From guy.vandenbergh at icts.kuleuven.be Sat Oct 1 19:51:11 2011 From: guy.vandenbergh at icts.kuleuven.be (Guy Van Den Bergh) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 21:51:11 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] ldm azerty keyboard layout In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, The server is rhel6.1 For the client we use Scientific Linux release 6.1 (Carbon) I can't change the keyboard layout to azerty for the ldm loginprompt. I tried different settings but non of them give's me an azerty. Once logged in the layout is azerty Can somebody tell me how to change the keyboard layout for the login prompt? from /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf /etc/ltsp/ldm-global-dmrc = empty LDM_GLOBAL_DMRC=/etc/ltsp/ldm-global-dmrc XKBLAYOUT=be-latin1 I already tried different values for LDM_LANGUAGE LDM_LANGUAGE=nl_BE.utf8 LDM_LANGUAGE=nl_BE LANG=nl_BE thanks From cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us Wed Oct 5 14:46:09 2011 From: cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us (Barry Cisna) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 09:46:09 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] wireless support Message-ID: <1317825969.4142.17.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> Hello All, Has there been any advancements,,on wireless support built into the latest spin of K12LTSP that is being beta'd right now, for TC's? It seems to me at this point it is imperative to have wireless support for at least some of the tried and trued wireless 'g' and possibly 'n' wifi nics. Has anyone on the board here tried toying with TC wireless lately? Thanks, Barry From news at siddall.name Wed Oct 5 16:11:37 2011 From: news at siddall.name (Jeff Siddall) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 12:11:37 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] wireless support In-Reply-To: <1317825969.4142.17.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> References: <1317825969.4142.17.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> Message-ID: <4E8C81B9.30003@siddall.name> On 10/05/2011 10:46 AM, Barry Cisna wrote: > Hello All, > > Has there been any advancements,,on wireless support built into the > latest spin of K12LTSP that is being beta'd right now, for TC's? > It seems to me at this point it is imperative to have wireless support > for at least some of the tried and trued wireless 'g' and possibly 'n' > wifi nics. > Has anyone on the board here tried toying with TC wireless lately? I would generally consider WiFi inadequate for LTSP use personally but if your requirements/expectations are modest it may work. I suspect that is why there is no support currently for WiFi clients. The bootloader (wireless equivalent to PXE -- if such a thing exists) would be where most of the work would be and that is outside the scope of LTSP. The client initrd would presumably need to know how to configure the wireless drivers to take control of the network after the bootloader has gotten the kernel and initrd to the client successfully and that presumably would fall inside the scope of LTSP. Jeff From jim.kinney at gmail.com Wed Oct 5 18:18:02 2011 From: jim.kinney at gmail.com (Jim Kinney) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:18:02 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] wireless support In-Reply-To: <1317825969.4142.17.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> References: <1317825969.4142.17.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> Message-ID: Wireless will not pxeboot. Can't and never will. Firmware loading is issue. Wireless can be used for limited ltsp if a normal kernel stack and modules are bootable. On Oct 5, 2011 10:52 AM, "Barry Cisna" wrote: > Hello All, > > Has there been any advancements,,on wireless support built into the > latest spin of K12LTSP that is being beta'd right now, for TC's? > It seems to me at this point it is imperative to have wireless support > for at least some of the tried and trued wireless 'g' and possibly 'n' > wifi nics. > Has anyone on the board here tried toying with TC wireless lately? > > Thanks, > Barry > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From genfil at gmail.com Fri Oct 7 08:17:56 2011 From: genfil at gmail.com (Jean Phil) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:17:56 +0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Support, Jean Phil has invited you to open a Gmail account Message-ID: I've been using Gmail and thought you might like to try it out. 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Did this spam get caught in a buffer > for 6 years? > > ______________________________**_________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/**mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brcisna at eazylivin.net Mon Oct 10 01:09:23 2011 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry R Cisna) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 20:09:23 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] TC's and Red 5 web server Message-ID: <1318208963.28658.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello All, This is kind of a one off observation. Has anyone done any toying with TC's and trying to view web pages built on the RED5 web server. It may be all of the TC's we have,but the performance of the TC's when viewing web pages being run on an Red5 web server,,is totally blahhh. We have several kids at school that is diving into web paging in RED5 enviormnent. I am guessing it is mostly to do with all the build in java stuff,in Red 5,,and who knows what else,,but the video performance,,is just really a slug...or could be how the network gets tanked pulling in all the java embedded,,this and that. Just an observation,,I guess. Take Care, Barry From jim.kinney at gmail.com Mon Oct 10 02:31:01 2011 From: jim.kinney at gmail.com (Jim Kinney) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 22:31:01 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] TC's and Red 5 web server In-Reply-To: <1318208963.28658.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1318208963.28658.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Java is a resource pig. I've never used red5 but earlier TC browser stuff showed java engine pages to render painfully slow on tc systems. I eventually attributed it to bandwidth starvation between tc and upstream. On Oct 9, 2011 9:12 PM, "Barry R Cisna" wrote: > Hello All, > > This is kind of a one off observation. Has anyone done any toying with > TC's and trying to view web pages built on the RED5 web server. > It may be all of the TC's we have,but the performance of the TC's when > viewing web pages being run on an Red5 web server,,is totally blahhh. > We have several kids at school that is diving into web paging in RED5 > enviormnent. > I am guessing it is mostly to do with all the build in java stuff,in Red > 5,,and who knows what else,,but the video performance,,is just really a > slug...or could be how the network gets tanked pulling in all the java > embedded,,this and that. > Just an observation,,I guess. > > Take Care, > Barry > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kent at structural-wood.com Mon Oct 17 17:02:45 2011 From: kent at structural-wood.com (Kent Schumacher) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:02:45 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Success with running LTSP from Fedora 15 Message-ID: <4E9C5FB5.1090505@structural-wood.com> I just successfully booted both an Atom based Shuttle XS35 and and an old Diskless Workstations LTSP-150 from a Fedora 15 installation. On first login I received a complaint that Gnome 3 wasn't able to run, but when that was dismissed I was left with a reasonably functional desktop. I've tried running Firefox 7.01 and LibreOffice 3.3.3 and they both work well. Firefox 7 is noticeably faster than the Firefox 3 I was running from Fedora 11 on the same hardware. The highlights of how to do it are: 1) Modify /etc/sysconfig/ltspdist to allow install on F15 2) ltsp-build-client --release 14 3) ltsp-build-client --release 11 --chroot ltsp-f11 It would be good if I didn't need to modify ltspdist. I'll write up complete instructions if anyone is interested. I'm very happy to be able to be running Fedora 15. It's nice to have the latest Firefox and LibreOffice. From puygranier.olivier at free.fr Tue Oct 18 20:30:42 2011 From: puygranier.olivier at free.fr (puygranier.olivier at free.fr) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 22:30:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [K12OSN] Success with running LTSP from Fedora 15 (Kent Schumacher) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Kent, Yes, very interrested by the complete instructions Thank you Have a nice day Olivier Puygranier ----- Mail original ----- De: k12osn-request at redhat.com ?: k12osn at redhat.com Envoy?: Mardi 18 Octobre 2011 18:00:03 Objet: K12OSN Digest, Vol 92, Issue 7 Send K12OSN mailing list submissions to k12osn at redhat.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to k12osn-request at redhat.com You can reach the person managing the list at k12osn-owner at redhat.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of K12OSN digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Success with running LTSP from Fedora 15 (Kent Schumacher) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:02:45 -0500 From: Kent Schumacher To: k12osn at redhat.com Subject: [K12OSN] Success with running LTSP from Fedora 15 Message-ID: <4E9C5FB5.1090505 at structural-wood.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I just successfully booted both an Atom based Shuttle XS35 and and an old Diskless Workstations LTSP-150 from a Fedora 15 installation. On first login I received a complaint that Gnome 3 wasn't able to run, but when that was dismissed I was left with a reasonably functional desktop. I've tried running Firefox 7.01 and LibreOffice 3.3.3 and they both work well. Firefox 7 is noticeably faster than the Firefox 3 I was running from Fedora 11 on the same hardware. The highlights of how to do it are: 1) Modify /etc/sysconfig/ltspdist to allow install on F15 2) ltsp-build-client --release 14 3) ltsp-build-client --release 11 --chroot ltsp-f11 It would be good if I didn't need to modify ltspdist. I'll write up complete instructions if anyone is interested. I'm very happy to be able to be running Fedora 15. It's nice to have the latest Firefox and LibreOffice. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn End of K12OSN Digest, Vol 92, Issue 7 ************************************* From kent at structural-wood.com Tue Oct 18 21:56:59 2011 From: kent at structural-wood.com (Kent Schumacher) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:56:59 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Success with running LTSP from Fedora 15 (Kent Schumacher) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E9DF62B.3070809@structural-wood.com> OK, I'll start working on it, though it will be at least a week as I'm heading out early tomorrow for 5 days of vacation. I plan on having *several* nice days - thank you! On 10/18/2011 03:42 PM, Support list for open source software in schools. wrote: > Hello Kent, > Yes, very interrested by the complete instructions > Thank you > Have a nice day > > Olivier Puygranier > > ----- Mail original ----- > De: k12osn-request at redhat.com > ??: k12osn at redhat.com > Envoy??: Mardi 18 Octobre 2011 18:00:03 > Objet: K12OSN Digest, Vol 92, Issue 7 > > Send K12OSN mailing list submissions to > k12osn at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > k12osn-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > k12osn-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of K12OSN digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Success with running LTSP from Fedora 15 (Kent Schumacher) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:02:45 -0500 > From: Kent Schumacher > To: k12osn at redhat.com > Subject: [K12OSN] Success with running LTSP from Fedora 15 > Message-ID:<4E9C5FB5.1090505 at structural-wood.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I just successfully booted both an Atom based Shuttle XS35 and and an > old Diskless Workstations LTSP-150 from a Fedora 15 installation. > > On first login I received a complaint that Gnome 3 wasn't able to run, > but when that was dismissed I was left with a reasonably functional desktop. > > I've tried running Firefox 7.01 and LibreOffice 3.3.3 and they both work > well. Firefox 7 is noticeably faster than the Firefox 3 I was running > from Fedora 11 on the same hardware. > > The highlights of how to do it are: > > 1) Modify /etc/sysconfig/ltspdist to allow install on F15 > 2) ltsp-build-client --release 14 > 3) ltsp-build-client --release 11 --chroot ltsp-f11 > > It would be good if I didn't need to modify ltspdist. I'll write up > complete instructions if anyone is interested. > > I'm very happy to be able to be running Fedora 15. It's nice to have > the latest Firefox and LibreOffice. