<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> <blockquote cite="mid20071201192159.GB14160@hank.org" type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">BTW, Power Macs make pretty good LTSP thin clients. K12LTSP supports this out of the box. So you might not have to throw them away. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> The one Power Mac works ok -- just sounds like a Kerby vacuum when running. But most of the 60 or 70 machines are old iMacs. They work ok (still no sound due to pulseaudio/liboil "illegal instruction"), but are slow. </pre> </blockquote> That's interesting...it shouldn't make a doggone bit of difference whether you're running on a P4 thin client or an iMac thin client. Actually, the Power Mac client I was thinking of when I wrote the above was my orange iMac sitting in my living room! It's just about as fast as any other client I have. One of those other thin clients is a Sun Ultra 5 (270MHz CPU), and it, too, is a good performer because of its Fast Ethernet NIC. The most critical thing you need on the thin client for good general performance (e. g. OpenOffice.org and Firefox, not fancy 3-D graphics stuff like Compiz/Beryl) is a 100Mbps Full Duplex network connection. The server should of course have at least 1Gbps FDX. The built-in video, ATI 3D Rage Pro, will do nicely for that. Full-screen 320x240 video will drop a few frames, yes...but it does work. 640x480 hi-res videos, that might be painful.... <blockquote cite="mid20071201192159.GB14160@hank.org" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">The P4 1GB clients I have scream. ;) I'ld like to move to low-powered fan-less thin clients when possible. It would help keep up its "Green Business" status</pre> </blockquote> If you want to do that, then I would suggest Jim McQuillan's thin clients at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.disklessworkstations.com">http://www.disklessworkstations.com</a>. --TP </body> </html>