<div dir="ltr">I'll wait on removing the Pulp 3 tags until Friday to leave more time for discussion. <div><br></div><div>I noticed that there's also a "3.0.0" option for the Platform Release field. Should we set it for all issues that are at Modified+ with the Pulp 3 tag?<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-6800347846196434630gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>David<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 9:26 AM Brian Bouterse <<a href="mailto:bbouters@redhat.com" target="_blank">bbouters@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>The thinking is that keeping 'historical' tags mixed in with actual tags will make the 'Tag's field less usable and more confusing. The removal of these historical tags uses the csv export serving at the historical record, which was the best/easiest way we could come up with to store that long-term without making even more changes to Redmine. Ideas and suggestions are welcome.<br></div><div><br></div><div>As an aside, next time we'll disable email updates during these mass-changes. Thanks for the suggestion @pcreech.<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 6:25 AM Ina Panova <<a href="mailto:ipanova@redhat.com" target="_blank">ipanova@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Curiosity question - what we will benefit from removing tags Pulp 3, Pulp 3 MVP, and Pulp 3 RC Blocker?</div><div>Except of tons notifications received? I would keep them on the issues as they are, for historical reasons of pulp3 development.<br> </div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-6800347846196434630gmail-m_4047351964012815825gmail-m_-1455972368295342622gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><br>--------<br>Regards,<br><br>Ina Panova<br>Software Engineer| Pulp| Red Hat Inc.<br><br>"Do not go where the path may lead,<br> go instead where there is no path and leave a trail."<br></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:18 PM David Davis <<a href="mailto:daviddavis@redhat.com" target="_blank">daviddavis@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">The Pulp 2 tag has been created in redmine. Please start using it to tag issues that apply to Pulp 2. We’re also applying the new Pulp 2 tag to issues without the Pulp 3 tag in the following projects in redmine:<div><br></div><div><div>Debian</div><div>Crane</div><div>Docker</div><div>Nectar</div><div>OSTree</div><div>Packaging</div><div>Pulp</div><div>Puppet</div><div>Python</div><div>RPM</div><div><br></div><div>This includes about 1161 issues. Please let us know if there are any issues that shouldn’t be tagged or ones we have missed.</div></div><div><br></div><div>The final step which we hope to do on Wednesday will be to remove the tags: Pulp 3, Pulp 3 MVP, and Pulp 3 RC Blocker. We’ll make csv backups for each before we remove them.</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-6800347846196434630gmail-m_4047351964012815825gmail-m_-1455972368295342622gmail-m_-3291566699928069334m_649239053504621510m_1397577658247094102m_5532779628342135734gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>David<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 2:52 PM Mike DePaulo <<a href="mailto:mikedep333@redhat.com" target="_blank">mikedep333@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">+1 to the "Pulp 2" tag.<br><div>(I was just thinking this.)</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:28 PM Austin Macdonald <<a href="mailto:amacdona@redhat.com" target="_blank">amacdona@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Pulp2 tag sounds great to me. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 16:23 Brian Bouterse <<a href="mailto:bbouters@redhat.com" target="_blank">bbouters@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>+1 to making a 'Pulp 2' tag</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:16 PM David Davis <<a href="mailto:daviddavis@redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">daviddavis@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I’ve been thinking through this and I think there are 3 steps to perform:<div><br></div><div>1. Create a Pulp 2 tag</div><div>2. Assign the Pulp 2 tag to issues not tagged with Pulp 3</div><div>3. Remove the Pulp 3 tag</div><div><br></div><div>Does that make sense? If so, I’d like to perform 1 and create the Pulp 2 tag in the next few days so we can start adding it to issues.</div><div><br></div><div>I’ll follow up with more concrete plans for steps 2 and 3 next week.<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-6800347846196434630gmail-m_4047351964012815825gmail-m_-1455972368295342622gmail-m_-3291566699928069334gmail-m_649239053504621510gmail-m_1397577658247094102gmail-m_5532779628342135734gmail-m_-5366360338618096632gmail-m_-8913523632671244048m_4128508116052989959gmail-m_-2733498711235162451m_-7951631383160278893m_7151340690421438910gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>David<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 11:10 AM David Davis <<a href="mailto:daviddavis@redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">daviddavis@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Cool, I will try to think through how to transition and we can discuss at the team meeting Monday.