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > End of K12OSN Digest, Vol 92, Issue 7 > ************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From enagel at northlakechristian.org Thu Oct 20 14:24:46 2011 From: enagel at northlakechristian.org (Eric John Nagel) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:24:46 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Thin clients available Message-ID: Greetings, We have finished upgrading our library system and have our old thin clients available. I believe that there are 26 working devices and a few more that may work and some that are good for parts. They are Netier NetXpress XL 1000 models. If anyone is interested please contact me. We will donate them. -- Baruch Ata Yehovah, Elohey Yisrael, Avi ejn ovadyah teshuvah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skerr at rx30.com Thu Oct 20 17:43:59 2011 From: skerr at rx30.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:43:59 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Problems loading Kernel on new install Message-ID: <4EA05DDF.9060000@rx30.com> Hi All, Im trying to setup LTSP using the InstallGuide and running into difficulties. I installed a fresh copy of CentOS 6 on a Dell precision T3400 in a mixed network environment with my dhcp server using port 1067. I cant get into the TC console at the moment for exact specs, but its a "red faced" jammin from disklessworkstations , manufactured june 2009, flashed to work over 1067. It works with my older versions of ltsp on centos 5.4. I , think, followed the directions on the wiki carefully, didnt run into any problems or receive any error messages. When the TC is booting it appears to be detected as etherboot-5.4 and attempts to load the elf.ltsp kernel. In messages, on the server, i see DHCPDISCOVER DHCPOFFER DHCPREQUEST DHCPACK all with sane values, dhcp looks ok the last line is xinetd : START tftpd pid="pidnumber" from ="ipaddy" on the TC , it shows the dhcp negotion and the last line is: Loading 10.10.0.58:/ltsp/i386/elf.ltsp (ELF) ... done there it stops. No further output on TC or client. I also tried forcing the wraplinux and pxe.0 kernels, which seem to get further. I get the scrolling bar at the bottom that says scientific linux 6.1 on the bottom right, but ultimately results in dracut error messages and a kernel panic. I hoping I missed something simple. Any pointers are appreciated. Thanks Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burke at thealmquists.net Thu Oct 20 18:11:45 2011 From: burke at thealmquists.net (Burke Almquist) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:11:45 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Problems loading Kernel on new install In-Reply-To: <4EA05DDF.9060000@rx30.com> References: <4EA05DDF.9060000@rx30.com> Message-ID: <32C137B9-9C8D-4986-9F74-C08580E0B5FB@thealmquists.net> On Oct 20, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Steve wrote: > Hi All, > Im trying to setup LTSP using the InstallGuide and running into difficulties. > I installed a fresh copy of CentOS 6 on a Dell precision T3400 in a mixed network environment > with my dhcp server using port 1067. > I cant get into the TC console at the moment for exact specs, but its a "red faced" jammin from disklessworkstations > , manufactured june 2009, flashed to work over 1067. It works with my older versions of ltsp on centos 5.4. > > I , think, followed the directions on the wiki carefully, didnt run into any problems or receive any error messages. > When the TC is booting it appears to be detected as etherboot-5.4 and attempts to load the elf.ltsp kernel. > In messages, on the server, i see > DHCPDISCOVER > DHCPOFFER > DHCPREQUEST > DHCPACK > > all with sane values, dhcp looks ok > the last line is > xinetd : START tftpd pid="pidnumber" from ="ipaddy" > > on the TC , it shows the dhcp negotion and the last line is: > Loading 10.10.0.58:/ltsp/i386/elf.ltsp (ELF) ... done > > there it stops. No further output on TC or client. Which chroot are you using? SL6, Fedora 14, or Fedora 11? From skerr at rx30.com Thu Oct 20 18:34:48 2011 From: skerr at rx30.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:34:48 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Problems loading Kernel on new install In-Reply-To: <32C137B9-9C8D-4986-9F74-C08580E0B5FB@thealmquists.net> References: <4EA05DDF.9060000@rx30.com> <32C137B9-9C8D-4986-9F74-C08580E0B5FB@thealmquists.net> Message-ID: <4EA069C8.2080301@rx30.com> My first attempt was SL6.When I ran into problems there, I followed the directions for MultiClientChroot and installed Fedora 11 with similiar results. On 10/20/2011 02:11 PM, Burke Almquist wrote: > On Oct 20, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Steve wrote: > >> Hi All, >> Im trying to setup LTSP using the InstallGuide and running into difficulties. >> I installed a fresh copy of CentOS 6 on a Dell precision T3400 in a mixed network environment >> with my dhcp server using port 1067. >> I cant get into the TC console at the moment for exact specs, but its a "red faced" jammin from disklessworkstations >> , manufactured june 2009, flashed to work over 1067. It works with my older versions of ltsp on centos 5.4. >> >> I , think, followed the directions on the wiki carefully, didnt run into any problems or receive any error messages. >> When the TC is booting it appears to be detected as etherboot-5.4 and attempts to load the elf.ltsp kernel. >> In messages, on the server, i see >> DHCPDISCOVER >> DHCPOFFER >> DHCPREQUEST >> DHCPACK >> >> all with sane values, dhcp looks ok >> the last line is >> xinetd : START tftpd pid="pidnumber" from ="ipaddy" >> >> on the TC , it shows the dhcp negotion and the last line is: >> Loading 10.10.0.58:/ltsp/i386/elf.ltsp (ELF) ... done >> >> there it stops. No further output on TC or client. > > Which chroot are you using? SL6, Fedora 14, or Fedora 11? > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burke at thealmquists.net Fri Oct 21 03:08:59 2011 From: burke at thealmquists.net (Burke Almquist) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:08:59 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Problems loading Kernel on new install In-Reply-To: <4EA05DDF.9060000@rx30.com> References: <4EA05DDF.9060000@rx30.com> Message-ID: It almost looks to me as if it's having trouble mounting the NFS root for the client. It appears to be getting the kernel over tftpd and then hanging? On Oct 20, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Steve wrote: > Hi All, > Im trying to setup LTSP using the InstallGuide and running into difficulties. > I installed a fresh copy of CentOS 6 on a Dell precision T3400 in a mixed network environment > with my dhcp server using port 1067. > I cant get into the TC console at the moment for exact specs, but its a "red faced" jammin from disklessworkstations > , manufactured june 2009, flashed to work over 1067. It works with my older versions of ltsp on centos 5.4. > > I , think, followed the directions on the wiki carefully, didnt run into any problems or receive any error messages. > When the TC is booting it appears to be detected as etherboot-5.4 and attempts to load the elf.ltsp kernel. > In messages, on the server, i see > DHCPDISCOVER > DHCPOFFER > DHCPREQUEST > DHCPACK > > all with sane values, dhcp looks ok > the last line is > xinetd : START tftpd pid="pidnumber" from ="ipaddy" > > on the TC , it shows the dhcp negotion and the last line is: > Loading 10.10.0.58:/ltsp/i386/elf.ltsp (ELF) ... done > > there it stops. No further output on TC or client. > > I also tried forcing the wraplinux and pxe.0 kernels, which seem to get further. I get the scrolling bar at the bottom that > says scientific linux 6.1 on the bottom right, but ultimately results in dracut error messages and a kernel panic. > > I hoping I missed something simple. Any pointers are appreciated. > > Thanks > Steve > > > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From skerr at rx30.com Fri Oct 21 13:48:15 2011 From: skerr at rx30.com (Steve) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:48:15 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Problems loading Kernel on new install In-Reply-To: References: <4EA05DDF.9060000@rx30.com> Message-ID: <4EA1781F.7070601@rx30.com> After poking around some, I discovered gdm was not configured to allow remote X connections, so I edited custom.conf apropriately, in hope I'll sometime get far enough that it matters. ok , so I set dhcpd.conf back up to point to the fed11 chroot. specifying elf.ltsp kernel: After .... (ELF) .... done I get dracut: Fatal no or empty root = argument dracut: Refusing to continue kernel panic - not syncing : Attempted to kill init I then pointed filename to the wraplinux kernel: It looks like it goes further, get a scrolling screen like the kernel is loading for instance I see: registered taskstats version 1 magic number: 11:139:136 freeing unused kernel memory 404k then basically the same dracut error messages and: Pid: 1 init tainted:G then a call trace vmlinuz.ltsp - does not fit in memory pxelinux.0 shows fedora 11 scroll bar moving left to right at the bottom of the screen then displays similiar dracut errors then kernel panic - not syncing. Attempted to kill init then another call trace On 10/20/2011 11:08 PM, Burke Almquist wrote: > It almost looks to me as if it's having trouble mounting the NFS root for the client. > It appears to be getting the kernel over tftpd and then hanging? > > > On Oct 20, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Steve wrote: > >> Hi All, >> Im trying to setup LTSP using the InstallGuide and running into difficulties. >> I installed a fresh copy of CentOS 6 on a Dell precision T3400 in a mixed network environment >> with my dhcp server using port 1067. >> I cant get into the TC console at the moment for exact specs, but its a "red faced" jammin from disklessworkstations >> , manufactured june 2009, flashed to work over 1067. It works with my older versions of ltsp on centos 5.4. >> >> I , think, followed the directions on the wiki carefully, didnt run into any problems or receive any error messages. >> When the TC is booting it appears to be detected as etherboot-5.4 and attempts to load the elf.ltsp kernel. >> In messages, on the server, i see >> DHCPDISCOVER >> DHCPOFFER >> DHCPREQUEST >> DHCPACK >> >> all with sane values, dhcp looks ok >> the last line is >> xinetd : START tftpd pid="pidnumber" from ="ipaddy" >> >> on the TC , it shows the dhcp negotion and the last line is: >> Loading 10.10.0.58:/ltsp/i386/elf.ltsp (ELF) ... done >> >> there it stops. No further output on TC or client. >> >> I also tried forcing the wraplinux and pxe.0 kernels, which seem to get further. I get the scrolling bar at the bottom that >> says scientific linux 6.1 on the bottom right, but ultimately results in dracut error messages and a kernel panic. >> >> I hoping I missed something simple. Any pointers are appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> Steve >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dean.jones at oregonstate.edu Fri Oct 21 14:54:32 2011 From: dean.jones at oregonstate.edu (Dean Jones) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 07:54:32 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Problems loading Kernel on new install In-Reply-To: <4EA1781F.7070601@rx30.com> References: <4EA05DDF.9060000@rx30.com> <4EA1781F.7070601@rx30.com> Message-ID: Looks like your dhcpd.conf is not specifying a root path to me, so the clients do not know where to mount root. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Steve wrote: > After poking around some, I discovered gdm was not configured to allow > remote > X connections, so I edited custom.conf apropriately, in hope I'll sometime > get far enough that > it matters. > > ok , so I set dhcpd.conf back up to point to the fed11 chroot. > specifying elf.ltsp kernel: > ??? ??? After ....?? (ELF) .... done???? I get > ??? ??? dracut: Fatal no or empty root = argument > ??? ??? dracut: Refusing to continue > ??? ??? kernel panic - not syncing : Attempted to kill init > > I then pointed filename to the wraplinux kernel: > It looks like it goes further, get a scrolling screen like the kernel is > loading > for instance I see: > ??? ???? registered taskstats version 1 > ??? ???? magic number: 11:139:136 > ??? ???? freeing unused kernel memory 404k > then basically the same dracut error messages and: > ??? ???? Pid: 1 init tainted:G > ??? ??? then a call trace > > vmlinuz.ltsp - does not fit in memory > > pxelinux.0 > ??? ???? shows fedora 11 scroll bar moving left to right at the bottom of > the screen > ??? ???? then displays similiar dracut errors > ??? ???? then kernel panic - not syncing. Attempted to kill init > ??? ???? then another call trace > > > > > On 10/20/2011 11:08 PM, Burke Almquist wrote: > > It almost looks to me as if it's having trouble mounting the NFS root for > the client. > It appears to be getting the kernel over tftpd and then hanging? > > > On Oct 20, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Steve wrote: > > Hi All, > Im trying to setup LTSP using the InstallGuide and running into > difficulties. > I installed a fresh copy of CentOS 6 on a Dell precision T3400 in a mixed > network environment > with my dhcp server using port 1067. > I cant get into the TC console at the moment for exact specs, but its a "red > faced" jammin from disklessworkstations > , manufactured june 2009, flashed to work over 1067. It works with my older > versions of ltsp on centos 5.4. > > I , think, followed the directions on the wiki carefully, didnt run into any > problems or receive any error messages. > When the TC is booting