous copies of OpenOffice > > with one button click was priceless! > > > > The speedup with the IP address only (instead of the hostname) I am > > willing to sacrifice in favor of the hostname list and a way to filter > > the list. We are going to have 150-180 thin clients per server (Big > > Servers!) and the fun of a teacher accidentally logging out a student > > in another room is not something I want to play with :) > > > > Hmm. This is an issue when you have big servers. Without doing big > additions to my code :) I have a couple of ideas. > > 1) Not sure if each student has their own username but if they are just > using generic logins like comp1, comp2, comp3, etc then you can > differentiate with usernames like Acomp1, Bcomp1, Ccomp1, etc where A,B,C > stand for different rooms. Fl_TT will sort alphabetically so all students in > room A will be in one solid block in the list. > > 2)I just thought of this but it's kind of tricky since dhcp gives out ip's > dynamically. If you can manage to tie an ip address to a specific mac > address (client machine) you could potentially make each machine according > to their mac address (and therefore location or classroom) start a tiny > little program at login that does nothing and takes up almost no memory. The > important aspect would be the name of the program. Call it "classA" for all > computers in room A. I think you get the idea. So you could therebye use the > FIND button in Fl_TT to select only those users who are in room A by typing > "classA" and hitting FIND. You could then broadcast, logout, whatever and > only affect the kids in your room. > Here is an example dummy program call it classA.cc, classB.cc, or whatever #include int main (){ system ("sleep 2d"); return 0; } compile it with g++ classA.cc -o classA It would take up almost no memory and almost no cpu cycles since it's sleeping. It will not work though if people remain logged in for more than 2 days (2d). However, most people log out at the end of the day. The tricky part would be to get the correct mac address/ip to launch the correct named program (classA,classB, etc) at login. It's kind of hackish but I think it would solve your problem of teachers knowing who belongs to their classroom. I have tweaked the source files and have the hostname back on. If you > > have any suggestions on a best way to implement a filter ("show only > > hostnames that begin with foo") I'll look at a patch. > > > I'm not sure why ip is less useful than hostnames since by default an ip > of say 192.168.0.252 translates to ws252.ltsp. Since Fl_TT can't access > another K12LTSP server the .ltsp part of the hostname should always be the > same. > > > Also needed is a way to refresh the machine list without having to > > restart the tool. > > > Just click on the Users button whenever you want a refreshed list. No need > to restart. > > > -- > > > James P. Kinney III > CEO & Director of Engineering > Local Net Solutions,LLC > 770-493-8244 > http://www.localnetsolutions.com > > GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III ( M.S. Physics) > > Fingerprint = 3C9E 6366 54FC A3FE BA4D 0659 6190 ADC3 829C 6CA7 > > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see < http://www.k12os.org> > > > > > > -- > Robert Arkiletian > Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada > Fl_TeacherTool http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/ > C++ GUI tutorial http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/ > -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada Fl_TeacherTool http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/ C++ GUI tutorial http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jkinney at localnetsolutions.com Sat Sep 2 03:20:42 2006 From: jkinney at localnetsolutions.com (James P. Kinney III) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 23:20:42 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Teacher access to teacher tool In-Reply-To: References: <1157146759.6254.16.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> Message-ID: <1157167242.6254.38.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 16:17 -0700, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > > > On 9/1/06, James P. Kinney III wrote: > On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 14:08 -0700, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > TeacherTool is blowing away the folks in Atlanta! > > Watching the look as we launched 23 simultaneous copies of > OpenOffice with one button click was priceless! > > The speedup with the IP address only (instead of the hostname) > I am > willing to sacrifice in favor of the hostname list and a way > to filter > the list. We are going to have 150-180 thin clients per server > (Big > Servers!) and the fun of a teacher accidentally logging out a > student > in another room is not something I want to play with :) > > > Hmm. This is an issue when you have big servers. Without doing big > additions to my code :) I have a couple of ideas. > > 1) Not sure if each student has their own username but if they are > just using generic logins like comp1, comp2, comp3, etc then you can > differentiate with usernames like Acomp1, Bcomp1, Ccomp1, etc where > A,B,C stand for different rooms. Fl_TT will sort alphabetically so all > students in room A will be in one solid block in the list. We have a mix of autologon by machine name and individual logon that will track the student through the school (Middle school kids change classes). So for the most part, sorting by logon name will be a challenge. > > 2)I just thought of this but it's kind of tricky since dhcp gives out > ip's dynamically. If you can manage to tie an ip address to a specific > mac address (client machine) you could potentially make each machine > according to their mac address (and therefore location or classroom) > start a tiny little program at login that does nothing and takes up > almost no memory. The important aspect would be the name of the > program. Call it "classA" for all computers in room A. I think you get > the idea. So you could therebye use the FIND button in Fl_TT to select > only those users who are in room A by typing "classA" and hitting > FIND. You could then broadcast, logout, whatever and only affect the > kids in your room. We are doing fixed address dhcp. We have a host name scheme based on room number ans workstation number (i.e. rm114ws05). This is why I was thinking about the filtering ability. > > > > I have tweaked the source files and have the hostname back on. > If you > have any suggestions on a best way to implement a filter > ("show only > hostnames that begin with foo") I'll look at a patch. > > I'm not sure why ip is less useful than hostnames since by default an > ip of say MailScanner warning: numerical links are often > malicious:192.168.0.252 translates to ws252.ltsp. Since Fl_TT can't > access another K12LTSP server the .ltsp part of the hostname should > always be the same. Well, the last version I was using (what shipped with K12LTSP v. 5.0.0) had the IP only code and didn't display the host name for the clients. That works for (I can think in hex on good days. I dream in perl. I need help! :) I was thinking about potentially 4000 teachers seeing dotted quads and having to be trained to see all that in the room. We will be labeling the screen very visibly but text makes more sense to them that IP addresses. I was looking at the line that produces the list of machines and took out the "-n" to regain the host names. As the names will be in the /etc/hosts file it's a fast enough lookup. So now I'm looking at a wrapper script that asks for the room number on launch and then uses that to only display machines with that string in it. It's a bit of a kludge as it requires a) a fixed implementation of room number in the host name and b) it requires more input from the teachers on start up. If I can get thin clients in front of the teachers, I can name them in a similar way (rm103ts01) and then the wrapper script can simply read the hostname of the launching system and display the matching clients. Basically the wrapper script just passes the string to the main app that will be used to match the hostnames with. There will be a modification to the actual teachertool to accommodate being passed a variable and to do a grep on the list. Once I have it working, I'll send a patch. > > > Also needed is a way to refresh the machine list without > having to > restart the tool. > > Just click on the Users button whenever you want a refreshed list. No > need to restart. Ah! Many thanks! > > > -- > James P. Kinney III > CEO & Director of Engineering > Local Net Solutions,LLC > 770-493-8244 > http://www.localnetsolutions.com > > GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III ( M.S. Physics) > > Fingerprint = 3C9E 6366 54FC A3FE BA4D 0659 6190 ADC3 829C > 6CA7 > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > > > > > -- > Robert Arkiletian > Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada > Fl_TeacherTool http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/ > C++ GUI tutorial http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/ > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see -- James P. Kinney III CEO & Director of Engineering Local Net Solutions,LLC 770-493-8244 http://www.localnetsolutions.com GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III (M.S. Physics) Fingerprint = 3C9E 6366 54FC A3FE BA4D 0659 6190 ADC3 829C 6CA7 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From robark at gmail.com Sat Sep 2 05:46:36 2006 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 22:46:36 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Teacher access to teacher tool In-Reply-To: <1157167242.6254.38.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> References: <1157146759.6254.16.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> <1157167242.6254.38.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> Message-ID: On 9/1/06, James P. Kinney III wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 16:17 -0700, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > > > > > > On 9/1/06, James P. Kinney III wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 14:08 -0700, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > TeacherTool is blowing away the folks in Atlanta! > > > > Watching the look as we launched 23 simultaneous copies of > > OpenOffice with one button click was priceless! > > > > The speedup with the IP address only (instead of the hostname) > > I am > > willing to sacrifice in favor of the hostname list and a way > > to filter > > the list. We are going to have 150-180 thin clients per server > > (Big > > Servers!) and the fun of a teacher accidentally logging out a > > student > > in another room is not something I want to play with :) > > > > > > Hmm. This is an issue when you have big servers. Without doing big > > additions to my code :) I have a couple of ideas. > > > > 1) Not sure if each student has their own username but if they are > > just using generic logins like comp1, comp2, comp3, etc then you can > > differentiate with usernames like Acomp1, Bcomp1, Ccomp1, etc where > > A,B,C stand for different rooms. Fl_TT will sort alphabetically so all > > students in room A will be in one solid block in the list. > > We have a mix of autologon by machine name and individual logon that > will track the student through the school (Middle school kids change > classes). So for the most part, sorting by logon name will be a > challenge. > > > > 2)I just thought of this but it's kind of tricky since dhcp gives out > > ip's dynamically. If you can manage to tie an ip address to a specific > > mac address (client machine) you could potentially make each machine > > according to their mac address (and therefore location or classroom) > > start a tiny little program at login that does nothing and takes up > > almost no memory. The important aspect would be the name of the > > program. Call it "classA" for all computers in room A. I think you get > > the idea. So you could therebye use the FIND button in Fl_TT to select > > only those users who are in room A by typing "classA" and hitting > > FIND. You could then broadcast, logout, whatever and only affect the > > kids in your room. > > We are doing fixed address dhcp. We have a host name scheme based on > room number ans workstation number (i.e. rm114ws05). This is why I was > thinking about the filtering ability. Ahh. I see. > > > > > > > I have tweaked the source files and have the hostname back on. > > If you > > have any suggestions on a best way to implement a filter > > ("show only > > hostnames that begin with foo") I'll look at a patch. > > > > I'm not sure why ip is less useful than hostnames since by default an > > ip of say MailScanner warning: numerical links are often > > malicious:192.168.0.252 translates to ws252.ltsp. Since Fl_TT can't > > access another K12LTSP server the .ltsp part of the hostname should > > always be the same. > > Well, the last version I was using (what shipped with K12LTSP v. 5.0.0) > had the IP only code and didn't display the host name for the clients. > That works for (I can think in hex on good days. I dream in perl. I need > help! :) I was thinking about potentially 4000 teachers seeing dotted > quads and having to be trained to see all that in the room. We will be > labeling the screen very visibly but text makes more sense to them that > IP addresses. I see your desire for hostnames. I was looking at the line that produces the list of machines and took > out the "-n" to regain the host names. As the names will be in It's not that simple. putting the -n back in will make things very slow especially if you have many users. I have just finished modifying 0.34 to give you back your hostnames without the speed penalty. At this point I don't feel this justifies a 0.35 release. Not sure how many people would find this useful. I am just going to send you the code. Compile etc, etc and see how you like it. Let me know how it works for you. the /etc/hosts file it's a fast enough lookup. So now I'm looking at a > wrapper script that asks for the room number on launch and then uses > that to only display machines with that string in it. It's a bit of a > kludge as it requires a) a fixed implementation of room number in the > host name and b) it requires more input from the teachers on start up. > > If I can get thin clients in front of the teachers, I can name them in a > similar way (rm103ts01) and then the wrapper script can simply read the > hostname of the launching system and display the matching clients. > > Basically the wrapper script just passes the string to the main app that > will be used to match the hostnames with. There will be a modification > to the actual teachertool to accommodate being passed a variable and to > do a grep on the list. Once I have it working, I'll send a patch. > > > > > > Also needed is a way to refresh the machine list without > > having to > > restart the tool. > > > > Just click on the Users button whenever you want a refreshed list. No > > need to restart. > > Ah! Many thanks! > > > > > > -- > > James P. Kinney III > > CEO & Director of Engineering > > Local Net Solutions,LLC > > 770-493-8244 > > http://www.localnetsolutions.com > > > > GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III ( M.S. Physics) > > > > Fingerprint = 3C9E 6366 54FC A3FE BA4D 0659 6190 ADC3 829C > > 6CA7 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Robert Arkiletian > > Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada > > Fl_TeacherTool http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/ > > C++ GUI tutorial http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/ > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > -- > James P. Kinney III > CEO & Director of Engineering > Local Net Solutions,LLC > 770-493-8244 > http://www.localnetsolutions.com > > GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III (M.S. Physics) > > Fingerprint = 3C9E 6366 54FC A3FE BA4D 0659 6190 ADC3 829C 6CA7 > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > > -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada Fl_TeacherTool http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/ C++ GUI tutorial http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hick518 at yahoo.com Sat Sep 2 10:52:27 2006 From: hick518 at yahoo.com (Rob Owens) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 03:52:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 4.2.4EL planning... how stable? In-Reply-To: <44F85A1F.1040904@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> Message-ID: <20060902105227.16037.qmail@web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I currently don't use the EL branch, but I say stability should be its main focus. Keep all those new packages out of it. Perhaps make the newer packages available in another repository, in case anybody wants to experiment. But I think the EL users need to be able to turn on automatic nightly yum updates without worry of breaking something. I do nightly yum updates on my CentOS web server and don't have any problems. I'd be real concerned about doing that with Fedora. Dropping new packages into K12LTSP 4.2EL would be blurring the line too much between Fedora and CentOS. -Rob --- Eric Harrison wrote: > > CentOS 4.4 has been released & I've started work on > K12LTSP 4.2.4EL. > > The question is how stable should the stable branch > be? > > > There are a half-dozen end-user applications that > can be updated. These > would be essentially back-ports from FC5 (K12LTSP > 5.0). Does anyone > using K12LTSP 4.2EL have concerns about bumping up > to the > latest-and-greatest of any of these packages? > > > Package Name K12LTSP 4.2.3EL version Latest > version > ------------ ------------------------ > --------------------------- > blender 2.37-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 2.42-6.fc5 > celestia 1.3.2-3.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 1.4.1-5.fc5 > childsplay 0.81.1-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.83-1.fc5 > DansGuardian 2.7.6-7.k12ltsp.0.4.0 > 2.9.7.1-0.k12ltsp.0.5.0.0 > gcompris 7.1.1-4.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 7.4-13.fc5 > inkscape 0.43-1.