<div dir="ltr">I'll try that module and those rules out, thanks.<div> </div><div>Also, do you forsee issues with using 2.6.x userspace on ubuntu12.04, which is about four years old now? Its kernel version 3.2.0-99-generic.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Steve Grubb <<a href="mailto:sgrubb@redhat.com" target="_blank">sgrubb@redhat.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:22:57 AM EDT Chris Nandor wrote: > Secondary question: the reason for what I'm working on is that we want to > be able to audit what folks do as root on our production hosts. We're not > a bank, and a perfect solution is not required, but we do need to be able > to take reasonable steps to find out if people with access are doing bad > things. > > Is this setup reasonable for that purpose? Yes. You would want to do two things, first enable tty auditing. This is done by the pam_tty_audit module. Second consider adding the 32-power-abuse.rules to your rules. > I know that's a loaded question > and I can answer any questions anyone has that are necessary to figure this > out. I am not asking so much about rules, but about architecture: logging > according to whatever rules we set up, to the local audit.log and > immediately to a remote using audisp-remote, so the log can't be easily > manipulated. Remote logging is the defence against local log manipulation. -Steve <div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Steve Grubb <<a href="mailto:sgrubb@redhat.com">sgrubb@redhat.com</a>> wrote: > > On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 8:47:58 AM EDT Chris Nandor wrote: > > > Hi, I had some odd behavior to report. > > > > > > I am running ubuntu 12.04. Using the default auditd and audispd-plugins > > > packages for my release, I was able to get logs sent to local syslog and > > > > to > > > > > a remote auditd server (same basic configuration), but the entries were > > > being buffered somewhere (I think on the client side), and if the server > > > died reconnections didn't happen. > > > > > > So, I wanted a more recent version, so I compiled audit-userspace from > > > > the > > > > > github src mirror,* trunk@1341. > > > > The github repo is a mirror of svn and is not always up to date. The issue > > you > > are seeing is fixed in the next commit after the mirror stops. > > > > <a href="https://fedorahosted.org/audit/changeset/1342" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://fedorahosted.org/audit/changeset/1342</a> > > > > if you want the lastest you can: > > > > svn co <a href="http://svn.fedorahosted.org/svn/audit/trunk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://svn.fedorahosted.org/svn/audit/trunk</a> > > > > and then generate from there. I am planning to release audit-2.6.5 > > tomorrow. > > So, if anyone can test the current code, I'd really appreciate it. I'm > > hoping > > the next release settles down the audit code. > > > > > When I did, I got some weird results. For example, I expected got > > > > > > something like this in my audit.log: > > > node=<a href="http://host.example.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">host.example.com</a> type=CWD msg=audit(1468363871.644:3279856): > > > cwd="/etc/audisp" > > > > > > And that was as expected. In syslog, I expected to get: > > > Jul 13 08:34:53 host audispd: node=<a href="http://host.loc.example.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">host.loc.example.com</a> type=CWD > > > > > > msg=audit(1468363871.644:3279856): cwd="/etc/audisp" > > > > > > But instead, I got: > > > Jul 13 08:34:53 host audispd: type=CWD msg=node=<a href="http://host.loc.example.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">host.loc.example.com</a> > > > > > > type=CWD msg=audit(1468363871.644 > > > > > > As you can see, the whole thing was prepended with "type=CWD msg=", and > > > > the > > > > > line was truncated. Similarly, on the remote host, I got the same thing: > > > type=CWD msg=node=<a href="http://host.loc.example.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">host.loc.example.com</a> type=CWD > > > > msg=audit(1468363871.644 > > > > > I noticed that the most recent version of the src for ubuntu was 2.4.5, > > > > so > > > > > I grabbed the src tarball from packages.ubuntu and built it, and now > > > everything looks fine. The exact same line I see in my audit.log shows > > > > up > > > > > in the remote audit.log, with no buffering. When I restart the remote > > > auditd server or client, it reconnects. syslog has same entry > > > (prepended > > > with the timestamp etc.). Everything seems happy now. > > > > > > > > > *For some reason I had to define `CC_FOR_BUILD=gcc` in my shell when I > > > > ran > > > > > `make` from the svn/git src. I did not require this when building 2.4.5 > > > from the ubuntu src. > > > > I think that should have been detected during configure. > > > > -Steve </div></div></blockquote></div> </div>