Hello Javier use clustat -l on the node doesn't show the service <div class="gmail_quote">2012/6/20 Javier Vela <<a href="mailto:jvdiago@gmail.com" target="_blank">jvdiago@gmail.com</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi, Finally I solved the problem. First, the qdisk over lvm does not work very well. Switching to a plain device works better. And, as you stated, without a fence device is not possible to get the cluster to work well, so I`m going to push VMWare admins and use vmware fencing. I'm very grateful, I've been working on this problem 3 days without understanding what was happening, and with only a few emails the problem is solved. The only thing that bothers me is why cman doesn't advise you that without a proper fencing the cluster won't work. Moreover I haven't found in the Red Hat documentatión a statement telling what I've readed in the link you pasted: <blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Fencing is a absolutely critical part of clustering. Without fully working fence devices, your cluster will fail. </blockquote> I'm a bit sorry, but now I have another problem. With the cluster quorate and the two nodes online + qdisk, when I start rgmanager on one node, everything works ok, an the service starts. Then I start rgmanager in the other node, but in the second node clustat doesn't show the service: node2 (with the service working): [root@node2 ~]# clustat Cluster Status for test_cluster @ Wed Jun 20 16:21:19 2012 Member Status: Quorate Member Name ID Status ------ ---- ---- ------ node1-hb 1 Online node2-hb 2 Online, Local, rgmanager /dev/disk/by-path/pci-0000:02:01.0-scsi- 0 Online, Quorum Disk Service Name Owner (Last) State ------- ---- ----- ------ ----- service:postgres node2-hb started node1 (doesn't see the service) [root@node1 ~]# clustat Cluster Status for test_cluster @ Wed Jun 20 16:21:15 2012 Member Status: Quorate Member Name ID Status ------ ---- ---- ------ node1-hb 1 Online, Local node2-hb 2 Online /dev/disk/by-path/pci-0000:02:01.0-scsi- 0 Online, Quorum Disk In the /var/log/messages I don't see errors, only this: last message repeated X times ¿What I'm missing? As far I can see, rgmanager doesn't appear in node1, but: [root@node1 ~]# service rgmanager status Se estÃ¡ ejecutando clurgmgrd (pid 8254)... The cluster conf: <?xml version="1.0"?> <cluster alias="test_cluster" config_version="15" name="test_cluster"> <fence_daemon clean_start="0" post_fail_delay="0" post_join_delay="6"/> <clusternodes> <clusternode name="node1-hb" nodeid="1" votes="1"> <fence> <method name="manual"> <device name="fence_manual" nodename="node1-hb"/> </method> </fence> </clusternode> <clusternode name="node2-hb" nodeid="2" votes="1"> <fence> <method name="manual"> <device name="fence_manual" nodename="node2-hb"/> </method> </fence> </clusternode> </clusternodes> <cman two_node="0" expected_votes="3"/> <fencedevices> <fencedevice agent="fence_manual" name="fence_manual"/> </fencedevices> <rm log_facility="local4" log_level="7"> <failoverdomains> <failoverdomain name="etest_cluster_fo" nofailback="1" ordered="1" restricted="1"> <blockquote> <failoverdomainnode name="node1-hb" priority="1"/> <failoverdomainnode name="node2-hb" priority="2"/> </failoverdomain> </failoverdomains> <resources/> <service autostart="1" domain="test_cluster_fo" exclusive="0" name="postgres" recovery="relocate"> <ip address="172.24.119.44" monitor_link="1"/> <lvm name="vg_postgres" vg_name="vg_postgres" lv_name="postgres"/> <fs device="/dev/vg_postgres/postgres" force_fsck="1" force_unmount="1" fstype="ext3" mountpoint="/var/lib/pgsql" name="postgres" self_fence="0"/> <script file="/etc/init.d/postgresql" name="postgres"> </script> </service> </rm> <totem consensus="4000" join="60" token="20000" token_retransmits_before_loss_const="20"/> <quorumd interval="1" label="cluster_qdisk" tko="10" votes="1"> <heuristic program="/usr/share/cluster/check_eth_link.sh eth0" score="1" interval="2" tko="3"/> </quorumd> </cluster></blockquote> Regards, Javi. <div