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.44-4.fc5 > tuxmath 0.2001.9.7-0103 > 0.2005.10.11-0 > > > > The real big question is whether or not to switch > from LTSP 4.1 to LTSP > 4.2? This is not an insignificant change, > considering that the kernel > for the terminals is changed from a 2.4 kernel to a > 2.6 kernel. > > Considering that a "stable" branch should favor > stability over shiny new > features, I am currently leaning towards leaving > K12LTSP 4.2.4EL with > the older LTSP 4.1 packages. This is largely a > question with upgrades, > so I'd like to hear from those of you currently > running K12LTSP 4.2.3EL. > Are the new features in LTSP 4.2 (largely improved > USB/CD/floppy > support) worth the risk of potentially breaking some > of your terminals? > > > -Eric > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From spowers at inlandlakes.org Sat Sep 2 13:59:44 2006 From: spowers at inlandlakes.org (Shawn Powers) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 09:59:44 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] New HP clients kernel panic... In-Reply-To: <44F862B5.3050508@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> References: <49142.10.10.5.20.1156269114.squirrel@www.inlandlakes.org> <1156276417.13795.434.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> <739E11C0-4803-43FA-A832-D80942E07C1E@inlandlakes.org> <09635931-C360-477C-BCFF-A65F15716432@inlandlakes.org> <44F85B88.5000606@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> <44F862B5.3050508@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> Message-ID: <01AF764B-B2AB-4CFF-A54B-73A16BF7CFE9@inlandlakes.org> On Sep 1, 2006, at 12:41 PM, Eric Harrison wrote: > Before you downgrade, can you test out a new upgrade? > > ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/testing/RPMS/ltsp_i386- > boot-2.6.17.8-1.k12ltsp.5.0.0.noarch.rpm > > -Eric LOL, I *just* figured out how to extract the kernel from an RPM that I found on your ftp server, and put the files where they go etc. I figured everyone was too busy to answer my pleas for help. :) The old kernel worked, and I will try the new one this weekend. Since I manually extracted/linked the old kernel, I'm not sure if the new RPM will install properly -- but I will install it, and relink the kernel if needed. Thanks for the help, I guess I should have been a little more patient! -Shawn -- Shawn Powers Technology Director Inland Lakes Schools PHN: 231-238-6868 x9174 FAX: 509-356-7024 spowers at inlandlakes.org Homepage: http://techcorner.inlandlakes.org Personal Website: http://www.brainofshawn.com ---- The views, opinions, visions, thoughts, comments, sarcastic whims, forecasts, poetic outbursts, cynical wit, future plans, implementation ideas, OS preference, curricular insight, ice cream preference, or anything else I might infer are not the views of Inland Lakes Schools. Pretty much everything I say, do, think, or imply with punctuation should be considered my own delusions, and ignored completely. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll probably drive in today because it will be eating away at me until I try it out. ;o) Thanks, -Shawn On Sep 1, 2006, at 12:10 PM, Eric Harrison wrote: > Here you go: > > ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/testing/old-kernel/ > ltsp_i386-boot-2.6.16-2.k12ltsp.5.0.0.i386.rpm > > > -Eric -- Shawn Powers Technology Director Inland Lakes Schools PHN: 231-238-6868 x9174 FAX: 509-356-7024 spowers at inlandlakes.org Homepage: http://techcorner.inlandlakes.org Personal Website: http://www.brainofshawn.com ---- The views, opinions, visions, thoughts, comments, sarcastic whims, forecasts, poetic outbursts, cynical wit, future plans, implementation ideas, OS preference, curricular insight, ice cream preference, or anything else I might infer are not the views of Inland Lakes Schools. Pretty much everything I say, do, think, or imply with punctuation should be considered my own delusions, and ignored completely. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ascensiontech at gmail.com Sat Sep 2 15:49:44 2006 From: ascensiontech at gmail.com (Peter Hartmann) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 11:49:44 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 4.2.4EL planning... how stable? In-Reply-To: <44F85A1F.1040904@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> References: <44F85A1F.1040904@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> Message-ID: <9bd317560609020849j2c065119i537d6ec7459f44c1@mail.gmail.com> I'd like the new features but wouldn't mind being able to boot and use the old tree if things didn't work out right off the bat client-side. But I don't know if that would be complicated to automate. Thanks Eric -Peter On 9/1/06, Eric Harrison wrote: > > CentOS 4.4 has been released & I've started work on K12LTSP 4.2.4EL. > > The question is how stable should the stable branch be? > > > There are a half-dozen end-user applications that can be updated. These > would be essentially back-ports from FC5 (K12LTSP 5.0). Does anyone > using K12LTSP 4.2EL have concerns about bumping up to the > latest-and-greatest of any of these packages? > > > Package Name K12LTSP 4.2.3EL version Latest version > ------------ ------------------------ --------------------------- > blender 2.37-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 2.42-6.fc5 > celestia 1.3.2-3.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 1.4.1-5.fc5 > childsplay 0.81.1-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.83-1.fc5 > DansGuardian 2.7.6-7.k12ltsp.0.4.0 2.9.7.1-0.k12ltsp.0.5.0.0 > gcompris 7.1.1-4.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 7.4-13.fc5 > inkscape 0.43-1.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.44-4.fc5 > tuxmath 0.2001.9.7-0103 0.2005.10.11-0 > > > > The real big question is whether or not to switch from LTSP 4.1 to LTSP > 4.2? This is not an insignificant change, considering that the kernel > for the terminals is changed from a 2.4 kernel to a 2.6 kernel. > > Considering that a "stable" branch should favor stability over shiny new > features, I am currently leaning towards leaving K12LTSP 4.2.4EL with > the older LTSP 4.1 packages. This is largely a question with upgrades, > so I'd like to hear from those of you currently running K12LTSP 4.2.3EL. > Are the new features in LTSP 4.2 (largely improved USB/CD/floppy > support) worth the risk of potentially breaking some of your terminals? > > > -Eric > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From spowers at inlandlakes.org Sat Sep 2 16:24:14 2006 From: spowers at inlandlakes.org (Shawn Powers) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 12:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [K12OSN] New HP clients kernel panic... In-Reply-To: <44F862B5.3050508@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> References: <49142.10.10.5.20.1156269114.squirrel@www.inlandlakes.org> <1156276417.13795.434.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> <739E11C0-4803-43FA-A832-D80942E07C1E@inlandlakes.org> <09635931-C360-477C-BCFF-A65F15716432@inlandlakes.org> <44F85B88.5000606@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> <44F862B5.3050508@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> Message-ID: <45733.10.10.5.20.1157214254.squirrel@www.inlandlakes.org> Well, the upgrade did not make a difference, it still kernel panics at the same place. The link you gave me to the old kernel (a much newer kernel than I had found) works well. So version vmlinuz-2.6.16-2.k12ltsp.5.0.0 does work, but the current version and the update you linked below do not work. I'll happily test any other versions, just let me know. I'll also try to get more error messages, but I'm not sure how to best do that. Thanks a ton for your help, it's truly appreciated, -Shawn (who is in no rush for a new kernel -- this one is working fine) On Fri, September 1, 2006 12:41 pm, Eric Harrison wrote: > > Before you downgrade, can you test out a new upgrade? > > ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/testing/RPMS/ltsp_i386-boot-2.6.17.8-1.k12ltsp.5.0.0.noarch.rpm > > -Eric > > Eric Harrison wrote: >> Shawn Powers wrote: >>> Could someone point me to where I would download a different kernel for >>> these thin clients (to try?), along with how to make the clients use >>> the >>> older kernel? If I can't get them to boot, I'm going to have to >>> install >>> an old version of K12LTSP, and that would be a bummer. >>> >>> Sorry to ask for help at this terribly busy time of year, >>> -Shawn >> >> >> Here you go: >> >> ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/testing/old-kernel/ltsp_i386-boot-2.6.16-2.k12ltsp.5.0.0.i386.rpm >> >> >> -Eric >> >>> On Aug 22, 2006, at 9:22 PM, Shawn Powers wrote: >>> >>>> On Aug 22, 2006, at 3:53 PM, James P. Kinney III wrote: >>>>> Check the server logs for this error. Since DHCPD on the server _was_ >>>>> working enough to send out the initial IP address and then the PXE >>>>> boot >>>>> kernel and then the main kernel. >>>> I don't see the error anywhere in the logs (I'm not sure where to look >>>> other than /var/log/messages). The only non-standard thing on the >>>> server install is that I switched eth0 and eth1 around from what the >>>> installer did by default. (ie, I made eth0 public and eth1 private). >>>> I didn't find anything else to change in the config files regarding >>>> eth0 or eth1, and other clients boot fine. Perhaps there is something >>>> I should change? >>>> >>>> (On older versions I would have to tell dhcpd what interface to run >>>> on, but it's smart in this release and only runs on the interface with >>>> IP numbers matching the dhcpd config) >>>> >>>> I'm really scratching my head with this one... It booted OK from a >>>> 4.0.2 server (although the video card was detected, but that's a minor >>>> issue). I might try installing a server from scratch, and seeing if >>>> it boots up tomorrow on the new server. Reinstalling on the server in >>>> question would really be a pain in the butt though... >>>> >>>> -Shawn >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Shawn Powers >>>> Technology Director >>>> Inland Lakes Schools >>>> PHN: 231-238-6868 x9174 >>>> FAX: 509-356-7024 >>>> spowers at inlandlakes.org >>>> Homepage: http://techcorner.inlandlakes.org >>>> Personal Website: http://www.brainofshawn.com >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> The views, opinions, visions, thoughts, comments, >>>> sarcastic whims, forecasts, poetic outbursts, >>>> cynical wit, future plans, implementation ideas, >>>> OS preference, curricular insight, ice cream preference, >>>> or anything else I might infer are not the >>>> views of Inland Lakes Schools. Pretty much everything >>>> I say, do, think, or imply with punctuation should be >>>> considered my own delusions, and ignored completely. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> K12OSN mailing list >>>> K12OSN at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >>>> For more info see >>>> --- >>>> This message checked for SPAM and Viruses by MailFoundry. >>>> If this is SPAM, please forward it to spam at mailfoundry.com >>> -- >>> Shawn Powers >>> Technology Director >>> Inland Lakes Schools >>> PHN: 231-238-6868 x9174 >>> FAX: 509-356-7024 >>> spowers at inlandlakes.org >>> Homepage: http://techcorner.inlandlakes.org >>> Personal Website: http://www.brainofshawn.com >>> >>> ---- >>> The views, opinions, visions, thoughts, comments, >>> sarcastic whims, forecasts, poetic outbursts, >>> cynical wit, future plans, implementation ideas, >>> OS preference, curricular insight, ice cream preference, >>> or anything else I might infer are not the >>> views of Inland Lakes Schools. Pretty much everything >>> I say, do, think, or imply with punctuation should be >>> considered my own delusions, and ignored completely. >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > --- > This message checked for SPAM and Viruses by MailFoundry. > If this is SPAM, please forward it to spam at mailfoundry.com > -- Shawn Powers Technology Director Inland Lakes Schools PHN: 231-238-6868 x9174 FAX: 509-356-7024 spowers at inlandlakes.org http://techcorner.inlandlakes.org ---- The views, opinions, visions, thoughts, comments, sarcastic whims, forecasts, poetic outbursts, cynical wit, future plans, implementation ideas, OS preference, curricular insight, ice cream preference, or anything else I might infer are not the views of Inland Lakes Schools. Pretty much everything I say, do, think, or imply with punctuation should be considered my own delusions, and ignored completely. From johnny at msad41.us Sat Sep 2 16:40:14 2006 From: johnny at msad41.us (John T. Leonard) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 12:40:14 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] (no subject) Message-ID: <1157215214.44f9b3ee40d1b@www.msad41.us> In trying to boot a G3 Ibook onto my K12LTSP server I get the following error message...first time I've encountered this...can anyone shed some light on what I've messed up? TIA, John. eth0: Full Duplex: 1, Speed: 100 Mounting root filesystem: /opt/ltsp/ppc from: 192.168.0.254 mount: 192.168.0.254:/opt/ltsp/ppc failed, reason given by server: Permission Denied mount: nfsmount failed: Bad file descriptor NFS: mount program didn't pass remote address! mount: Mounting 192.168.0.254:/opt/ltsp/ppc on /mnt failed: Invalid argument ERROR! Failed to mount the root directory via NFS! Possible reasons include: 1) NFS services is not running on the server 2) Workstation IP does not map to a hostname, either in /etc/hosts, or in DNS 3) Wrong address for NFS server in the DHCP config file 4) Wrong pathname for root directory in the DHCP config file John T. Leonard Technology Coordinator MSAD No. 41 Penquis Valley HS/MS 48 Penquis Drive Milo, Maine 04463 Office:207-943-5332 Fax:207-943-7348 Voice:207-943-0902 Exts.181,189 From jwiles at johnmorganwiles.com Sat Sep 2 19:01:36 2006 From: jwiles at johnmorganwiles.com (John Wiles) Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 15:01:36 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Failing to mount the root directory via NFS In-Reply-To: <1157215214.44f9b3ee40d1b@www.msad41.us> References: <1157215214.44f9b3ee40d1b@www.msad41.us> Message-ID: <44F9D510.1050404@johnmorganwiles.com> John T. Leonard wrote: > In trying to boot a G3 Ibook onto my K12LTSP server I get the following error > message...first time I've encountered this...can anyone shed some light on what > I've messed up? > TIA, John. > > eth0: Full Duplex: 1, Speed: 100 > Mounting root filesystem: /opt/ltsp/ppc from: 192.168.0.254 > mount: 192.168.0.254:/opt/ltsp/ppc failed, reason given by server: Permission Denied > mount: nfsmount failed: Bad file descriptor > NFS: mount program didn't pass remote address! > mount: Mounting 192.168.0.254:/opt/ltsp/ppc on /mnt failed: Invalid argument > > ERROR! Failed to mount the root directory via NFS! > Possible reasons include: > 1) NFS services is not running on the server > 2) Workstation IP does not map to a hostname, either in /etc/hosts, or in DNS > 3) Wrong address for NFS server in the DHCP config file > 4) Wrong pathname for root directory in the DHCP config file > > > The last time I saw this error, just the other day, the solution was to put the host name of the client in the /etc/hosts file--just as the text above describes in option 2. Once this was done the client completed it's loading process. My setup for an Intro to Unix/Linux class is a Dell Poweredge 4400 with dual 933 MHz processors, with 1 Gig of RAM and over 120 gigs of hard drive space--utilizing hardware Raid 5. John -- ------------------------------------------------ John Wiles CIS Instructor Sandersville Technical College 1189 Deepstep Road Sandersville, GA 31082 http://www.johnmorganwiles.com ------------------------------------------------ From tkathan at charter.net Sat Sep 2 22:54:49 2006 From: tkathan at charter.net (Jim Kathan) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 15:54:49 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] K12 Gnome hanging during startup2 Message-ID: <000301c6cee2$cb9a5de0$4000a8c0@themm> As root, after I login to Gnome in K12 5, it hangs on "Metacity Window Manager" and takes about 5 minutes to bring the full desktop up. None of the other accounts on this server do that. Any ideas? You guys rock. Thanks! _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see From tkathan at charter.net Sat Sep 2 22:55:12 2006 From: tkathan at charter.net (Jim Kathan) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 15:55:12 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] edit login session choices2? Message-ID: <000401c6cee2$d96f0420$4000a8c0@themm> Probably a really old one, but where can I edit out the different session choices for the K12 login? IE., remove KDE and ICE but leave in Gnome? Thanks! Pleas help! _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see From petre at maltzen.net Sun Sep 3 00:33:06 2006 From: petre at maltzen.net (Peter Scheie) Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 19:33:06 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] edit login session choices2? In-Reply-To: <000401c6cee2$d96f0420$4000a8c0@themm> References: <000401c6cee2$d96f0420$4000a8c0@themm> Message-ID: <44FA22C2.4080400@maltzen.net> This has changed several times over the years (which is rather frustrating, frankly). In version 5, the Session configuration files are stored in /usr/share/xsessions/. If you remove the icewm.desktop and kde.desktop files (or better, just rename them to, say, icewm.desktop.not.used, in case you ever want them back), they'll not appear under the Sessions menu. You'll have to choose Disconnect on the client or reboot the client for the change to appear. Petre Jim Kathan wrote: > Probably a really old one, but where can I edit out the different session > choices for the K12 login? IE., remove KDE and ICE but leave in Gnome? > Thanks! > Pleas help! > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From cliebow at midmaine.com Sun Sep 3 00:40:44 2006 From: cliebow at midmaine.com (cliebow at midmaine.com) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 20:40:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [K12OSN] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1157215214.44f9b3ee40d1b@www.msad41.us> References: <1157215214.44f9b3ee40d1b@www.msad41.us> Message-ID: <56782.70.33.151.214.1157244044.squirrel@webmail.midmaine.com> be sure you are exporting your ppc filesysytem.. i think i export /opt/ltsp and i ahve 4.2 ppc and 41 beneath that.. > In trying to boot a G3 Ibook onto my K12LTSP server I get