<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hey Leslie,<div class="">That is a great point – I found two examples of responsive forms that could be a workaround:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1. The syntax text stays visible when a user clicks, but only disappears as they start typing. See <a href="https://order.emporiumpies.com/" class="">here</a>. (In step 1 of the form, pick Delivery to see a few examples.) </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">2. The syntax text gives the user an idea of the format needed and appears for about 1 second after clicking in the field. See <a href="https://stuffandnonsense.co.uk/contact" class="">here</a>. (look for “Existing website address”)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thoughts from everyone? Would this be challenging to implement? Depending on the length of the form, I could see option 1 becoming visually distracting.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class="">Jessica</div><div class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 17, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Leslie Hinson <<a href="mailto:lhinson@redhat.com" class="">lhinson@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Thanks for sending this out Jessica. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">One of the things that will be tricky if figuring out a solution for how this text behaves in the responsive states. That would be the advantage of putting syntax help inside the text box. However, I know that it's a usability issue when the syntax help disappears when the user clicks.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Leslie</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Jessica Ryhanych <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:jryhanyc@redhat.com" target="_blank" class="">jryhanyc@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Hi PatternFly,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m gathering information during this sprint on syntax hints used in forms and need your feedback. What have you observed? What worked well? What did you find distracting? What use cases need to be addressed? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’ve been reviewing an <a href="http://static.lukew.com/webforms_lukew.pdf" target="_blank" class="">excerpt</a> from Luke Wroblewski’s book, Web Form Design, and found a few examples that might be food for thought.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">Examples:</b></div><div class=""><b class=""><br class=""></b></div><div class="">- syntax hint is below input field, left aligned, font color & weight is differentiated from label text</div><div class=""><span id="cid:F89CBA9B-8C2D-49A3-8FFF-FBB6CDB89A48@rdu.redhat.com"><Screen Shot 2016-11-15 at 1.51.13 PM.png></span><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- syntax hint is left aligned to input field, font color & weight is differentiated from label text</div><div class=""><span id="cid:18FEC3B8-3B18-47F3-AE8E-ECBFADA2479F@rdu.redhat.com"><Screen Shot 2016-11-15 at 1.25.31 PM.png></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- syntax hint follows label text, font color is differentiated from label, placement above input field</div><div class=""><span id="cid:D77A7C7D-CEC5-4838-8507-62ACEB5CF4FB@rdu.redhat.com"><Screen Shot 2016-11-15 at 1.25.39 PM.png></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please share any examples from your daily work and/or other considerations I might have missed. Thanks!</div><div class="">Jessica</div><div class="">
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