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sounds like a plan!<div><br></div><div>If it would be helpful, I can pull together a list of good open image sources, for future reference. There's a surprising amount of good creative commons and public domain stuff out there if you know where to look. <br><div><br></div><div>Greg, when were you thinking this would go up on the site?</div><div><br></div><div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div>.. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. .</div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>Libby Levi</div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>Red Hat</div><div>Brand Communications + Design</div><div><a href="mailto:llevi@redhat.com">llevi@redhat.com</a></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Sanford Forte wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Libby, Honestly, I don't know about permissions re: that image. I took it from a Google image search and mashed it.<br><br>Not sure what you could come up with quickly to match it, but would love it if you could do some sky with a few flying books, and the same message. (free the textbook", w/our logo). Or, use your imagination! ;-) I like all the other images I've seen, and would love to have something that's within the context of "freeing" the textbook. Flying books seemed right.<br> <br>I'm attaching the Flat World Knowledge logo.<br><br>I'll let you be the guide on this. If there is no time, I would defer from putting the image up there, because I'm not sure, and don't have time to chase permissions, if they're necessary.<br> <br>Long live open images!<br><br>btw, I just got permission to publish the long version on our blog, and will get pointers to you as soon as I have a URL.<br><br>-Sanford<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Libby Levi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:llevi@redhat.com">llevi@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;">Hi Sanford!<div><br></div><div>I work with the illustrations for the Education channel. I like your image!</div> <div><br></div><div>Couple questions:</div><div><br></div><div>1. Do you mind if we crop it to fit the standard image size on the site?</div><div><br></div><div>and,</div><div><br></div><div>2. can it be released with the standard creative commons license (attribution, share alike) that we use?</div> <div><br></div><div>Let me know, and I'll take care of getting it ready and uploaded for you.</div><div><br></div><div>cheers!</div><div><br><div> <span style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><div> <div>.. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. .</div><div><br></div><div>Libby Levi</div><div><br></div><div>Red Hat</div><div>Brand Communications + Design</div><div><a href="mailto:llevi@redhat.com" target="_blank">llevi@redhat.com</a></div> </div></span><br></span><br> </div><br><div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div>On Feb 18, 2010, at 3:59 AM, Sanford Forte wrote:</div><br>see attached<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br> From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Sanford Forte</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sforte@flatworldknowledge.com" target="_blank">sforte@flatworldknowledge.com</a>></span><br> Date: Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:58 AM<br> Subject: Re: [Osdc-edu-authors] FLAT WORLD KNOWLEDGE: OPEN COLLEGE TEXTBOOKS - Disrupting Traditional Textbook Publishing’s Heavy Toll on America’s Future<br>To: Mel Chua <<a href="mailto:mel@redhat.com" target="_blank">mel@redhat.com</a>>, Greg DeKoenigsberg <<a href="mailto:gdk@redhat.com" target="_blank">gdk@redhat.com</a>><br> Cc: <a href="mailto:osdc-edu-authors@redhat.com" target="_blank">osdc-edu-authors@redhat.com</a><br><br><br>All good comments, and appropriate, given the venue. Also, savvy "Church and State" observation: thanks.<br> <br>How's this (attached)? It's cut from 4300 to 2300 words. Does this work? You have the graphic. Should I upload through the "create article" link?<br> <br>Thanks guys; keep up the good work!<br><br>Let me know your thoughts. btw, I've just submitted to our guys and asked them to post the long version - it may be too long for them. Maybe I'll start a blog, and you can point there :-)<br> I'll find somewhere to put it, and let you know asap. Let me know when/if it will run, and would prefer, if possible, that the graphic run with it. Let me know.