<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks Ju. I’ve also added this to the queue. As a reminder to everyone, we do have an etherpad where you can add any requests. See: <a href="http://etherpad.corp.redhat.com/terminologyandwording" class="">http://etherpad.corp.redhat.com/terminologyandwording</a><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards </div><div class="">Leslie<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 23, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Ju Lim <<a href="mailto:julim@redhat.com" class="">julim@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class="">Another abbreviation that would be appreciated would be for Queue Length/Depth. This is often on anything to do with performance.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Is it qlen or qdepth?<br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In days of yonder past (Unix and early Linux), queue length (qlen) was more common. Queue depth seems to be more common these days. Used in CFME and it gets mentioned in pretty much any performance context where queueing occurs. I'd lean to qdepth but would be nice if its specified.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class="">Ju</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">On Jan 23, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Ju Lim <<a href="mailto:julim@redhat.com" class="">julim@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite" class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class="">Yes IO == I/O == Input / Output<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">Ju</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Leslie Hinson <<a href="mailto:lhinson@redhat.com" class="">lhinson@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite" class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hey Ju, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks so much for reviewing this. Your technical input is valuable. See inline comments below. </div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 22, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Ju Lim <<a href="mailto:julim@redhat.com" class="">julim@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class="">Hi Leslie:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I've some concerns that the abbreviation list is showing some inconsistencies. Specifically, I think <div class="">b/s should be bps</div><div class="">B/s should be Bps</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Otherwise, you need to change IOps to IO/s, KBps to KB/s, MBps to MB/s, TBps to TB/s, etc.</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">For IOps, IMHO, I think it should be IOPS (which standards for I/Os per second -- I/Os is plural). That's the industry-standard way it's written (though admittedly, it could be confused with Internet Official Protocol Standards… a standard in the IETF world). In the storage and networking industry, that's the standard way it's written plus it's also written that way in several dictionaries online, SNIA (one of the storage authorities), etc.</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I agree this needs to be consistent. We will definitely take a look at this again. </div></div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Note: the abbreviation list (MBps, Mbps, etc.) currently also conflicts with the statement above the abbreviation list table:</div><div class=""><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; line-height: 17px; white-space: pre-wrap; " class="">* Use the slash (/) with measurements to indicate the word per. For example: 100 MB/s (100 megabytes per second)</span></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The non-abbreviation for nanosecond (has no space) -- feel free to verify with the various dictionaries online. Just like millisecond is 1 word and not milli second.</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>Got it. <br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Do we have any abbreviations to recommend for the following, e.g.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I/O or IO == I/O </div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Shouldn’t this be “IO == Input/Output”?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">yr == year</div><div class="">mth == month</div><div class="">qtr == quarter</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote>We can add these. Allie is working on a design effort for Portal Scorecard that might benefit from these particular abbreviations. That said, we will need to investigate a little more to ensure we are using the appropriate abbreviations for these. For example, “mo” is an another abbreviation for month. As an extension to this, I think we could also add the appropriate abbreviations for months (e.g. Feb) and days (e.g. Wed). Anyway, I’ll add this to our queue. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We’ll send an update when we have one. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks again, Leslie </div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class="">Ju</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">On Jan 21, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Andres Galante <<a href="mailto:agalante@redhat.com" class="">agalante@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi Leslie,<br class=""><br class="">I think this is fantastic, I find the Capitalization very helpful plus those rules can be applied to any language. <br class=""><br class="">On Android design guidelines, there is a section about writing. It has a nice "Dos and Donts" table:<br class=""><a href="http://developer.android.com/design/style/writing.html" class="">http://developer.android.com/design/style/writing.html</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">----- Original Message -----<br class="">From: "Leslie Hinson" <<a href="mailto:lhinson@redhat.com" class="">lhinson@redhat.com</a>><br class="">To: <a href="mailto:patternfly@redhat.com" class="">patternfly@redhat.com</a><br class="">Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:05:30 AM<br class="">Subject: [Patternfly] Terminology and Wording Review Request<br class=""><br class="">Hey everyone, <br class=""><br class="">Recently we kicked off an effort to define and establish some best practices for terminology and wording as a tool to promote consistency. The goal is to publish these guidelines to PatternFly so that it is readily available for designers, developers and others to use as needed. <br class=""><br class="">Below you will find standards that we have established for terminology and wording as well as general rules regarding capitalization, punctuation, abbreviations and acronyms. As part of our review process, we would like to gather feedback from you to ensure there are no major issues or concerns with the definitions below. Please provide your input by end of day on Tuesday, Jan 27. <br class=""><br class="">Look forward to hearing from you, <br class="">Leslie <br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Terminology and Wording <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> * <br