the following > error > message...first time I've encountered this...can anyone shed some light on > what > I've messed up? > TIA, John. > > eth0: Full Duplex: 1, Speed: 100 > Mounting root filesystem: /opt/ltsp/ppc from: 192.168.0.254 > mount: 192.168.0.254:/opt/ltsp/ppc failed, reason given by server: > Permission Denied > mount: nfsmount failed: Bad file descriptor > NFS: mount program didn't pass remote address! > mount: Mounting 192.168.0.254:/opt/ltsp/ppc on /mnt failed: Invalid > argument > > ERROR! Failed to mount the root directory via NFS! > Possible reasons include: > 1) NFS services is not running on the server > 2) Workstation IP does not map to a hostname, either in /etc/hosts, or in > DNS > 3) Wrong address for NFS server in the DHCP config file > 4) Wrong pathname for root directory in the DHCP config file > > > > John T. Leonard > Technology Coordinator > MSAD No. 41 > Penquis Valley HS/MS > 48 Penquis Drive > Milo, Maine 04463 > Office:207-943-5332 > Fax:207-943-7348 > Voice:207-943-0902 > Exts.181,189 > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From ssanders at coin.org Sun Sep 3 05:35:29 2006 From: ssanders at coin.org (ssanders at coin.org) Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 00:35:29 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Mondo Archive on K12LTSP 5.0 In-Reply-To: <56782.70.33.151.214.1157244044.squirrel@webmail.midmaine.com> References: <1157215214.44f9b3ee40d1b@www.msad41.us> <56782.70.33.151.214.1157244044.squirrel@webmail.midmaine.com> Message-ID: <1157261729.21875.22.camel@bofh.ltsp> Hi all, I have been a big fan of www.mondorescue.org for a long time. It's a good way to migrate an existing version to new hardware, and it's also an easy bare-metal recovery/restore. For my home/test 4.4.2 setup I have been using a second hard drive and rsync to keep a backup of /home for the last few years. Mondo was nice, because I could cron a backup to DVD-ISO images, and only burn them once in a while (not true disaster recovery, but reliable at the time, assuming no catastrophic HD failure). I recently got a Quantum SDLT tape drive, and have been considering good ways to back up to it. Amanda, BRU and most other official 'backup software' require a basic OS and that software installed to do a ground-up restore. I know that backuppc has been working well for many here, with the ever-decreasing prices of drives, it seems a good way to back up one or many machines over a network. I have a separate test install of K12LTSP 5.0 on another machine, and installed backuppc to look at it, the docs specify that it's use of tape is not the best, it's more oriented to additional physical drives. A pure tar -cvf to tape will work of course, but would be more difficult to maintain incremental backups. I installed mondoarchive on the new version (it always had a choice to use tape), and I was quite suprised that there seem to be many things missing or in the wrong dir. Mindi (the temp kernel/boot stuff) had several errors about 'cannot find XYZ' (I'm not at the machine now, cannot quote directly). I could find them, copy into the expected path, and went on to the next problem. It had wrong versions of libnewt, libslang, and a few others that I could manually find and get in place. It's still not working, and I wondered if anyone here has worked with Mondoarchive on the latest version? The idea of a full system backup on one removable media is attractive, and Mondo would/could be nice to use. Mondo does log everything well, and it's suggested to mail the failures to their mailing list. I will do so, but wanted to check here first, to see if anyone has had these problems. thx ss From rgarza28 at gmail.com Sun Sep 3 06:17:10 2006 From: rgarza28 at gmail.com (Ray Garza) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 01:17:10 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] adding soundcard to the lts.conf file Message-ID: <200609030117.10711.rgarza@gmail.com> My client PC's are not detecting and loading the sound module during bootup. It works fine on the server (both server and client PC's are the same except the server has all the memory). I'm using K12LTSP 5 and LTSP 4.2 update 3. Here is the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/audiolist section on Intel : #Intel Corporation 8086:2125 ? ? ? i810_audio ? ? ?#82801AB AC97 Audio Controller 8086:2415 ? ? ? i810_audio ? ? ?#82801AA AC97 Audio Controller 8086:2425 ? ? ? i810_audio ? ? ?#82801AB AC97 Audio Controller 8086:2445 ? ? ? i810_audio ? ? ?#82801BA/BAM AC97 Audio Controller 8086:2446 ? ? ? i810_audio ? ? ?#82801BA/BAM AC97 Modem Controller 8086:2485 ? ? ? i810_audio ? ? ?#82801CA/CAM AC97 Audio Controller 8086:7195 ? ? ? i810_audio ? ? ?#82443MX? AC97 Audio Controller ------------------------------------------------ And here is the lspci -vv section on the sound card: 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) ? ? ? ? Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 01ad ? ? ? ? Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- ? ? ? ? Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- Message-ID: <20060903110136.26845.qmail@web32804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I don't know if you ever got a good answer to this question or not. You can start by reading here: http://www.ltsp.org/documentation/ltsp-4.1/ltsp-4.1-en.html#AEN1190 Chapters 9 and 10 have details about settings you can specify in the lts.conf file. This file contains mostly hardware-related stuff, like video drivers, mouse type, screen resolution, etc. For settings that fall more under "user preferences", such as desktop background, default settings for OpenOffice (or other programs), you'll find a "dot file" in each user's home directory for just about every application on the system. For instance, there will be a .openoffice file or folder, a .gimp file or folder, etc. (sometimes the version number is included, such as .openoffice2 or .gimp-2.2). You can copy user1's .openoffice folder to user2's home directory and that transfers user1's settings to user2. (You need to make sure that you give user2 ownership of his new .openoffice folder like this: chown -R user2.user2 .openoffice) -Rob --- Jim Kathan wrote: > Sudev, thank you for your prompt reply. So your > answer is "yes". My follow > up question would be "how?" :) > What is the syntax, and how do I put it in? I guess > I am asking "can I add > in line parameters to specify themes, mouse and > keyboard settings?" > > -----Original Message----- > From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf > Of Sudev Barar > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:18 PM > To: Support list for open source software in > schools. > Subject: Re: [K12OSN] edit global settings for > preferences for all users? > > On 19/08/06, Jim Kathan wrote: > > Is there some way I can globally, for all users, > modify things like how > fast > > a mouse responds, the repeat rate of keyboard > cursors, the theme, screen > > resolution, etc? I found picking certain settings > seemed to give my main > > server the appearance of responding faster and > more smoothly; and I would > > like to do this for all the remote client logins, > but not have to redo it > 85 > > times. Any ideas? > > The default settings section in > /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf at the top > is where you can set specific settings if they are > common to all > users. > > HTH > > -- > Regards, > Sudev Barar > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From eharrison at mail.mesd.k12.or.us Sun Sep 3 17:04:41 2006 From: eharrison at mail.mesd.k12.or.us (Eric Harrison) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [K12OSN] Mondo Archive on K12LTSP 5.0 In-Reply-To: <1157261729.21875.22.camel@bofh.ltsp> References: <1157215214.44f9b3ee40d1b@www.msad41.us> <56782.70.33.151.214.1157244044.squirrel@webmail.midmaine.com> <1157261729.21875.22.camel@bofh.ltsp> Message-ID: On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 ssanders at coin.org wrote: > I installed mondoarchive on the new version (it always had a choice to > use tape), and I was quite suprised that there seem to be many things > missing or in the wrong dir. Mindi (the temp kernel/boot stuff) had > several errors about 'cannot find XYZ' (I'm not at the machine now, > cannot quote directly). I could find them, copy into the expected path, > and went on to the next problem. It had wrong versions of libnewt, > libslang, and a few others that I could manually find and get in place. > > It's still not working, and I wondered if anyone here has worked with > Mondoarchive on the latest version? The idea of a full system backup on > one removable media is attractive, and Mondo would/could be nice to use. Did you do a "yum install mondo" or did you install the packages from mondorescue.org? I rebuilt the mondo packages on K12LTSP 5.0 and stuck them here: ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/testing/mondo/ I have not tested them, so I'm not sure if they'll fix the problems you are seeing or not. If they do work, let me know and I'll add them to the yum repository. -Eric From ssanders at coin.org Sun Sep 3 17:37:24 2006 From: ssanders at coin.org (ssanders at coin.org) Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:37:24 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Mondo Archive on K12LTSP 5.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1157215214.44f9b3ee40d1b@www.msad41.us> <56782.70.33.151.214.1157244044.squirrel@webmail.midmaine.com> <1157261729.21875.22.camel@bofh.ltsp> Message-ID: <1157305044.13839.6.camel@ltsp2.bofh2> On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 10:04 -0700, Eric Harrison wrote: > Did you do a "yum install mondo" or did you install the packages > from mondorescue.org? > the mondo packages on K12LTSP 5.0 and stuck them here: > > ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/testing/mondo/ I initially installed it from yum(ex). In trying to later install from mondorescue.org, it says K12LTSP's ver is newer: package mondo-2.10-1.k12ltsp.0.4.1 (which is newer than mondo-2.0.9-2.fc5) is already installed and I see on the FTP that it's now mondo-2.10-2.k12ltsp.5.0.0 I'm getting the RPM's now, but have to leave soon (camping on the Missouri River this afternoon and tonight), but I will assuredly test them tomorrow. Thanks! Scott S. From ssanders at coin.org Sun Sep 3 18:12:08 2006 From: ssanders at coin.org (ssanders at coin.org) Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 13:12:08 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Mondo Archive on K12LTSP 5.0 -Success In-Reply-To: References: <1157215214.44f9b3ee40d1b@www.msad41.us> <56782.70.33.151.214.1157244044.squirrel@webmail.midmaine.com> <1157261729.21875.22.camel@bofh.ltsp> Message-ID: <1157307128.13839.12.camel@ltsp2.bofh2> On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 10:04 -0700, Eric Harrison wrote: > I have not tested them, so I'm not sure if they'll fix the problems > you are seeing or not. If they do work, let me know and I'll add > them to the yum repository. Well, like any geek I couldn't wait until tomorrow to find out... It ran just fine, I created an ISO image of a small directory to test, no errors anywhere. I was curious if I might run into problems with the mish-mash of libnewt, libslang and Mindi kernels I had manually loaded, but apparently not! The van is loaded, wife is tapping her foot, I have to go. Thanks for the info, and while I haven't done a restore from it yet, I would say that it looks good, as far as including it in the main repos. TOMORROW I'll stream it to tape to test that... thx ss From eharrison at mail.mesd.k12.or.us Sun Sep 3 22:35:43 2006 From: eharrison at mail.mesd.k12.or.us (Eric Harrison) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [K12OSN] setting gnome-screensaver to blank-only Message-ID: The default setting for K12LTSP installs should be for the screen saver to just blank the screen. It is a big waste of bandwidth and cpu to have all of the terminals running some fancy screen saver. In K12LTSP 5.0, the default is to use gnome-screensaver rather than xscreensaver that was used in previous versions. I missed adding the configuration change required to set gnome-screensaver to blank-only by default. I'll fix this in the next update, but in the meantime you can run this command to set gnome-screensaver to blank-only by default: gconftool-2 --direct --config-source \ xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults \ --type string --set /apps/gnome-screensaver/mode blank-only -Eric From mel at melwade.com Mon Sep 4 00:54:27 2006 From: mel at melwade.com (Mel Wade) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:54:27 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] PnPACPI Error Message-ID: <43080f460609031754r5a5ad69eob5e620ef79cbce9a@mail.gmail.com> I've installed Fedora and get this error on boot: PnPACPI: METHOD_NAME__CRS failure for PNP0c02Any clues... -- Mel Wade "The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do." - BF Skinner www.melwade.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarar at gmail.com Mon Sep 4 03:54:08 2006 From: sbarar at gmail.com (Sudev Barar) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:24:08 +0530 Subject: [K12OSN] edit global settings for preferences for all users? In-Reply-To: <20060903110136.26845.qmail@web32804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <000001c6c34f$67ddce20$4000a8c0@themm> <20060903110136.26845.qmail@web32804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <774593a20609032054j3be20f7flc1befd73b5d72471@mail.gmail.com> On 03/09/06, Rob Owens wrote: > For settings that fall more under "user preferences", > such as desktop background, default settings for > OpenOffice (or other programs), you'll find a "dot > file" in each user's home directory for just about > every application on the system. For instance, there > will be a .openoffice file or folder, a .gimp file or > folder, etc. (sometimes the version number is > included, such as .openoffice2 or .gimp-2.2). You can > copy user1's .openoffice folder to user2's home > directory and that transfers user1's settings to > user2. (You need to make sure that you give user2 > ownership of his new .openoffice folder like this: > chown -R user2.user2 .openoffice) Better still make settings for one user and then copy these files as root #cp /home/user1/.* /etc/skel/. Thereafter all new users that you make will have these settings "imported" with proper permissions to thier home directory. Of course Rob's way works if you need to "tune" behaviour for existing users. -- Regards, Sudev Barar From thepiano at telenet.be Mon Sep 4 07:26:30 2006 From: thepiano at telenet.be (Kevin Verheyen) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:26:30 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 4.2.4EL planning... how stable? In-Reply-To: <9bd317560609020849j2c065119i537d6ec7459f44c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <44F85A1F.1040904@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> <9bd317560609020849j2c065119i537d6ec7459f44c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <779AF081-E7D2-429A-8F69-225461AC5D8C@telenet.be> Speaking for belgian users (speaking for me offcourse ;-) an update for openoffice to 2.X would be wonderfull too, as the belgian governement has adopted ODF as standard documentation format. Kevin Op 2-sep-06, om 17:49 heeft Peter Hartmann het volgende geschreven: > I'd like the new features but wouldn't mind being able to boot and use > the old tree if things didn't work out right off the bat client-side. > But I don't know if that would be complicated to automate. > > Thanks Eric > > > -Peter > > On 9/1/06, Eric Harrison wrote: >> >> CentOS 4.4 has been released & I've started work on K12LTSP 4.2.4EL. >> >> The question is how stable should the stable branch be? >> >> >> There are a half-dozen end-user applications that can be updated. >> These >> would be essentially back-ports from FC5 (K12LTSP 5.0). Does anyone >> using K12LTSP 4.2EL have concerns about bumping up to the >> latest-and-greatest of any of these packages? >> >> >> Package Name K12LTSP 4.2.3EL version Latest version >> ------------ ------------------------ --------------------------- >> blender 2.37-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 2.42-6.fc5 >> celestia 1.3.2-3.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 1.4.1-5.fc5 >> childsplay 0.81.1-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.83-1.fc5 >> DansGuardian 2.7.6-7.k12ltsp.0.4.0 2.9.7.1-0.k12ltsp.0.5.0.0 >> gcompris 7.1.1-4.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 7.4-13.fc5 >> inkscape 0.43-1.