<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 2:14 PM, David Kiarie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davidkiarie4@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidkiarie4@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 2:10 PM, David Kiarie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davidkiarie4@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidkiarie4@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_5038570446239882744h5">On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:berrange@redhat.com" target="_blank">berrange@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="m_5038570446239882744m_1272156233086746496HOEnZb"><div class="m_5038570446239882744m_1272156233086746496h5">On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 02:05:54PM +0300, David Kiarie wrote:<br> > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé <<a href="mailto:berrange@redhat.com" target="_blank">berrange@redhat.com</a>><br> > wrote:<br> > <br> > > On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 01:47:26PM +0300, David Kiarie wrote:<br> > > > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé <<a href="mailto:berrange@redhat.com" target="_blank">berrange@redhat.com</a>><br> > > > wrote:<br> > > ><br> > > > > On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 01:36:35PM +0300, David Kiarie wrote:<br> > > > > > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 1:18 PM, David Kiarie <<a href="mailto:davidkiarie4@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidkiarie4@gmail.com</a><br> > > ><br> > > > > wrote:<br> > > > > ><br> > > > > > ><br> > > > > > ><br> > > > > > > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 1:15 PM, David Kiarie <<br> > > <a href="mailto:davidkiarie4@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidkiarie4@gmail.com</a>><br> > > > > > > wrote:<br> > > > > > ><br> > > > > > >><br> > > > > > >><br> > > > > > >> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé <<br> > > > > <a href="mailto:berrange@redhat.com" target="_blank">berrange@redhat.com</a>><br> > > > > > >> wrote:<br> > > > > > >><br> > > > > > >>> On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 10:38:59AM +0200, Peter Krempa wrote:<br> > > > > > >>> > On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 08:51:01 +0100, Daniel Berrange wrote:<br> > > > > > >>> > > On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 09:14:29AM +0300, David Kiarie wrote:<br> > > > > > >>> > > ><br> > > > > > >>> > > > This is okay but this definitely wrong. And it does indeed<br> > > > > sound<br> > > > > > >>> wrong. And<br> > > > > > >>> > > > it will always sound wrong.<br> > > > > > >>> > > ><br> > > > > > >>> > > > Being involved in a GSoC project is not about<br> > > contributions.<br> > > > > And<br> > > > > > >>> also<br> > > > > > >>> > > > considering the scale of our project(some of the code even<br> > > > > never<br> > > > > > >>> got<br> > > > > > >>> > > > merged). There was a lot of research, design, planning,<br> > > > > > >>> implementation,<br> > > > > > >>> > > > review and finally the code got merged.<br> > > > > > >>> > > ><br> > > > > > >>> > > > I should at least be able to copyright the file. I mean,<br> > > Jim<br> > > > > was<br> > > > > > >>> my mentor,<br> > > > > > >>> > > > I did most of the work but his company copyright is right<br> > > at<br> > > > > the<br> > > > > > >>> top of the<br> > > > > > >>> > > > file - Does this sound okay to you ?<br> > > > > > >>> > ><br> > > > > > >>> > > You own copyright on any contributions you make, regardless<br> > > of<br> > > > > what<br> > > > > > >>> any<br> > > > > > >>> > > Copyright statement at the top of the file says. Just like<br> > > the<br> > > > > Author<br> > > > > > >>> > > lines in file headers, these Copyright lines in source files<br> > > are<br> > > > > at<br> > > > > > >>> best<br> > > > > > >>> > > outdated and incomplete. Anyone who wishes to identify the<br> > > > > copyright<br> > > > > > >>> > > ownership has no choice but to look at the git history which<br> > > > > records<br> > > > > > >>> > > exactly who wrote what.<br> > > > > > >>> ><br> > > > > > >>> > Soo, can we also delete the "Copyright ..." lines from the top<br> > > of<br> > > > > the<br> > > > > > >>> > license statement? That's a cleanup which I'll gladly do.<br> > > > > > >>><br> > > > > > >>> No, you can not delete other people's Copyright lines - they are<br> > > > > > >>> considered<br> > > > > > >>> part of the license notice so can only be altered by the<br> > > copyright<br> > > > > > >>> holder.<br> > > > > > >>><br> > > > > > >><br> > > > > > >> Suse copyright notice has been on this file since the day this<br> > > file<br> > > > > got<br> > > > > > >> merged. To be honest, I did most of the original work so why<br> > > should<br> > > > > Suse<br> > > > > > >> copyright appear here while me doesn't ?<br> > > > > > >><br> > > > > > ><br> > > > > > > Contrary to the fact that most libvirt developers work for a<br> > > company,<br> > > > > this<br> > > > > > > was mostly independent work.<br> > > > > > ><br> > > > > ><br> > > > > > And I totally don't have a problem with Suse copyrighting the file<br> > > but<br> > > > > why<br> > > > > > can't I do the same ?<br> > > > ><br> > > > > You can have Copyright line on any file you made non-trivial<br> > > contributions<br> > > > > too. It is upto the person contributing patches to add Copyright line<br> > > if<br> > > > > they wish to. The Suse copyright is there simply because their patch<br> > > > > author chose to add it when they contributed to that file.<br> > > > ><br> > > > > > Or, would you rather I use the pseudonym 'Oneko Ltd' instead of just<br> > > > > > 'Oneko' ?<br> > > > ><br> > > > > Copyright lines need to use legal real names, or company name, not<br> > > > > pseudonyms.<br> > > ><br> > > > In which case you mean that if I write a patch copyrighting these file on<br> > > > the company name 'Oneko and sons' you will merge that patch ?<br> > ><br> > > Depends on whether that company owns the copyright or not. Copyright is<br> > > owned by the individual who creates the work, unless a contract of<br> > > employment requires them to assign copyright to the company instead.<br> > > So unless you did your GSoC work under such a contract with that<br> > > company, it would be inappropriate to list them.<br> > <br> > <br> > But, the individual who created the work was a cat.<br> > <br> > Okay, I could copyright this on my name and cat email - does that sound<br> > okay ?<br> <br> </div></div>Ok, at this point I'm not going to merge any more patches, as I don't<br> have any confidence in the truth of what you're saying.<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div>It's not about confidence, it's about facts.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div>But, I think I get what you're saying when you say you don't have any confidence in what I am saying.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm definitely not a cat. And, I did some GSoC work but I want to distance myself from the work but still be able to prove that I did the work, just in case someone requires me to.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm Kenyan native - quite risky if I go around dumping code as if I was born in San <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Francisco.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">But I will, if someone makes it clear that whatever I want is not possible.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class="m_5038570446239882744m_1272156233086746496HOEnZb"><div class="m_5038570446239882744m_1272156233086746496h5"><br> Regards,<br> Daniel<br> -- <br> |: <a href="https://berrange.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://berrange.com</a> -o- <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.flickr.com/photos/<wbr>dberrange</a> :|<br> |: <a href="https://libvirt.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://libvirt.org</a> -o- <a href="https://fstop138.berrange.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://fstop138.berrange.com</a> :|<br> |: <a href="https://entangle-photo.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://entangle-photo.org</a> -o- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dberrange" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/dber<wbr>range</a> :|<br> </div></div></blockquote></span></div><br></div></div> </blockquote></span></div><br></div></div> </blockquote></div><br></div></div>