class="">Login (n): Please note that Portal does use Login (i.e. username or user ID) and will continue to do so <br class=""><br class=""> * <br class="">Log In (v): Log In should be used on the button for the Login page. <br class=""><br class=""> * <br class="">Username (n): Usually a unique ID you type in with your password (e.g. ssmith123). Should be used on the product login screens. <br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Capitalization <br class="">Headline style <br class="">For headline style, capitalize the first letter of every word except for articles (a, an, the), coordinating conjunctions (and, but, or), and prepositions of three letters or fewer (of, on, by, in). There’s one exception: Any word that is the first word in the headline or the last word should be capitalized, regardless of its part of speech. <br class=""><br class="">For example, “Where to Install” <br class="">Sentence style <br class="">For sentence style, capitalize the first letter of the first word and any proper nouns. Use sentence style for blocks of text and as described in “Capitalization for Common Components.” <br class=""><br class="">For example, “Only show subscriptions that match this Subscription Asset Manager Organization.” <br class=""><br class="">Capitalization for Common Components <br class=""><br class="">Button labels <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Headline <br class=""><br class="">Checkbox labels <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Sentence <br class=""><br class="">Column heading labels <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Headline <br class=""><br class="">Error messages <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Sentence <br class=""><br class="">Group headings, group boxes <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Headline <br class=""><br class="">List boxes <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class=""><br class=""> * <br class="">Sentence for introductory text <br class=""><br class=""> * <br class="">Headline for list box labels <br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Prompts <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Sentence <br class=""><br class="">Radio buttons labels <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Sentence <br class=""><br class="">States (as shown in tables, filters, e. g. Up and Running) <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Headline <br class=""><br class="">Status messages <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Sentence <br class=""><br class="">Tab labels <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Headline <br class=""><br class="">Text box labels <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Headline <br class=""><br class="">Tool tips <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Sentence <br class=""><br class="">Window titles (browsers, dialog boxes, steps in a wizard) <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Headline <br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Punctuation for RCUE <br class=""><br class="">Ampersands <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Avoid using ampersands. Use “and” instead. <br class=""><br class="">Colon <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Use sentence style capitalization for introductory text that appears above a control. A colon follows the introductory text. <br class=""><br class="">Comma <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Use serial commas. A serial comma is the comma before the “and” in a series of three or more items: “Item 1, item 2, and item 3.” <br class="">Taken from <a href="https://mojo.redhat.com/docs/DOC-28115#commas" class="">https://mojo.redhat.com/docs/DOC-28115#commas</a> <br class=""><br class="">Currency <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">For currencies that use the symbol $ alone, modify with the first two letters of the ISO code. Eg: US$1,500 (United States), AU$1,500 (Australia), HK$1,500 (Hong Kong), CA$1,500 (Canada). For other currencies, use the national currency symbol whenever possible (£1,500 = British pound; €1,500 = Euro, ¥1,500 = Japanese Yen, etc.). Generally, we do not provide currency conversions. <br class="">Taken from <a href="https://mojo.redhat.com/docs/DOC-28115#currency" class="">https://mojo.redhat.com/docs/DOC-28115#currency</a> <br class=""><br class="">Ellipses <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Use an ellipsis (...) to indicate that text is truncated. <br class=""><br class="">Exclamation point <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Avoid using exclamation points, except when referring to a command, such as the bang ( ! ) command. <br class=""><br class="">Hyphenation <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Hyphenate when needed for clarity. Words that begin with prefixes are usually not hyphenated. Prefixes can include "multi," "non," "sub," "co," "semi," "pre," "re," etc. <br class=""><br class="">Exceptions: When not hyphenating makes it unclear. For example: He recovered his health. He re-covered the leaky roof. (AP) <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">You will usually hyphenate: <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> * <br class=""><br class="">Complex adjectives (compound modifiers). This is when two adjectives work together to modify an object. The hyphen is used when the first adjective modifies the second adjective. Examples: cloud-based solutions, right-side paralysis, system-wide menu. Exception: We never hyphenate "open source," even when used as a complex adjective. <br class=""> * <br class="">When the prefix ends in a vowel and the word that follows begins with the same vowel. Examples: semi-independent, pre-emptive. Exceptions : cooperate, coordinate <br class=""><br class=""> * <br class="">Capitalized words with a prefix. Examples: un-American, non-British <br class=""><br class=""> * <br class=""><br class="">Double prefixes. Examples: sub-subparagraph, re-sublet <br class=""><br class="">Do not hyphenate words with the prefix “non” unless the dictionary says otherwise: nonaddictive, nonabrasive, nonalcoholic. <br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Taken from <a href="https://mojo.redhat.com/docs/DOC-28115#hyphenation" class="">https://mojo.redhat.com/docs/DOC-28115#hyphenation</a> and <a href="https://mojo.redhat.com/docs/DOC-28115#non" class="">https://mojo.redhat.com/docs/DOC-28115#non</a> <br class="">Percent <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">In text, use the word percent. For example: 10 percent to 20 percent <br class="">In tables, use the percent symbol. For example: 10% to 20% <br class=""><br class="">Question mark <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Place a question mark at the end of a question. For example: <br class="">Are you sure you want to delete this file? <br class=""><br class=""><br class="">General Rules about Abbreviations <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> * <br class="">Use abbreviations that users are familiar with and write out uncommon