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.44-4.fc5 >> tuxmath 0.2001.9.7-0103 0.2005.10.11-0 >> >> >> >> The real big question is whether or not to switch from LTSP 4.1 to >> LTSP >> 4.2? This is not an insignificant change, considering that the kernel >> for the terminals is changed from a 2.4 kernel to a 2.6 kernel. >> >> Considering that a "stable" branch should favor stability over >> shiny new >> features, I am currently leaning towards leaving K12LTSP 4.2.4EL with >> the older LTSP 4.1 packages. This is largely a question with >> upgrades, >> so I'd like to hear from those of you currently running K12LTSP >> 4.2.3EL. >> Are the new features in LTSP 4.2 (largely improved USB/CD/floppy >> support) worth the risk of potentially breaking some of your >> terminals? >> >> >> -Eric >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From yorick at xtra.co.nz Mon Sep 4 09:55:02 2006 From: yorick at xtra.co.nz (Graham) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:55:02 +1200 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 4.2.4EL planning... how stable? In-Reply-To: <779AF081-E7D2-429A-8F69-225461AC5D8C@telenet.be> References: <44F85A1F.1040904@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> <9bd317560609020849j2c065119i537d6ec7459f44c1@mail.gmail.com> <779AF081-E7D2-429A-8F69-225461AC5D8C@telenet.be> Message-ID: <44FBF7F6.3000209@xtra.co.nz> Kevin Verheyen wrote: > Speaking for belgian users (speaking for me offcourse ;-) an update > for openoffice to 2.X would be wonderfull too, as the belgian > governement has adopted ODF as standard documentation format. > > Kevin > Is there any reason you can't download and install OOo from the OOo download mirrors 2.03 is on the mirrors at the moment and 2.04 will be up in a few weeks Cheers GL -- "GET LEGAL - GET OPENOFFICE.ORG" http://why.openoffice.org ISO 26300 compliant Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Office Technologies) www.theingots.org.nz From thepiano at telenet.be Mon Sep 4 10:04:12 2006 From: thepiano at telenet.be (Kevin Verheyen) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:04:12 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 4.2.4EL planning... how stable? In-Reply-To: <44FBF7F6.3000209@xtra.co.nz> References: <44F85A1F.1040904@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> <9bd317560609020849j2c065119i537d6ec7459f44c1@mail.gmail.com> <779AF081-E7D2-429A-8F69-225461AC5D8C@telenet.be> <44FBF7F6.3000209@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: No, Off course I can, I was just wondering if it could be part of the default distribution as it is a valuable update, no? kevin Op 4-sep-06, om 11:55 heeft Graham het volgende geschreven: > Kevin Verheyen wrote: >> Speaking for belgian users (speaking for me offcourse ;-) an update >> for openoffice to 2.X would be wonderfull too, as the belgian >> governement has adopted ODF as standard documentation format. >> >> Kevin >> > > Is there any reason you can't download and install OOo from the OOo > download mirrors > 2.03 is on the mirrors at the moment and 2.04 will be up in a few > weeks > > Cheers > GL > > -- > "GET LEGAL - GET OPENOFFICE.ORG" > http://why.openoffice.org > ISO 26300 compliant > > Graham Lauder, > OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ > http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html > > INGOTs Assessor Trainer > (International Grades in Office Technologies) > www.theingots.org.nz > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From robark at gmail.com Mon Sep 4 15:26:52 2006 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:26:52 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 4.2.4EL planning... how stable? In-Reply-To: <779AF081-E7D2-429A-8F69-225461AC5D8C@telenet.be> References: <44F85A1F.1040904@mail.mesd.k12.or.us> <9bd317560609020849j2c065119i537d6ec7459f44c1@mail.gmail.com> <779AF081-E7D2-429A-8F69-225461AC5D8C@telenet.be> Message-ID: On 9/4/06, Kevin Verheyen wrote: > > Speaking for belgian users (speaking for me offcourse ;-) an update > for openoffice to 2.X would be wonderfull too, as the belgian > governement has adopted ODF as standard documentation format. Centos 4.4 includes an update to OOo 1.1.5 which includes read support for ODF. I don't think you can save though. But 2.0 can read the old format. Kevin > > Op 2-sep-06, om 17:49 heeft Peter Hartmann het volgende geschreven: > > > I'd like the new features but wouldn't mind being able to boot and use > > the old tree if things didn't work out right off the bat client-side. > > But I don't know if that would be complicated to automate. > > > > Thanks Eric > > > > > > -Peter > > > > On 9/1/06, Eric Harrison wrote: > >> > >> CentOS 4.4 has been released & I've started work on K12LTSP 4.2.4EL. > >> > >> The question is how stable should the stable branch be? > >> > >> > >> There are a half-dozen end-user applications that can be updated. > >> These > >> would be essentially back-ports from FC5 (K12LTSP 5.0). Does anyone > >> using K12LTSP 4.2EL have concerns about bumping up to the > >> latest-and-greatest of any of these packages? > >> > >> > >> Package Name K12LTSP 4.2.3EL version Latest version > >> ------------ ------------------------ --------------------------- > >> blender 2.37-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 2.42-6.fc5 > >> celestia 1.3.2-3.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 1.4.1-5.fc5 > >> childsplay 0.81.1-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.83-1.fc5 > >> DansGuardian 2.7.6-7.k12ltsp.0.4.0 2.9.7.1-0.k12ltsp.0.5.0.0 > >> gcompris 7.1.1-4.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 7.4-13.fc5 > >> inkscape 0.43-1.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.44-4.fc5 > >> tuxmath 0.2001.9.7-0103 0.2005.10.11-0 > >> > >> > >> > >> The real big question is whether or not to switch from LTSP 4.1 to > >> LTSP > >> 4.2? This is not an insignificant change, considering that the kernel > >> for the terminals is changed from a 2.4 kernel to a 2.6 kernel. > >> > >> Considering that a "stable" branch should favor stability over > >> shiny new > >> features, I am currently leaning towards leaving K12LTSP 4.2.4EL with > >> the older LTSP 4.1 packages. This is largely a question with > >> upgrades, > >> so I'd like to hear from those of you currently running K12LTSP > >> 4.2.3EL. > >> Are the new features in LTSP 4.2 (largely improved USB/CD/floppy > >> support) worth the risk of potentially breaking some of your > >> terminals? > >> > >> > >> -Eric > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> K12OSN mailing list > >> K12OSN at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > >> For more info see > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada Fl_TeacherTool http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/ C++ GUI tutorial http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Moodle: "Moodle is a course management system (CMS) - a free, Open Source software package designed using sound pedagogical principles, to help educators create effective online learning communities." http://moodle.org/ Plone: "Plone is a user-friendly powerful content management system - ideal as an intranet and extranet server, as a document publishing system, a portal server and as a groupware tool for collaboration between separately located entities." http://plone.org/products/plone Plone is a general purpose content management system, while Moodle is especially geared towards course management. Nils Breunese. From julius at turtle.com Mon Sep 4 18:28:37 2006 From: julius at turtle.com (Julius Szelagiewicz) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [K12OSN] where do I increase maxsessions? Message-ID: Dear Folks, I am happily running K12 v5 in production at one site. Everything was hunky-dory until I got the "max sessions exceeded" message. The old good xdm and gdm dirs with their config files don't have this parameter any more. Where is it hiding now? Thank you, julius From mel at melwade.com Mon Sep 4 19:46:56 2006 From: mel at melwade.com (Mel Wade) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:46:56 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Blank Screen Message-ID: <43080f460609041246n2e4b9901i343ad04583ad04db@mail.gmail.com> I got my previous problem solved. Now I'm getting a black blank screen the initialization/bootup screen. I can't see any login, etc. -- Mel Wade "The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do." - BF Skinner www.melwade.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kdanb at kdanb.com Mon Sep 4 21:01:34 2006 From: kdanb at kdanb.com (Daniel Button) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:01:34 -0400 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 4.2.4EL planning... how stable?] Message-ID: <44FC942E.4040100@kdanb.com> Eric, I am running K12LTSP 4.2.x now. I would love to see the new LTSP 4.2 software. I looking to upgrade clients. They would need to have better USB support for the CD/Floppy (storage stuff) as well as sound. My vote would be to upgrade or give me a way to upgrade to it. Fl_TeacherTool looks interesting. I need to check it out and try it! Thanks for your work!!! Dan Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 09:04:47 -0700 From: Eric Harrison Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 4.2.4EL planning... how stable? To: "Support list for opensource software in schools." Message-ID: <44F85A1F.1040904 at mail.mesd.k12.or.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 CentOS 4.4 has been released & I've started work on K12LTSP 4.2.4EL. The question is how stable should the stable branch be? There are a half-dozen end-user applications that can be updated. These would be essentially back-ports from FC5 (K12LTSP 5.0). Does anyone using K12LTSP 4.2EL have concerns about bumping up to the latest-and-greatest of any of these packages? Package Name K12LTSP 4.2.3EL version Latest version ------------ ------------------------ --------------------------- blender 2.37-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 2.42-6.fc5 celestia 1.3.2-3.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 1.4.1-5.fc5 childsplay 0.81.1-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.83-1.fc5 DansGuardian 2.7.6-7.k12ltsp.0.4.0 2.9.7.1-0.k12ltsp.0.5.0.0 gcompris 7.1.1-4.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 7.4-13.fc5 inkscape 0.43-1.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.44-4.fc5 tuxmath 0.2001.9.7-0103 0.2005.10.11-0 The real big question is whether or not to switch from LTSP 4.1 to LTSP 4.2? This is not an insignificant change, considering that the kernel for the terminals is changed from a 2.4 kernel to a 2.6 kernel. Considering that a "stable" branch should favor stability over shiny new features, I am currently leaning towards leaving K12LTSP 4.2.4EL with the older LTSP 4.1 packages. This is largely a question with upgrades, so I'd like to hear from those of you currently running K12LTSP 4.2.3EL. Are the new features in LTSP 4.2 (largely improved USB/CD/floppy support) worth the risk of potentially breaking some of your terminals? -Eric From veewee77 at alltel.net Mon Sep 4 22:33:08 2006 From: veewee77 at alltel.net (Doug Simpson) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:33:08 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 4.2.4EL planning... how stable? In-Reply-To: <20060902105227.16037.qmail@web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060902105227.16037.qmail@web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44FCA9A4.7000102@alltel.net> Along these lines. . . I updated 4 servers two weeks before school started and every one of them got hacked right after that. . .I still don't have them all back working again after re-installing them. they had been running rock solid over a year and two of them longer than that with little to no upgrades. I figured newer would be better and more secure. . . WRONG! I will not make that mistake again! I DO NOT recommend automated updates at all Doug Rob Owens wrote: >I currently don't use the EL branch, but I say >stability should be its main focus. Keep all those >new packages out of it. Perhaps make the newer >packages available in another repository, in case >anybody wants to experiment. But I think the EL users >need to be able to turn on automatic nightly yum >updates without worry of breaking something. > >I do nightly yum updates on my CentOS web server and >don't have any problems. I'd be real concerned about >doing that with Fedora. Dropping new packages into >K12LTSP 4.2EL would be blurring the line too much >between Fedora and CentOS. > >-Rob > >--- Eric Harrison >wrote: > > > >>CentOS 4.4 has been released & I've started work on >>K12LTSP 4.2.4EL. >> >>The question is how stable should the stable branch >>be? >> >> >>There are a half-dozen end-user applications that >>can be updated. These >>would be essentially back-ports from FC5 (K12LTSP >>5.0). Does anyone >>using K12LTSP 4.2EL have concerns about bumping up >>to the >>latest-and-greatest of any of these packages? >> >> >>Package Name K12LTSP 4.2.3EL version Latest >>version >>------------ ------------------------ >>--------------------------- >>blender 2.37-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 2.42-6.fc5 >>celestia 1.3.2-3.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 1.4.1-5.fc5 >>childsplay 0.81.1-2.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.83-1.fc5 >>DansGuardian 2.7.6-7.k12ltsp.0.4.0 >>2.9.7.1-0.k12ltsp.0.5.0.0 >>gcompris 7.1.1-4.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 7.4-13.fc5 >>inkscape 0.43-1.k12ltsp.4.2.2EL 0.44-4.fc5 >>tuxmath 0.2001.9.7-0103 >>0.2005.10.11-0 >> >> >> >>The real big question is whether or not to switch >>from LTSP 4.1 to LTSP >>4.2? This is not an insignificant change, >>considering that the kernel >>for the terminals is changed from a 2.4 kernel to a >>2.6 kernel. >> >>Considering that a "stable" branch should favor >>stability over shiny new >>features, I am currently leaning towards leaving >>K12LTSP 4.2.4EL with >>the older LTSP 4.1 packages. This is largely a >>question with upgrades, >>so I'd like to hear from those of you currently >>running K12LTSP 4.2.3EL. >>Are the new features in LTSP 4.2 (largely improved >>USB/CD/floppy >>support) worth the risk of potentially breaking some >>of your terminals? >> >> >>-Eric >> >>_______________________________________________ >>K12OSN mailing list >>K12OSN at redhat.com >>https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >>For more info see >> >> >> > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >K12OSN mailing list >K12OSN at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >For more info see > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les at futuresource.com Mon Sep 4 23:46:05 2006 From: les at futuresource.com (Les Mikesell) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 18:46:05 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 4.2.4EL planning... how stable? In-Reply-To: <44FCA9A4.7000102@alltel.net> References: <20060902105227.16037.qmail@web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FCA9A4.7000102@alltel.net> Message-ID: <1157413565.8928.7.camel@les-home.futuresource.com> On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 17:33, Doug Simpson wrote: > Along these lines. . . > > I updated 4 servers two weeks before school started and every one of > them got hacked right after that. . .I still don't have them all back > working again after re-installing them. they had been running rock > solid over a year and two of them longer than that with little to no > upgrades. I figured newer would be better and more secure. . . > WRONG! I will not make that mistake again! > > I DO NOT recommend automated updates at all I wouldn't do automatic updates either, but I do update often and am not aware of any recent new Centos vulnerabilities. Do you have any idea what happened? -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com From bert.rolston at clear.net.nz Tue Sep 5 01:42:06 2006 From: bert.rolston at clear.net.nz (Bert Rolston) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:42:06 +1200 Subject: [K12OSN] SSHFS and Open Office - two separate issues Message-ID: <1157420526.3286.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi folks, Thanks for the help with SMB4K, sshfs, and accessing file on my SAMBA server from my Linux desktop. I've just about got it all working the way I want. I've gone with sshfs because it allows the file system access that I want. Unfortunately I can't get it to force user ID's the way SAMBA does. Which leads to my first question - "How do you force the user to be someone else when a file is created while accessing files using sshfs, e.g. bert is the user that logs in and accesses a file in public folder, but all files should remain user=public, group=public?" My second question is how to automate the sshfs connection process, so that it sort of simulates a login script, and automagically mounts the server folders into my local file system? I've tried generating a public/private key, but it isn't working. =============================== PART TWO Upon further investigation, I have found that I CAN open some files across the network using KONQUEROR / FISH. Scribus files are O.K. but the graphics links are messed up, even though the graphic is in the same folder as the document. I can open and modify KDISSERT file without any problems. BUT............. When I try to work on an Open Office document OO will start to load then times out. Does the speed of my network effect OO. I'm cash strapped, so I am using an old 10 meg hub. We only have 3 workstations and the server on the network. I also load over 200 fonts on my machine, could this be a factor? I need to resolve these issues by Friday. I receive the list mail in digest form, so if you could reply directly to me as well as the list I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Bert From jonathan at ubuntu.com Tue Sep 5 09:30:25 2006 From: jonathan at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Carter) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:30:25 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] Ubuntu & Edubuntu : Canonical Education Programme Manager - Personal Introduction In-Reply-To: <1156949998.5350.230.camel@localhost> References: <1156949998.5350.230.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1157448625.5802.56.camel@megabook> On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 16:59 +0200, Richard Weideman wrote: > Please feel free to mail me directly with queries or questions, or to > cc me on Ubuntu related posts to this list. > > While I am digging through old posts to get up to speed, please resend > anything that is still unresolved to me directly. Welcome to the list, Richard :) -Jonathan From mblinn at peopleplaces.org Tue Sep 5 11:52:29 2006 From: mblinn at peopleplaces.org (Michael Blinn) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 07:52:29 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] K12 Gnome hanging during startup In-Reply-To: <774944384.1157146029635.JavaMail.root@fepweb06> References: <774944384.1157146029635.JavaMail.root@fepweb06> Message-ID: <44FD64FD.9060705@peopleplaces.org> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mblinn at peopleplaces.org Tue Sep 5 12:00:53 2006 From: mblinn at peopleplaces.org (Michael Blinn) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 08:00:53 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Blank Screen In-Reply-To: <43080f460609041246n2e4b9901i343ad04583ad04db@mail.gmail.com> References: <43080f460609041246n2e4b9901i343ad04583ad04db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44FD66F5.6090908@peopleplaces.org> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petre at maltzen.net Tue Sep 5 13:32:55 2006 From: petre at maltzen.net (Petre Scheie) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 08:32:55 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] SSHFS and Open Office - two separate issues In-Reply-To: <1157420526.3286.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1157420526.3286.