Thanks Jim, I found good instruction from NetBSD on those AIO G3's. It talks about how the firmware needs to be upgraded and a file placed in it or instructions given to it...haven't processed it all yet. I am going to give that a try on Monday. I think some of the ones we have MAY have come with 100MB, I will have to check into that. If they are 10Mb yeah that just might make it a bit too slow as i used a 10T hub to test thing to start and it was pretty slow. If anyone is interested <a href="http://www.netbsd.org/docs/network/netboot/intro.macppc.html">http://www.netbsd.org/docs/network/netboot/intro.macppc.html</a> was the link for diskless NetBSD booting I was referring too. The kind folks in #ltsp on <a href="http://irc.freenode.net">irc.freenode.net</a> gave me that link. <div>On 7/13/07, Jim Kronebusch <<a href="mailto:jim@winonacotter.org">jim@winonacotter.org </a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:18:22 -0400, Shane Sammons wrote > Has anyone used the older PowerMac G3's that are encased in an all in one > unit as Thin Clients? I searched the Wiki to no avail. I believe it can > network boot. However, I had no luck in doing so. I have only been able to > get GX1's booting from my test server. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to push this project > forward to make a Library free of OS X systems we could use elsewhere to > make an entire second lab. > > Thanks for any help > --Shane I was able to boot some 5500's via instructions I received from Chuck Liebow a few years back. I wasn't happy enough with the performance from them. I think the same stuff could be used with G3 all-in-one's but if I remember right there was trouble getting a NIC that would work. The built in NIC is 10MB which isn't really sufficient, and there was only one or two add in NIC's that would work. Here is a website that describes configuring the nubus macs to work (ie 5500's) <a href="http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/solutions/champion_server/LTSP/">http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/solutions/champion_server/LTSP/</a> I really don't remember the particulars but I think the problem was definitely the NIC. What may be an easier solution is to find an old version of Yellow Dog Linux that would load on these machines with a minimal install and configure to do an X -query <a href="http://192.168.1.254">192.168.1.254 </a> or something on startup. This might be the easiest way to get all of the hardware recognized (along with a 100MB add-in nic which would be crucial for good performance) yet still be able to connect to the ltsp server. With a 100MB nic those machines should be great clients as they are the same specs as a Bondi iMac. If you can't get this to work, if you have any Bondi Blue iMacs (they actually look like a crappy green) laying around these would be your best option as they have a new enough firmware to support network booting and you can hardcode the firmware to boot right to ltsp without any user interaction or local software. Good luck. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the Cotter Technology Department, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list <a href="mailto:K12OSN@redhat.com">K12OSN@redhat.com </a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn</a> For more info see <<a href="http://www.k12os.org">http://www.k12os.org</a>> </blockquote></div>