<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> I've used Power Mac 5260's before during K12LTSP demos using Skip Gaede's Mach kernel. They not only are 10Mbps, but also 640x480x256! Surprisingly, they were actually usable as K12LTSP thin clients. But iMac G3's are way better, and that's because of A.) the higher video resolution available, and B.) the 100Mbps video cards. --TP <div class="moz-signature">_______________________________ Do you GNU!? <a href="http://www.gnu.org/">Microsoft Free since 2003</a>--the ultimate antivirus protection! </div> Shane Sammons wrote: <blockquote cite="mid3610bbec0707131258wff1e19dq464235968d9d6eab@mail.gmail.com" type="cite">Thanks Jim, I found good instruction from NetBSD on those AIO G3's. It talks about how the firmware needs to be upgraded and a file placed in it or instructions given to it...haven't processed it all yet. I am going to give that a try on Monday. I think some of the ones we have MAY have come with 100MB, I will have to check into that. If they are 10Mb yeah that just might make it a bit too slow as i used a 10T hub to test thing to start and it was pretty slow. If anyone is interested <a href="http://www.netbsd.org/docs/network/netboot/intro.macppc.html">http://www.netbsd.org/docs/network/netboot/intro.macppc.html</a> was the link for diskless NetBSD booting I was referring too. The kind folks in #ltsp on <a href="http://irc.freenode.net">irc.freenode.net</a> gave me that link. <div>On 7/13/07, Jim Kronebusch <<a href="mailto:jim@winonacotter.org">jim@winonacotter.org </a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:18:22 -0400, Shane Sammons wrote > Has anyone used the older PowerMac G3's that are encased in an all in one > unit as Thin Clients? I searched the Wiki to no avail. I believe it can > network boot. However, I had no luck in doing so. I have only been able to > get GX1's booting from my test server. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to push this project > forward to make a Library free of OS X systems we could use elsewhere to > make an entire second lab. > > Thanks for any help > --Shane I was able to boot some 5500's via instructions I received from Chuck Liebow a few years back. I wasn't happy enough with the performance from them. I think the same stuff could be used with G3 all-in-one's but if I remember right there was trouble getting a NIC that would work. The built in NIC is 10MB which isn't really sufficient, and there was only one or two add in NIC's that would work. Here is a website that describes configuring the nubus macs to work (ie 5500's) <a href="http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/solutions/champion_server/LTSP/">http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/solutions/champion_server/LTSP/</a> I really don't remember the particulars but I think the problem was definitely the NIC. What may be an easier solution is to find an old version of Yellow Dog Linux that would load on these machines with a minimal install and configure to do an X -query <a href="http://192.168.1.254">192.168.1.254 </a> or something on startup. This might be the easiest way to get all of the hardware recognized (along with a 100MB add-in nic which would be crucial for good performance) yet still be able to connect to the ltsp server. With a 100MB nic those machines should be great clients as they are the same specs as a Bondi iMac. If you can't get this to work, if you have any Bondi Blue iMacs (they actually look like a crappy green) laying around these would be your best option as they have a new enough firmware to support network booting and you can hardcode the firmware to boot right to ltsp without any user interaction or local software. Good luck. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the Cotter Technology Department, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list <a href="mailto:K12OSN@redhat.com">K12OSN@redhat.com </a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn</a> For more info see <<a href="http://www.k12os.org">http://www.k12os.org</a>> </blockquote> </div> <pre wrap=""> <hr size="4" width="90%"> _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:K12OSN@redhat.com">K12OSN@redhat.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn</a> For more info see <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.k12os.org"><http://www.k12os.org></a></pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>