class="gmail_quote">2012/6/20 Digimer <<a href="mailto:lists@alteeve.ca" target="_blank">lists@alteeve.ca</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> It's worth re-stating; You are running an unsupported configuration. Please try to have the VMWare admins enable fence calls against your nodes and setup fencing. Until and unless you do, you will almost certainly run into problems, up to and including corrupting your data. Please take a minute to read this: <a href="https://alteeve.com/w/2-Node_Red_Hat_KVM_Cluster_Tutorial#Concept.3B_Fencing" target="_blank">https://alteeve.com/w/2-Node_Red_Hat_KVM_Cluster_Tutorial#Concept.3B_Fencing</a> Digimer<div> On 06/20/2012 11:22 AM, emmanuel segura wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div> Ok Javier So now i know you don't wanna the fencing and the reason :-) <fence_daemon clean_start="1" post_fail_delay="0" post_join_delay="-1"/> and use the fence_manual </div> 2012/6/20 Javier Vela <<a href="mailto:jvdiago@gmail.com" target="_blank">jvdiago@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jvdiago@gmail.com" target="_blank">jvdiago@gmail.com</a>>><div> I don't use fencing because with ha-lvm I thought that I dind't need it. But also because both nodes are VMs in VMWare. I know that there is a module to do fencing with vmware but I prefer to avoid it. I'm not in control of the VMWare infraestructure and probably VMWare admins won't give me the tools to use this module. Regards, Javi Fencing is critical, and running a cluster without fencing, even with qdisk, is not supported. Manual fencing is also not supported. The *only* way to have a reliable cluster, testing or production, is to use fencing. Why do you not wish to use it? On 06/20/2012 09:43 AM, Javier Vela wrote: > As I readed, if you use HA-LVM you don't need fencing because of vg > tagging. Is It absolutely mandatory to use fencing with qdisk? > > If it is, i supose i can use manual_fence, but in production I also > won't use fencing. > > Regards, Javi. > > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:45:28 +0200 </div> > <a href="mailto:From%3Aemi2fast@gmail.com" target="_blank">From:emi2fast@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:emi2fast@gmail.com" target="_blank">emi2fast@gmail.com</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:emi2fast@gmail.com" target="_blank">emi2fast@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:emi2fast@gmail.com" target="_blank">emi2fast@gmail.com</a>>> > <a href="mailto:To%3Alinux-cluster@redhat.com" target="_blank">To:linux-cluster@redhat.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:linux-cluster@redhat.com" target="_blank">linux-cluster@redhat.com</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:linux-cluster@redhat.com" target="_blank">linux-cluster@redhat.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:linux-cluster@redhat.com" target="_blank">linux-cluster@redhat.com</a>>><div> > Subject: Re: [Linux-cluster] Node can't join already quorated cluster > > If you don't wanna use a real fence divice, because you only do some > test, you have to use fence_manual agent > </div> > 2012/6/20 Javier Vela <<a href="mailto:jvdiago@gmail.com" target="_blank">jvdiago@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jvdiago@gmail.com" target="_blank">jvdiago@gmail.com</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jvdiago@gmail.com" target="_blank">jvdiago@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jvdiago@gmail.com" target="_blank">jvdiago@gmail.com</a>>>><div> <div> > > Hi, I have a very strange problem, and after searching through lot > of forums, I haven't found the solution. This is the scenario: > > Two node cluster with Red Hat 5.7, HA-LVM, no fencing and quorum > disk. I start qdiskd, cman and rgmanager on one node. After 5 > minutes, finally the fencing finishes and cluster get quorate with 2 > votes: > > [root@node2 ~]# clustat > Cluster Status for test_cluster @ Wed Jun 20 05:56:39 2012 > Member Status: Quorate > > Member Name ID Status > ------ ---- ---- ------ > node1-hb 1 Offline > node2-hb 2 Online, Local, rgmanager > /dev/mapper/vg_qdisk-lv_qdisk 0 Online, Quorum Disk > > Service Name Owner (Last) State > ------- ---- ----- ------ ----- > service:postgres node2 started > > Now, I start the second node. When cman reaches fencing, it hangs > for 5 minutes aprox, and finally fails. clustat says: > > root@node1 ~]# clustat > Cluster Status for test_cluster @ Wed Jun 20 06:01:12 2012 > Member Status: Inquorate > > Member Name ID Status > ------ ---- ---- ------ > node1-hb 1 Online, Local > node2-hb 2 Offline > /dev/mapper/vg_qdisk-lv_qdisk 0 Offline > > And in /var/log/messages I can see this errors: > > Jun 20 06:02:12 node1 openais[6098]: [TOTEM] entering OPERATIONAL state. > Jun 20 06:02:12 node1 openais[6098]: [CLM ] got nodejoin message > 15.15.2.10 > Jun 20 06:02:13 node1 dlm_controld[5386]: connect to ccs error -111, > check ccsd or cluster status > Jun 20 06:02:13 node1 ccsd[6090]: Cluster is not quorate. Refusing > connection. > Jun 20 06:02:13 node1 ccsd[6090]: Error while processing connect: > Connection refused > Jun 20 06:02:13 node1 ccsd[6090]: Initial status:: Inquorate > Jun 20 06:02:13 node1 gfs_controld[5392]: connect to ccs error -111, > check ccsd or cluster status > Jun 20 06:02:13 node1 ccsd[6090]: Cluster is not quorate. Refusing > connection. > Jun 20 06:02:13 node1 ccsd[6090]: Error while processing connect: > Connection refused > Jun 20 06:02:14 node1 openais[6098]: [TOTEM] entering GATHER state > from 9. > Jun 20 06:02:14 node1 ccsd[6090]: Cluster is not quorate. Refusing > connection. > Jun 20 06:02:14 node1 ccsd[6090]: Error while processing connect: > Connection refused > Jun 20 06:02:14 node1 ccsd[6090]: Cluster is not quorate. Refusing > connection. > Jun 20 06:02:14 node1 ccsd[6090]: Error while processing connect: > Connection refused > Jun 20 06:02:15 node1 ccsd[6090]: Cluster is not quorate. Refusing > connection. > Jun 20 06:02:15 node1 ccsd[6090]: Error while processing connect: > Connection refused > Jun 20 06:02:15 node1 ccsd[6090]: Cluster is not quorate. Refusing > connection. > Jun 20 06:02:15 node1 ccsd[6090]: Error while processing connect: > Connection refused > Jun 20 06:02:15 node1 ccsd[6090]: Cluster is not quorate. Refusing > connection. > Jun 20 06:02:15 node1 ccsd[6090]: Error while processing connect: > Connection refused > Jun 20 06:02:16 node1 ccsd[6090]: Cluster is not quorate. Refusing > connection. > Jun 20 06:02:16 node1 ccsd[6090]: Error while processing connect: > Connection refused > Jun 20 06:02:16 node1 ccsd[6090]: Cluster is not quorate. Refusing > connection. > Jun 20 06:02:16 node1 ccsd[6090]: Error while processing connect: > Connection refused > Jun 20 06:02:17 node1 ccsd[6090]: Cluster is not quorate. Refusing > connection. > Jun 20 06:02:17 node1 ccsd[6090]: Error while processing connect: > Connection refused > Jun 20 06:02:17 node1 ccsd[6090]: Cluster is not quorate. Refusing > connection. > Jun 20 06:02:17 node1 ccsd[6090]: Error while processing connect: > Connection refused > Jun 20 06:02:18 node1 openais[6098]: [TOTEM] entering GATHER state > from 0. > Jun 20 06:02:18 node1 openais[6098]: [TOTEM] Creating commit token > because I am the rep. > Jun 20 06:02:18 node1 openais[6098]: [TOTEM] Storing new sequence id > for ring 15c > Jun 20 06:02:18 node1 openais[6098]: [TOTEM] entering COMMIT state. > Jun 20 06:02:18 node1 openais[6098]: [TOTEM] entering RECOVERY state. > Jun 20 06:02:18 node1 openais[6098]: [TOTEM] position [0] member > 15.15.2.10 <<a href="http://15.15.2.10" target="_blank">http://15.15.2.10</a>>: > Jun 20 06:02:18 node1 openais[6098]: [TOTEM] previous ring seq 344 > rep 15.15.2.10 > Jun 20 06:02:18 node1 openais[6098]: [TOTEM] aru e high delivered e > received flag 1 > Jun 20 06:02:18 node1 openais[6098]: [TOTEM] Did not need to > originate any messages in recovery. > Jun 20 06:02:18 node1 openais[6098]: [TOTEM] Sending initial ORF token > Jun 20 06:02:18 node1 