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On 10/04/2013 11:48 AM, Oleg Antonenko wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Dmitri, Nathan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank
you for speedy responses.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Could
you please confirm my understanding?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">RHCS is going to be shipped as a part of RHEL7.x
in the foreseeable future;
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It is not "a part" it is a stand alone product and not free.<br>
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73, 125);">IPA is a free part of RHEL 6.x and will remain as
such in the foreseeable future;</span></p>
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<br>
Correct and same is true for RHEL7.x<br>
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73, 125);">RHEL 6.x does not ship RHCS, but includes only
pki-ca packages in order to support IPA.</span></p>
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Correct<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Could
you also clarify your point here ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>The CA portion in RHEL is not supported
by Red Hat for standalone use
</i><b><i><span style="color:red">without an entitlement for
the rest of RHCS</span></i></b><i>, which isn't
available on RHEL 6</i><i><span
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<br>
RHCS is a layered product and can be acquired separately.<br>
We do not ship a version of RHCS on top of RHEL6. It is a big
product and takes a lot of time to deliver.<br>
We decided to skip a major RHEL version.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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73, 125);">Does it mean RHCS is not free?</span></p>
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Correct.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regarding
this -<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i>We would be actually very interested if
we can support this use case with core IPA.<br>
Would you be interested in a conversation about this?<br>
<br>
</i><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Yes, we’d love to.</span></p>
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<br>
Ok let us have one.<br>
I am sorry, I have not been following the whole thread, just this
mail caught my eye so what kind of functionality we are looking for?<br>
Can you formulate a "wish list" for your use case assuming the CA is
a part of IPA?<br>
<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Many
thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Oleg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pki-users-bounces@redhat.com">pki-users-bounces@redhat.com</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:pki-users-bounces@redhat.com">mailto:pki-users-bounces@redhat.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dmitri
Pal<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 October 2013 16:21<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pki-users@redhat.com">pki-users@redhat.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pki-users] will the new version of
RHCS support RHEL6?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 10/04/2013 11:08 AM, Oleg Antonenko
wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi
Nathan,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Could
you please shed some light on the future plans for the
pki-ca portion of RHEL?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Will
it be included in the standard RHEL distribution in the
future?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
Dogtag 10+ will become a RHSC product on top of RHEL7.x <br>
<br>
Some of its portions will be gradually included into IPA that
comes for free with RHEL.<br>
IMO full blown IPA is not that "full blown" in this case.<br>
<br>
We would be actually very interested if we can support this
use case with core IPA.<br>
Would you be interested in a conversation about this?<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Dmitri<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m
asking because we’re planning to use the CA bit only for
issuing certificates to mobile devices via SCEP. We do not
require any other services or the full blown IPA…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">With
thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Oleg</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pki-users-bounces@redhat.com">pki-users-bounces@redhat.com</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pki-users-bounces@redhat.com">mailto:pki-users-bounces@redhat.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nathan Kinder<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 27 September 2013 20:03<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pki-users@redhat.com">pki-users@redhat.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pki-users] will the new version of
RHCS support RHEL6?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 09/26/2013 10:25 PM, <span lang="JA">安
泱</span> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,<br>
<br>
I'm a beginner of the dogtag certificate system, dogtag<span
lang="JA">（</span>RHCS<span lang="JA">）</span>is a
wonderful project, but I'm confused about RHCS, could you
give any help?<br>
<br>
The latest version of RHCS is 8.1, which is based on dogtag
8.1, it supports RHEL5.8, and in RHEL6, pki-ca 9.0.3 was
included without the other 5 subsystems, could you show me
the consideration why RHCS do not support RHEL6?
<br>
Is RHEL6 not secure enough or some other reasons<span
lang="JA">？</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal">It was simply not a targeted platform (nor
are there plans to release it there). The pki-ca portion is
included for use by IdM (based on the FreeIPA project).<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
-NGK<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
Regards.<br>
An Yang<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Pki-users mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Pki-users mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Pki-users@redhat.com">Pki-users@redhat.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/pki-users">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/pki-users</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Thank you,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Dmitri Pal<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Sr. Engineering Manager for IdM portfolio<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Red Hat Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
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Thank you,
Dmitri Pal
Sr. Engineering Manager for IdM portfolio
Red Hat Inc.
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Looking to carve out IT costs?
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