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <44FD7C87.6010202@maltzen.net> Bert Rolston wrote: > Hi folks, > > Thanks for the help with SMB4K, sshfs, and accessing file on my SAMBA > server from my Linux desktop. > > I've just about got it all working the way I want. > > I've gone with sshfs because it allows the file system access that I > want. Unfortunately I can't get it to force user ID's the way SAMBA > does. Which leads to my first question - > > "How do you force the user to be someone else when a file is created > while accessing files using sshfs, e.g. bert is the user that logs in > and accesses a file in public folder, but all files should remain > user=public, group=public?" > > My second question is how to automate the sshfs connection process, so > that it sort of simulates a login script, and automagically mounts the > server folders into my local file system? I've tried generating a > public/private key, but it isn't working. > You're on the right track: After you generate the public/private keys as bert, copy the public key to to user's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file. Be sure the permissions on /home/user and /home/user/.ssh are set to 700 and /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys are set to 600. Then, as user bert, you run the following: sshfs user at remotehost:/path/to/directory /home/bert/mountpoint Since you're attaching as user, all the files you create & modify on the remote host should be owned by user. As for the group permisssions, set the group sticky bit on the directory on the remote host. To 'automate' this, just put it in /etc/fstab. It will stay up all the time rather than being unmounted when the user logs out, but since it's just an ssh session, that shouldn't really be an issue (and it won't actually be doing anything when bert is not logged in). The syntax for the fstab file is like this: sshfs#USERNAME at REMOTE_HOST:REMOTE_PATH MOUNT_POINT fuse SSHFS_OPTIONS 0 0 See the sshfs FAQ page for some examples at http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/SshfsFaq HTH Petre From petre at maltzen.net Tue Sep 5 13:38:49 2006 From: petre at maltzen.net (Petre Scheie) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 08:38:49 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] SSHFS and Open Office - two separate issues In-Reply-To: <44FD7C87.6010202@maltzen.net> References: <1157420526.3286.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44FD7C87.6010202@maltzen.net> Message-ID: <44FD7DE9.4020502@maltzen.net> Petre Scheie wrote: > Bert Rolston wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> Thanks for the help with SMB4K, sshfs, and accessing file on my SAMBA >> server from my Linux desktop. >> >> I've just about got it all working the way I want. >> I've gone with sshfs because it allows the file system access that I >> want. Unfortunately I can't get it to force user ID's the way SAMBA >> does. Which leads to my first question - >> >> "How do you force the user to be someone else when a file is created >> while accessing files using sshfs, e.g. bert is the user that logs in >> and accesses a file in public folder, but all files should remain >> user=public, group=public?" >> >> My second question is how to automate the sshfs connection process, so >> that it sort of simulates a login script, and automagically mounts the >> server folders into my local file system? I've tried generating a >> public/private key, but it isn't working. >> > You're on the right track: After you generate the public/private keys as > bert, copy the public key to to user's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file. Be > sure the permissions on /home/user and /home/user/.ssh are set to 700 > and /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys are set to 600. Then, as user bert, > you run the following: > > sshfs user at remotehost:/path/to/directory /home/bert/mountpoint > > Since you're attaching as user, all the files you create & modify on the > remote host should be owned by user. As for the group permisssions, set > the group sticky bit on the directory on the remote host. > > To 'automate' this, just put it in /etc/fstab. It will stay up all the > time rather than being unmounted when the user logs out, but since it's > just an ssh session, that shouldn't really be an issue (and it won't > actually be doing anything when bert is not logged in). The syntax for > the fstab file is like this: > > sshfs#USERNAME at REMOTE_HOST:REMOTE_PATH MOUNT_POINT fuse SSHFS_OPTIONS 0 0 > > See the sshfs FAQ page for some examples at > http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/SshfsFaq > > HTH > > Petre > I just noticed I made a mistake in my explanation that muddies everything. The example syntax should read sshfs public at remotehost:/home/public /home/bert/mountpoint IOW, user bert connects to the remote box using the ID 'public' (not 'user' as I originally wrote). Petre From mel at melwade.com Tue Sep 5 13:42:54 2006 From: mel at melwade.com (Mel Wade) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 06:42:54 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Blank Screen In-Reply-To: <44FD66F5.6090908@peopleplaces.org> References: <43080f460609041246n2e4b9901i343ad04583ad04db@mail.gmail.com> <44FD66F5.6090908@peopleplaces.org> Message-ID: <43080f460609050642o6df706b9k8ac1a547a0b9d4f5@mail.gmail.com> Thanks. I'll have to try that. I finally got it to work after reinstalling a couple times and trying different screen res settings. Now the login is a bad resoultion, but I think your idea will help. Mel On 9/5/06, Michael Blinn wrote: > > I had this problem and it stayed until I specifically set my login > handler to xdm. I think I did this with a 'system-config-' command after > booting to 'shell' but I cannot recall which one. Has anyone else seen this > problem? > -Michael > > Mel Wade wrote: > > I got my previous problem solved. Now I'm getting a black blank screen > the initialization/bootup screen. I can't see any login, etc. > > -- > Mel Wade > "The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do." - BF > Skinner > www.melwade.com > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.comhttps://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > > -- > > If this is my day of harvest, in what fields have I sowed the seed, and in > what unremembered seasons? > - Kahlil Gibran > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message, and any attachments that may > accompany it, contain information that is intended for the use of the > individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information > that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise exempt from disclosure under > applicable law. 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On my K12LTSP 5 box, I've got these drivers: /lib/modules/2.6.17-1.2157_FC5/kernel/drivers/net/e1000 /lib/modules/2.6.17-1.2174_FC5/kernel/drivers/net/e1000 Does your system not have these? Petre Mel Wade wrote: > I'm now trying to compile the network driver for my systems (Intel - > e1000). > > The first error was that the kernel source was missing. So I figured out > how to download and install the kernel source. > > Now it is telling me that the compiler is missing. My google searches on > the topic have been non-productive. Can any of you help? > > I'm currently installing a straight Fedora Core 5 on my new server and I > plan to add K12LSTP on a VMware virtual server... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From mel at melwade.com Tue Sep 5 14:10:04 2006 From: mel at melwade.com (Mel Wade) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:10:04 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Network Driver Compile In-Reply-To: <44FD8691.2090609@peopleplaces.org> References: <43080f460609050656o19bc567cv17a4b1c37e6c306e@mail.gmail.com> <44FD8691.2090609@peopleplaces.org> Message-ID: <43080f460609050710g1080cbacvd427bfbcbd78eca8@mail.gmail.com> Hmmm... but doen't that require network/internet connectivitiy? Mel On 9/5/06, Michael Blinn wrote: > > A 'yum install gcc gcc-g++' will probably fix you right up. > -Michael > > Mel Wade wrote: > > I'm now trying to compile the network driver for my systems (Intel - > e1000). > > The first error was that the kernel source was missing. So I figured out > how to download and install the kernel source. > > Now it is telling me that the compiler is missing. My google searches on > the topic have been non-productive. Can any of you help? > > I'm currently installing a straight Fedora Core 5 on my new server and I > plan to add K12LSTP on a VMware virtual server... > > -- > Mel Wade > "The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do." - BF > Skinner > www.melwade.com > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.comhttps://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > > -- > > If this is my day of harvest, in what fields have I sowed the seed, and in > what unremembered seasons? > - Kahlil Gibran > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message, and any attachments that may > accompany it, contain information that is intended for the use of the > individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information > that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise exempt from disclosure under > applicable law. 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URL: From mel at melwade.com Tue Sep 5 14:13:05 2006 From: mel at melwade.com (Mel Wade) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:13:05 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Network Driver Compile In-Reply-To: <43080f460609050710g1080cbacvd427bfbcbd78eca8@mail.gmail.com> References: <43080f460609050656o19bc567cv17a4b1c37e6c306e@mail.gmail.com> <44FD8691.2090609@peopleplaces.org> <43080f460609050710g1080cbacvd427bfbcbd78eca8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43080f460609050713ucf8380cl59bcf32f8590616c@mail.gmail.com> I had to go with FC5-64bit due to my Xeon processors, so I'm not running the straight K12LSTP verson as my base OS.. I'm hoping that the 32bit version will work on the virtual server.... I'll check again, but I didn't see the drivers in that build. Mel On 9/5/06, Mel Wade wrote: > > Hmmm... but doen't that require network/internet connectivitiy? > > Mel > > > On 9/5/06, Michael Blinn wrote: > > > > A 'yum install gcc gcc-g++' will probably fix you right up. > > -Michael > > > > Mel Wade wrote: > > > > I'm now trying to compile the network driver for my systems (Intel - > > e1000). > > > > The first error was that the kernel source was missing. So I figured > > out how to download and install the kernel source. > > > > Now it is telling me that the compiler is missing. My google searches > > on the topic have been non-productive. Can any of you help? > > > > I'm currently installing a straight Fedora Core 5 on my new server and I > > plan to add K12LSTP on a VMware virtual server... > > > > -- > > Mel Wade > > "The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do." - > > BF Skinner > > www.melwade.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.comhttps://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > > > > > > -- > > > > If this is my day of harvest, in what fields have I sowed the seed, and > > in what unremembered seasons? > > - Kahlil Gibran > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message, and any attachments that may > > accompany it, contain information that is intended for the use of the > > individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information > > that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise exempt from disclosure under > > applicable law. 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URL: From petre at maltzen.net Tue Sep 5 14:19:50 2006 From: petre at maltzen.net (Petre Scheie) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:19:50 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Network Driver Compile In-Reply-To: <43080f460609050710g1080cbacvd427bfbcbd78eca8@mail.gmail.com> References: <43080f460609050656o19bc567cv17a4b1c37e6c306e@mail.gmail.com> <44FD8691.2090609@peopleplaces.org> <43080f460609050710g1080cbacvd427bfbcbd78eca8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44FD8786.7030603@maltzen.net> If you don't have network connectivity, then you can install it from the CDs. Under the Applications menu, choose Add/Remove Software, and select gcc within that. It will prompt you for the CDs needed. Petre Mel Wade wrote: > Hmmm... but doen't that require network/internet connectivitiy? > > Mel > > On 9/5/06, Michael Blinn wrote: >> >> A 'yum install gcc gcc-g++' will probably fix you right up. >> -Michael >> >> Mel Wade wrote: >> >> I'm now trying to compile the network driver for my systems (Intel - >> e1000). >> >> The first error was that the kernel source was missing. So I figured out >> how to download and install the kernel source. >> >> Now it is telling me that the compiler is missing. My google searches on >> the topic have been non-productive. Can any of you help? >> >> I'm currently installing a straight Fedora Core 5 on my new server and I >> plan to add K12LSTP on a VMware virtual server... >> >> -- >> Mel Wade >> "The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do." - BF >> Skinner >> www.melwade.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.comhttps://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> >> >> -- >> >> If this is my day of harvest, in what fields have I sowed the seed, >> and in >> what unremembered seasons? >> - Kahlil Gibran >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message, and any attachments that may >> accompany it, contain information that is intended for the use of the >> individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information >> that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise exempt from disclosure >> under >> applicable law. If the recipient of this message is not the intended >> recipient, any disclosure, copying, or other use of this communication or >> any of the information, which it contains is unauthorized and >> prohibited. If >> you have received this message in error, please notify the original >> sender >> by return mail and delete this message, along with any attachments, from >> your computer. Thank you. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From caldodge at gmail.com Tue Sep 5 14:51:48 2006 From: caldodge at gmail.com (Calvin Dodge) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:51:48 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] Network Driver Compile In-Reply-To: <43080f460609050713ucf8380cl59bcf32f8590616c@mail.gmail.com> References: <43080f460609050656o19bc567cv17a4b1c37e6c306e@mail.gmail.com> <44FD8691.2090609@peopleplaces.org> <43080f460609050710g1080cbacvd427bfbcbd78eca8@mail.gmail.com> <43080f460609050713ucf8380cl59bcf32f8590616c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <824a5f7a0609050751n5e088965l6b74881e7a79b51c@mail.gmail.com> On 9/5/06, Mel Wade wrote: > I had to go with FC5-64bit due to my Xeon processors, so I'm not running the > straight K12LSTP verson as my base OS.. I'm hoping that the 32bit version > will work on the virtual server.... > > I'll check again, but I didn't see the drivers in that build. There have been drivers for the Intel gigabit cards for some time. BUT ... it seems like slightly newer versions of the cards come out, and the older modules don't recognize their PCI IDs. I know this because it bit me recently - bought a couple of quiet rackmounts from abmx.com (and they ARE quiet), and the 2.6.15 kernel in the original FC5-64bit didn't recognize the addon Intel gigabit cards. After I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.17, the Intel NICs _were_ recognized. So I'd suggest upgrading the kernel, if your situation allows for it (i.e., network (or sneakernet) connectivity). Calvin From mel at melwade.com Tue Sep 5 15:08:48 2006 From: mel at melwade.com (Mel Wade) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:08:48 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Network Driver Compile In-Reply-To: <44FD8786.7030603@maltzen.net> References: <43080f460609050656o19bc567cv17a4b1c37e6c306e@mail.gmail.com> <44FD8691.2090609@peopleplaces.org> <43080f460609050710g1080cbacvd427bfbcbd78eca8@mail.gmail.com> <44FD8786.7030603@maltzen.net> Message-ID: <43080f460609050808w46c33dd2q3ee02bc9947a2144@mail.gmail.com> The fun here is that when I try that I get an error message saying something to the effect that the software list can't be accessed...? On 9/5/06, Petre Scheie wrote: > > If you don't have network connectivity, then you can install it from the > CDs. Under the > Applications menu, choose Add/Remove Software, and select gcc within > that. It will > prompt you for the CDs needed. > > -- Mel Wade "The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do." - BF Skinner www.melwade.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bear2bar at netscape.net Tue Sep 5 16:41:51 2006 From: bear2bar at netscape.net (bear2bar at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 12:41:51 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Slow performance Message-ID: <44FDA8CF.3020807@netscape.net> Hi, I've just upgraded to FC5 and find that after a couple of weeks the system performance is very slow especially with firefox, any solution? thks norbert From dwblue02 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 5 16:49:31 2006 From: dwblue02 at yahoo.com (David Whitmer) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [K12OSN] I need help with the following smbldap errors. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060905164931.80661.qmail@web31608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Krsnendu Dasa > To: Support list for open source software in schools. > Sent: Friday, September 1, 2006 11:36:57 PM > Subject: [K12OSN] I need help with the following smbldap errors. > > I want to add a new user but I am getting these errors. > What do I have to do to fix them? > > [root at k12ltsp sbin]# ./smbldap-useradd -m newuser > failed to perform search; No such object at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/smbldap_tools.pm line 374. > Error looking for next uid at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/smbldap_tools.pm line 1044. > [root at k12ltsp sbin]# ./smbldap-usershow olduser > No such object at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/smbldap_tools.pm line 772. > [root at k12ltsp sbin]# > I had something similar happen to me last week. 1) A week ago I used Matt's smbldap-installer to create and setup LDAP with Windows and Linux clients all authenticating okay. 2) I ran yumex and updated everything that was updateable. (big mistake) 3) Tried to add a user using smbldap-useradd and got an error message similar to yours. When I'd used yumex to update everything, "everything" included newer versions of smbldap-tools and various perl scripts included with Matt's installer. The update seemed to have rendered all the smbldap scripts useless. After trying (and failing) at various attempts to get the scripts working, including removing the various scripts updated by yum, I spent last weekend completely reinstalling K12LTSP v5 and then re-running smbldap-installer. Lesson learned the hard way: Don't let yum (or yumex) update anything related smbldap. It's likely that someone more knowledgeable could have corrected the smbldap setup without having to resort to reinstalling everything. I certainly chose a drastic solution. But if nothing else, I had just enough time to do a reinstallation before school was set to start (which actually happened today). 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Petre bear2bar at netscape.net wrote: > Hi, > > I've just upgraded to FC5 and find that after a couple of weeks the > system performance is very slow especially with firefox, any solution? > > thks > norbert > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From jkinney at localnetsolutions.com Tue Sep 5 17:13:25 2006 From: jkinney at localnetsolutions.com (James P. Kinney III) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:13:25 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Slow performance In-Reply-To: <44FDA8CF.3020807@netscape.net> References: <44FDA8CF.3020807@netscape.net> Message-ID: <1157476405.6254.165.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> Firefox has very aggressive page caching. That will consume RAM over time. Each ta has a full page cache in history for fast navigation using the back and forward buttons. Try running a cron job that stops all firefox apps every night. There was a thread here earlier about setting the cache to be much smaller. I tested that and it didn't seem to make much of a difference. It need to be applied to all users to gain benefits. set browser.sessionhistory.max_total_viewers to "0" using the about:config and then save the ~/.mozilla/firefox/default/preferences.js file into the /etc/skel directory for new users and push out to all existing users. Be sure firefox is not running first. On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 12:41 -0400, bear2bar at netscape.net wrote: > Hi, > > I've just upgraded to FC5 and find that after a couple of weeks the > system performance is very slow especially with firefox, any solution? > > thks > norbert > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see -- James P. Kinney III CEO & Director of Engineering Local Net Solutions,LLC 770-493-8244 http://www.localnetsolutions.com GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III (M.S. Physics) Fingerprint = 3C9E 6366 54FC A3FE BA4D 0659 6190 ADC3 829C 6CA7 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jahnigl at hotmail.com Tue Sep 5 17:55:34 2006 From: jahnigl at hotmail.com (Lance Jahnig) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 12:55:34 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] where do I increase maxsessions? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >From: Julius Szelagiewicz >Reply-To: "Support list for open source software in schools." > >To: k12osn at redhat.com >Subject: [K12OSN] where do I increase maxsessions? >Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:28:37 -0400 (EDT) > >Dear Folks, > I am happily running K12 v5 in production at one site. Everything >was hunky-dory until I got the "max sessions exceeded" message. The old >good xdm and gdm dirs with their config files don't have this parameter >any more. Where is it hiding now? > Thank you, julius > Look at the following in /etc/gdm/custom.conf [xdmcp] MaxSessions=250 Enable=true in /etc/sysconfig/xinetd # Add extra options here EXTRAOPTIONS=" -limit 250" From onatawahtaw at yahoo.ca Tue Sep 5 19:10:17 2006 From: onatawahtaw at yahoo.ca (Onatawahtaw) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 12:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [K12OSN] OT: Shutdown Linux from Windows? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060905191017.63560.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, Currently I can shut down all my windows computers using psshutdown.exe (and a batch program). Is there any way I can shut down linux computers from within windows? If not, how can I shutdown remote linux computers from within linux? All the linux computers use the same root password so I would like to just put them in a shell script. Thanks, -Kevin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mrjohnlucas at gmail.com Tue Sep 5 19:19:34 2006 From: mrjohnlucas at gmail.com (John Lucas) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:19:34 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] OOo Impress crashes with LTSP v4.2 Message-ID: <200609051519.34547.MrJohnLucas@gmail.com> I have run across an annoying little "gotcha" using LTSP v4.2 (updated to latest via ltspadmin). Everything works as expected *except* when attempting to run any slide show in OOo Impress. Using Impress to create or convert a presentation works fine, you just can't view the slideshow from a diskless workstation. Once the screen clears and the first slide appears, the application closes. This only happens for diskless workstations running as X-terminals; running the same application via VNC or via X on a stand-alone (on the same server) workstation works fine. In order to narrow the problem space, I installed LTSP v4.1 and tested the same application from a diskless X-terminal works fine. This indicates to me that it is something in the kernel or on the root directory of the diskless terminal. The problem seems to be either in the LTSP kernel or Xorg server supplied with LTSP v4.2. My setup uses K12LTSP v5.0.0 (Fedora Core 5) with all updates installed and LTSP updated via ltspadmin. I have tried kernel versions 2.6.17.3 and 2.6.17.8 with the same results. Has anyone run across this problem? -- "History doesn't repeat itself; at best it rhymes." - Mark Twain | John Lucas MrJohnLucas at gmail.com | | St. Thomas, VI 00802 http://mrjohnlucas.googlepages.com/ | | 18.3?N, 65?W AST (UTC-4) | From ray at mission.lib.tx.us Tue Sep 5 19:27:37 2006 From: ray at mission.lib.tx.us (Ray Garza) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:27:37 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] /dev/dsp: No such file or Directory Message-ID: <200609051427.37157.ray@mission.lib.tx.us> I've been trying to get the sound to work on the clients but with no luck. I've determined that the sound modules to be snd-intel8x0 I've manually added it to the lts.conf in a group section by Mac address: every time I boot the client I get this at the sound section: Accepting connections on port 16001 /dev/dsp: No such file or Directory /dev/dsp: No such file or Directory and then repeats several time then continues with the booting process. I check /opt/ltsp/i386/dev and it shows three files: dsp dsp1 mixer All 0 byte's My system is K12ltsp 5.0 and LTSP 2.4 update 3 Thanks, Ray -- Coordinator of Computer Services Speer Memorial Library (956) 580-8757 ray at mission.lib.tx.us From ltsp at symbio-technologies.com Tue Sep 5 19:41:22 2006 From: ltsp at symbio-technologies.com (Gideon Romm) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:41:22 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] /dev/dsp: No such file or Directory In-Reply-To: <200609051427.37157.ray@mission.lib.tx.us> References: <200609051427.37157.ray@mission.lib.tx.us> Message-ID: <1157485282.31385.34.camel@localhost> Try adding the second sound module: SMODULE_01 = "snd-intel8x0" SMODULE_02 = "snd-pcm-oss" Also, since you are not taking advantage of ALSA, you could prolly just use the OSS driver: SMODULE_01 = "i810_audio" -Gadi On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 14:27 -0500, Ray Garza wrote: > I've been trying to get the sound to work on the clients but with no luck. > I've determined that the sound modules to be snd-intel8x0 > I've manually added it to the lts.conf in a group section by Mac address: > every time I boot the client I get this at the sound section: > > Accepting connections on port 16001 > /dev/dsp: No such file or Directory > /dev/dsp: No such file or Directory > > and then repeats several time then continues with the booting process. > > I check /opt/ltsp/i386/dev and it shows three files: > dsp > dsp1 > mixer > > All 0 byte's > > My system is K12ltsp 5.0 and LTSP 2.4 update 3 > > Thanks, > Ray > -- -------------------------------------------------------- Gideon Romm | Proud LTSP Developer ltsp at symbio-technologies.com Support LTSP! Buy your hardware at: www.DisklessWorkstations.com www.DisklessThinClients.com (use coupon code: LTSP5P for 5% off thin clients from DisklessThinClients.com) From dhuckaby at paasda.org Tue Sep 5 20:00:14 2006 From: dhuckaby at paasda.org (Huck) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:00:14 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] OT: Shutdown Linux from Windows? In-Reply-To: <20060905191017.63560.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060905191017.63560.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44FDD74E.7090508@paasda.org> you can ssh into the machine...and run the 'shutdown' command. not really sure how to do that via a script...and not sure if there is an application on sourceforge maybe that someone has already written that will take a config list of servers and passwords to do this for you automagically. Putty is what I use for an ssh client in windows...downloadable here: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html --Huck Onatawahtaw wrote: > Greetings, > > Currently I can shut down all my windows computers > using psshutdown.exe (and a batch program). Is there > any way I can shut down linux computers from within > windows? > > If not, how can I shutdown remote linux computers from > within linux? All the linux computers use the same > root password so I would like to just put them in a > shell script. > > Thanks, > > -Kevin > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > From dhuckaby at paasda.org Tue Sep 5 20:01:25 2006 From: dhuckaby at paasda.org (Huck) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:01:25 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] OOo Impress crashes with LTSP v4.2 In-Reply-To: <200609051519.34547.MrJohnLucas@gmail.com> References: <200609051519.34547.MrJohnLucas@gmail.com> Message-ID: <44FDD795.1010303@paasda.org> John, I'll test on my v4.2 server and see if I get the same issue... --Huck John Lucas wrote: > I have run across an annoying little "gotcha" using LTSP v4.2 (updated to > latest via ltspadmin). Everything works as expected *except* when attempting > to run any slide show in OOo Impress. Using Impress to create or convert a > presentation works fine, you just can't view the slideshow from a diskless > workstation. Once the screen clears and the first slide appears, the > application closes. This only happens for diskless workstations running as > X-terminals; running the same application via VNC or via X on a stand-alone > (on the same server) workstation works fine. > > In order to narrow the problem space, I installed LTSP v4.1 and tested the > same application from a diskless X-terminal works fine. This indicates to me > that it is something in the kernel or on the root directory of the diskless > terminal. > > The problem seems to be either in the LTSP kernel or Xorg server supplied with > LTSP v4.2. > > My setup uses K12LTSP v5.0.0 (Fedora Core 5) with all updates installed and > LTSP updated via ltspadmin. I have tried kernel versions 2.6.17.3 and > 2.6.17.8 with the same results. > > Has anyone run across this problem? > From jon at spriggs.org.uk Tue Sep 5 20:15:38 2006 From: jon at spriggs.org.uk (Jon Spriggs) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:15:38 +0100 Subject: [K12OSN] OT: Shutdown Linux from Windows? In-Reply-To: <20060905191017.63560.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060905191017.63560.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <96df2e0b0609051315r73fa718vdea489f90b4f77f1@mail.gmail.com> Hi Kevin, I'd look into plink (part of the Putty suite) and puttygen to create public keys. You should also look into using SELinux and the sudo commands about locking down the servers so that if anyone "witnesses" the root password being entered (by shoulder surfing, or discovering the scripts), then it doesn't compromise all your servers. Regards, Jon On 05/09/06, Onatawahtaw wrote: > > Greetings, > > Currently I can shut down all my windows computers > using psshutdown.exe (and a batch program). Is there > any way I can shut down linux computers from within > windows? > > If not, how can I shutdown remote linux computers from > within linux? All the linux computers use the same > root password so I would like to just put them in a > shell script. > > Thanks, > > -Kevin > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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David Whitmer writes: >----- Original Message ---- >> From: Krsnendu Dasa >> To: Support list for open source software in schools. > >> Sent: Friday, September 1, 2006 11:36:57 PM >> Subject: [K12OSN] I need help with the following smbldap errors. >> >> I want to add a new user but I am getting these errors. >> What do I have to do to fix them? >> >> [root at k12ltsp sbin]# ./smbldap-useradd -m newuser >> failed to perform search; No such object at >/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/smbldap_tools.pm line 374. >> Error looking for next uid at >/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/smbldap_tools.pm line 1044. >> [root at k12ltsp sbin]# ./smbldap-usershow olduser >> No such object at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/smbldap_tools.pm >line 772. >> [root at k12ltsp sbin]# >> > >I had something similar happen to me last week. > >1) A week ago I used Matt's smbldap-installer to create and setup LDAP >with Windows and Linux clients all authenticating okay. >2) I ran yumex and updated everything that was updateable. (big mistake) >3) Tried to add a user using smbldap-useradd and got an error message >similar to yours. > >When I'd used yumex to update everything, "everything" included newer >versions of smbldap-tools and various perl scripts included with Matt's >installer. The update seemed to have rendered all the smbldap scripts >useless. After trying (and failing) at various attempts to get the >scripts working, including removing the various scripts updated by yum, I >spent last weekend completely reinstalling K12LTSP v5 and then re-running >smbldap-installer. > >Lesson learned the hard way: Don't let yum (or yumex) update anything >related smbldap. > >It's likely that someone more knowledgeable could have corrected the >smbldap setup without having to resort to reinstalling everything. I >certainly chose a drastic solution. But if nothing else, I had just >enough time to do a reinstallation before school was set to start (which >actually happened today). > >David Whitmer >Calvary Schools of Holland, >Michigan_______________________________________________ >K12OSN mailing list >K12OSN at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >For more info see David N. Trask Technology Teacher/Director Vassalboro Community School dtrask at vcsvikings.org (207)923-3100 From jkinney at localnetsolutions.com Tue Sep 5 20:29:50 2006 From: jkinney at localnetsolutions.com (James P. Kinney III) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:29:50 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] OOo Impress crashes with LTSP v4.2 In-Reply-To: <200609051519.34547.MrJohnLucas@gmail.com> References: <200609051519.34547.MrJohnLucas@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1157488190.6254.174.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 15:19 -0400, John Lucas wrote: > I have run across an annoying little "gotcha" using LTSP v4.2 (updated to > latest via ltspadmin). Everything works as expected *except* when attempting > to run any slide show in OOo Impress. Using Impress to create or convert a > presentation works fine, you just can't view the slideshow from a diskless > workstation. Once the screen clears and the first slide appears, the > application closes. This only happens for diskless workstations running as > X-terminals; running the same application via VNC or via X on a stand-alone > (on the same server) workstation works fine. > > In order to narrow the problem space, I installed LTSP v4.1 and tested the > same application from a diskless X-terminal works fine. This indicates to me > that it is something in the kernel or on the root directory of the diskless > terminal. > > The problem seems to be either in the LTSP kernel or Xorg server supplied with > LTSP v4.2. > > My setup uses K12LTSP v5.0.0 (Fedora Core 5) with all updates installed and > LTSP updated via ltspadmin. I have tried kernel versions 2.6.17.3 and > 2.6.17.8 with the same results. > > Has anyone run across this problem? Not with OOo Impress but with ANY app that wants to run full-screen. All of the little apps (gcompris and some others) are now tweaked on the new setup to not run full-screen. It will lock out the local console and can only be recovered by rebooting the thin client. For gcompris, we made a script to start gcompris in a window. In Impress, click on SlideShow->Slide Show Settings then select "Window" instead of default. That will make it work for the current presentation. I don't know how to make it "stick" for new ones unless the blank template is edited. But that won't stop someone from using the "default" setting manually. > -- James P. Kinney III CEO & Director of Engineering Local Net Solutions,LLC 770-493-8244 http://www.localnetsolutions.com GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III (M.S. Physics) Fingerprint = 3C9E 6366 54FC A3FE BA4D 0659 6190 ADC3 829C 6CA7 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm willing to dig a lot deeper, but need some ideas. Anyone? David N. Trask Technology Teacher/Director Vassalboro Community School dtrask at vcsvikings.org (207)923-3100 From thepiano at telenet.be Tue Sep 5 20:41:36 2006 From: thepiano at telenet.be (Kevin Verheyen) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:41:36 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] Friggin' Firefox and K12LSP v5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6B837F4F-B410-4D49-BBB6-1402DEE0B8B5@telenet.be> I had the same problem on our setup, but it seems to dissapear when I removed the old prefs, or when they are updated by the firefox app. Although this needs more testing ;-) Hanne Op 5-sep-06, om 22:40 heeft David Trask het volgende geschreven: > Ok...this is starting to drive me nuts. As the folks from Hermon > (Maine) > posted a week ago....I am having the same problem with Firefox > starting so > slowly. In fact, it's so slow that kids are clicking more than > once in > an effort to bring it up. Once loaded it runs fun....it's > launching it > that's the problem. I have a dual server setup using DHCP load > balancing > and failover and a Samba/LDAP server for authentication. With > K12LTSP v4 > and a lesser version of Firefox....there were no issues. I'm not even > sure where to look at the moment....it's almost as if it's not being > cached in memory on the server and is loading a seperate instance each > time. I'm willing to dig a lot deeper, but need some ideas. Anyone? > > David N. Trask > Technology Teacher/Director > Vassalboro Community School > dtrask at vcsvikings.org > (207)923-3100 > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From ray at mission.lib.tx.us Tue Sep 5 20:58:35 2006 From: ray at mission.lib.tx.us (Ray Garza) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:58:35 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] /dev/dsp: No such file or Directory In-Reply-To: <1157485282.31385.34.camel@localhost> References: <200609051427.37157.ray@mission.lib.tx.us> <1157485282.31385.34.