<br><font color="#888888"><br>-Sanford</font><div><div></div> <div><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Mel Chua <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mel@redhat.com" target="_blank">mel@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> Thanks, Sanford! (Everyone else: I asked Sanford to send this draft to the list so we could comment on it.)<br> <br> My thoughts (not gospel in any way, just thinking out loud):<br> <br> 1) Awesome.<br> 2) Long - and this makes me worry that folks may not read it all the way through due to the length. What could we do about this, if that's something we want to fix?<br> <br> We could...<br> <br> * write it in installments<br> * have Sanford publish the original "extended version" somewhere else (Flat World Knowledge's website, maybe), cook up a shortened version for OSDC, then link to the first from the second<br> <br> Either way, it needs to be boiled down to either figure out how and where to split it, or how to shorten it. Here are the main points I see the article as making.<br> <br> 1. Graduating from college is a goal that statistically tends to be good for both the individuals who graduate and society at large. (Link to citations elsewhere.)<br> <br> 2. Textbook prices are actively blocking a substantial number of people from attending - and thus graduating from - college. (Link to citations elsewhere, including student bloggers testifying directly to this.)<br> <br> 3. Data indicates that under our current college education/textbook model, this situation is actually growing worse over time. (Link to citations elsewhere.)<br> <br> 4. Students are aware of this problem and have spoken and acted out against this for years; since they are powerless to change the main system, they find workarounds like purchasing international textbooks on the black market. (Link to citations elsewhere.)<br> <br> 5. Flat World Knowledge offers a working view of an alternative textbook system. Here's how it works. (Link heavily to content already on the Flat World Knowledge site explaining the business model, quality, pricing, etc.)<br> <br> 6. Call for participation, and/or open questions. (Not in original draft - this is a section I would add.)<br> <br> My $0.02 - what do others think?<br> <br> --Mel<br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Osdc-edu-authors mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Osdc-edu-authors@redhat.com" target="_blank">Osdc-edu-authors@redhat.com</a><br> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/osdc-edu-authors" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/osdc-edu-authors</a><br> </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br></div></div><div><div></div><div>-- <br>Sanford Forte<br>Director, Business Development<br>Flat World Knowledge<br>13 North Mill Street<br>Nyack, NY 10960<br><br>Office: (877) 257-9243 x201<br> Mobile: (650) 888-0077<br> <a href="mailto:sforte@flatworldknowledge.com" target="_blank">sforte@flatworldknowledge.com</a><br><a href="http://www.flatworldknowledge.com" target="_blank">http://www.flatworldknowledge.com</a><br> </div></div></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Sanford Forte<br>Director, Business Development<br>Flat World Knowledge<br>13 North Mill Street<br>Nyack, NY 10960<br><br>Office: (877) 257-9243 x201<br>Mobile: (650) 888-0077<br> <a href="mailto:sforte@flatworldknowledge.com" target="_blank">sforte@flatworldknowledge.com</a><br><a href="http://www.flatworldknowledge.com" target="_blank">http://www.flatworldknowledge.com</a><br></div></div><span><<a href="http://opensource.com" target="_blank">opensource.com</a> essay - short.doc></span><span><Free the textbook 2.0.jpg></span><div class="im"> <div style="margin: 0px;">_______________________________________________</div><div style="margin: 0px;">Osdc-edu-authors mailing list</div><div style="margin: 0px;"><a href="mailto:Osdc-edu-authors@redhat.com" target="_blank">Osdc-edu-authors@redhat.com</a></div> <div style="margin: 0px;"><a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/osdc-edu-authors" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/osdc-edu-authors</a></div> </div></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div> <br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Sanford Forte<br>Director, Business Development<br>Flat World Knowledge<br>13 North Mill Street<br>Nyack, NY 10960<br><br>Office: (877) 257-9243 x201<br>Mobile: (650) 888-0077<br><a href="mailto:sforte@flatworldknowledge.com">sforte@flatworldknowledge.com</a><br> <a href="http://www.flatworldknowledge.com">http://www.flatworldknowledge.com</a><br><span><FWK-logo.png></span></div><br></div></div></body></html>