abbreviations. <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> * <br class=""><br class="">Do not write out units of measure. [See "Abbreviations for Units of Measurement"] <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> * <br class=""><br class="">Use abbreviations consistently. <br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Common Abbreviations for RCUE <br class="">General Abbreviations <br class=""><br class="">e.g. and i.e. <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Use sparingly. e.g. means “for example.” i.e. means “in other words.” Add commas after each (e.g.,). <br class="">Adapted from <a href="https://mojo.redhat.com/docs/DOC-28115#e" class="">https://mojo.redhat.com/docs/DOC-28115#e</a> <br class=""><br class="">KVM <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">kernel-based virtual machine <br class=""><br class="">sysadmin <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Avoid using abbreviations like "sysadmin" and "SysAdmin;" these are too informal. "System" should be singular (i.e., not "systems administrator"), because it can include both a single system and multiple systems, similar to "database administrator" or "brain surgeon," who work on more than one database and brain, respectively. <br class="">Taken from <a href="https://mojo.redhat.com/docs/DOC-28115#systemadministrator" class="">https://mojo.redhat.com/docs/DOC-28115#systemadministrator</a> <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> 1. <br class="">S. <br class=""><br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">As a noun, use "United States" unless there are space constraints. As an adjective use "U.S." (e.g., U.S. soldier). As part of an organization, use "U.S." <br class="">Taken from <a href="https://mojo.redhat.com/docs/DOC-28115#us" class="">https://mojo.redhat.com/docs/DOC-28115#us</a> <br class=""><br class="">VM <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">virtual machine. OK to abbreviate as long as you've spelled it out once in first occurrence and as long as "VM" won't be confused with other terms that share that acronym. <br class="">Adapted from <a href="https://mojo.redhat.com/docs/DOC-28115#vm" class="">https://mojo.redhat.com/docs/DOC-28115#vm</a> <br class=""><br class="">Units of Measure Abbreviations <br class="">General Guidelines <br class="">Use the following guidelines for abbreviations of measure: <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> * <br class="">Include a space between a number and a unit of measure. For example: 55 MB <br class=""><br class=""> * <br class="">Use the numeral, not the word, with abbreviations of units of measurement. For example: 5 ft, not five ft <br class=""><br class=""> * <br class="">Use only the singular for the abbreviation. For example: 5 lb, not 5 lbs <br class=""><br class=""> * <br class="">Use the slash (/) with measurements to indicate the word per. For example: 100 MB/s (100 megabytes per second) <br class=""><br class=""> * <br class="">Use a hyphen with a numeral and a spelled-out unit of measurement when used as a compound modifier. Do not hyphenate number and unit of measurement compound modifiers when the measurement unit is abbreviated. For example: 1-foot clearance; 1 ft clearance <br class=""><br class=""> * <br class="">In specifications that include both U.S. and metric values, show the U.S. value first (followed by the metric value in parentheses). For example: Rackmount depth: 29 in. (73.7 cm) <br class=""><br class=""> * <br class="">For temperature, include the degree symbol with each number. For example: 10° C to 25° C <br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Abbreviation List <br class=""><br class="">b <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">bit <br class=""><br class="">b/s <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">bits per second <br class=""><br class="">B <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">byte <br class=""><br class="">B/s <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">bytes per second <br class=""><br class="">C <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">celsius <br class=""><br class="">F <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">fahrenheit <br class=""><br class="">Gb <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">gigabit <br class=""><br class="">GbE <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">gigabit Ethernet <br class=""><br class="">GB <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">gigabyte <br class=""><br class="">hr <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">hour <br class=""><br class="">IOps <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">I/O per second <br class=""><br class="">KB <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">kilobytes <br class=""><br class="">KBps <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">kilobytes per second <br class=""><br class="">Mb <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">megabit <br class=""><br class="">Mbps <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">megabits per second <br class=""><br class="">MB <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">megabytes <br class=""><br class="">MBps <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">megabytes per second <br class=""><br class="">ms <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">millisecond <br class=""><br class="">ns <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">nano second <br class=""><br class="">PB <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">petabyte <br class=""><br class="">P/N <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">part number <br class=""><br class="">% <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">percent <br class=""><br class="">s <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">second <br class=""><br class="">states <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Use the two-letter postal abbreviations. Refer to <a href="http://stateabbreviations.us/" class="">stateabbreviations.us</a> . <br class=""><br class="">TB <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">terabyte <br class=""><br class="">TBps <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">terabytes per second <br class=""><br class="">Abbreviations for Time and Time Zones <br class="">When referring to time zones, use this chart: <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/" class="">http://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/</a> <br class=""><br class="">AM <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">ante meridiem (before noon) <br class=""><br class="">PM <br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">post meridiem (after noon) <br class=""><br class=""><br class="">General Rules about Acronyms <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> * <br class="">Use acronyms that users are familiar with and write out uncommon acronyms <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> * <br class=""><br class="">Write out all Red Hat product names when possible. 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