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                        04/06/2018 09:15 AM, Brian Bouterse wrote:<br>
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                                  <div>Several plugins have started
                                    using the Changesets including
                                    pulp_ansible, pulp_python,
                                    pulp_file, and perhaps others. The
                                    Changesets provide several distinct
                                    points of value which are great, but
                                    there are two challenges I want to
                                    bring up. I want to focus only on
                                    the problem statements first.<br>
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                                  1. There is redundant "differencing"
                                  code in all plugins. The Changeset
                                  interface requires the plugin writer
                                  to determine what units need to be
                                  added and those to be removed. This
                                  requires all plugin writers to write
                                  the same non-trivial differencing code
                                  over and over. For example, you can
                                  see the same non-trivial differencing
                                  code present in <a
href="https://github.com/pulp/pulp_ansible/blob/d0eb9d125f9a6cdc82e2807bcad38749967a1245/pulp_ansible/app/tasks/synchronizing.py#L217-L306"
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                                  Line-wise, this "differencing" code
                                  makes up a large portion (maybe 50%)
                                  of the sync code itself in each
                                  plugin.<br>
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                      Ten lines of trivial set logic hardly seems like a
                      big deal but any duplication is worth exploring. <br>
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            <div>It's more than ten lines. Take pulp_ansible for
              example. By my count (the linked to section) it's 89
              lines, which out of 306 lines of plugin code for sync is
              29% of extra redundant code. The other plugins have
              similar numbers. So with those numbers in mind, what do
              you think?<br>
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    I was counting the lines (w/o comments) in find_delta() based on the
    linked code.  Which functions are you counting?<br>
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                                2. Plugins can't do end-to-end stream
                                processing. The Changesets themselves do
                                stream processing, but when you call
                                into changeset.apply_and_drain() you
                                have to have fully parsed the metadata
                                already. Currently when fetching all
                                metadata from Galaxy, pulp_ansible takes
                                about 380 seconds (6+ min). This means
                                that the actual Changeset content
                                downloading starts 380 seconds later
                                than it could. At the heart of the
                                problem, the fetching+parsing of the
                                metadata is not part of the stream
                                processing.<br>
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                      The additions/removals can be any interable (like
                      generator) and by using ChangeSet.apply() and
                      iterating the returned object, the pluign can
                      "turn the crank" while downloading and processing
                      the metadata.  The ChangeSet.apply_and_drain() is
                      just a convenience method.  I don't see how this
                      is a limitation of the ChangeSet.<br>
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            <div>That is new info for me (and maybe everyone). OK so
              Changesets have two interfaces. apply() and
              apply_and_drain(). Why do we have two interfaces when
              apply() can support all existing use cases (that I know
              of) and do end-to-end stream processing but
              apply_and_drain() cannot? I see all of our examples (and
              all of our new plugins) using apply_and_drain().<br>
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    The ChangeSet.apply() was how I designed (and documented) it.  Not
    sure when/who added the apply_and_drain().  +1 for removing it.<br>
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                              Do you see the same challenges I do? Are
                              these the right problem statements? I
                              think with clear problem statements a
                              solution will be easy to see and agree on.<br>
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                      I'm not convinced that these are actual
                      problems/challenges that need to be addressed in
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                            Thanks!<br>
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