When you go that route, you tie everyone to a computer for all work. I don't think of that as is a good thing. Computers are a tool. So are pen and paper. Schools need to teach pen and paper more so than computers. Not to say they don't need to teach computers (they do), but not to the exclusivity of pen and paper. --- Steven Santos Director P: 617-527-0667 F: 617-934-1870 E: Steven@SimplyCircus.com Simply Circus, Inc. 86 Los Angeles Street Newton, MA 02462 <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Barry R Cisna <<a href="mailto:brcisna@eazylivin.net">brcisna@eazylivin.net</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> Hello All, I would like to hear some peoples view on trying to make a school paperless. I'll start it out by saying teachers,admins can always argue it is not possible,due to send outs to mommy and poppy etc. Reason I am thinking of this at present, is your's truly deals with the paper ordered and handling,,,:( of the pallets (stacked who knows how high) of paper each year! This year our school went completely nuts going through paper 8x10. Needless to say the printer cartridges that have been consumed in this years time (can you say plotter!!!) is almost sickening. We have been down the print management route in the past restricting pages per day printed. That idea went down the tubes in the first week after lotsa leg work getting it setup and in place. I have found,,unfortunately it is pretty much useless to show teachers little hints in regards to this scenario as for whatever reason they do not even want to learn how to do anything 'new/different'. Example. I showed some teachers how to instead of 'printing off' umpteen pages,,for a 24 hour reference thing to save it as pdf,and send it to their home email if they like as well. How could this thing be any simpler? About 1 out of 10 I can tell thought it to be a good idea. I use the analogy printing stuff off is like daily newspapers. What they print will be looked at (maybe) regardless of the multitude of possibilities, and 24 hours it is going to be in the trash anyway. My take is if paperless is 'forced' on everyone within the school building/district people WILL learn to do it,and in time realize its much cleaner simpler,quicker way of doing what the papered setup 'used' to do. Argument will be made mom/pop at home that don't have two nickels to rub together don't have a PC,in their home, to view Sonny's detention for example. Bottom line I have found little 5 year old kids in K have a smartphone nowadays,that I know their folks don't have two nickels to rub together,so they surely have a pc at home as well. I'm sure at this point every school is using SMS software (we even have it here in Podunk,,,) ) but this is such a small piece of the paper glut in schools. Sorry for long post. Take Care, BC _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list <a href="mailto:K12OSN@redhat.com">K12OSN@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn</a> For more info see <<a href="http://www.k12os.org" target="_blank">http://www.k12os.org</a>> </blockquote></div>