Sorry for going over this again, but I have a sound issue on the clients (which is the driving factor towards moving to 4.4.1) In the test thjn client, I am having difficulties with sound using esd and gnome under version 4.4.1. The test server was built by taking all the defaults in the 4.4.1 installation. I have also tried with all defaults and yum -y upgrade with exact same results. Both the thin client and the server have the same sound integrated i810_audio. When I log into the thin client as root, sound works well under xmms, rhythmbox (with gstreamer-plugins), gstreamer-properties, sounds from the sound server under gnome, etc.....even the volume controls show up. esdplay /usr/share/sounds/phone.wav works well. using "tcpdump | grep 16001" on the server console when running the command esdplay /usr/share/sounds/phone.wav on the thin clien , I see a lot of activity. but when I login as any user, nothing works. using gstreamer-properties, when I test esd, nothing. esdplay /usr/share/sounds/phone.wav, nothing. I do not get errors from esdplay, gstreamer-properties test returns "failed to construct test pipeline for "ESD - Enlightenment Sound Daemon" "tcpdump | grep 16001" does not return any activity. I think this is a rights issue, or setup of esd, but I am unable to locate / or solve the issue. Any help, guidence would be appreciated. I thank you in advance for any assistance solving this issue, norm