it appears to be detected as etherboot-5.4 and > attempts to load the elf.ltsp kernel. > In messages, on the server, i see > DHCPDISCOVER > DHCPOFFER > DHCPREQUEST > DHCPACK > > all with sane values, dhcp looks ok > the last line is > xinetd : START tftpd pid="pidnumber" from ="ipaddy" > > on the TC , it shows the dhcp negotion and the last line is: > Loading 10.10.0.58:/ltsp/i386/elf.ltsp (ELF) ... done > > there it stops. No further output on TC or client. > > I also tried forcing the wraplinux and pxe.0 kernels, which seem to get > further. I get the scrolling bar at the bottom that > says scientific linux 6.1 on the bottom right, but ultimately results in > dracut error messages and a kernel panic. > > I hoping I missed something simple. Any pointers are appreciated. > > Thanks > Steve > > > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > From skerr at rx30.com Fri Oct 21 16:14:33 2011 From: skerr at rx30.com (Steve) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:14:33 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Problems loading Kernel on new install In-Reply-To: References: <4EA05DDF.9060000@rx30.com> <4EA1781F.7070601@rx30.com> Message-ID: <4EA19A69.6040701@rx30.com> Its there, in fact in my last revision, I accidentally have it twice. once as a global and specified under the workstation parameters. Ill include it in case there is anything helpful. I also just captured a packet dump. I have a couple udp packets covering the dhcp negotiation, then its all tftp beginning with a request from the client to read the specified kernel on the server and ending with an ack from the client to a kernel data send from the server, and thats it. rpcinfo seems to indicate nfs is ok, exports is configured wide open as per doc. firewall stopped. selinux disabled. even set /opt 777 One thing Im curious about. What determines where the client sees lts.conf ? I notice its now under /var/lib/tftpboot, the lts.conf in the chroot is empty, whereas in 4.2 it read the version in the chroot. Heres the dhcpd.conf file. I've made a number of revisions, from going with the default to using the workstation defs as specified on the wiki when using a fedora 11 chroot. Again this is an attempt at a mixed network setup. TC's have been factory flashed to work over 1067. I have ltsp-dhcp disabled dhcp args set to 1067 under sysconfig and bridge removed. per netstat , and log files were listening ok on the server. # Sample configuration file for LTSP dhcpd # The goal of this provided dhcpd.conf is to boot as many different clients as possible without manual configuration. # Some clients cannot be booted with this, and you will need to create your own custom dhcpd.conf. # Some more complex network topologies will also need a custom dhcpd.conf. # default-lease-time 21600; max-lease-time 21600; ddns-update-style none; allow booting; allow bootp; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; option broadcast-address 10.10.0.255; option routers 10.10.0.58; option domain-name-servers 10.10.0.58; next-server 10.10.0.58; option domain-name "ltsp"; option option-128 code 128 = string; option option-129 code 129 = text; option root-path "10.10.0.58:/opt/ltsp/fed11-i386"; option option-221 code 221 = text; option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00; option option-129 "DPORT=1067"; get-lease-hostnames true; shared-network WORKSTATIONS { subnet 10.10.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range dynamic-bootp 10.10.0.62 10.10.0.65; use-host-decl-names on; option log-servers 10.10.0.58; } } ## example configurations for specifying specific kernels to specific clients ## These examples below are VERY OLD, uncertain if they work group { use-host-decl-names on; option log-servers 10.10.0.58; host lt01 { hardware ethernet 00:13:90:02:7f:11; fixed-address lt01; ### ip of lt01 specified in hosts filename "/ltsp/fed11-i386/wraplinux-nbi.ltsp"; option root-path "10.10.0.58:/opt/ltsp/fed11-i386"; } # host ws002 { # hardware ethernet 00:D0:09:30:6A:1C; # fixed-address 172.31.100.2; # filename "/ltsp/vmlinuz.ltsp"; # option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00; # option option-129 "NIC=ne"; # } # host ws003 { # hardware ethernet 00:D0:09:30:28:B2; # fixed-address 172.31.100.3; # # kernels are specified in /tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/ # filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0"; # } # Apple Specific Settings # host ws007 { # hardware ethernet 00:30:65:69:23:60; # fixed-address 172.31.100.4; # option root-path "172.31.100.254:/opt/ltsp/ppc"; ## filename "yaboot"; # option vendor-class-identifier "AAPLBSDPC"; # } } On 10/21/2011 10:54 AM, Dean Jones wrote: > Looks like your dhcpd.conf is not specifying a root path to me, so the > clients do not know where to mount root. > > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Steve wrote: >> After poking around some, I discovered gdm was not configured to allow >> remote >> X connections, so I edited custom.conf apropriately, in hope I'll sometime >> get far enough that >> it matters. >> >> ok , so I set dhcpd.conf back up to point to the fed11 chroot. >> specifying elf.ltsp kernel: >> After .... (ELF) .... done I get >> dracut: Fatal no or empty root = argument >> dracut: Refusing to continue >> kernel panic - not syncing : Attempted to kill init >> >> I then pointed filename to the wraplinux kernel: >> It looks like it goes further, get a scrolling screen like the kernel is >> loading >> for instance I see: >> registered taskstats version 1 >> magic number: 11:139:136 >> freeing unused kernel memory 404k >> then basically the same dracut error messages and: >> Pid: 1 init tainted:G >> then a call trace >> >> vmlinuz.ltsp - does not fit in memory >> >> pxelinux.0 >> shows fedora 11 scroll bar moving left to right at the bottom of >> the screen >> then displays similiar dracut errors >> then kernel panic - not syncing. Attempted to kill init >> then another call trace >> >> >> >> >> On 10/20/2011 11:08 PM, Burke Almquist wrote: >> >> It almost looks to me as if it's having trouble mounting the NFS root for >> the client. >> It appears to be getting the kernel over tftpd and then hanging? >> >> >> On Oct 20, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Steve wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> Im trying to setup LTSP using the InstallGuide and running into >> difficulties. >> I installed a fresh copy of CentOS 6 on a Dell precision T3400 in a mixed >> network environment >> with my dhcp server using port 1067. >> I cant get into the TC console at the moment for exact specs, but its a "red >> faced" jammin from disklessworkstations >> , manufactured june 2009, flashed to work over 1067. It works with my older >> versions of ltsp on centos 5.4. >> >> I , think, followed the directions on the wiki carefully, didnt run into any >> problems or receive any error messages. >> When the TC is booting it appears to be detected as etherboot-5.4 and >> attempts to load the elf.ltsp kernel. >> In messages, on the server, i see >> DHCPDISCOVER >> DHCPOFFER >> DHCPREQUEST >> DHCPACK >> >> all with sane values, dhcp looks ok >> the last line is >> xinetd : START tftpd pid="pidnumber" from ="ipaddy" >> >> on the TC , it shows the dhcp negotion and the last line is: >> Loading 10.10.0.58:/ltsp/i386/elf.ltsp (ELF) ... done >> >> there it stops. No further output on TC or client. >> >> I also tried forcing the wraplinux and pxe.0 kernels, which seem to get >> further. I get the scrolling bar at the bottom that >> says scientific linux 6.1 on the bottom right, but ultimately results in >> dracut error messages and a kernel panic. >> >> I hoping I missed something simple. 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URL: From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sun Oct 23 12:10:43 2011 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry R Cisna) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 07:10:43 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Problems loading Kernel on new install Message-ID: <1319371843.10623.70.camel@localhost.localdomain> Steve, A couple things to verify on your server to TC. 1) Run the following command netstat -nlp | grep 1067 You should get a return of , udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:1067 0.0.0.0:* 2030/dhcpd 2) Are you using a simple 8 port - unmanaged - switch in your setup? 3) If both of this test positive, do you have another old box/TC you can try with even something as archane as an etherboot floppy built for port 1067. I used to use this setup back in the day. 4) At the server console run command tail -f /var/log/messages ,then try booting a TC and copy / paste the output here. Below works on Centos 5.x. We have two servers running on port 1067 at two different buildings. (Sidenote: There was some version were the dhcp port option configuration changed in the ISC dhcpd build but has been some time back. It is possible the dhcpd configuration setup has changed again since CentOS 5.x to what you are running now, keep in mind. ) Example: On CentOS 5 the port 1067 port modification needs to be placed at your /etc/rc.d/init.d/dhcp (startup script) 1) The very first line in your dhcp init script should be , *after* chkconfig ***** should be DHCPORT="1067" #That's all that needs added. One line. 2) In the dhcpd-k12ltsp.conf file should have appended the option -128 & option -129 as you have posted in your own posts for each TC seperatly. You do not need anything placed at any of the sysconfig/dhcp files FYI.These files should be left default. Let us know if you make any progress. Take Care, Barry From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sun Oct 23 12:34:10 2011 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry R Cisna) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 07:34:10 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Problems loading Kernel on new install Message-ID: <1319373250.10623.78.camel@localhost.localdomain> Steve, After looking at your down line posts it does appear dhcp is not the problem you are facing. See if you can find another old pc box with a floppy drive slap in a realtek 8139 pci nic,,for simplicity, and build a couple floppies setup for port 1067 from here: http://rom-o-matic.net/ If this setup does in fact boot,a simple guess would be you need to append the nic,,for mac address,,,x.y.z in the pxe file,,,for each TC. This is what appears to be happening to me. Make sure you aren't running a managed switch in between server and TC. Good Luck, Barry From julius at turtle.com Mon Oct 24 12:26:54 2011 From: julius at turtle.com (Julius Szelagiewicz) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:26:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [K12OSN] K12Linux EL6 Setup Instructions In-Reply-To: <4DFB3EF6.7030306@togami.com> References: <4DFB3EF6.7030306@togami.com> Message-ID: <42493.216.216.171.235.1319459214.squirrel@216.216.171.235> Dear Folks, I'm trying to set up a CentOS 6 server and I've followed the beta instrunctions faithfully (substituting CentOS 6 for SL 6). The software appears to load happily, but there is no /tftpdir created and /opt/ltsp stays empty. Any ideas? Julius > Setup LTSP Server on Scientific Linux 6 > ======================================= > 1. Install Scientific Linux 6 with GNOME desktop. > > 2. http://mplug.org/~k12linux/rpm/el6/ > Install ltsp-server, ltspfs and nbd from here, choose i686 or x86_64 > matching your server arch. > > 3. Grab http://togami.com/~warren/temp/ltsp-i386.ks and replace the file > at /etc/ltsp/kickstart/Fedora/el6/ltsp-i386.ks. Keep in mind that > future ltsp-server RPM upgrades will wipe out your changed ltsp-i386.ks, > so you will need to replace it again until the beta goes public. > > 4. https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide > Follow the directions here but stop after you have disabled the iptables > firewall. > > 5. Run /usr/bin/ltsp-server-tweaks > https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/Devel/ltsp-server-tweaks > See here for important details. > > Network Setup with K12Linux EL6 > =============================== > The old Fedora instructions to make service network and NetworkManager > co-exist doesn't work because system-config-network lacks a GUI > interface in EL6. Thus we need to manually configure attaching a > dedicated ethernet device to the bridge. > > Requirements: > * TWO network interfaces, either two ethernet, or one wifi and one > ethernet. > * One of the ethernet interfaces must be dedicated to serving DHCP and > booting thin clients on an isolated network segment. This interface has > NM_CONTROLLED=no to ensure that NetworkManager wont interfere with it. > * The other interface (ethernet or wifi) must be the route to the > Internet. This interface is managed by NetworkManager. NetworkManager > in EL6 is a lot better than earlier versions. You can define interfaces > as static and always available, so they are configured at bootup without > a user logging into the desktop. > > 1. Run "ifconfig" and look for the unused ethernet interface, it should > look something like the below. Write down the ethX device name and MAC > address as you will need this in the following steps. > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:58:7E:24:66 > inet6 addr: fe80::215:58ff:fe7e:5470/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:2071831 