<div>On 8/22/06, Jim McQuillan <<a href="mailto:jam@mcquil.com">jam@mcquil.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Petre, I think there's 2 issues: 1) Prior to LTSP-4.2 (k12ltsp-5.0), we had both <a href="http://X.org">X.org</a> AND a much older xfree86 v3.3.6. The 'vidlist' file pointed to the xfree86 3.3.6 drivers for cards like the s3 and s3v. In LTSP-4.2 we dropped the older stuff because it was quite a bit of overhead to have both. Unfortunately, the drivers in Xfree86 4.x and <a href="http://X.org"> X.org</a> still aren't very good for the s3 cards. 2) There seems to be some new bugs in Xorg for the i810 chipsets. I haven't had a chance to dig in and see what's going on there. For #1, I hope that support for s3 cards will improve over time. For #2, I'm certain that i810 support will be fixed, if it's not already. In fact, with Keith Packard working at Intel now, the quality of the drivers for Intel chipsets will definitely be getting a lot better. </blockquote><div> Yes, it's nice to have Keith working for Intel. I'm sure he had something to do with this <a href="http://intellinuxgraphics.org/">http://intellinuxgraphics.org/</a> </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Jim. Petre Scheie wrote: > This is an irresponsible, anecdotal reply, but it seems to me that as > <a href="http://X.org">X.org</a> has evolved, I've had to specify VESA for the video for more and > more of my older machines. I say this is irresponsible because I > haven't actually documented the pattern. It just seems that back in > the last Xfree86 days, K12LTSP 3.x, most of my old machines, which > tended to have old video cards with just 2MB of RAM, worked without > any special configuration. Those same machines sometimes have had > difficulty getting X to start with later versions of K12LTSP using > <a href="http://X.org">X.org</a>. In most cases, setting the xserver to VESA fixed the problem, > although sometimes a few more tweaks like memory size were necessary. > The i810 video chipset is a common culprit; there's a lot of > discussion in the archives about how to get it working. > > Petre > > Timothy Hart wrote: >> With teachers coming back and putting their rooms back together I am >> finally >> able to test the classroom K12LTSP clients thoroughly. >> They are all different old boxes. On a lot of them I am now getting >> garbled >> video and failed xstartups. They seemed to have worked in K12LTSP 4. I >> recently updated to 5. Could this just be that I need to tell the server >> what each of these "non working" graphics card is so it will send the >> right >> settings? Anyone else experience similar problems? >> >> Tim >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> <a href="mailto:K12OSN@redhat.com">K12OSN@redhat.com</a> >> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn</a> >> For more info see < <a href="http://www.k12os.org">http://www.k12os.org</a>> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > <a href="mailto:K12OSN@redhat.com">K12OSN@redhat.com</a> > <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn</a> > For more info see <<a href="http://www.k12os.org">http://www.k12os.org</a>> _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list <a href="mailto:K12OSN@redhat.com">K12OSN@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn</a> For more info see <<a href="http://www.k12os.org"> http://www.k12os.org</a>> </blockquote></div> -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada Fl_TeacherTool <a href="http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/"> http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/</a> C++ GUI tutorial <a href="http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/">http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/</a>