<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> That's probably because that Marvell piece of junk is cheaper and he thought he could pull a fast one. I've seen that trick many, many times. Way to catch him, and make sure that his boss's boss knows. --TP <div class="moz-signature">_______________________________ Do you GNU!? <a href="http://www.gnu.org/">Microsoft Free since 2003</a>--the ultimate antivirus protection! </div> Daniel Bodanske wrote: <blockquote cite="midac9673bf0705072055n31af561enb3e63ff8ede6aa66@mail.gmail.com" type="cite">I ordered a new computer from the local shop last week. I went all Intel specifically because the drivers were in the kernel and I wouldn't have to mess around with anything. I gave the tech a list of specific, well-supported chips. I picked it up last night, went to install Ubuntu 7.04, and found he'd slipped a crap Marvel wireless card in instead of the Intel Pro I had ordered. Sometimes, even when you research and plan, you still can't get things to work. Dan On 5/8/07, Jason Neiffer <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:neiffer@gmail.com"><neiffer@gmail.com></a> wrote: <blockquote type="cite">I have had great luck with the nVidia drivers, too, especially in Ubuntu. With the new closed-source driver install system in Ubuntu 7.04, it was literally three clicks to install. jn On 5/7/07, James P. Kinney III <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jkinney@localnetsolutions.com"><jkinney@localnetsolutions.com></a> wrote: > On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 21:03 -0400, "Terrell Prudé Jr." wrote: > > I'd ditch the nVidious graphics if at all possible and go for laptops > > that have Intel video. If anything, that should make it cost *less*. > > You're right; purchase price cannot be the only determining factor. > > You've also got to ask yourself how much it's going to cost you in > > time to make some nVidious or Broadcom crap actually work with > > GNU/Linux. That time expenditure can, as I found, be very significant > > indeed. > > > NVdia graphics chips always work with Linux. They (NVidia) may not have > an open source driver, but the driver they have is top notch. The > disaster with laptop video happens with the use of shared RAM. All of > the Intel video I have ever seen in a laptop use shared RAM. It is > possible to get dedicated graphics RAM with NVidia chips in laptops. > > Making a laptop work with Linux is no easy matter. The overall quantity > of no-driver hardware on the systems is frustrating. The only advantage > of Dell joining the fray on supplying laptops with Linux is it _may_ > help push some stubborn manufacturers into writing drivers for Linux or > opening up their specs so someone else can. > > > --TP > > _______________________________ > > Do you GNU!? > > Microsoft Free since 2003--the ultimate antivirus protection! > > > > > > > > Timothy Hart wrote: > > > The prices on system76 don't seem that crazy. Maybe I just haven't > > > compared enough, but looks pretty good to me. Built in camera, > > > nVidia 256MB graphics, non broadcom wireless. I didn't think I was > > > crazy when I thought Dell wasn't doing it yet. I did have a D610 > > > running Mepis and a couple other distros. Took me a while to get the > > > wireless going but it worked eventually. > > > > > > Paul, I have no problem with a company making a profit. Far from it. > > > I just like it when companies embrace open source as a business > > > model. Yes, Dell is "finally" getting on board. I don't want to get > > > hosed on price, but it isn't the only thing I am looking for. That > > > is why I am wondering about what others think. > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > On 5/7/07, Jonathan Carter < <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jonathan@ubuntu.com">jonathan@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: > > > Hi Timothy > > > > > > Timothy Hart wrote: > > > > Has anyone ever used any of the laptops from system76 > > > > (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://system76.com">http://system76.com</a>). I need a new Linux laptop and heard > > > about them on > > > > the Linux Action Show. Wondering if anyone has had some > > > first hand (or > > > > second or third) knowledge about them. Thanks. > > > > > > I've met quite a few System76 laptop users this week (here > > > at the Ubuntu > > > developers summit in Spain), and everyone I've met who has > > > one is quite > > > happy with their system. The hardware really doesn't look > > > too bad > > > either, compared to other decent laptop brands. > > > > > > -Jonathan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > K12OSN mailing list > > > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:K12OSN@redhat.com">K12OSN@redhat.com</a> > > > <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn</a> > > > For more info see <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.k12os.org">< http://www.k12os.org></a> > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > K12OSN mailing list > > > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:K12OSN@redhat.com">K12OSN@redhat.com</a> > > > <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn</a> > > > For more info see <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.k12os.org"><http://www.k12os.org></a> > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:K12OSN@redhat.com">K12OSN@redhat.com</a> > > <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn</a> > > For more info see <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.k12os.org"><http://www.k12os.org></a> > -- > James P. 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