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:2769292 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 > RX bytes:399370077 (380.8 MiB) TX bytes:2658000993 (2.4 GiB) > Memory:ee000000-ee020000 > > 2. cd /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts > > 3. Look at ifcfg-* files. Is there a ifcfg-Auto_ethX matching the > device name of the interface you chose above? If so, rename it to > ifcfg-ethX. > > 4. Replace the contents of ifcfg-ethX with something similar to below, > replacing the ethX device name and MAC address with your own. > > HWADDR=00:15:58:7E:24:66 > TYPE=Ethernet > BOOTPROTO=none > IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no > IPV6INIT=no > NAME="eth0" > ONBOOT=yes > NM_CONTROLLED=no > BRIDGE=ltspbr0 > > 5. service network restart; chkconfig network on > > 6. brctl show > This command should show that your chosen ethX device is added to the > ltspbr0 bridge. > > 7. At this point you should be able to plug in and boot a PXE thin > client on that Ethernet interface. > > Other New K12Linux EL6 Instructions > =================================== > https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/VirtualPXEClient > Virtual Machine PXE Client > https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/LocalAppsSupport > Learn how to install and run Firefox as a Local App. Requires maybe 1GB > RAM on the client, maybe 512MB RAM after I later build a new client > kernel. > > Warren Togami > warren at togami.com > From dean.jones at oregonstate.edu Mon Oct 24 14:48:32 2011 From: dean.jones at oregonstate.edu (Dean Jones) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 07:48:32 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] K12Linux EL6 Setup Instructions In-Reply-To: <42493.216.216.171.235.1319459214.squirrel@216.216.171.235> References: <4DFB3EF6.7030306@togami.com> <42493.216.216.171.235.1319459214.squirrel@216.216.171.235> Message-ID: I suggest using these instructions: https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Julius Szelagiewicz wrote: > Dear Folks, > ?I'm trying to set up a CentOS 6 server and I've followed the beta > instrunctions faithfully (substituting CentOS 6 for SL 6). The software > appears to load happily, but there is no /tftpdir created and /opt/ltsp > stays empty. Any ideas? > Julius > > > >> Setup LTSP Server on Scientific Linux 6 >> ======================================= >> 1. Install Scientific Linux 6 with GNOME desktop. >> >> 2. http://mplug.org/~k12linux/rpm/el6/ >> Install ltsp-server, ltspfs and nbd from here, choose i686 or x86_64 >> matching your server arch. >> >> 3. Grab http://togami.com/~warren/temp/ltsp-i386.ks and replace the file >> at /etc/ltsp/kickstart/Fedora/el6/ltsp-i386.ks. ?Keep in mind that >> future ltsp-server RPM upgrades will wipe out your changed ltsp-i386.ks, >> so you will need to replace it again until the beta goes public. >> >> 4. https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide >> Follow the directions here but stop after you have disabled the iptables >> firewall. >> >> 5. Run /usr/bin/ltsp-server-tweaks >> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/Devel/ltsp-server-tweaks >> See here for important details. >> >> Network Setup with K12Linux EL6 >> =============================== >> The old Fedora instructions to make service network and NetworkManager >> co-exist doesn't work because system-config-network lacks a GUI >> interface in EL6. ?Thus we need to manually configure attaching a >> dedicated ethernet device to the bridge. >> >> Requirements: >> * TWO network interfaces, either two ethernet, or one wifi and one >> ethernet. >> * One of the ethernet interfaces must be dedicated to serving DHCP and >> booting thin clients on an isolated network segment. ?This interface has >> NM_CONTROLLED=no to ensure that NetworkManager wont interfere with it. >> * The other interface (ethernet or wifi) must be the route to the >> Internet. ?This interface is managed by NetworkManager. ?NetworkManager >> in EL6 is a lot better than earlier versions. ?You can define interfaces >> as static and always available, so they are configured at bootup without >> a user logging into the desktop. >> >> 1. Run "ifconfig" and look for the unused ethernet interface, it should >> look something like the below. ?Write down the ethX device name and MAC >> address as you will need this in the following steps. >> >> eth0 ? ? ?Link encap:Ethernet ?HWaddr 00:15:58:7E:24:66 >> ? ? ? ? ? ?inet6 addr: fe80::215:58ff:fe7e:5470/64 Scope:Link >> ? ? ? ? ? ?UP BROADCAST MULTICAST ?MTU:1500 ?Metric:1 >> ? ? ? ? ? ?RX packets:2071831 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 >> ? ? ? ? ? ?TX packets:2769292 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 >> ? ? ? ? ? ?collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 >> ? ? ? ? ? ?RX bytes:399370077 (380.8 MiB) ?TX bytes:2658000993 (2.4 GiB) >> ? ? ? ? ? ?Memory:ee000000-ee020000 >> >> 2. cd /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts >> >> 3. Look at ifcfg-* files. ?Is there a ifcfg-Auto_ethX matching the >> device name of the interface you chose above? ?If so, rename it to >> ifcfg-ethX. >> >> 4. Replace the contents of ifcfg-ethX with something similar to below, >> replacing the ethX device name and MAC address with your own. >> >> HWADDR=00:15:58:7E:24:66 >> TYPE=Ethernet >> BOOTPROTO=none >> IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no >> IPV6INIT=no >> NAME="eth0" >> ONBOOT=yes >> NM_CONTROLLED=no >> BRIDGE=ltspbr0 >> >> 5. service network restart; chkconfig network on >> >> 6. brctl show >> This command should show that your chosen ethX device is added to the >> ltspbr0 bridge. >> >> 7. At this point you should be able to plug in and boot a PXE thin >> client on that Ethernet interface. >> >> Other New K12Linux EL6 Instructions >> =================================== >> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/VirtualPXEClient >> Virtual Machine PXE Client >> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/LocalAppsSupport >> Learn how to install and run Firefox as a Local App. ?Requires maybe 1GB >> RAM on the client, maybe 512MB RAM after I later build a new client >> kernel. >> >> Warren Togami >> warren at togami.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From julius at turtle.com Mon Oct 24 16:35:30 2011 From: julius at turtle.com (Julius Szelagiewicz) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:35:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [K12OSN] K12Linux EL6 Setup Instructions In-Reply-To: References: <4DFB3EF6.7030306@togami.com> <42493.216.216.171.235.1319459214.squirrel@216.216.171.235> Message-ID: <34055.216.216.171.235.1319474130.squirrel@216.216.171.235> These are precisely the instructions I used. Julius > I suggest using these instructions: > https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Julius Szelagiewicz > wrote: >> Dear Folks, >> ?I'm trying to set up a CentOS 6 server and I've followed the beta >> instrunctions faithfully (substituting CentOS 6 for SL 6). The software >> appears to load happily, but there is no /tftpdir created and /opt/ltsp >> stays empty. Any ideas? >> Julius >> >> >> >>> Setup LTSP Server on Scientific Linux 6 >>> ======================================= >>> 1. Install Scientific Linux 6 with GNOME desktop. >>> >>> 2. http://mplug.org/~k12linux/rpm/el6/ >>> Install ltsp-server, ltspfs and nbd from here, choose i686 or x86_64 >>> matching your server arch. >>> >>> 3. Grab http://togami.com/~warren/temp/ltsp-i386.ks and replace the >>> file >>> at /etc/ltsp/kickstart/Fedora/el6/ltsp-i386.ks. ?Keep in mind that >>> future ltsp-server RPM upgrades will wipe out your changed >>> ltsp-i386.ks, >>> so you will need to replace it again until the beta goes public. >>> >>> 4. https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide >>> Follow the directions here but stop after you have disabled the >>> iptables >>> firewall. >>> >>> 5. Run /usr/bin/ltsp-server-tweaks >>> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/Devel/ltsp-server-tweaks >>> See here for important details. >>> >>> Network Setup with K12Linux EL6 >>> =============================== >>> The old Fedora instructions to make service network and NetworkManager >>> co-exist doesn't work because system-config-network lacks a GUI >>> interface in EL6. ?Thus we need to manually configure attaching a >>> dedicated ethernet device to the bridge. >>> >>> Requirements: >>> * TWO network interfaces, either two ethernet, or one wifi and one >>> ethernet. >>> * One of the ethernet interfaces must be dedicated to serving DHCP and >>> booting thin clients on an isolated network segment. ?This interface >>> has >>> NM_CONTROLLED=no to ensure that NetworkManager wont interfere with it. >>> * The other interface (ethernet or wifi) must be the route to the >>> Internet. ?This interface is managed by NetworkManager. ?NetworkManager >>> in EL6 is a lot better than earlier versions. ?You can define >>> interfaces >>> as static and always available, so they are configured at bootup >>> without >>> a user logging into the desktop. >>> >>> 1. Run "ifconfig" and look for the unused ethernet interface, it should >>> look something like the below. ?Write down the ethX device name and MAC >>> address as you will need this in the following steps. >>> >>> eth0 ? ? ?Link encap:Ethernet ?HWaddr 00:15:58:7E:24:66 >>> ? ? ? ? ? ?inet6 addr: fe80::215:58ff:fe7e:5470/64 Scope:Link >>> ? ? ? ? ? ?UP BROADCAST MULTICAST ?MTU:1500 ?Metric:1 >>> ? ? ? ? ? ?RX packets:2071831 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 >>> ? ? ? ? ? ?TX packets:2769292 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 >>> ? ? ? ? ? ?collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 >>> ? ? ? ? ? ?RX bytes:399370077 (380.8 MiB) ?TX bytes:2658000993 (2.4 >>> GiB) >>> ? ? ? ? ? ?Memory:ee000000-ee020000 >>> >>> 2. cd /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts >>> >>> 3. Look at ifcfg-* files. ?Is there a ifcfg-Auto_ethX matching the >>> device name of the interface you chose above? ?If so, rename it to >>> ifcfg-ethX. >>> >>> 4. Replace the contents of ifcfg-ethX with something similar to below, >>> replacing the ethX device name and MAC address with your own. >>> >>> HWADDR=00:15:58:7E:24:66 >>> TYPE=Ethernet >>> BOOTPROTO=none >>> IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no >>> IPV6INIT=no >>> NAME="eth0" >>> ONBOOT=yes >>> NM_CONTROLLED=no >>> BRIDGE=ltspbr0 >>> >>> 5. service network restart; chkconfig network on >>> >>> 6. brctl show >>> This command should show that your chosen ethX device is added to the >>> ltspbr0 bridge. >>> >>> 7. At this point you should be able to plug in and boot a PXE thin >>> client on that Ethernet interface. >>> >>> Other New K12Linux EL6 Instructions >>> =================================== >>> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/VirtualPXEClient >>> Virtual Machine PXE Client >>> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/LocalAppsSupport >>> Learn how to install and run Firefox as a Local App. ?Requires maybe >>> 1GB >>> RAM on the client, maybe 512MB RAM after I later build a new client >>> kernel. >>> >>> Warren Togami >>> warren at togami.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From dean.jones at oregonstate.edu Mon Oct 24 16:56:36 2011 From: dean.jones at oregonstate.edu (Dean Jones) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:56:36 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] K12Linux EL6 Setup Instructions In-Reply-To: <34055.216.216.171.235.1319474130.squirrel@216.216.171.235> References: <4DFB3EF6.7030306@togami.com> <42493.216.216.171.235.1319459214.squirrel@216.216.171.235> <34055.216.216.171.235.1319474130.squirrel@216.216.171.235> Message-ID: Did you generate the chroot with the command? ltsp-build-client On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Julius Szelagiewicz wrote: > These are precisely the instructions I used. > Julius > >> I suggest using these instructions: >> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide >> >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Julius Szelagiewicz >> wrote: >>> Dear Folks, >>> ?I'm trying to set up a CentOS 6 server and I've followed the beta >>> instrunctions faithfully (substituting CentOS 6 for SL 6). The software >>> appears to load happily, but there is no /tftpdir created and /opt/ltsp >>> stays empty. Any ideas? >>> Julius >>> >>> >>> >>>> Setup LTSP Server on Scientific Linux 6 >>>> ======================================= >>>> 1. Install Scientific Linux 6 with GNOME desktop. >>>> >>>> 2. http://mplug.org/~k12linux/rpm/el6/ >>>> Install ltsp-server, ltspfs and nbd from here, choose i686 or x86_64 >>>> matching your server arch. >>>> >>>> 3. Grab http://togami.com/~warren/temp/ltsp-i386.ks and replace the >>>> file >>>> at /etc/ltsp/kickstart/Fedora/el6/ltsp-i386.ks. ?Keep in mind that >>>> future ltsp-server RPM upgrades will wipe out your changed >>>> ltsp-i386.ks, >>>> so you will need to replace it again until the beta goes public. >>>> >>>> 4. https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide >>>> Follow the directions here but stop after you have disabled the >>>> iptables >>>> firewall. >>>> >>>> 5. Run /usr/bin/ltsp-server-tweaks >>>> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/Devel/ltsp-server-tweaks >>>> See here for important details. >>>> >>>> Network Setup with K12Linux EL6 >>>> =============================== >>>> The old Fedora instructions to make service network and NetworkManager >>>> co-exist doesn't work because system-config-network lacks a GUI >>>> interface in EL6. ?Thus we need to manually configure attaching a >>>> dedicated ethernet device to the bridge. >>>> >>>> Requirements: >>>> * TWO network interfaces, either two ethernet, or one wifi and one >>>> ethernet. >>>> * One of the ethernet interfaces must be dedicated to serving DHCP and >>>> booting thin clients on an isolated network segment. ?This interface >>>> has >>>> NM_CONTROLLED=no to ensure that NetworkManager wont interfere with it. >>>> * The other interface (ethernet or wifi) must be the route to the >>>> Internet. ?This interface is managed by NetworkManager. ?NetworkManager >>>> in EL6 is a lot better than earlier versions. ?You can define >>>> interfaces >>>> as static and always available, so they are configured at bootup >>>> without >>>> a user logging into the desktop. >>>> >>>> 1. Run "ifconfig" and look for the unused ethernet interface, it should >>>> look something like the below. ?Write down the ethX device name and MAC >>>> address as you will need this in the following steps. >>>> >>>> eth0 ? ? ?Link encap:Ethernet ?HWaddr 00:15:58:7E:24:66 >>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?inet6 addr: fe80::215:58ff:fe7e:5470/64 Scope:Link >>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?UP BROADCAST MULTICAST ?MTU:1500 ?Metric:1 >>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?RX packets:2071831 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 >>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?TX packets:2769292 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 >>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 >>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?RX bytes:399370077 (380.8 MiB) ?TX bytes:2658000993 (2.4 >>>> GiB) >>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?Memory:ee000000-ee020000 >>>> >>>> 2. cd /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts >>>> >>>> 3. Look at ifcfg-* files. ?Is there a ifcfg-Auto_ethX matching the >>>> device name of the interface you chose above? ?If so, rename it to >>>> ifcfg-ethX. >>>> >>>> 4. Replace the contents of ifcfg-ethX with something similar to below, >>>> replacing the ethX device name and MAC address with your own. >>>> >>>> HWADDR=00:15:58:7E:24:66 >>>> TYPE=Ethernet >>>> BOOTPROTO=none >>>> IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no >>>> IPV6INIT=no >>>> NAME="eth0" >>>> ONBOOT=yes >>>> NM_CONTROLLED=no >>>> BRIDGE=ltspbr0 >>>> >>>> 5. service network restart; chkconfig network on >>>> >>>> 6. brctl show >>>> This command should show that your chosen ethX device is added to the >>>> ltspbr0 bridge. >>>> >>>> 7. At this point you should be able to plug in and boot a PXE thin >>>> client on that Ethernet interface. >>>> >>>> Other New K12Linux EL6 Instructions >>>> =================================== >>>> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/VirtualPXEClient >>>> Virtual Machine PXE Client >>>> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/LocalAppsSupport >>>> Learn how to install and run Firefox as a Local App. ?Requires maybe >>>> 1GB >>>> RAM on the client, maybe 512MB RAM after I later build a new client >>>> kernel. >>>> >>>> Warren Togami >>>> warren at togami.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> K12OSN mailing list >>> K12OSN at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >>> For more info see >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From julius at turtle.com Mon Oct 24 20:11:46 2011 From: julius at turtle.com (Julius Szelagiewicz) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:11:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [K12OSN] K12Linux EL6 Setup Instructions In-Reply-To: References: <4DFB3EF6.7030306@togami.com> <42493.216.216.171.235.1319459214.squirrel@216.216.171.235> <34055.216.216.171.235.1319474130.squirrel@216.216.171.235> Message-ID: <50871.216.216.171.235.1319487106.squirrel@216.216.171.235> Why would I do a fool thing like that? Duh! Precise instructions imprecisely followed. Thank you. julius > Did you generate the chroot with the command? > > ltsp-build-client > > > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Julius Szelagiewicz > wrote: >> These are precisely the instructions I used. >> Julius >> >>> I suggest using these instructions: >>> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Julius Szelagiewicz >>> >>> wrote: >>>> Dear Folks, >>>> ?I'm trying to set up a CentOS 6 server and I've followed the beta >>>> instrunctions faithfully (substituting CentOS 6 for SL 6). The >>>> software >>>> appears to load happily, but there is no /tftpdir created and >>>> /opt/ltsp >>>> stays empty. Any ideas? >>>> Julius >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Setup LTSP Server on Scientific Linux 6 >>>>> ======================================= >>>>> 1. Install Scientific Linux 6 with GNOME desktop. >>>>> >>>>> 2. http://mplug.org/~k12linux/rpm/el6/ >>>>> Install ltsp-server, ltspfs and nbd from here, choose i686 or x86_64 >>>>> matching your server arch. >>>>> >>>>> 3. Grab http://togami.com/~warren/temp/ltsp-i386.ks and replace the >>>>> file >>>>> at /etc/ltsp/kickstart/Fedora/el6/ltsp-i386.ks. ?Keep in mind that >>>>> future ltsp-server RPM upgrades will wipe out your changed >>>>> ltsp-i386.ks, >>>>> so you will need to replace it again until the beta goes public. >>>>> >>>>> 4. https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide >>>>> Follow the directions here but stop after you have disabled the >>>>> iptables >>>>> firewall. >>>>> >>>>> 5. Run /usr/bin/ltsp-server-tweaks >>>>> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/Devel/ltsp-server-tweaks >>>>> See here for important details. >>>>> >>>>> Network Setup with K12Linux EL6 >>>>> =============================== >>>>> The old Fedora instructions to make service network and >>>>> NetworkManager >>>>> co-exist doesn't work because system-config-network lacks a GUI >>>>> interface in EL6. ?Thus we need to manually configure attaching a >>>>> dedicated ethernet device to the bridge. >>>>> >>>>> Requirements: >>>>> * TWO network interfaces, either two ethernet, or one wifi and one >>>>> ethernet. >>>>> * One of the ethernet interfaces must be dedicated to serving DHCP >>>>> and >>>>> booting thin clients on an isolated network segment. ?This interface >>>>> has >>>>> NM_CONTROLLED=no to ensure that NetworkManager wont interfere with >>>>> it. >>>>> * The other interface (ethernet or wifi) must be the route to the >>>>> Internet. ?This interface is managed by NetworkManager. >>>>> ?NetworkManager >>>>> in EL6 is a lot better than earlier versions. ?You can define >>>>> interfaces >>>>> as static and always available, so they are configured at bootup >>>>> without >>>>> a user logging into the desktop. >>>>> >>>>> 1. Run "ifconfig" and look for the unused ethernet interface, it >>>>> should >>>>> look something like the below. ?Write down the ethX device name and >>>>> MAC >>>>> address as you will need this in the following steps. >>>>> >>>>> eth0 ? ? ?Link encap:Ethernet ?HWaddr 00:15:58:7E:24:66 >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?inet6 addr: fe80::215:58ff:fe7e:5470/64 Scope:Link >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?UP BROADCAST MULTICAST ?MTU:1500 ?Metric:1 >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?RX packets:2071831 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?TX packets:2769292 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?RX bytes:399370077 (380.8 MiB) ?TX bytes:2658000993 (2.4 >>>>> GiB) >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?Memory:ee000000-ee020000 >>>>> >>>>> 2. cd /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts >>>>> >>>>> 3. Look at ifcfg-* files. ?Is there a ifcfg-Auto_ethX matching the >>>>> device name of the interface you chose above? ?If so, rename it to >>>>> ifcfg-ethX. >>>>> >>>>> 4. Replace the contents of ifcfg-ethX with something similar to >>>>> below, >>>>> replacing the ethX device name and MAC address with your own. >>>>> >>>>> HWADDR=00:15:58:7E:24:66 >>>>> TYPE=Ethernet >>>>> BOOTPROTO=none >>>>> IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no >>>>> IPV6INIT=no >>>>> NAME="eth0" >>>>> ONBOOT=yes >>>>> NM_CONTROLLED=no >>>>> BRIDGE=ltspbr0 >>>>> >>>>> 5. service network restart; chkconfig network on >>>>> >>>>> 6. brctl show >>>>> This command should show that your chosen ethX device is added to the >>>>> ltspbr0 bridge. >>>>> >>>>> 7. At this point you should be able to plug in and boot a PXE thin >>>>> client on that Ethernet interface. >>>>> >>>>> Other New K12Linux EL6 Instructions >>>>> =================================== >>>>> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/VirtualPXEClient >>>>> Virtual Machine PXE Client >>>>> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/LocalAppsSupport >>>>> Learn how to install and run Firefox as a Local App. ?Requires maybe >>>>> 1GB >>>>> RAM on the client, maybe 512MB RAM after I later build a new client >>>>> kernel. >>>>> >>>>> Warren Togami >>>>> warren at togami.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> K12OSN mailing list >>>> K12OSN at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >>>> For more info see >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> K12OSN mailing list >>> K12OSN at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >>> For more info see >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us Tue Oct 25 12:54:45 2011 From: cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us (Barry Cisna) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 07:54:45 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Routing quandrum Message-ID: <1319547285.21436.26.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> Hello All, This is not really K12LTSP specific, but wonder if anyone has by chance run into the following. Our school's LAN setup: Subnets; High School = 172.28.13.x Elementary = 172.28.11.x ServerRack = 172.28.8.x IPPhones/teacherPC = 172.28.15.x K12LTSP server(s) provide routing/dhcp/dns settings for EL and HS networks which in turn points to a pfSense router/firewall to internet The IPPhones/Teachers network is routed to pfSense router/firewall through a managed switch The pfSense box has one nic for LAN and has static routes for each of the subnets shown. Quandrum: Everything works fine with this setup and has for many years,,,but,,, with the Android phones and Kendell tablets,,they will not connect through APs plugged into EL and HS networks. They will wifi fine on AP's on the .15/ teacher network which is not being routed with a K12ltsp server. I should state that the Android phones will in fact connect to AP's on EL & HS networks,,,all ip information looks correct but simply will not web browse. It almost appears the 'double routing' may be making these devices confused? I haven't had a chance to do the marathon Wireshark trace routine on this to see how packets are failing on failing devices? Windows mobile ,,and Blackberrys works fine on any subnet,though via wifi. Just curious if anyone has run into this scenario? Take Care, Barry From warren at togami.com Thu Oct 27 04:18:56 2011 From: warren at togami.com (Warren Togami Jr.) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:18:56 -1000 Subject: [K12OSN] Success with running LTSP from Fedora 15 In-Reply-To: <4E9C5FB5.1090505@structural-wood.com> References: <4E9C5FB5.1090505@structural-wood.com> Message-ID: <4EA8DBB0.40505@togami.com> On 10/17/2011 7:02 AM, Kent Schumacher wrote: > I just successfully booted both an Atom based Shuttle XS35 and and an > old Diskless Workstations LTSP-150 from a Fedora 15 installation. > > On first login I received a complaint that Gnome 3 wasn't able to run, > but when that was dismissed I was left with a reasonably functional > desktop. > > I've tried running Firefox 7.01 and LibreOffice 3.3.3 and they both work > well. Firefox 7 is noticeably faster than the Firefox 3 I was running > from Fedora 11 on the same hardware. > > The highlights of how to do it are: > > 1) Modify /etc/sysconfig/ltspdist to allow install on F15 > 2) ltsp-build-client --release 14 > 3) ltsp-build-client --release 11 --chroot ltsp-f11 > > It would be good if I didn't need to modify ltspdist. I'll write up > complete instructions if anyone is interested. > > I'm very happy to be able to be running Fedora 15. It's nice to have the > latest Firefox and LibreOffice. OK... I'll add this as an option in the next release so folks wont need to edit files to install a Fedora 14 client chroot on Fedora 15 or 16 LTSP server. Warren From warren at togami.com Thu Oct 27 04:26:59 2011 From: warren at togami.com (Warren Togami Jr.) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:26:59 -1000 Subject: [K12OSN] Problems loading Kernel on new install In-Reply-To: <4EA1781F.7070601@rx30.com> References: <4EA05DDF.9060000@rx30.com> <4EA1781F.7070601@rx30.com> Message-ID: <4EA8DD93.70101@togami.com> On 10/21/2011 3:48 AM, Steve wrote: > After poking around some, I discovered gdm was not configured to allow > remote > X connections, so I edited custom.conf apropriately, in hope I'll > sometime get far enough that > it matters. Modern LTSP does not use XDMCP so this is not related to your problem. More likely the Geode GX2 in the Jammin-125 is just too old and broken to work with the Fedora 11 kernel. Did you try modifying the /opt/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default file to make it display verbose messages? Warren From warren at togami.com Thu Oct 27 04:57:11 2011 From: warren at togami.com (Warren Togami Jr.) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:57:11 -1000 Subject: [K12OSN] What is important to you? Message-ID: <4EA8E4A7.3030903@togami.com> Hi folks, This Christmas I will have a break from grad school to focus on LTSP. It is my intent to fix a few problems to make an official (non-beta) release of K12Linux EL6. The last step will be to make a LiveDVD so you can install a pre-configured LTSP server complete with /opt/ltsp/i386. Before I begin work again, I need your feedback. What is important to you? https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/EL6Status Phase 4 as written on this page lists the components I will attempt to fix before rolling the LiveDVD. * Anything else you think is vitally important to fix before we remove the "Beta" tag? Currently the broken NBD boot in SL6 is the only "regression" from K12Linux Fedora circa-2009. Unfortunately... I have NO CLUE what the issue here is. It seems to work on some clients and broken on others. * Are non-English users out there happily using non-US keyboard layouts with K12Linux EL6? If so, please let us know your configurations so we can document it as examples for other users. * Beyond the SL6 LiveCD, what Desktop applications should I install by default in the K12Linux EL6 LiveDVD? * IMPORTANT: Which operating system should be /opt/ltsp/i386? Fedora 11? 14? SL6? Warren From burke at thealmquists.net Thu Oct 27 05:11:51 2011 From: burke at thealmquists.net (Burke Almquist) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 00:11:51 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Routing quandrum In-Reply-To: <1319547285.21436.26.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> References: <1319547285.21436.26.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> Message-ID: <1DE84A56-0C1A-4AD8-937F-F24B1B5D445E@thealmquists.net> Seems like a bug in android. They might not be setting the correct DNS/gateway information. It should be easy to find out what the issue is. You might want to install a terminal app on one of these Android devices your are having trouble with so you can try pinging stuff from either the HS or EL subnet. Start by pinging a PC on the same subnet as your device. If that works, your WAPs and switches within the subnet are not the cause of your issues. Then try pinging something on a different subnet from where you are, then something outside of your network(I know www.yahoo.com will respond to ping requests). You should get an idea from all of this where your traffic is getting lost. If all the pings work, then your issue is with the DNS settings/traffic to and from your android devices not your IP connection. Some things to remember when you are doing this ping testing. You need to be pinging based on IP address, and not names, to avoid introducing DNS into the mix. For pinging stuff outside your network www.yahoo.com always responds to pings. Some servers don't, so they aren't good to use in this test. You also need to make sure anything you ping inside your network will respond to pings and not just drop them due to a firewall. On Oct 25, 2011, at 7:54 AM, Barry Cisna wrote: > Hello All, > > This is not really K12LTSP specific, but wonder if anyone has by chance > run into the following. > Our school's LAN setup: > > Subnets; High School = 172.28.13.x > Elementary = 172.28.11.x > ServerRack = 172.28.8.x > IPPhones/teacherPC = 172.28.15.x > > K12LTSP server(s) provide routing/dhcp/dns settings for EL and HS > networks which in turn points to a pfSense router/firewall to internet > The IPPhones/Teachers network is routed to pfSense router/firewall > through a managed switch > The pfSense box has one nic for LAN and has static routes for each of > the subnets shown. > > Quandrum: Everything works fine with this setup and has for many > years,,,but,,, with the Android phones and Kendell tablets,,they will > not connect through APs plugged into EL and HS networks. > They will wifi fine on AP's on the .15/ teacher network which is not > being routed with a K12ltsp server. > I should state that the Android phones will in fact connect to AP's on > EL & HS networks,,,all ip information looks correct but simply will not > web browse. > It almost appears the 'double routing' may be making these devices > confused? > > I haven't had a chance to do the marathon Wireshark trace routine on > this to see how packets are failing on failing devices? > > Windows mobile ,,and Blackberrys works fine on any subnet,though via > wifi. > Just curious if anyone has run into this scenario? > > Take Care, > Barry > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From skerr at rx30.com Thu Oct 27 12:33:24 2011 From: skerr at rx30.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:33:24 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Problems loading Kernel on new install In-Reply-To: <4EA8DD93.70101@togami.com> References: <4EA05DDF.9060000@rx30.com> <4EA1781F.7070601@rx30.com> <4EA8DD93.70101@togami.com> Message-ID: <4EA94F94.207@rx30.com> actually I have .. eventually I noticed you made a notation that there were bugs with CentOS6, so I went and installed a fresh copy of SL6.1 I followed the instructions to setup the EL6 root. I only have a single nic in the box I'm using as a server, Dell precision T3500, but set it up to act like the second nic, the TC network nic. set the interface to include the bridge statement as per instruction. I'm using the stock /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf and /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/lts.conf files. I'm using ltsp-dhcpd on standard port 67. Im using the default 172. address scheme. I was going thru a managed switch, but now have my one year old Dell inspiron laptop connected directly to the server and pxe boot. It will find the server, get an address in the range given in dhcpd.conf. It will load the kernel.ie; "dracut: Starting Plymouth daemon", then see about 50 lines of my laptops hardware detected, but it will not load the root. I get a dracut warning "No root device "dhcp" found". I went into pxelinux.cfg/default and added rdshell to the initrd line. I also played around with root line trying some different things to no avail. I also copied the root-path statement in the nested if loop and pasted it under the next server statement in dhcp.conf just to be sure its seen. It seems that I have the same basic problem I was having before. I just, for some reason, cannot mount the chroot. (Almost) All my earlier attempts using the jammins and CentOS6 would end with dracut warnings. There doesnt seem to be any noticeable change at all if I try using nbd. ( tried with Fedora 11 root. I have both installed, /opt/ltsp/fed11-i386 and /opt/ltsp/i386 ) I must be doing something fundamentally wrong somewhere, but dont know what. Im sitting here at a debug shell plotting my next move. On 10/27/2011 12:26 AM, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: > On 10/21/2011 3:48 AM, Steve wrote: >> After poking around some, I discovered gdm was not configured to allow >> remote >> X connections, so I edited custom.conf apropriately, in hope I'll >> sometime get far enough that >> it matters. > Modern LTSP does not use XDMCP so this is not related to your problem. > > More likely the Geode GX2 in the Jammin-125 is just too old and broken > to work with the Fedora 11 kernel. Did you try modifying the > /opt/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default file to make it display verbose > messages? > > Warren > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julius at turtle.com Thu Oct 27 13:27:43 2011 From: julius at turtle.com (Julius Szelagiewicz) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:27:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [K12OSN] What is important to you? In-Reply-To: <4EA8E4A7.3030903@togami.com> Message-ID: My $.02 - use SL6 for LTSP kernel - long life rules. julius On Wed, 26 Oct 2011, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: > Hi folks, > > This Christmas I will have a break from grad school to focus on LTSP. > It is my intent to fix a few problems to make an official (non-beta) > release of K12Linux EL6. The last step will be to make a LiveDVD so you > can install a pre-configured LTSP server complete with /opt/ltsp/i386. > > Before I begin work again, I need your feedback. What is important to you? > > https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/EL6Status > Phase 4 as written on this page lists the components I will attempt to > fix before rolling the LiveDVD. > > * Anything else you think is vitally important to fix before we remove > the "Beta" tag? Currently the broken NBD boot in SL6 is the only > "regression" from K12Linux Fedora circa-2009. Unfortunately... I have > NO CLUE what the issue here is. It seems to work on some clients and > broken on others. > > * Are non-English users out there happily using non-US keyboard layouts > with K12Linux EL6? If so, please let us know your configurations so we > can document it as examples for other users. > > * Beyond the SL6 LiveCD, what Desktop applications should I install by > default in the K12Linux EL6 LiveDVD? > > * IMPORTANT: Which operating system should be /opt/ltsp/i386? Fedora > 11? 14? SL6? > > Warren > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From africanmalaika at yahoo.com Thu Oct 27 14:00:07 2011 From: africanmalaika at yahoo.com (African Malaika) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 07:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [K12OSN] What is important to you? In-Reply-To: References: <4EA8E4A7.3030903@togami.com> Message-ID: <1319724007.65773.YahooMailNeo@web114317.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi Julius? I would be interested in a live dvd as I am helping schools in africa. thanks fiona ________________________________ From: Julius Szelagiewicz To: Support list for open source software in schools. Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [K12OSN] What is important to you? My $.02 - use SL6 for LTSP kernel - long life rules. julius On Wed, 26 Oct 2011, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: > Hi folks, > > This Christmas I will have a break from grad school to focus on LTSP. > It is my intent to fix a few problems to make an official (non-beta) > release of K12Linux EL6.? The last step will be to make a LiveDVD so you > can install a pre-configured LTSP server complete with /opt/ltsp/i386. > > Before I begin work again, I need your feedback.? What is important to you? > > https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/EL6Status > Phase 4 as written on this page lists the components I will attempt to > fix before rolling the LiveDVD. > > * Anything else you think is vitally important to fix before we remove > the "Beta" tag?? Currently the broken NBD boot in SL6 is the only > "regression" from K12Linux Fedora circa-2009.? Unfortunately... I have > NO CLUE what the issue here is.? It seems to work on some clients and > broken on others. > > * Are non-English users out there happily using non-US keyboard layouts > with K12Linux EL6?? If so, please let us know your configurations so we > can document it as examples for other users. > > * Beyond the SL6 LiveCD, what Desktop applications should I install by > default in the K12Linux EL6 LiveDVD? > > * IMPORTANT: Which operating system should be /opt/ltsp/i386?? Fedora > 11?? 14?? SL6? > > Warren > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at siddall.name Thu Oct 27 14:06:55 2011 From: news at siddall.name (Jeff Siddall) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:06:55 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] What is important to you? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EA9657F.809@siddall.name> On 10/27/2011 09:27 AM, Julius Szelagiewicz wrote: > My $.02 - use SL6 for LTSP kernel - long life rules. > julius Seconded. I don't want to have to maintain separate distributions for the client if I don't have to. Jeff From news at siddall.name Thu Oct 27 14:16:17 2011 From: news at siddall.name (Jeff Siddall) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:16:17 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] What is important to you? In-Reply-To: <4EA8E4A7.3030903@togami.com> References: <4EA8E4A7.3030903@togami.com> Message-ID: <4EA967B1.2020604@siddall.name> High on my list are some things that are low on yours: 1. Make KDE, XFCE, LXDE auto-detect the USB storage plug event -Since I don't run Gnome on any of my clients this is significant 2. Investigate ltsp "Fat Client" support -Things are snappier on a fat client but administration of LTSP make it attractive to use it for everything. Jeff From skerr at rx30.com Thu Oct 27 14:22:27 2011 From: skerr at rx30.