openais[6098]: [TOTEM] entering OPERATIONAL state. > Jun 20 06:02:18 node1 ccsd[6090]: Cluster is not quorate. Refusing > connection. > Jun 20 06:02:18 node1 ccsd[6090]: Error while processing connect: > Connection refused > Jun 20 06:02:18 node1 openais[6098]: [TOTEM] entering GATHER state > from 9. > Jun 20 06:02:18 node1 ccsd[6090]: Cluster is not quorate. Refusing > connection. > > And the quorum disk: > > [root@node2 ~]# mkqdisk -L -d > kqdisk v0.6.0 > /dev/mapper/vg_qdisk-lv_qdisk: > /dev/vg_qdisk/lv_qdisk: > Magic: eb7a62c2 > Label: cluster_qdisk > Created: Thu Jun 7 09:23:34 2012 > Host: node1 > Kernel Sector Size: 512 > Recorded Sector Size: 512 > > Status block for node 1 > Last updated by node 2 > Last updated on Wed Jun 20 06:17:23 2012 > State: Evicted > Flags: 0000 > Score: 0/0 > Average Cycle speed: 0.000500 seconds > Last Cycle speed: 0.000000 seconds > Incarnation: 4fe1a06c4fe1a06c > Status block for node 2 > Last updated by node 2 > Last updated on Wed Jun 20 07:09:38 2012 > State: Master > Flags: 0000 > Score: 0/0 > Average Cycle speed: 0.001000 seconds > Last Cycle speed: 0.000000 seconds > Incarnation: 4fe1a06c4fe1a06c > > > In the other node I don't see any errors in /var/log/messages. One > strange thing is that if I start cman on both nodes at the same > time, everything works fine and both nodes quorate (until I reboot > one node and the problem appears). I've checked that multicast is > working properly. With iperf I can send a receive multicast paquets. > Moreover I've seen with tcpdump the paquets that openais send when > cman is trying to start. I've readed about a bug in RH 5.3 with the > same behaviour, but it is solved in RH 5.4. > > I don't have Selinux enabled, and Iptables are also disabled. Here > is the cluster.conf simplified (with less services and resources). I > want to point out one thing. I have allow_kill="0" in order to avoid > fencing errors when quorum tries to fence a failed node. As <fence/> > is empty, before this stanza I got a lot of messages in > /var/log/messages with failed fencing. > > <?xml version="1.0"?> > <cluster alias="test_cluster" config_version="15" name="test_cluster"> > <fence_daemon clean_start="0" post_fail_delay="0" > post_join_delay="-1"/> > <clusternodes> > <clusternode name="node1-hb" nodeid="1" votes="1"> > <fence/> > </clusternode> > <clusternode name="node2-hb" nodeid="2" votes="1"> > <fence/> > </clusternode> > </clusternodes> > <cman two_node="0" expected_votes="3"/> > <fencedevices/> > > <rm log_facility="local4" log_level="7"> > <failoverdomains> > <failoverdomain name="etest_cluster_fo" > nofailback="1" ordered="1" restricted="1"> > <failoverdomainnode name="node1-hb" > priority="1"/> > <failoverdomainnode name="node2-hb" > priority="2"/> > </failoverdomain> > </failoverdomains> > <resources/> > <service autostart="1" domain="test_cluster_fo" > exclusive="0" name="postgres" recovery="relocate"> > <ip address="172.24.119.44" monitor_link="1"/> > <lvm name="vg_postgres" vg_name="vg_postgres" > lv_name="postgres"/> > > <fs device="/dev/vg_postgres/postgres" > force_fsck="1" force_unmount="1" fstype="ext3" > mountpoint="/var/lib/pgsql" name="postgres" self_fence="0"/> > > <script file="/etc/init.d/postgresql" name="postgres"> > </script> > </service> > </rm> > <totem consensus="4000" join="60" token="20000" > token_retransmits_before_loss_const="20"/> > <quorumd allow_kill="0" interval="1" label="cluster_qdisk" > tko="10" votes="1"> > <heuristic > program="/usr/share/cluster/check_eth_link.sh eth0" score="1" > interval="2" tko="3"/> > </quorumd> > </cluster> > > > The /etc/hosts: > 172.24.119.10 node1 > 172.24.119.34 node2 > 15.15.2.10 node1-hb node1-hb.localdomain > 15.15.2.11 node2-hb node2-hb.localdomain > > And the versions: > Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 5.7 (Tikanga) > cman-2.0.115-85.el5 > rgmanager-2.0.52-21.el5 > openais-0.80.6-30.el5 > > I don't know what else I should try, so if you can 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