<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> And let's also add that the 54Mb/sec available with 802.11g is *shared* among all the wireless devices that associate with that wireless access point. Translation: HUB. Very bad for LTSP. If you need to go cheap, go for the MicroClient Jr SX from Norhtec (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.norhtec.com">http://www.norhtec.com</a>). They're something like US $85 a pop. Not blazing fast video, but it works. Low power, too, and even mounts on the back of an LCD monitor. If you need to go *really* cheap, then get some older Pentium II or III computers that PXE-boot, and simply pull out the hard drives. Companies are *dying* to get rid of these and will happily "unload" them to you. HP Vectra VL400's are good choices. Then, gradually replace them with MicroClients or something similar as time goes on. --TP <div class="moz-signature">_______________________________ Do you <a href="http://www.gnu.org">GNU</a>? <a href="http://www.cmosnetworks.com">Microsoft Free since 2003</a>--the ultimate antivirus protection! </div> James P. Kinney III wrote: <blockquote cite="mid1207710219.9622.27.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Ugh. Laptops require power, too. And unlike cheap desktops, laptops will require new batteries every year or so. So there is a constant repair process of $50/year/machine. Laptop carts are mostly designed to park laptops when not in use. If they aren't in use, why have them at all? Save yourself the headache and buy designed thin clients machines (small, lo cost, no moving parts, no Microsoft tax) and upgrade the power with the savings in not getting M$ Office (and all the upgrades it takes to run it in both software and hardware). Thin clients can use wireless but not K12LTSP in the default setup. To date, there is no way to do PXE boot over a wireless network so don't plan on going that route. You can use a flash drive for a base Linux system that supports wireless and then remote access X for the real stuff but you WILL have bandwidth issues. You could do the whole freeNX thing and do a compressed data stream but you will still have network security issues. Do you _really_ want kids wandering around with the computers? The Asus EeePC can connect to a remote X session just fine. The battery issue will still get you in about a year. Wireless is a myth. All electrical devices are tethered by a wire at some point. Wires are cheap and easy to use and maintain. A 24 port switch is under $100. You can't GET 20 students using a wireless access point with any usable bandwidth for less than $500. 802.11g is 51Mb/s. The cheap wire connections are 100Mb/s and don't care about the concrete walls dropping you bandwidth down to 2Mb/s (split between 12 people!). Wireless will not make heroes! On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 12:13 -0400, Will Hatch wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Our school is at a juncture where we have to decide between upgrading the electrical system so it can handle a permanent computer lab, or go with laptops of some kind that run off of a cart. The principle wants to go with the laptops because of cost. I priced out a couple different models of Dell, that would run Windows XP, and would coexist with our Windows 2003 server. But the cost is still more than we probably want to spend. Wireless is a must. I set up a k12ltsp network a few years back with good success. But I used desktop hardware and ethernet. I am wondering how wireless works with k12ltsp, and if there is a recommended make/model of inexpensive laptop that will do the job. Has anybody successfully set this up with the Asus EEE? Thanks for any help/suggestions. -Will *********************************** </pre> </blockquote> </blockquote> </body> </html>