<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Basically yes, jfearn will have to find people to translate it himself if he will not accept translations from <a href="http://fedora.transifex.net">fedora.transifex.net</a>. I thought the original issue was just the .tx/config file, which we could work with, but if he doesn't want translations then well, I guess that's his choice.</div><div> </div><div>The same translators are going to be on the new site, Fedora still controls the translation teams, the translators still agree to the CLA like normal. </div><div> </div><div>Nick Sent from my iPhone</div><div> On Feb 22, 2011, at 16:16, Deon Lackey <<a href="mailto:dlackey@redhat.com">dlackey@redhat.com</a>> wrote: </div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000">I'm just curious: doesn't nixing <a href="http://transifex.net">transifex.net</a> content effectively shut down translations? Or does it simply make it more difficult on Nick and Rudi but not change the ultimate process (meaning, the translations are still done on <a href="http://tx.net">tx.net</a>)? I'm not familiar with the Fedora translation process. What's the end result of this? Deon <hr id="zwchr"> From: "Jeff Fearn" <<a href="mailto:jfearn@redhat.com">jfearn@redhat.com</a>> To: "Publican discussions" <<a href="mailto:publican-list@redhat.com">publican-list@redhat.com</a>> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:57:16 PM Subject: Re: [publican-list] [Fwd: Re: r1722 - in trunk/publican-fedora: . .tx] Just to clue people in on what has actually happened. Fedora infrastructure has been running an instance of Transifex for some time. This installation has been plagued by terrible performance and an almost complete inability to maintain or upgrade it. AIUI almost all of these issues are related to the software itself. Travel forward to recent times when Fedora decided not to host an instance anymore, because it's unmaintainable, and so decided to migrate hosted applications without going to the rather obvious step of asking the associated projects if it was OK to migrate them to a commercial entities site. Now I for one am rather hesitant to move to a hosted commercial instance run by people who make software that a team of people can't update or maintain. I'm double hesitant when the whole migration process was done without public consultation with the projects themselves. At this point I'm willing to wield my Project Leaders Veto on accepting <a href="http://transifex.net">transifex.net</a> content. Giving commercial entities rights over our name and sources is a serious step, doing it without due consideration is rather foolish, and doing it on other peoples behalf is morally offensive and pretty much illegal. Cheers, Jeff. On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 06:13 -0600, Nick Bebout wrote: > Per jfearn's request, forwarding this to publican-list. > > Nick > ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- > Subject: Re: r1722 - in trunk/publican-fedora: . .tx > From: "Nick Bebout" <<a href="mailto:nick@bebout.net">nick@bebout.net</a>> > Date: Tue, February 22, 2011 6:07 am > To: "<a href="mailto:jfearn@redhat.com">jfearn@redhat.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:jfearn@redhat.com">jfearn@redhat.com</a>> > Cc: "<a href="mailto:nb@fedoraproject.org">nb@fedoraproject.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:nb@fedoraproject.org">nb@fedoraproject.org</a>> > "Ruediger Landmann" <<a href="mailto:rlandman@redhat.com">rlandman@redhat.com</a>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Fedora is now doing translations through <a href="http://transifex.net">transifex.net</a>, instead of running > our own transifex instance. The .tx/config are what maps "resources" in > the transifex site to the pot and po's in the source repository. For what > it's worth, .tx/config would be needed, even if Fedora upgraded our > current transifex to 1.0 or higher. The only difference would be the URL > at the top of the file. (the way I understand it is Fedora provides > translations for both publican and publican-fedora, but please correct me > if that is not true.) > > We can live without having the .tx/config file stored in svn, but it'll be > harder because rudi and I (or whoever) will have to make our own copy (or > send each other a copy) before updating the pot on <a href="http://tx.net">tx.net</a> or pulling the > updated po's to update in svn. > > I would request you allow the .tx/config files to be stored in svn again. > > Nick > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 21, 2011, at 23:41, Jeff Fearn <<a href="mailto:jfearn@redhat.com">jfearn@redhat.com</a>> wrote: > > > I am not happy with having content for commercial enterprises in the > > Publican repository. Doing so without discussing this on the Publican > > list is unacceptable, please start a discussion now. > > > > Cheers, Jeff. > > > > On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 04:12 +0000, <a href="mailto:nb@fedoraproject.org">nb@fedoraproject.org</a> wrote: > >> Author: nb > >> Date: 2011-02-22 04:12:36 +0000 (Tue, 22 Feb 2011) > >> New Revision: 1722 > >> > >> Added: > >> trunk/publican-fedora/.tx/ > >> trunk/publican-fedora/.tx/config > >> Log: > >> Add publican-fedora/.tx/config > >> > >> > >> Added: trunk/publican-fedora/.tx/config > >> =================================================================== > >> --- trunk/publican-fedora/.tx/config (rev 0) > >> +++ trunk/publican-fedora/.tx/config 2011-02-22 04:12:36 UTC (rev 1722) > >> @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ > >> +[main] > >> +host = <a href="https://www.transifex.net"><a href="https://www.transifex.net">https://www.transifex.net</a></a> > >> + > >> +[publican-fedora.Feedback] > >> +file_filter = <lang>/Feedback.po > >> +source_file = pot/Feedback.pot > >> +source_lang = en > >> + > >> +[publican-fedora.Logos] > >> +file_filter = <lang>/Logos.po > >> +source_file = pot/Logos.pot > >> +source_lang = en > >> + > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > publican-list mailing list > <a href="mailto:publican-list@redhat.com"><a href="mailto:publican-list@redhat.com">publican-list@redhat.com</a></a> > <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/publican-list"><a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/publican-list">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/publican-list</a></a> > Wiki: <a href="https://fedorahosted.org/publican"><a href="https://fedorahosted.org/publican">https://fedorahosted.org/publican</a></a> _______________________________________________ publican-list mailing list <a href="mailto:publican-list@redhat.com">publican-list@redhat.com</a> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/publican-list Wiki: https://fedorahosted.org/publican </div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div>_______________________________________________ publican-list mailing list <a href="mailto:publican-list@redhat.com">publican-list@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/publican-list">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/publican-list</a> Wiki: <a href="https://fedorahosted.org/publican"><a href="https://fedorahosted.org/publican">https://fedorahosted.org/publican</a></a></div></blockquote></body></html>