<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-6800347846196434630gmail-m_4047351964012815825gmail-m_-1455972368295342622gmail-m_-3291566699928069334gmail-m_649239053504621510gmail-m_1397577658247094102gmail-m_5532779628342135734gmail-m_-5366360338618096632gmail-m_-8913523632671244048m_4128508116052989959gmail-m_-2733498711235162451gmail-m_-7951631383160278893gmail-m_7151340690421438910gmail-m_-8524099605444334723gmail-m_-3963364193663161021m_-5159254147574992059gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"></div></div></div></div></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-6800347846196434630gmail-m_4047351964012815825gmail-m_-1455972368295342622gmail-m_-3291566699928069334gmail-m_649239053504621510gmail-m_1397577658247094102gmail-m_5532779628342135734gmail-m_-5366360338618096632gmail-m_-8913523632671244048m_4128508116052989959gmail-m_-2733498711235162451gmail-m_-7951631383160278893gmail-m_7151340690421438910gmail-m_-8524099605444334723gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>David<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 11:04 AM Ina Panova <<a href="mailto:ipanova@redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ipanova@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">+1 to create a pulp2 tag after mass-close<br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-6800347846196434630gmail-m_4047351964012815825gmail-m_-1455972368295342622gmail-m_-3291566699928069334gmail-m_649239053504621510gmail-m_1397577658247094102gmail-m_5532779628342135734gmail-m_-5366360338618096632gmail-m_-8913523632671244048m_4128508116052989959gmail-m_-2733498711235162451gmail-m_-7951631383160278893gmail-m_7151340690421438910gmail-m_-8524099605444334723gmail-m_6058596453792539577gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><br><br>--------<br>Regards,<br><br>Ina Panova<br>Software Engineer| Pulp| Red Hat Inc.<br><br>"Do not go where the path may lead,<br> go instead where there is no path and leave a trail."<br></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 3:48 PM Brian Bouterse <<a href="mailto:bbouters@redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bbouters@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Great idea David!<br></div><div><br></div><div>Once we get through tomorrow's mass-close, let's plan a transition to remove the Pulp3 tag and introduce a Pulp 2 tag instead.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 9:34 AM Dana Walker <<a href="mailto:dawalker@redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">dawalker@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>+1</div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-6800347846196434630gmail-m_4047351964012815825gmail-m_-1455972368295342622gmail-m_-3291566699928069334gmail-m_649239053504621510gmail-m_1397577658247094102gmail-m_5532779628342135734gmail-m_-5366360338618096632gmail-m_-8913523632671244048m_4128508116052989959gmail-m_-2733498711235162451gmail-m_-7951631383160278893gmail-m_7151340690421438910gmail-m_-8524099605444334723gmail-m_6058596453792539577gmail-m_6328323571252630282gmail-m_-8187039208314961761gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div> <p style="font-weight:bold;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:14px;text-transform:uppercase"><span>Dana</span> <span>Walker</span></p> <p style="font-weight:normal;font-size:10px;margin:0px 0px 4px;text-transform:uppercase"><span>Software Engineer</span><span style="font-weight:normal;color:rgb(170,170,170);margin:0px"></span></p> <p style="font-weight:normal;margin:0px;font-size:10px;color:rgb(153,153,153)"><a style="color:rgb(0,136,206);font-size:10px;margin:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:overpass,sans-serif" href="https://www.redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Red Hat <span><br><br></span></a></p> <p style="font-weight:normal;margin:0px 0px 6px;font-size:10px;color:rgb(153,153,153)"> </p> <table border="0"><tbody><tr><td width="100px"><a href="https://red.ht/sig" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> <img src="https://www.redhat.com/files/brand/email/sig-redhat.png" width="90" height="auto"></a> </td> </tr></tbody></table> </div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 9:22 AM Daniel Alley <<a href="mailto:dalley@redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">dalley@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I feel like using the Pulp 3 tag is suboptimal since we are closing out most of our Pulp 2 issues and a majority of the new bugs/tasks/stories are for Pulp 3. Wouldn’t it make more sense to create a Pulp 2 tag and use it on the rare Pulp 2 issues that get filed?</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Agreed, +1 to having a "Pulp 2" tag to replace the Pulp 3 tag. <br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 9:19 AM David Davis <<a href="mailto:daviddavis@redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">daviddavis@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">I feel like using the Pulp 3 tag is suboptimal since we are closing out most of our Pulp 2 issues and a majority of the new bugs/tasks/stories are for Pulp 3. Wouldn’t it make more sense to create a Pulp 2 tag and use it on the rare Pulp 2 issues that get filed?