<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi David, Believe it was a difficult decision !!! After working like hell to get M$ out of the lab, there I was having to sneak in a W2K server :-( . Why W2K versus Server 2003....... well for one the testing of Server 2003 although impressive on the performance side was a paid on the security & notification part, second there was no viable educational discount and last but most important, the local computer recycling/refurbishing has an agreement with M$ where both the server AND CALS are free for non-profit, i.e. educational. So all facts considered this was the best one. Just a note of caution the M$ server needs to be a high powered machine !!!! nb. During the demo of an rdesktop session to the school, the single fact that convinced them that this was real, i.e not some fancy programming trick, was when the BSD -> Blue Screen of Death appeared in the terminal session. Then when I simply switched to another active window and continued working oblivious to the M$ crash it finally sunk in ....... norbert <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dtrask@vcs.u52.k12.me.us">dtrask@vcs.u52.k12.me.us</a> wrote: <blockquote cite="midfc.004c57de0014df833b9aca00249d05a4.14df8a@vcs.u52.k12.me.us" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I have to agree with Norbert. I'm actually in the midst of my "experiment" at this point and I must say it's working great! I bought a Windows 2003 Terminal Server CD and 100 Terminal Server CALs (not bad....I spent $400+ in all I think). I installed it on my old K12LTSP server (dual Pentuim III 1.x ghz....3 GB RAM) and simply joined the domain. Since my Samba/LDAP server is the PDC hosting all the home dirs and roaming profiles....setting this thing up was almost as easy as setting up K12LTSP. I didn't have to add any users since all authentication and so forth is on my Samba/LDAP server. Now....all my users do to get to the Windows Terminal Server is fire up their Linux terminal....log in....go to the IceWM start menu....click on "Connect to Windows"....enter their password (username and domain are already filled in since I use the following command rdesktop -f -a 16 -d mydomain 10.0.6.254 The Windows desktop comes up and away they go! It's fast and since it's a seperate session I've noticed virtually zero impact on the rest of my K12LTSP network....the CPU on the K12LTSP server isn't affected at all and the bandwidth doesn't seem to be any worse than a traditional LTSP session. It's proving to be a great way to have our cake and eat it too. 90% of the time the kids work in Linux, but I am also using PowerPoint (once in a while) and so forth to draw the parallels between that and OO so the kids can be exposed to and use whatever they may encounter. Kinda' like driver's ed....we don't teach kids to drive Fords...we teach them to drive cars. We don't teach Windows...we teach concepts that apply to any app...Windows, Linux or Mac OS X....etc. (Although we all prefer Linux :-) ) "Support list for opensource software in schools." <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:k12osn@redhat.com"><k12osn@redhat.com></a> on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 at 7:36 PM +0000 wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Hi, After considering ALL factors specifically in an educational context, I wouldn't suggest either solution! We have tried them all and have come to the conclusion that, ( and note I have a great deal of disdain for M$ products!!! ), the best solution for multiple users where specific Windows applications are mandatory is to have a W2K server on the K12ltsp network and use rdesktop to open M$ sessions. Compare cost, compatibility & performance & the W2K server wins out. Now note that this uses costing for educational institutions as a benchmark for comparison. regards norbert </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> David N. Trask Technology Teacher/Coordinator Vassalboro Community School <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dtrask@vcs.u52.k12.me.us">dtrask@vcs.u52.k12.me.us</a> (207)923-3100 _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:K12OSN@redhat.com">K12OSN@redhat.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn</a> For more info see <<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.k12os.org">http://www.k12os.org</a></pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>