At NCS, we use Type to Learn, and until any of the other packages provide the means of tracking student progress, producing reports, and ... all the things that TTL does, I am afraid the typing teacher is not going to give up the package. Now, TuxPaint works very well and the same goes for books. Although, we also have reading specialists that want to track progress as well. Seems we have fallen under the spell that 'if it is computerized, it must be better'. Now, if I can just wait till it is warm enough to sit outside and lean against a tree with a book. Sincerely, Dave Hopkins <div>On 3/3/07, "Terrell Prudé Jr." <<a href="mailto:microman@cmosnetworks.com">microman@cmosnetworks.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hmm...for Type to Learn, why not use GTypist (older kids) or TuxType (younger kids)? For KidPix, why not use TuxPaint? And for Reading Counts, why not just use a book? Any reason why these wouldn't work in your situation? --TP <div>_______________________________ Do you GNU!? <a href="http://www.gnu.org/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">Microsoft Free since 2003</a>--the ultimate antivirus protection! </div> Kemp, Levi wrote: <blockquote cite="http://midF61B3F3722111146AF452DF29FDCCF5F02717126@xchg03.bolivar.k12.mo.us" type="cite"> <div> Would using WINE be the same as "Ericom software – a Citrix alternative -- enabled the terminals to run the district's existing and irreplaceable Microsoft Windows educational applications, including Type to Learn, Reading Counts and Kid Pix." as stated in the article? 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It looks to me that they had a couple of issues: User permissions for files and thin clients. I do not understand the comment that they had to add one user at a time. That is the Windows way. In Linux, one would use scripts and it would take minutes. Perhaps they had to get the info out of AD first... That makes sense if they wanted to keep users connected to their data. I had the privilege of creating a system with no user history. I created staff accounts from a list of usernames and created student accounts using APG (Automatic Password Generator). I had teachers associate student names with account userids. They could have solved their problems by grouping staff, teachers, students. Perhaps they had staff that moved between buildings... I have never seen a Linux system that would not work with thin clients. Use LTSP to boot the thin clients and an X connection to whatever server you run. I guess they got locked into Suse and their way of doing things and it did not fit their setup. That is the problem with migration. You try to do the same old thing with the new system when it is unnatural. I say, make a clean break with the old system, automate account generation and migrate the data. If Windows will not produce clean text files with user information, scan the system with a Linux live CD or whatever to harvest the information. If file directories match usernames, and teachers and students are segragated it shoud be doable. Robert Pogson On Thu, 2007-01-03 at 20:32 -0500, <a href="mailto:k12osn-request@redhat.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">k12osn-request@redhat.com</a> wrote: <tt>From: Sergio Chaves <<a href="mailto:sergio@turbocorp.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">sergio@turbocorp.com</a>></tt> <tt>Subject: [K12OSN] OT:Microsoft Windows ousted at California school</tt> <tt> district</tt> <tt>To: <a href="mailto:k12osn@redhat.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">k12osn@redhat.com </a></tt> <tt>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:200703011316.15838.sergio@turbocorp.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> 200703011316.15838.sergio@turbocorp.com</a>></tt> <tt>Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1"</tt> <tt>It would be better if it was LTSP but still a nice headline to read on a rainy </tt> <tt>morning here in ATL.</tt> <tt><a href="http://searchopensource.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid39_gci1245710,00.htm" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> http://searchopensource.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid39_gci1245710,00.htm</a></tt> <table style="width: 100%;" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in;"> <pre> </pre> <pre>-- </pre> <pre>A problem is an opportunity.</pre> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> <pre><hr size="4" width="90%"> _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list <a href="mailto:K12OSN@redhat.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">K12OSN@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn</a> For more info see <a href="http://www.k12os.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"><http://www.k12os.org></a></pre> </blockquote> </div> _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:K12OSN@redhat.com">K12OSN@redhat.com</a> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn" target="_blank"> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn</a> For more info see <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.k12os.org" target="_blank">http://www.k12os.org</a>> </blockquote> </div>