<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-6800347846196434630gmail-m_4047351964012815825gmail-m_-1455972368295342622gmail-m_-3291566699928069334gmail-m_649239053504621510gmail-m_1397577658247094102gmail-m_5532779628342135734gmail-m_-5366360338618096632gmail-m_-8913523632671244048m_4128508116052989959gmail-m_-2733498711235162451gmail-m_-7951631383160278893gmail-m_7151340690421438910gmail-m_-8524099605444334723gmail-m_6058596453792539577gmail-m_6328323571252630282gmail-m_-8187039208314961761gmail-m_-7036026146478086822gmail-m_-8586498880412723206m_3471486881856816206gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>David<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 8:27 AM Ina Panova <<a href="mailto:ipanova@redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ipanova@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">+1 to handle tag during the triage process<br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-6800347846196434630gmail-m_4047351964012815825gmail-m_-1455972368295342622gmail-m_-3291566699928069334gmail-m_649239053504621510gmail-m_1397577658247094102gmail-m_5532779628342135734gmail-m_-5366360338618096632gmail-m_-8913523632671244048m_4128508116052989959gmail-m_-2733498711235162451gmail-m_-7951631383160278893gmail-m_7151340690421438910gmail-m_-8524099605444334723gmail-m_6058596453792539577gmail-m_6328323571252630282gmail-m_-8187039208314961761gmail-m_-7036026146478086822gmail-m_-8586498880412723206gmail-m_3471486881856816206gmail-m_812371558142346263gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><br><br>--------<br>Regards,<br><br>Ina Panova<br>Software Engineer| Pulp| Red Hat Inc.<br><br>"Do not go where the path may lead,<br> go instead where there is no path and leave a trail."<br></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:53 PM Brian Bouterse <<a href="mailto:bbouters@redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bbouters@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>+1 to Tanya's suggestion.</div><div><br></div><div>Also I have an action item to start a separate thread on how we can plan-and-then-close all pulp2 bugs that we are not actively working on. I wanted to mention it here to identify it as a possible resolution to this issue since it was related. I'll send this today.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 7:54 AM Tatiana Tereshchenko <<a href="mailto:ttereshc@redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ttereshc@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>In my opinion, it's a part of triage or grooming process.</div><div>Triage leader (for issues) and a person who grooms the task should pay attention to the tags.</div><div><br></div><div>Tanya<br> </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 1:47 PM David Davis <<a href="mailto:daviddavis@redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">daviddavis@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Looking in redmine at our current sprint, I see several issues that don’t have Pulp 3 tag that should. Here are some:<div><br></div><div><a href="https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4587" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4587</a></div><div><a href="https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4587" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4595" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4595</a></div><div><a href="https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4595" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4577" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4577</a></div><div><a href="https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4577" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4576" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4576</a></div><div><a href="https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4576" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4545" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4545</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4545" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"></a>Talking with the QE team, it’s difficult for them to get a feel for how much Pulp 2 vs Pulp 3 work there is. I guess we could try to get better about tagging issues when we create them?</div><div><br></div><div>However, at least one issue is by someone outside the core Pulp team and I am not sure community members will know to tag their issues w/ Pulp 3 tag. Are there any other alternatives to ensuring Pulp 3 issues get properly tagged?</div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-6800347846196434630gmail-m_4047351964012815825gmail-m_-1455972368295342622gmail-m_-3291566699928069334gmail-m_649239053504621510gmail-m_1397577658247094102gmail-m_5532779628342135734gmail-m_-5366360338618096632gmail-m_-8913523632671244048m_4128508116052989959gmail-m_-2733498711235162451gmail-m_-7951631383160278893gmail-m_7151340690421438910gmail-m_-8524099605444334723gmail-m_6058596453792539577gmail-m_6328323571252630282gmail-m_-8187039208314961761gmail-m_-7036026146478086822gmail-m_-8586498880412723206gmail-m_3471486881856816206gmail-m_812371558142346263gmail-m_-6197511495139717210gmail-m_6573850349393986155gmail-m_-2972022945023980712gmail-m_3721815412298555924gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>David<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div> 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