<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:26 AM Melanie Corr <<a href="mailto:mcorr@redhat.com">mcorr@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all, <br></div><div><br></div><div>I was reading Dennis Kilban's blog post [1] that talks about using Pulp 3 in a container. Although this is not production-ready as of yet, it is a valuable tool for users. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I would like to take the content of Dennis's blog and create a 'Try Pulp 3 in a Container' page so that it is easy for new users to find, with the caveat that this is not production ready. <br></div><div><br></div><div>One thing that I think could improve is the location of the container. Currently it is located in Dennis's GitHub space. It would be better, if we were to store it somewhere within the main Pulp project space. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Do you think that would be possible? <br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks, <br></div><div><br></div><div>Melanie<br></div><div><br></div><div>[1]<br></div><div><a href="https://pulpproject.org/2020/03/15/pulp-fedora31-single-container/" target="_blank">https://pulpproject.org/2020/03/15/pulp-fedora31-single-container/</a></div><div><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>
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</blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><div>Hi Melanie,</div><div><br></div><div>Creating a new page is a good idea, but I think we need to do some other documentation/overviews first, to avoid confusion around our multiple containers approaches (single container vs pulp-operator.) Also to decide on which easy approach to promote as the best way to *try* pulp.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I agree with you on moving the repo, but note that a rename is planned, so they should probably be done at the same time.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><b>Background</b>:<br></div><div><br></div><div>We started work on pulp-operator (a Kubernetes operator) as a sophisticated set of containers for running Pulp months ago. Once production ready, it will be easy to run for users *if* they already have a full Kubernetes container infrastructure; operators are supposed to provide an app-store like experience where the # of containers is abstracted away.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Later on, we discovered that we could provide a quick & easy way for users to try Pulp 3 by writing an install script around pulp-operator and K3s (lightweight kubernetes.) It's almost like an alternate mode of pulp-operator. It is called "pulp-insta-demo.sh", and it is listed on our home page as "Quickly Try Pulp": <a href="https://pulpproject.org/">https://pulpproject.org/</a> . All users have to do is run it on a standard Linux desktop. laptop or server, without any options or config, and it usually works.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Because many users need to use a single host to run a single container, with directories for storage, etc, we later started work on the single container.</div><div><br></div><div>I've been meaning to write a post about pulp-operator, introducing it, but didn't have time.</div><div><br></div><div>Then Dennis and I intended to add a comparison to pulp-operator in his post, but it fell through the cracks in this hectic (global crisis) month.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I did however write a related-tooling page afterwards, that minimally introduces pulp-operator, and compares pulp-operator to the single container:</div><div><a href="https://pulpproject.org/related-tooling/">https://pulpproject.org/related-tooling/</a></div><div><a href="https://github.com/pulp/pulpproject.org/pull/253">https://github.com/pulp/pulpproject.org/pull/253</a> (PR I just submitted to add pulp-insta-demo.sh)<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><b>What I propose we do</b>:</div><div><br></div><div>I think we should write a post introducing pulp-operator, including pulp-insta-demo.sh . <br></div><div><br></div><div>Then write another post comparing the 2 container solutions (pulp-operator/pulp-insta-demo vs the single container) in greater detail than the "related tooling" page does.</div><div> Perhaps it should be a page (rather than blog post) comparing pulp_installer as well. An overview of all the ways to install Pulp 3.<br></div><div> (To make matters more complicated, we also have manual install instructions, which is a manual way of deploying Pulp how pulp_installer does.)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Then we should decide which approach (single container vs pulp-insta-demo mod of pulp-operator) to list as the recommended way to try Pulp 3. (Again, currently the home page has pulp-insta-demo.)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Then we should write a page about the easiest way to try Pulp 3.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Again, these are only my thoughts, and what I've been planning to do. 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