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <200609051558.36038.ray@mission.lib.tx.us> On Tuesday 05 September 2006 14:41, Gideon Romm wrote: > Try adding the second sound module: > > SMODULE_01 = "snd-intel8x0" > SMODULE_02 = "snd-pcm-oss" > > Also, since you are not taking advantage of ALSA, you could prolly just > use the OSS driver: > > SMODULE_01 = "i810_audio" > > -Gadi > > On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 14:27 -0500, Ray Garza wrote: > > I've been trying to get the sound to work on the clients but with no > > luck. I've determined that the sound modules to be snd-intel8x0 > > I've manually added it to the lts.conf in a group section by Mac address: > > every time I boot the client I get this at the sound section: > > > > Accepting connections on port 16001 > > /dev/dsp: No such file or Directory > > /dev/dsp: No such file or Directory > > > > and then repeats several time then continues with the booting process. > > > > I check /opt/ltsp/i386/dev and it shows three files: > > dsp > > dsp1 > > mixer > > > > All 0 byte's > > > > My system is K12ltsp 5.0 and LTSP 2.4 update 3 > > > > Thanks, > > Ray Mucho Thanko, the 1st option worked. I no longer get the error msgs at boot up. I was still not getting sound out of TuxType but then I switched headfone plugs from the front of the PC to the back and I started to get sound! Yea!! I think the kids will like the setup. Thanks again for you help. Ray -- Coordinator of Computer Services Speer Memorial Library (956) 580-8757 ray at mission.lib.tx.us From veewee77 at alltel.net Tue Sep 5 21:46:50 2006 From: veewee77 at alltel.net (Doug Simpson) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:46:50 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 4.2.4EL planning... how stable? In-Reply-To: <1157413565.8928.7.camel@les-home.futuresource.com> References: <20060902105227.16037.qmail@web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FCA9A4.7000102@alltel.net> <1157413565.8928.7.camel@les-home.futuresource.com> Message-ID: <44FDF04A.4060001@alltel.net> Les Mikesell wrote: >On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 17:33, Doug Simpson wrote: > > >>Along these lines. . . >> >>I updated 4 servers two weeks before school started and every one of >>them got hacked right after that. . .I still don't have them all back >>working again after re-installing them. they had been running rock >>solid over a year and two of them longer than that with little to no >>upgrades. I figured newer would be better and more secure. . . >>WRONG! I will not make that mistake again! >> >>I DO NOT recommend automated updates at all >> >> > >I wouldn't do automatic updates either, but I do update >often and am not aware of any recent new Centos vulnerabilities. >Do you have any idea what happened? > > > I have no idea what happened other than that after the udatres, 4 updated servers got hacked and rootkits were installed. Different rootkits on each one with different consequences. Doug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hick518 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 5 21:58:07 2006 From: hick518 at yahoo.com (Rob Owens) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [K12OSN] OT: Shutdown Linux from Windows? In-Reply-To: <44FDD74E.7090508@paasda.org> Message-ID: <20060905215807.24101.qmail@web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You can also run Cygwin, which is a Unix-like system that runs on Windows. Once Cygwin is installed, you can use it to install OpenSSH. I assume you can also write scripts in Cygwin, but I never have. -Rob --- Huck wrote: > you can ssh into the machine...and run the > 'shutdown' command. > not really sure how to do that via a script...and > not sure if there is > an application on sourceforge maybe that someone has > already written > that will take a config list of servers and > passwords to do this for you > automagically. > > Putty is what I use for an ssh client in > windows...downloadable here: > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html > > --Huck > > Onatawahtaw wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > Currently I can shut down all my windows computers > > using psshutdown.exe (and a batch program). Is > there > > any way I can shut down linux computers from > within > > windows? > > > > If not, how can I shutdown remote linux computers > from > > within linux? All the linux computers use the same > > root password so I would like to just put them in > a > > shell script. > > > > Thanks, > > > > -Kevin > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From balmquist at mindfirestudios.com Tue Sep 5 22:06:31 2006 From: balmquist at mindfirestudios.com (Burke Almquist) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:06:31 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] OT: Shutdown Linux from Windows? In-Reply-To: <20060905191017.63560.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060905191017.63560.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <75E0320C-2958-4D83-B126-B34DFF56952C@mindfirestudios.com> This really isn't a solution from windows, but can't FL_teacher _tool do this? On Sep 5, 2006, at 2:10 PM, Onatawahtaw wrote: > Greetings, > > Currently I can shut down all my windows computers > using psshutdown.exe (and a batch program). Is there > any way I can shut down linux computers from within > windows? > > If not, how can I shutdown remote linux computers from > within linux? All the linux computers use the same > root password so I would like to just put them in a > shell script. > > Thanks, > > -Kevin > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From balmquist at mindfirestudios.com Tue Sep 5 22:13:21 2006 From: balmquist at mindfirestudios.com (Burke Almquist) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:13:21 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 4.2.4EL planning... how stable? In-Reply-To: <44FDF04A.4060001@alltel.net> References: <20060902105227.16037.qmail@web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FCA9A4.7000102@alltel.net> <1157413565.8928.7.camel@les-home.futuresource.com> <44FDF04A.4060001@alltel.net> Message-ID: I'm curious if you ran yum immediately after installing the servers. CentOS 4 is not brand new and has a number of security updates since it was first put out. I would imagine that if you were updating your previous configuration, it would actually be more secure than a fresh install of a new version. My guess is that it was hacked before the updates were done. On Sep 5, 2006, at 4:46 PM, Doug Simpson wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: >> On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 17:33, Doug Simpson wrote: >>> Along these lines. . . I updated 4 servers two weeks before >>> school started and every one of them got hacked right after >>> that. . .I still don't have them all back working again after re- >>> installing them. they had been running rock solid over a year and >>> two of them longer than that with little to no upgrades. I >>> figured newer would be better and more secure. . . WRONG! I will >>> not make that mistake again! I DO NOT recommend automated updates >>> at all >> I wouldn't do automatic updates either, but I do update often and >> am not aware of any recent new Centos vulnerabilities. Do you have >> any idea what happened? > I have no idea what happened other than that after the udatres, 4 > updated servers got hacked and rootkits were installed. Different > rootkits on each one with different consequences. > > Doug > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From jon at spriggs.org.uk Tue Sep 5 22:35:00 2006 From: jon at spriggs.org.uk (Jon Spriggs) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:35:00 +0100 Subject: [K12OSN] OT: Shutdown Linux from Windows? In-Reply-To: <20060905215807.24101.qmail@web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <44FDD74E.7090508@paasda.org> <20060905215807.24101.qmail@web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <96df2e0b0609051535n1b377d4fv97af9b2604e0227b@mail.gmail.com> Rob, In my recent experience using Cygwin and Putty to connect with OpenSSH Daemons, I've found the Putty suite to be easier to script with under Windows than Cygwin. That's not to say that Cygwin doesn't have it's place, but it's not really best used for (effectively) trivial scripting from a Windows host to a Linux or Unix server. Rgds, Jon On 05/09/06, Rob Owens wrote: > You can also run Cygwin, which is a Unix-like system > that runs on Windows. Once Cygwin is installed, you > can use it to install OpenSSH. I assume you can also > write scripts in Cygwin, but I never have. > > -Rob > > --- Huck wrote: > > > you can ssh into the machine...and run the > > 'shutdown' command. > > not really sure how to do that via a script...and > > not sure if there is > > an application on sourceforge maybe that someone has > > already written > > that will take a config list of servers and > > passwords to do this for you > > automagically. > > > > Putty is what I use for an ssh client in > > windows...downloadable here: > > > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html > > > > --Huck > > > > Onatawahtaw wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > > > Currently I can shut down all my windows computers > > > using psshutdown.exe (and a batch program). Is > > there > > > any way I can shut down linux computers from > > within > > > windows? > > > > > > If not, how can I shutdown remote linux computers > > from > > > within linux? All the linux computers use the same > > > root password so I would like to just put them in > > a > > > shell script. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > -Kevin > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > K12OSN mailing list > > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > > For more info see > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From dhuckaby at paasda.org Tue Sep 5 22:37:07 2006 From: dhuckaby at paasda.org (Huck) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:37:07 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] OT: Shutdown Linux from Windows? In-Reply-To: <96df2e0b0609051535n1b377d4fv97af9b2604e0227b@mail.gmail.com> References: <44FDD74E.7090508@paasda.org> <20060905215807.24101.qmail@web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <96df2e0b0609051535n1b377d4fv97af9b2604e0227b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44FDFC13.9080007@paasda.org> You could also do it via Webmin... --Huck Jon Spriggs wrote: > Rob, > > In my recent experience using Cygwin and Putty to connect with OpenSSH > Daemons, I've found the Putty suite to be easier to script with under > Windows than Cygwin. That's not to say that Cygwin doesn't have it's > place, but it's not really best used for (effectively) trivial > scripting from a Windows host to a Linux or Unix server. > > Rgds, > > Jon > > On 05/09/06, Rob Owens wrote: >> You can also run Cygwin, which is a Unix-like system >> that runs on Windows. Once Cygwin is installed, you >> can use it to install OpenSSH. I assume you can also >> write scripts in Cygwin, but I never have. >> >> -Rob >> >> --- Huck wrote: >> >> > you can ssh into the machine...and run the >> > 'shutdown' command. >> > not really sure how to do that via a script...and >> > not sure if there is >> > an application on sourceforge maybe that someone has >> > already written >> > that will take a config list of servers and >> > passwords to do this for you >> > automagically. >> > >> > Putty is what I use for an ssh client in >> > windows...downloadable here: >> > >> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html >> > >> > --Huck >> > >> > Onatawahtaw wrote: >> > > Greetings, >> > > >> > > Currently I can shut down all my windows computers >> > > using psshutdown.exe (and a batch program). Is >> > there >> > > any way I can shut down linux computers from >> > within >> > > windows? >> > > >> > > If not, how can I shutdown remote linux computers >> > from >> > > within linux? All the linux computers use the same >> > > root password so I would like to just put them in >> > a >> > > shell script. >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > >> > > -Kevin >> > > >> > > __________________________________________________ >> > > Do You Yahoo!? >> > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >> > protection around >> > > http://mail.yahoo.com >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > K12OSN mailing list >> > > K12OSN at redhat.com >> > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> > > For more info see >> > > >> > > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > K12OSN mailing list >> > K12OSN at redhat.com >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> > For more info see >> > >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > From veewee77 at alltel.net Tue Sep 5 22:40:09 2006 From: veewee77 at alltel.net (Doug Simpson) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:40:09 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] OT: Shutdown Linux from Windows? In-Reply-To: <20060905191017.63560.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060905191017.63560.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44FDFCC9.40209@alltel.net> Here is a possibility. . . Ping the winders box (the one from which you want to shut down the linux server) and outputs to a file. example: [server]$ ping -i 5 servername >> /pingreturns This pings the server every 5 seconds. Change the number to whatever resolution you want. Run this fron a cron job at a time a bit after you expect the winders computer to be online, say half an hour after. (or you could put it in the rc.local so it will run when the server is started, just make sure the winders one is up enough to reply to ping requests or the linux will go back down again.) Run a second cron job that runs every minute (or whatever resolution you prefer) that greps this outut file for a string stating that the pinged hosts is unreachable: grep reply /pingreturns and if it finds "reply from" then exit. If it finds "unreachable" branch and delete the /pingreturns file and then run "shutdown -h now". The grep line is the one I will need help with the syntax and it may actually have to be done in a script that would run in the cron job. What this will do is ping the winders computer. If it returns, all is well. If it is unreachable, delete the /pingreturn file (so it won't try to use it tomorrow and find "unreachable" in there and shut right back down again) and then shutdown the linux computer with: shutdown -h now in the script. Assuming this is a daily thing, you will only need to shutdown the winders one and the linux will soon follow it based on your resolution as mentioned above. I will try to play with the grep thing later and see if I can come up with a workable solution for you. Hope this is what you were looking for. Doug Onatawahtaw wrote: >Greetings, > >Currently I can shut down all my windows computers >using psshutdown.exe (and a batch program). Is there >any way I can shut down linux computers from within >windows? > >If not, how can I shutdown remote linux computers from >within linux? All the linux computers use the same >root password so I would like to just put them in a >shell script. > >Thanks, > >-Kevin > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >K12OSN mailing list >K12OSN at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >For more info see > > > From steve.hargadon at gmail.com Tue Sep 5 23:26:22 2006 From: steve.hargadon at gmail.com (Steve Hargadon) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:26:22 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Audio Webcast Interview This Week: Larry Cuban, author of "Oversold and Underused" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This Thursday evening (September 7), I'll be interviewing Larry Cuban, emeritus professor of education at Stanford, and author of "Oversold and Underused: Computers in the Classroom." The interview will start at 5:00 pm PDT, will be be one hour long, and will be webcast live with a question and answer session at the end. Links to the webcast and the concurrent chatroom are available at http://edtechlive.wikispaces.com/Upcoming+Interviews. You can also see details on upcoming interviews on Open Office (Solveig Haugland & Ben Horst), Open Source Software in Education (Eric S. Raymond & Doc Searls), and Open Source licensing (Ruth Lutes & Ragavan Srinivasan from HP). Recordings of the interview (.mp3 and .ogg) with Prof. Cuban will be available the next day. Recent interviews recordings are available at http://edtechlive.wikispaces.com/Recordings+List. Included are: * Victoria Davis and Adam Frey on "Wikis--What Are They, and Why Use Them in Education?" * Michelle Moore on "Moodle: An Open Source Learning Management System" * Mike Huffman and Laura Taylor on "Indiana's ACCESS Program: Affordable Classroom Computers for Every Secondary Student" * Daniel Howard and William Fragakis on Atlanta Public Schools' Linux Thin Client Project * Jim McQuillan and Eric Harrison on LTSP, K12LTSP, and Linux Thin Client for Schools * Dr. David Thornburg on "Free and Open Source Software in Education" Happy listening! Steve -- Steve Hargadon steve at hargadon.com 916-899-1400 direct www.SteveHargadon.com - (Blog on Educational Technology) www.K12Computers.com - (Refurbished Dell Optiplexes for Schools) www.TechnologyRescue.com - (Linux Thin Client Solutions) www.LiveKiosk.com - (Web Access and Content Delivery Solutions) www.PublicWebStations.com - (Disaster & Shelter WebStation Software) www.K12OpenSource.com (Public Wiki) www.SupportBlogging.com (Public Wiki) From krsnendu108 at gmail.com Tue Sep 5 23:29:50 2006 From: krsnendu108 at gmail.com (Krsnendu Dasa) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:29:50 +1200 Subject: [K12OSN] I need help with the following smbldap errors. In-Reply-To: References: <20060905164931.80661.qmail@web31608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: So should I just download the latest installer and run it or do need to uninstall first? On 06/09/06, David Trask wrote: > > The new smbldap-installer addresses the fact that Fedora is now packaging > smbldap-tools on their repository. You probably could have used a backup > of the database. You might have been able to download the latest > smbldap-installer....rerun the setup....deleted the old database and > restored....or it might have just worked once the new "links" to the new > locations of smbldap-tools were in place. > > David Whitmer writes: > >----- Original Message ---- > >> From: Krsnendu Dasa > >> To: Support list for open source software in schools. > > > >> Sent: Friday, September 1, 2006 11:36:57 PM > >> Subject: [K12OSN] I need help with the following smbldap errors. > >> > >> I want to add a new user but I am getting these errors. > >> What do I have to do to fix them? > >> > >> [root at k12ltsp sbin]# ./smbldap-useradd -m newuser > >> failed to perform search; No such object at > >/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/smbldap_tools.pm line 374. > >> Error looking for next uid at > >/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/smbldap_tools.pm line 1044. > >> [root at k12ltsp sbin]# ./smbldap-usershow olduser > >> No such object at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/smbldap_tools.pm > >line 772. > >> [root at k12ltsp sbin]# > >> > > > >I had something similar happen to me last week. > > > >1) A week ago I used Matt's smbldap-installer to create and setup LDAP > >with Windows and Linux clients all authenticating okay. > >2) I ran yumex and updated everything that was updateable. (big mistake) > >3) Tried to add a user using smbldap-useradd and got an error message > >similar to yours. > > > >When I'd used yumex to update everything, "everything" included newer > >versions of smbldap-tools and various perl scripts included with Matt's > >installer. The update seemed to have rendered all the smbldap scripts > >useless. After trying (and failing) at various attempts to get the > >scripts working, including removing the various scripts updated by yum, I > >spent last weekend completely reinstalling K12LTSP v5 and then re-running > >smbldap-installer. > > > >Lesson learned the hard way: Don't let yum (or yumex) update anything > >related smbldap. > > > >It's likely that someone more knowledgeable could have corrected the > >smbldap setup without having to resort to reinstalling everything. I > >certainly chose a drastic solution. But if nothing else, I had just > >enough time to do a reinstallation before school was set to start (which > >actually happened today). > > > >David Whitmer > >Calvary Schools of Holland, > >Michigan_______________________________________________ > >K12OSN mailing list > >K12OSN at redhat.com > >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > >For more info see > > > > David N. Trask > Technology Teacher/Director > Vassalboro Community School > dtrask at vcsvikings.org > (207)923-3100 > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rgm at htt-consult.com Tue Sep 5 23:43:30 2006 From: rgm at htt-consult.com (Robert Moskowitz) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:43:30 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] tar to take an image for checkpointing In-Reply-To: <20060825183001.GF14143@majen.net> References: <20060825090200.8354F73103@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <44FE0BA2.6090106@htt-consult.com> Matt Oquist wrote: >> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:19:28 -0400 >> From: "Robert Moskowitz" >> Subject: [K12OSN] Got to rebulid -- how to take an image for checkpointing >> >> So how can I take a real good snap shot of my drive. I would want >> something like GHOST where I would boot from CD and image to a USB >> harddrive or network drive.... >> > > With a (p)OS like Windows(TM), you need a "ghosting" program because > the system has loads of secret binary data that keep it from working > if you just copy the filesystem contents of the OS to another system. > Thankfully, Linux is part of the UNIX tradition and the entire system > is portable. > > 1. To create a complete, compressed, ready-to-roll system backup on a remote system: > $ cd / > $ tar czvf - / | ssh user at remotehost "cat > systembackup.tgz" This hung on /media/cdrom So I need a -T option with a file listing the desired diretories? Or is there a way to exclude directories? doing a ls -ls / produces: 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 5 10:45 bin 2 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 1024 Sep 5 10:36 boot 0 drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 5440 Sep 5 11:11 dev 16 drwxr-xr-x 83 root root 12288 Sep 5 11:11 etc 8 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Feb 21 2005 home 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 21 2005 initrd 8 drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4096 Sep 5 11:06 lib 16 drwx------ 2 root root 16384 Aug 25 08:58 lost+found 8 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Sep 5 11:11 media 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Aug 13 06:46 misc 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 21 2005 mnt 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 21 2005 opt 0 dr-xr-xr-x 94 root root 0 Sep 5 07:09 proc 8 drwxr-x--- 15 root root 4096 Sep 5 11:57 root 16 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 Sep 5 11:07 sbin 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Aug 25 12:59 selinux 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 21 2005 srv 0 drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 0 Sep 5 07:09 sys 8 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Aug 25 13:20 tftpboot 8 drwxrwxrwt 9 root root 4096 Sep 5 19:30 tmp 8 drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 Sep 5 10:40 usr 8 drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 4096 Aug 25 13:20 var From balmquist at mindfirestudios.com Tue Sep 5 23:44:00 2006 From: balmquist at mindfirestudios.com (Burke Almquist) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:44:00 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] I need help with the following smbldap errors. In-Reply-To: References: <20060905164931.80661.qmail@web31608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A2081C7-DEDC-46F4-BC4C-6BE4A978771F@mindfirestudios.com> I had the same problems about a month ago and I ended up reverting since I ended up not needing the LDAP functionality. I think it also had something to do with samba 3.0.23. On Sep 5, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Krsnendu Dasa wrote: > So should I just download the latest installer and run it or do > need to uninstall first? > > On 06/09/06, David Trask < dtrask at vcsvikings.org> wrote:The new > smbldap-installer addresses the fact that Fedora is now packaging > smbldap-tools on their repository. You probably could have used a > backup > of the database. You might have been able to download the latest > smbldap-installer....rerun the setup....deleted the old database and > restored....or it might have just worked once the new "links" to > the new > locations of smbldap-tools were in place. > > David Whitmer writes: > >----- Original Message ---- > >> From: Krsnendu Dasa > >> To: Support list for open source software in schools. > >< k12osn at redhat.com> > >> Sent: Friday, September 1, 2006 11:36:57 PM > >> Subject: [K12OSN] I need help with the following smbldap errors. > >> > >> I want to add a new user but I am getting these errors. > >> What do I have to do to fix them? > >> > >> [root at k12ltsp sbin]# ./smbldap-useradd -m newuser > >> failed to perform search; No such object at > >/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/smbldap_tools.pm line 374. > >> Error looking for next uid at > >/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/smbldap_tools.pm line 1044. > >> [root at k12ltsp sbin]# ./smbldap-usershow olduser > >> No such object at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/smbldap_tools.pm > >line 772. > >> [root at k12ltsp sbin]# > >> > > > >I had something similar happen to me last week. > > > >1) A week ago I used Matt's smbldap-installer to create and setup > LDAP > >with Windows and Linux clients all authenticating okay. > >2) I ran yumex and updated everything that was updateable. (big > mistake) > >3) Tried to add a user using smbldap-useradd and got an error message > >similar to yours. > > > >When I'd used yumex to update everything, "everything" included newer > >versions of smbldap-tools and various perl scripts included with > Matt's > >installer. The update seemed to have rendered all the smbldap > scripts > >useless. After trying (and failing) at various attempts to get the > >scripts working, including removing the various scripts updated by > yum, I > >spent last weekend completely reinstalling K12LTSP v5 and then re- > running > >smbldap-installer. > > > >Lesson learned the hard way: Don't let yum (or yumex) update anything > >related smbldap. > > > >It's likely that someone more knowledgeable could have corrected the > >smbldap setup without having to resort to reinstalling everything. I > >certainly chose a drastic solution. But if nothing else, I had just > >enough time to do a reinstallation before school was set to start > (which > >actually happened today). > > > >David Whitmer > >Calvary Schools of Holland, > >Michigan_______________________________________________ > >K12OSN mailing list > >K12OSN at redhat.com > >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > >For more info see < http://www.k12os.org> > > > > David N. Trask > Technology Teacher/Director > Vassalboro Community School > dtrask at vcsvikings.org > (207)923-3100 > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From dhuckaby at paasda.org Wed Sep 6 00:04:35 2006 From: dhuckaby at paasda.org (Huck) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:04:35 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] OT: Shutdown Linux from Windows? In-Reply-To: <44FDFCC9.40209@alltel.net> References: <20060905191017.63560.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FDFCC9.40209@alltel.net> Message-ID: <44FE1093.1050305@paasda.org> Kind of curious how you'll restart the remote linux machine after you shut it down remotely...user intervention? --Huck Doug Simpson wrote: > Here is a possibility. . . > > Ping the winders box (the one from which you want to shut down the linux > server) and outputs to a file. > > example: > [server]$ ping -i 5 servername >> /pingreturns > This pings the server every 5 seconds. Change the number to whatever > resolution you want. > Run this fron a cron job at a time a bit after you expect the winders > computer to be online, say half an hour after. (or you could put it in > the rc.local so it will run when the server is started, just make sure > the winders one is up enough to reply to ping requests or the linux will > go back down again.) > Run a second cron job that runs every minute (or whatever resolution you > prefer) that > greps this outut file for a string stating that the pinged hosts is > unreachable: > > grep reply /pingreturns and if it finds "reply from" then exit. > > If it finds "unreachable" branch and delete the /pingreturns file > and then run "shutdown -h now". > > The grep line is the one I will need help with the syntax and it may > actually have to be done in a script that would run in the cron job. > > What this will do is ping the winders computer. If it returns, all is > well. If it is unreachable, delete the /pingreturn file (so it won't try > to use it tomorrow and find "unreachable" in there and shut right back > down again) and then shutdown the linux computer with: > shutdown -h now > in the script. > > Assuming this is a daily thing, you will only need to shutdown the > winders one and the linux will soon follow it based on your resolution > as mentioned above. > > I will try to play with the grep thing later and see if I can come up > with a workable solution for you. > > Hope this is what you were looking for. > > Doug > > > > > > Onatawahtaw wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> Currently I can shut down all my windows computers >> using psshutdown.exe (and a batch program). Is there >> any way I can shut down linux computers from within >> windows? >> If not, how can I shutdown remote linux computers from >> within linux? All the linux computers use the same >> root password so I would like to just put them in a >> shell script. >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Kevin >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > From vangundypw at sau14.k12.nh.us Wed Sep 6 00:24:54 2006 From: vangundypw at sau14.k12.nh.us (Paul VanGundy) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:24:54 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] OT: Shutdown Linux from Windows? In-Reply-To: <44FE1093.1050305@paasda.org> References: <20060905191017.63560.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FDFCC9.40209@alltel.net> <44FE1093.1050305@paasda.org> Message-ID: <44FE1556.1090802@sau14.k12.nh.us> Huck, Check the BIOS. Some systems come with "Turn On" times now. -Paul Huck wrote: > Kind of curious how you'll restart the remote linux machine after you > shut it down remotely...user intervention? > > --Huck > > Doug Simpson wrote: >> Here is a possibility. . . >> >> Ping the winders box (the one from which you want to shut down the >> linux server) and outputs to a file. >> >> example: >> [server]$ ping -i 5 servername >> /pingreturns >> This pings the server every 5 seconds. Change the number to whatever >> resolution you want. >> Run this fron a cron job at a time a bit after you expect the winders >> computer to be online, say half an hour after. (or you could put it >> in the rc.local so it will run when the server is started, just make >> sure the winders one is up enough to reply to ping requests or the >> linux will go back down again.) >> Run a second cron job that runs every minute (or whatever resolution >> you prefer) that >> greps this outut file for a string stating that the pinged hosts is >> unreachable: >> >> grep reply /pingreturns and if it finds "reply from" then exit. >> >> If it finds "unreachable" branch and delete the /pingreturns file >> and then run "shutdown -h now". >> >> The grep line is the one I will need help with the syntax and it may >> actually have to be done in a script that would run in the cron job. >> >> What this will do is ping the winders computer. If it returns, all is >> well. If it is unreachable, delete the /pingreturn file (so it won't >> try to use it tomorrow and find "unreachable" in there and shut right >> back down again) and then shutdown the linux computer with: >> shutdown -h now >> in the script. >> >> Assuming this is a daily thing, you will only need to shutdown the >> winders one and the linux will soon follow it based on your >> resolution as mentioned above. >> >> I will try to play with the grep thing later and see if I can come up >> with a workable solution for you. >> >> Hope this is what you were looking for. >> >> Doug >> >> >> >> >> >> Onatawahtaw wrote: >> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> Currently I can shut down all my windows computers >>> using psshutdown.exe (and a batch program). Is there >>> any way I can shut down linux computers from within >>> windows? >>> If not, how can I shutdown remote linux computers from >>> within linux? All the linux computers use the same >>> root password so I would like to just put them in a >>> shell script. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -Kevin >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> K12OSN mailing list >>> K12OSN at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >>> For more info see >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -- Paul VanGundy Director of Technology Epping School District P: 603.679.8003 x105 F: 603.679.2196 vangundypw at sau14.k12.nh.us From dhuckaby at paasda.org Wed Sep 6 01:28:29 2006 From: dhuckaby at paasda.org (Huck) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:28:29 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] OT: Shutdown Linux from Windows? In-Reply-To: <44FE1556.1090802@sau14.k12.nh.us> References: <20060905191017.63560.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FDFCC9.40209@alltel.net> <44FE1093.1050305@paasda.org> <44FE1556.1090802@sau14.k12.nh.us> Message-ID: <44FE243D.8000504@paasda.org> That's killer...odd...but killer ;) why would you have a 'turn on' time in the bios but not a 'turn off' time? that being said, why couldn't you have a cron job set to turn off the machine every Friday at 7pm for example? then have your BIOS 'turn on' Monday at 5am? if you are looking for weekend downtime? Not sure of the reasoning for the 'remote shutdown' but seems a cron job would do the trick without the need to script anything. /sbin/shutdown -h