<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=us-ascii" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> That's like saying that you can take a secretary who "knows Windows" and have her set up a domain forest for your enterprise. Probably not going to work out too well. You need to know what you're doing before you do it, regardless of which platform you're using. If you don't, then bring in someone who does. The "point 'n' click just like XP" mentality simply doesn't cut it on networks of any decent size. This is the same mentality of the "helpful" people (read: teachers and principals) who bring their "point 'n' click" wireless access points in from home, with DHCP still turned on, and take down the whole school as a result. --TP <div class="moz-signature">_______________________________ Do you <a href="http://www.gnu.org">GNU</a>? <a href="http://www.cmosnetworks.com">Microsoft Free since 2003</a>--the ultimate antivirus protection! </div> Kemp, Levi wrote: <blockquote cite="midF61B3F3722111146AF452DF29FDCCF5F037FF19D@xchg03.bolivar.k12.mo.us" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Les, It's not that I hate linux, I'm simply lazy. To be honest a lot of Network Admins are. I avoid using CLI if I can, sometimes I cannot so I learn it, use it, forget it, and move on. You have to admit though, if you can create something easy to use and setup out of an OS that needs the push then why not. I'm with Huck on this one. It's the end product that matters the most to your users, how you get there doesn't matter to them. But if there is an easier way that lets you do more and get more done, and doesn't break the budget, well that's the way I'll go. For example, I used K12LTSP at home because some genius made it so much simpler to get up and running then a plain Fedora 6 install. Sure I understand it now, but to a newbie in Linux I was thrilled to have things working so quickly. That's just my opinion of course and I don't want to start anything by it but I think that I'd have and easier time of getting an admin to switch to Linux servers if they could configure them without ever using a Linux OS before. Levi Kemp Technology Specialist Bolivar R-1 Schools 417-328-8943 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lnkemp@bolivar.k12.mo.us">lnkemp@bolivar.k12.mo.us</a> "The only secure computer is one that's unplugged, locked in a safe, and buried 20 feet under the ground in a secret location... and I'm not even too sure about that one" --Dennis Hughes, FBI -----Original Message----- From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:k12osn-bounces@redhat.com">k12osn-bounces@redhat.com</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:k12osn-bounces@redhat.com">mailto:k12osn-bounces@redhat.com</a>] On Behalf Of Les Mikesell Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:40 AM To: Support list for open source software in schools. Subject: Re: [K12OSN] RE SME Server Authentication Kemp, Levi wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Does Group office sync up with the ldap, and email already setup in </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">SME? </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I'm looking at the demo and I'm really impressed. It almost looks like you get everything a basic office worker needs right on a web page. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> I've always considered SME server to be 'Linux for people who don't like Linux', and the big thing missing is NFS for Linux clients. I think it may be possible to add that in now. </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>