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:22:27 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Problems loading Kernel on new install In-Reply-To: <4EA94F94.207@rx30.com> References: <4EA05DDF.9060000@rx30.com> <4EA1781F.7070601@rx30.com> <4EA8DD93.70101@togami.com> <4EA94F94.207@rx30.com> Message-ID: <4EA96923.90105@rx30.com> So as I mentioned, I see my laptop hardware being detected, scsi, ata, sr0,sd, etc. I dont see any nic, should I ? I also used some dracut nfs syntax in pxelinux.cfg/default to try to point it to the chroot root=172.31.100.254:/opt/ltsp/i386,ro dracut warning on client No root device "nfs" found at dracut# I ran ip addr show and I get 1: lo: ..... only the loopback , no other interface. I tried /sbin/ifup/etho but not found Is it possible I dont have the correct drivers in the ramdisk for 2 diff generations of jammins and the dell inspiron, or am I barking up the wrong tree ?? On 10/27/2011 08:33 AM, Steve wrote: > actually I have .. eventually > > I noticed you made a notation that there were bugs with CentOS6, so I > went and installed a fresh copy of SL6.1 > > I followed the instructions to setup the EL6 root. I only have a > single nic in the box I'm using as a server, Dell precision T3500, > but set it up to act like the second nic, the TC network nic. set the > interface to include the bridge statement as per instruction. > > I'm using the stock /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf and > /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/lts.conf files. I'm using ltsp-dhcpd on > standard port 67. Im using the default > 172. address scheme. > > I was going thru a managed switch, but now have my one year old Dell > inspiron laptop connected directly to the server and pxe boot. > > It will find the server, get an address in the range given in > dhcpd.conf. It will load the kernel.ie; "dracut: Starting Plymouth > daemon", then see > about 50 lines of my laptops hardware detected, but it will not load > the root. > > I get a dracut warning "No root device "dhcp" found". I went into > pxelinux.cfg/default and added rdshell to the initrd line. I also > played around with > root line trying some different things to no avail. I also copied the > root-path statement in the nested if loop and pasted it under the next > server statement in dhcp.conf > just to be sure its seen. > > It seems that I have the same basic problem I was having before. I > just, for some reason, cannot mount the chroot. > (Almost) All my earlier attempts using the jammins and CentOS6 would > end with dracut warnings. > > There doesnt seem to be any noticeable change at all if I try using > nbd. ( tried with Fedora 11 root. I have both installed, > /opt/ltsp/fed11-i386 and /opt/ltsp/i386 ) > > I must be doing something fundamentally wrong somewhere, but dont know > what. Im sitting here at a debug shell plotting my next move. > > On 10/27/2011 12:26 AM, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: >> On 10/21/2011 3:48 AM, Steve wrote: >>> After poking around some, I discovered gdm was not configured to allow >>> remote >>> X connections, so I edited custom.conf apropriately, in hope I'll >>> sometime get far enough that >>> it matters. >> Modern LTSP does not use XDMCP so this is not related to your problem. >> >> More likely the Geode GX2 in the Jammin-125 is just too old and broken >> to work with the Fedora 11 kernel. Did you try modifying the >> /opt/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default file to make it display verbose >> messages? >> >> Warren >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skerr at rx30.com Thu Oct 27 15:05:06 2011 From: skerr at rx30.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:05:06 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Problems loading Kernel on new install In-Reply-To: <1319373250.10623.78.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1319373250.10623.78.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4EA97322.9000403@rx30.com> Thanks for your suggestions Barry, As per my response to Warren, I did simplify my network setup as much as possible. I have everything working on port 67 and the plan is to get a working baseline and make my neccessary modifications in increments until if/when something breaks. Im starting to think maybe the LTSP kernel doesnt contain nic drivers for my laptop (Atheros PCIE) or my 2 jammin TC's (unknown nic) That being said, Id still like to try your suggestion, can you give me a little clarification on what you mean by "append the nic,,for mac address,,,x.y.z in the pxe file,,,for each TC " I suspect your referring to /pxelinux.cfg/default ?? sorry if I'm a bit daft. On 10/23/2011 08:34 AM, Barry R Cisna wrote: > Steve, > > After looking at your down line posts it does appear dhcp is not the > problem you are facing. > > See if you can find another old pc box with a floppy drive slap in a > realtek 8139 pci nic,,for simplicity, and build a couple floppies setup > for port 1067 from here: > > http://rom-o-matic.net/ > > > If this setup does in fact boot,a simple guess would be you need to > append the nic,,for mac address,,,x.y.z in the pxe file,,,for each TC. > This is what appears to be happening to me. > > Make sure you aren't running a managed switch in between server and TC. > > Good Luck, > Barry > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmalone at nrao.edu Thu Oct 27 15:38:35 2011 From: jmalone at nrao.edu (Josh Malone) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:38:35 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] =?utf-8?q?What_is_important_to_you=3F?= In-Reply-To: <4EA9657F.809@siddall.name> References: <4EA9657F.809@siddall.name> Message-ID: On 27.10.2011 10:06, Jeff Siddall wrote: > On 10/27/2011 09:27 AM, Julius Szelagiewicz wrote: >> My $.02 - use SL6 for LTSP kernel - long life rules. >> julius > > Seconded. I don't want to have to maintain separate distributions > for the client if I don't have to. And third. We're an RHEL6 shop and SL6 is nice for the client chroot for us, too. Also: > High on my list are some things that are low on yours: > >1. Make KDE, XFCE, LXDE auto-detect the USB storage plug event > -Since I don't run Gnome on any of my clients this is > significant Second, too. Gnome just doesn't like living in an NFS-homedir setup with people logging in on >1 machine. KDE works fine, however. -Josh -- --------------------------------------------------------- Joshua Malone Systems Administrator (jmalone at nrao.edu) NRAO Charlottesville 434-296-0263 www.nrao.edu 434-249-5699 (mobile) BOFH excuse #452: Somebody ran the operating system through a spelling checker --------------------------------------------------------- From odin at gnuskole.no Thu Oct 27 16:50:51 2011 From: odin at gnuskole.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Odin_N=F8sen?=) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:50:51 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] What is important to you? In-Reply-To: <4EA8E4A7.3030903@togami.com> References: <4EA8E4A7.3030903@togami.com> Message-ID: > > * Are non-English users out there happily using non-US keyboard layouts > with K12Linux EL6? If so, please let us know your configurations so we can > document it as examples for other users. > Jupp - Norwegians are happy! Our lts.conf looks like this: [default] X_COLOR_DEPTH=16 LOCALDEV=True SOUND=True NBD_SWAP=True SYSLOG_HOST=server LDM_GLOBAL_DMRC=/etc/ltsp/ldm-global-dmrc LANG = nb_NO.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES = nb_NO.UTF-8 XKBLAYOUT=no LDM_NUMLOCK=true SCREEN_01=ldm SCREEN_02=shell VOLUME=100 HEADPHONE_VOLUME=90 PCM_VOLUME=90 CD_VOLUME=90 FRONT_VOLUME=90 TIMEZONE=GMT+01 TIMESERVER=10.0.255.1 LDM_DIRECTX=yes LDM_DEBUG=no TIMEZONE doesn't seems to work though... We've had to make ldm at SCREEN_01 to make the ltsp-client work - to get the client to boot in graphical mode. * IMPORTANT: Which operating system should be /opt/ltsp/i386? Fedora 11? > 14? SL6? > SL6! Odin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From warren at togami.com Thu Oct 27 19:02:07 2011 From: warren at togami.com (Warren Togami Jr.) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:02:07 -1000 Subject: [K12OSN] Problems loading Kernel on new install In-Reply-To: <4EA97322.9000403@rx30.com> References: <1319373250.10623.78.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4EA97322.9000403@rx30.com> Message-ID: <4EA9AAAF.8040804@togami.com> On 10/27/2011 5:05 AM, Steve wrote: > Im starting to think maybe the > LTSP kernel doesnt contain nic drivers for my laptop (Atheros PCIE) or > my 2 jammin TC's (unknown nic) https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/VirtualPXEClient Does the LTSP server have hardware virtualization support? Does the virtual PXE client successfully boot to the login screen? This *SHOULD* work. If it doesn't work you have some kind of misconfiguration somewhere. Warren From warren at togami.com Thu Oct 27 19:05:49 2011 From: warren at togami.com (Warren Togami Jr.) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:05:49 -1000 Subject: [K12OSN] What is important to you? In-Reply-To: References: <4EA9657F.809@siddall.name> Message-ID: <4EA9AB8D.4050409@togami.com> On 10/27/2011 5:38 AM, Josh Malone wrote: > Also: > >> High on my list are some things that are low on yours: >> >> 1. Make KDE, XFCE, LXDE auto-detect the USB storage plug event >> -Since I don't run Gnome on any of my clients this is >> significant > > Second, too. Gnome just doesn't like living in an NFS-homedir setup with > people logging in on >1 machine. KDE works fine, however. Thank you for the feedback. I agree GNOME has always been a problem with shared homedirs... and now Fedora 15+ GNOME 3 is far less capable with LTSP. I will attempt a non-GNOME option. Warren From skerr at rx30.com Thu Oct 27 20:25:53 2011 From: skerr at rx30.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:25:53 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Problems loading Kernel on new install In-Reply-To: <4EA9AAAF.8040804@togami.com> References: <1319373250.10623.78.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4EA97322.9000403@rx30.com> <4EA9AAAF.8040804@togami.com> Message-ID: <4EA9BE51.4020704@rx30.com> # egrep -o '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo # looks like no hw virtualization support On 10/27/2011 03:02 PM, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: > On 10/27/2011 5:05 AM, Steve wrote: >> Im starting to think maybe the >> LTSP kernel doesnt contain nic drivers for my laptop (Atheros PCIE) or >> my 2 jammin TC's (unknown nic) > https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/VirtualPXEClient > Does the LTSP server have hardware virtualization support? Does the > virtual PXE client successfully boot to the login screen? This *SHOULD* > work. If it doesn't work you have some kind of misconfiguration somewhere. > > Warren > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skerr at rx30.com Thu Oct 27 22:03:15 2011 From: skerr at rx30.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:03:15 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Problems loading Kernel on new install In-Reply-To: <4EA8DD93.70101@togami.com> References: <4EA05DDF.9060000@rx30.com> <4EA1781F.7070601@rx30.com> <4EA8DD93.70101@togami.com> Message-ID: <4EA9D523.5040700@rx30.com> On 10/27/2011 12:26 AM, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: > More likely the Geode GX2 in the Jammin-125 is just too old and broken > to work with the Fedora 11 kernel. My main goal is to upgrade my kickstart to CentOS 6 and I need to be able to support many many hundreds of legacy jammins. I originally tried to bolt my existing LTSP solution onto cent 6 but the jammins are having a hard time loading X. they'll ,sometimes, get to a login screen then freeze, if they accept input at all. They seem ok at console. well, looks like the jammin has an RTL8139 nic, pretty well supported I would think. dont think my no nic support in EL6 kernel theory holds water. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jvermeulen at cawdekempen.be Fri Oct 28 04:10:15 2011 From: jvermeulen at cawdekempen.be (Johan Vermeulen) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 06:10:15 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] What is important to you? In-Reply-To: <4EA9AB8D.4050409@togami.com> References: <4EA9657F.809@siddall.name> <4EA9AB8D.4050409@togami.com> Message-ID: <4EAA2B27.5060301@cawdekempen.be> Op 27-10-11 21:05, Warren Togami Jr. schreef: > On 10/27/2011 5:38 AM, Josh Malone wrote: >> Also: >> >>> High on my list are some things that are low on yours: >>> >>> 1. Make KDE, XFCE, LXDE auto-detect the USB storage plug event >>> -Since I don't run Gnome on any of my clients this is >>> significant >> >> Second, too. Gnome just doesn't like living in an NFS-homedir setup with >> people logging in on >1 machine. KDE works fine, however. > > > Thank you for the feedback. I agree GNOME has always been a problem > with shared homedirs... and now Fedora 15+ GNOME 3 is far less capable > with LTSP. I will attempt a non-GNOME option. > > Warren Hello, another one for EL6, and the keyboard setting for Belgian azerty keyboard works. I will convert the first of 14 sites to K12 in 2 weeks. They are now on Opensuse Kiwi-ltsp. Thanks for all the work ! greetings, James > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From warren at togami.com Fri Oct 28 05:38:29 2011 From: warren at togami.com (Warren Togami Jr.) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:38:29 -1000 Subject: [K12OSN] Problems loading Kernel on new install In-Reply-To: <4EA9D523.5040700@rx30.com> References: <4EA05DDF.9060000@rx30.com> <4EA1781F.7070601@rx30.com> <4EA8DD93.70101@togami.com> <4EA9D523.5040700@rx30.com> Message-ID: <4EAA3FD5.9020107@togami.com> On 10/27/2011 12:03 PM, Steve wrote: > > > On 10/27/2011 12:26 AM, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: >> More likely the Geode GX2 in the Jammin-125 is just too old and broken >> to work with the Fedora 11 kernel. > > My main goal is to upgrade my kickstart to CentOS 6 and I need to be > able to support many many > hundreds of legacy jammins. I originally tried to bolt my existing LTSP > solution onto cent 6 but the jammins > are having a hard time loading X. they'll ,sometimes, get to a login > screen then freeze, if they accept input at all. > They seem ok at console. > > well, looks like the jammin has an RTL8139 nic, pretty well supported I > would think. dont think my no nic support > in EL6 kernel theory holds water. SL6 kernel will not support the Jammin's. F11 *maybe*. Your best bet might be to install a very old LTSPv4 and grab its /opt/ltsp/i386 and /tftpboot/ files, use that to boot your Jammin's, and have them XDMCP into the server. That will require modifying the gdm configuration manually. I think this means you wont have sound or remote USB storage. Warren From warren at togami.com Fri Oct 28 05:39:20 2011 From: warren at togami.com (Warren Togami Jr.) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:39:20 -1000 Subject: [K12OSN] What is important to you? In-Reply-To: <4EAA2B27.5060301@cawdekempen.be> References: <4EA9657F.809@siddall.name> <4EA9AB8D.4050409@togami.com> <4EAA2B27.5060301@cawdekempen.be> Message-ID: <4EAA4008.4020104@togami.com> On 10/27/2011 6:10 PM, Johan Vermeulen wrote: > > > Op 27-10-11 21:05, Warren Togami Jr. schreef: >> On 10/27/2011 5:38 AM, Josh Malone wrote: >>> Also: >>> >>>> High on my list are some things that are low on yours: >>>> >>>> 1. Make KDE, XFCE, LXDE auto-detect the USB storage plug event >>>> -Since I don't run Gnome on any of my clients this is >>>> significant >>> >>> Second, too. Gnome just doesn't like living in an NFS-homedir setup with >>> people logging in on >1 machine. KDE works fine, however. >> >> >> Thank you for the feedback. I agree GNOME has always been a problem >> with shared homedirs... and now Fedora 15+ GNOME 3 is far less capable >> with LTSP. I will attempt a non-GNOME option. >> >> Warren > > Hello, > > another one for EL6, and the keyboard setting for Belgian azerty > keyboard works. Could you please provide the lts.conf options you used for this? I would like to document the different languages on the Wiki. Warren From monteslu at cox.net Fri Oct 28 12:25:20 2011 From: monteslu at cox.net (Luis Montes) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 05:25:20 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Problems loading Kernel on new install In-Reply-To: <4EAA3FD5.9020107@togami.com> References: <4EA05DDF.9060000@rx30.com> <4EA1781F.7070601@rx30.com> <4EA8DD93.70101@togami.com> <4EA9D523.5040700@rx30.com> <4EAA3FD5.9020107@togami.com> Message-ID: <4EAA9F30.3040007@cox.net> I've got a bunch of old jammins (150s?) and some ntavos. They only want to boot up with the F11 chroot. Warren Togami Jr. wrote: > On 10/27/2011 12:03 PM, Steve wrote: >> >> >> On 10/27/2011 12:26 AM, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: >>> More likely the Geode GX2 in the Jammin-125 is just too old and broken >>> to work with the Fedora 11 kernel. >> >> My main goal is to upgrade my kickstart to CentOS 6 and I need to be >> able to support many many >> hundreds of legacy jammins. I originally tried to bolt my existing LTSP >> solution onto cent 6 but the jammins >> are having a hard time loading X. they'll ,sometimes, get to a login >> screen then freeze, if they accept input at all. >> They seem ok at console. >> >> well, looks like the jammin has an RTL8139 nic, pretty well supported I >> would think. dont think my no nic support >> in EL6 kernel theory holds water. > > SL6 kernel will not support the Jammin's. F11 *maybe*. > > Your best bet might be to install a very old LTSPv4 and grab its > /opt/ltsp/i386 and /tftpboot/ files, use that to boot your Jammin's, > and have them XDMCP into the server. That will require modifying the > gdm configuration manually. I think this means you wont have sound or > remote USB storage. > > Warren > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From kent at structural-wood.com Fri Oct 28 12:30:34 2011 From: kent at structural-wood.com (Kent Schumacher) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 07:30:34 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Success with running LTSP from Fedora 15 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9C5FB5.1090505@structural-wood.com> Message-ID: <4EAAA06A.9010505@structural-wood.com> On 10/26/2011 11:22 PM, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: > On 10/17/2011 7:02 AM, Kent Schumacher wrote: >> I just successfully booted both an Atom based Shuttle XS35 and and an >> old Diskless Workstations LTSP-150 from a Fedora 15 installation. >> >> On first login I received a complaint that Gnome 3 wasn't able to run, >> but when that was dismissed I was left with a reasonably functional >> desktop. >> >> I've tried running Firefox 7.01 and LibreOffice 3.3.3 and they both work >> well. Firefox 7 is noticeably faster than the Firefox 3 I was running >> from Fedora 11 on the same hardware. >> >> The highlights of how to do it are: >> >> 1) Modify /etc/sysconfig/ltspdist to allow install on F15 >> 2) ltsp-build-client --release 14 >> 3) ltsp-build-client --release 11 --chroot ltsp-f11 >> >> It would be good if I didn't need to modify ltspdist. I'll write up >> complete instructions if anyone is interested. >> >> I'm very happy to be able to be running Fedora 15. It's nice to have the >> latest Firefox and LibreOffice. > > OK... I'll add this as an option in the next release so folks wont need > to edit files to install a Fedora 14 client chroot on Fedora 15 or 16 > LTSP server. > > Warren > I just returned from vacation and found this great news - thanks Warren! This will really help in continuing to use LTSP at the company I work at. We've been running into websites demanding a very recent release of firefox, so being able to run off a distro that is always at the cutting edge is necessary for us. (To the people who asked me for a writeup - with Warren adding this as part of the package, no writeup will be needed). Thanks again - Kent From ltsp at symbio-technologies.com Fri Oct 28 17:51:43 2011 From: ltsp at symbio-technologies.com (Gideon Romm) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:51:43 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] What is important to you? In-Reply-To: References: <4EA8E4A7.3030903@togami.com> Message-ID: Try: TIMEZONE = "Europe/Oslo" -Gadi On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Odin N?sen wrote: >> * Are non-English users out there happily using non-US keyboard layouts >> with K12Linux EL6? ?If so, please let us know your configurations so we can >> document it as examples for other users. > > Jupp - Norwegians are happy! Our lts.conf looks like this: > [default] > ? ? X_COLOR_DEPTH=16 > ? ? LOCALDEV=True > ? ? SOUND=True > ? ? NBD_SWAP=True > ? ? SYSLOG_HOST=server > ? ? LDM_GLOBAL_DMRC=/etc/ltsp/ldm-global-dmrc > ? ? LANG = nb_NO.UTF-8 > ? ? LC_MESSAGES = nb_NO.UTF-8 > ? ? XKBLAYOUT=no > ? ? LDM_NUMLOCK=true > ? ? SCREEN_01=ldm > ? ? SCREEN_02=shell > ? ? VOLUME=100 > ? ? HEADPHONE_VOLUME=90 > ? ? PCM_VOLUME=90 > ? ? CD_VOLUME=90 > ? ? FRONT_VOLUME=90 > ? ? TIMEZONE=GMT+01 > ? ? TIMESERVER=10.0.255.1 > ? ? LDM_DIRECTX=yes > ? ? LDM_DEBUG=no > TIMEZONE doesn't seems to work though... > We've had to make ldm at SCREEN_01 to make the ltsp-client work - to get the > client to boot in graphical mode. >> >> * IMPORTANT: Which operating system should be /opt/ltsp/i386? ?Fedora 11? >> ?14? ?SL6? > > SL6! > > Odin > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From accessys at smart.net Fri Oct 28 20:17:39 2011 From: accessys at smart.net (accessys at smart.net) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:17:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [K12OSN] What is important to you? In-Reply-To: References: <4EA8E4A7.3030903@togami.com> Message-ID: allow local selection of keyboard layout, I use the Dvorak keyboard myself Bob On Fri, 28 Oct 2011, Gideon Romm wrote: > Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:51:43 -0400 > From: Gideon Romm > Reply-To: Support list for open source software in schools. > > To: Support list for open source software in schools. > Subject: Re: [K12OSN] What is important to you? > > Try: > > TIMEZONE = "Europe/Oslo" > > -Gadi > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Odin N?sen wrote: >>> * Are non-English users out there happily using non-US keyboard layouts >>> with K12Linux EL6? ?If so, please let us know your configurations so we can >>> document it as examples for other users. >> >> Jupp - Norwegians are happy! Our lts.conf looks like this: >> [default] >> ? ? X_COLOR_DEPTH=16 >> ? ? LOCALDEV=True >> ? ? SOUND=True >> ? ? NBD_SWAP=True >> ? ? SYSLOG_HOST=server >> ? ? LDM_GLOBAL_DMRC=/etc/ltsp/ldm-global-dmrc >> ? ? LANG = nb_NO.UTF-8 >> ? ? LC_MESSAGES = nb_NO.UTF-8 >> ? ? XKBLAYOUT=no >> ? ? LDM_NUMLOCK=true >> ? ? SCREEN_01=ldm >> ? ? SCREEN_02=shell >> ? ? VOLUME=100 >> ? ? HEADPHONE_VOLUME=90 >> ? ? PCM_VOLUME=90 >> ? ? CD_VOLUME=90 >> ? ? FRONT_VOLUME=90 >> ? ? TIMEZONE=GMT+01 >> ? ? TIMESERVER=10.0.255.1 >> ? ? LDM_DIRECTX=yes >> ? ? LDM_DEBUG=no >> TIMEZONE doesn't seems to work though... >> We've had to make ldm at SCREEN_01 to make the ltsp-client work - to get the >> client to boot in graphical mode. >>> >>> * IMPORTANT: Which operating system should be /opt/ltsp/i386? ?Fedora 11? >>> ?14? ?SL6? >> >> SL6! >> >> Odin >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sun Oct 30 12:07:39 2011 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry R Cisna) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 07:07:39 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Web browser stability Message-ID: <1319976459.7705.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello All, I have asked this question a few times before,,and always end up getting suggestions as to 'what you need' type thing. Never get a definitive answer ,though:( Does anyone on the list here have ANY TC's that will run any web browser,,any build,,any spin,,etc,,etc., that will never blow shut from time to time? With our current setup,,the web browser going shut/dying is very very seldom,,but in the course of a month the web browser will simply close on any given website. What I have found personally just doing a 'mouseover' is what usually kills the web browser. Never have figured out why that is. Just to get the 'your need more memory' , in the TC' suggestion,,I have tried a fairly recent box booting pxe with 2 GB of ram installed and it will in time blow the web browser shut. Been using K12ltsp since it's inception and this has happened on every iteration,,,since then,unfortunately. So,,,does anyone have a TC combo that web browser is 100% stable? I'd like to hear what it is? Take Care, Barry From jim.kinney at gmail.com Sun Oct 30 13:44:52 2011 From: jim.kinney at gmail.com (Jim Kinney) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 09:44:52 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Web browser stability In-Reply-To: <1319976459.7705.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1319976459.7705.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: I would think it's more a browser issue than browser in a tc setting. I've hit some sites that would shutdown firefox on my desktop or cause it to hang and force a kill -9. It was more prevalent with earlier versions than the 7 I run now. It seemed related to really bad jscript, not javascript, which is Microsoft's mutation. Same site with noscript would not crash. Try loading up the latest firefox and run through the bad site list. The error handling is much better. On Oct 30, 2011 8:10 AM, "Barry R Cisna" wrote: > Hello All, > > I have asked this question a few times before,,and always end up getting > suggestions as to 'what you need' type thing. Never get a definitive > answer ,though:( > > Does anyone on the list here have ANY TC's that will run any web > browser,,any build,,any spin,,etc,,etc., that will never blow shut from > time to time? > With our current setup,,the web browser going shut/dying is very very > seldom,,but in the course of a month the web browser will simply close > on any given website. What I have found personally just doing a > 'mouseover' is what usually kills the web browser. Never have figured > out why that is. > > Just to get the 'your need more memory' , in the TC' suggestion,,I have > tried a fairly recent box booting pxe with 2 GB of ram installed and it > will in time blow the web browser shut. > Been using K12ltsp since it's inception and this has happened on every > iteration,,,since then,unfortunately. > > So,,,does anyone have a TC combo that web browser is 100% stable? > I'd like to hear what it is? > > Take Care, > Barry > > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: