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    <p>I agree with this needing to be less verbose. When multiple
      filters are applied, the bar will become crowded. Perhaps an icon
      instead of "select all 90 items in this table" would work better?</p>
    Dan<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/19/16 10:45 AM, Liz Clayton
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAAf=RDkcpSGuS9m7Z59xZ6vVXgzQH4NPRQ6+yWpwLd2J03Qrvw@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi,<br>
        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 10:07 AM, SJ
            Cox <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:sjcox@redhat.com" target="_blank">sjcox@redhat.com</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Thank you for all the feedback!  
                <div><br>
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                <div>And I agree with option 2 as well.  Catherine, to
                  answer your questions, that bar is always there. That
                  bar is shared to show filters and selection and just
                  updates as filters are added and selection changes.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>This is also the reason that selection is on the
                  right as opposed to the left.  When filters are added,
                  they appear under the filter field, which is on the
                  left. That is another con with this design is that it
                  could potentially run out of room in that bar when a
                  certain amount of filters are added.  In that case
                  should we add another row for filters of just truncate
                  the filters with a ... and then have a way to show all
                  (Which would still add another row, or perhaps a drop
                  down?).</div>
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            <div>
              <div>Just wondering about the table selection labels
                themselves. Do we have a standpoint on the language
                used? They seem more narrative ("Select all 90 items in
                this table."), versus something less verbose like: </div>
              <div>
                <p class="gmail-m_-5890018340245862179gmail-p1">Selection:
                  18 (of 90) | <font color="#3d85c6">Select All</font></p>
                <p class="gmail-m_-5890018340245862179gmail-p1">Selection:
                  All (90 of 90) | <font color="#3d85c6">Clear </font><font
                    color="#3d85c6"><br>
                  </font><font color="#000000"><br>
                    or something like that... Something more concise
                    might be useful when the applied filters are in
                    view. </font></p>
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            <div>Liz C.</div>
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                <div>Also Matt, item selection should be consistent
                  across all data views so thanks for bringing that to
                  our attention!</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Thank you!</div>
                <div>SJ</div>
              </div>
              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 6:37
                  AM, Matt Carrano <span dir="ltr"><<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:mcarrano@redhat.com" target="_blank">mcarrano@redhat.com</a>></span>
                  wrote:<br>
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                        <div>I also like option 2 as I don't see a need
                          to insert a new row.  But I have a similar
                          question to Catherine's.  My expectation is
                          that this Select All action is always there
                          (no need to prompt).  I also think you could
                          shorten this to drop the "in this table" from
                          the end.  So the row would be something like: 
                          18 of 90 Items Selected | <u>Select All 90
                            Items  </u>I've done something similar to
                          this in my Storage designs.<br>
                          <u><br>
                          </u></div>
                        I'm also wondering why this text is on the right
                        rather than the left (I've been putting it on
                        the left).  Looking at the PF library, I notice
                        this is on the left for list view but on the
                        right for table view.  Is that inconsistency
                        intentional?<br>
                        <br>
                      </div>
                      Matt<br>
                    </div>
                    <div class="gmail_extra">
                      <div>
                        <div class="gmail-m_8810010101473651260h5"><br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 19, 2016
                            at 9:25 AM, Catherine Robson <span
                              dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:crobson@redhat.com"
                                target="_blank">crobson@redhat.com</a>></span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                              <div dir="ltr">Option 2 makes more sense
                                around having consolidated content about
                                your selections, but when does that bar
                                show up?  Is that bar always there and
                                has 0 out of 90 items selected by
                                default, and then just updates as
                                selections change?  </div>
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                                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct
                                      18, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Allie Jacobs
                                      <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:ajacobs@redhat.com"
                                          target="_blank">ajacobs@redhat.com</a>></span>
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                        <div dir="ltr">Hey SJ,
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Great job thinking
                                            through the pros and cons.
                                            Option 1 seems familiar
                                            (gmail) but I think option 2
                                            is more elegant. It may not
                                            be as obvious / familiar but
                                            the select all link is
                                            readily available in an area
                                            that makes sense. </div>
                                          <div><br>
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                                          <div>Allie</div>
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                                              <div
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                                                Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at
                                                2:36 PM, SJ Cox <span
                                                  dir="ltr"><<a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sjcox@redhat.com" target="_blank">sjcox@redhat.com</a>></span>
                                                wrote:<br>
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                                                  <div dir="ltr">Hello
                                                    fellow
                                                    PatternFlyers!
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>This sprint I'm
                                                      working on the
                                                      conceptual design
                                                      for pagination
                                                      across data tables
                                                      (includes card and
                                                      list view)</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>I wanted to
                                                      share my thoughts
                                                      and progress and
                                                      see if anyone had
                                                      any concerns or
                                                      feedback based on
                                                      what is being done
                                                      with tables in
                                                      products to date. 
                                                      What works, what
                                                      doesn't?</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>With the
                                                      addition of
                                                      pagination, all
                                                      elements/controls
                                                      related to
                                                      pagination would
                                                      be found on the
                                                      bottom of the
                                                      table.  This
                                                      includes:</div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <ul>
                                                          <li>See the
                                                          number of
                                                          items on a
                                                          page and total
                                                          number of
                                                          pages<br>
                                                          </li>
                                                          <li>See how
                                                          many pages of
                                                          data there is.<br>
                                                          </li>
                                                          <li>View which
                                                          page you are
                                                          on (current
                                                          location)<br>
                                                          </li>
                                                          <li>Modify how
                                                          many pages are
                                                          being
                                                          displayed.<br>
                                                          </li>
                                                          <li>Skip to
                                                          the next or
                                                          previous page.<br>
                                                          </li>
                                                          <li>Skip
                                                          multiple
                                                          pages.<br>
                                                          </li>
                                                          <li>Navigate
                                                          to the
                                                          first/last
                                                          page.</li>
                                                        </ul>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>With this story
                                                      we wanted to add
                                                      the ability to
                                                      select all items
                                                      across multiple
                                                      pages. Initially,
                                                      if you select all
                                                      on a page, it will
                                                      select all items
                                                      only on that page.
                                                      Then it would
                                                      prompt the user to
                                                      select all items
                                                      across the table.
                                                      I came up with two
                                                      options for the
                                                      "select all"
                                                      option.</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><b>OPTION 1</b></div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><img
                                                        src="cid:part6.371317C3.AA25F37E@redhat.com"
                                                        alt="Inline
                                                        image 2"
                                                        height="399"
                                                        width="523"> <img
src="cid:part7.7B9B30B8.96184F3A@redhat.com" alt="Inline image 3"
                                                        height="415"
                                                        width="523"><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>The first
                                                      option above shows
                                                      a new row
                                                      appearing within
                                                      the table under
                                                      the row headers,
                                                      in the form of a
                                                      message. This
                                                      message informs
                                                      you of how many
                                                      items are selected
                                                      and gives you the
                                                      ability to select
                                                      all.  Once all are
                                                      selected, you have
                                                      the ability to
                                                      clear selection
                                                      from the within
                                                      the same message. </div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>Also, what
                                                      would happen as
                                                      you page through
                                                      the table? I've
                                                      seen it behave
                                                      differently.  In
                                                      google, as you
                                                      page through, the
                                                      selection is
                                                      cleared. In this
                                                      design I didn't
                                                      think that would
                                                      be a great
                                                      experience. </div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><u>Option 1
                                                        Pros</u>:  the
                                                      addition of the
                                                      message row is
                                                      obvious and will
                                                      draw the users
                                                      attention.</div>
                                                    <div><u>Option 1
                                                        Cons:</u> Table
                                                      height would have
                                                      to adjust to
                                                      accommodate new
                                                      message row. 
                                                      Also, does the
                                                      placement of the
                                                      message make sense
                                                      under the row
                                                      headers? 
                                                      Furthermore, it's
                                                      redundant to show
                                                      the number of
                                                      items shown twice
                                                      (upper right, and
                                                      in message)</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><b>OPTION 2</b></div>
                                                    <div><b><br>
                                                      </b></div>
                                                    <div>Option two
                                                      addresses the cons
                                                      of option 1.  
                                                      When selecting all
                                                      items within a
                                                      page, you get
                                                      prompted to select
                                                      all items within
                                                      the table next to
                                                      where it shows you
                                                      total number of
                                                      items selected.
                                                      Same with clearing
                                                      selection.</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><img
                                                        src="cid:part8.68BF704D.635B5E62@redhat.com"
                                                        alt="Inline
                                                        image 5"
                                                        height="400"
                                                        width="523"><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><img
                                                        src="cid:part9.1F95264A.D51F3AE4@redhat.com"
                                                        alt="Inline
                                                        image 6"
                                                        height="399"
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                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><u>Option 2
                                                        Pros</u>: No
                                                      need for creating
                                                      a new message row
                                                      and shifting the
                                                      table down.  No
                                                      redundant info.</div>
                                                    <div><u>Option 3
                                                        Cons</u>:  Might
                                                      not be obvious
                                                      that you can
                                                      select all items.
                                                      Does is seem
                                                      hidden?</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>Let me know
                                                      your thoughts,
                                                      thank you!</div>
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                                          target="_blank">Patternfly@redhat.com</a><br>
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/patternfly"
                                          rel="noreferrer"
                                          target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman<wbr>/listinfo/patternfly</a><br>
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                              ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
                              Patternfly mailing list<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:Patternfly@redhat.com"
                                target="_blank">Patternfly@redhat.com</a><br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/patternfly"
                                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman<wbr>/listinfo/patternfly</a><br>
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                                      <div>Matt Carrano<br>
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                                      Sr. Interaction Designer<br>
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                                    Red Hat, Inc.<br>
                                  </div>
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:mcarrano@redhat.com"
                                    target="_blank">mcarrano@redhat.com</a><br>
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                                <div align="left"><font color="#cc0000"><font
                                      face="Arial" size="2"><span
                                        style="font-size:10pt"><b>Sarah
                                          Jane Cox</b></span></font> </font><font
                                    face="Calibri" color="#010101"><span
                                      style="font-size:11pt"><br>
                                    </span></font> <font
                                    color="#999999"><font face="Arial"
                                      size="1"><span
                                        style="font-size:9pt">User
                                        Interaction Designer</span></font> <font
                                      face="Calibri"><span
                                        style="font-size:11pt"><br>
                                      </span></font> </font><font
                                    face="Arial" size="1"><span
                                      style="font-size:9pt"><font
                                        color="#999999">User Experience
                                        Design Team<br>
                                      </font><br>
                                    </span></font><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.redhat.com/about/whoisredhat/redhatstories.html?intcmp=70160000000TB9vAAG&"
                                    target="_blank"><font face="arial,
                                      helvetica, sans-serif"
                                      color="#3d85c6" size="2">Red Hat,
                                      Inc.</font></a><font face="Arial"
                                    color="#404040" size="1"><span
                                      style="font-size:9pt"><br>
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              ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:Patternfly@redhat.com">Patternfly@redhat.com</a><br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/patternfly"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/patternfly</a><br>
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Patternfly mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Patternfly@redhat.com">Patternfly@redhat.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/patternfly">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/patternfly</a>
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