<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi all, First this is NOT a commercial pitch !! OK now to serious stuff, I have set-up a commercial company XTlabs Corp ( <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.xtlabs.org">www.xtlabs.org</a>), with the specific purpose of deploying thin-client technology in educational and commercial environments. That said, with regrets, school boards in Montreal recognize the advantages of K12LTSP but are reluctant to actually implement it. We have run an extremely successful pilot in one of the larger school boards and have demonstrated unequivocally that this works! The bureaucrats argue that they will have to introduce yet another OS into the boards ( however they are using MAC OSX !!!! and Novell) and they will have to train techs to support this new technology. However if they train the techs, they (techs) will have better marketability & therefore will leave for better jobs. So as to placate the tech fears that their jobs will disappear the boards have elected to spend 3 to 4 times more on M$ systems that they cannot currently support with their existing resources- perfectly logical !! Small & medium businesses are somewhat more open but there is a major education process needed to convince them that this is LEGAL ! "What no license fees ! How can this be legitimate?" If my two cents worth is of any value, there still is a lot of work to do for this to be accepted. Some companies remember previous sales pitches on thin-client technology that did not materialize nor work. I would suggest a centralized repository of both companies promoting thin-client solutions and those using them. XTlabs would gladly donate the web space for such an undertaking. Rally to the OpenSource cause!!! regards norbert <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:networkr0@cfl.rr.com">networkr0@cfl.rr.com</a> wrote: <blockquote cite="mid414205CD.3060002@cfl.rr.com" type="cite"> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> I appreciate the commercial nature of the post. After all, once businesses see the value in LTSP, the Linux community can benefit significantly in the long run. I have been trialing several K12LTSP distro's for over a year now and am beginning to see a compelling argument to deploy K12LTSP and thin clients in a business environment. Google city of "Largo LTSP", which should give you a success story if you haven't already read it. <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:steve@hargadon.com">steve@hargadon.com</a> wrote: <blockquote cite="mid258730-22004951016323667@M2W074.mail2web.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">My company sells refurbished Dell Optiplex computers, which work well with LTSP, and we have large quantities of identical machines. We're still working on a price point for selling them with a bootable nic as LTSP workstations--any feedback? I've also thought about creating pre-installed LTSP packages for small organizations--where we install LTSP on a server, and send it preconfigured with user logons, workstations, a switch, and cabling so someone would plug it in and be going right away. We have all the hardware to do it, it would just be a matter of marketing. Is there anyone else to whom this would be appealing? Hope the commercial direction of this post is OK. Steve Original Message: ----------------- From: Stephen J Smoogen <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:smoogen@lanl.gov">smoogen@lanl.gov</a> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:47:32 -0600 To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:steve@hargadon.com">steve@hargadon.com</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:k12osn@redhat.com">k12osn@redhat.com</a> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] K12LTSP Presentation and Contact List <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:steve@hargadon.com">steve@hargadon.com</a> wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Next week I am giving a presentation on K12LTSP to the Non-Commercial Refurbishers Summit in Chicago. (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://pcsforschools.org/ncrs/standards.html">http://pcsforschools.org/ncrs/standards.html</a>) What started originally as a 15 minute slot has now been expanded to 90 minutes, and they have asked me to set up a working lab as well. Attending will be non-profit computer refurbishers from all over the country (and some international as well). As a part of my presentation, I'd like to present a list of schools and businesses who are running LTSP--both to show some of the scope of implementation, and also to serve as a resource. If you would be comfortable being listed, would you please send me a note with your </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">contact </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">information? Last month I helped a charter school in Hawaii install K12LTSP, and I am working with the Candian government to set up 2,000 LTSP labs in Kenya, Africa (which should be about 40,000 workstations). For the last 16 years my company has refurbished computer equipment, and schools and school districts have been some of our most consistent customers. I have three demonstrations of K12LTSP scheduled this month, and I am interested in providing K12LTSP installation and consulting as a part of our services. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">I </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">would also welcome any help, advice, or contact related to this as well. I really appreciate all who have worked to create such a great use for </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">used </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">computers, and I have found this list to be an enormously helpful </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">resource. </pre> <pre wrap=""> I think this list would be useful in other ways. I have a bunch of schools in this state that would really benefit from this, but they need to know that it is being used elsewhere and have contacts to talk to before believing a wild eyed scientist. I would also like to get a good list of refurbishers.. I have a long list of non-profits with small pockets and they would like to get a good list of people to buy from. </pre> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Brian Chase Phone: 386-775-5366 2345 Hillside Ave. Fax: 309-276-2048 Orange City, FL 32763 Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:networkr0@cfl.rr.com">networkr0@cfl.rr.com</a></pre> <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:K12OSN@redhat.com">K12OSN@redhat.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn</a> For more info see <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.k12os.org"><http://www.k12os.org></a> </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>