Python is always my favorite. Starlogo is another to use. I wish there was a real version of Flash for Linux. I guess the questions they need to answer is how important is Flash and Actionscript in the curriculum? Would <a href="http://f4l.sourceforge.net/"> http://f4l.sourceforge.net/</a> (a stipped down swf creator) do what they need? Are the old machines really that old, or do they just want to update to get the latest version of flash? <div> On 5/11/06, Petre Scheie <<a href="mailto:petre@maltzen.net">petre@maltzen.net</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> At my kids' school, the two computer teachers are trying to get money for upgrading their computer lab for next fall. They've calculated that they need ~$32k to replace 25 machines with 3ghz P4s with 1GB RAM; they also want to replace the CRTs with flat panels to reduce the heat in the room, which is problem. They're being told there isn't that much money available. I suggested that they look at buying/building a beefy LTSP server and use the existing machines as clients. One of their hesitations has to do with programming: they teach a class on Flash, which I expect would be impossible to do on Linux. They also teach Java which would not be a problem on Linux. My question is what programming classes are people giving using their LTSP environments? While I question the value of teaching Flash programming at the high school level, I think an argument can be made for it in the sense that people & businesses do like to use the things it provides. But I think if I can suggest alternatives--and I don't mean just a replacement for Flash, but rather a list of languages that other schools are teaching--it might make a difference. Petre _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list <a href="mailto:K12OSN@redhat.com">K12OSN@redhat.com </a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn</a> For more info see <<a href="http://www.k12os.org">http://www.k12os.org</a>> </blockquote></div>