<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Ar Aoine 23 Aib 2021 ag 14:20, scríobh David Davis <<a href="mailto:daviddavis@redhat.com">daviddavis@redhat.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I'm interested to hear more about the label. Who sets it? And how is it enforced?</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You can take a look at the label in action here: <a href="https://github.com/theforeman/foreman/pulls?q=label%3A%22Demo+worthy%22+is%3Aclosed">https://github.com/theforeman/foreman/pulls?q=label%3A%22Demo+worthy%22+is%3Aclosed</a></div><div>I go through this list looking for volunteers for the Foreman community demo.<br></div><div>The original onus was on the reviewer to assign the label, but that hasn't always worked so when project maintainers meet to review open PRs, the label is often assigned at that stage. <br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Also an observation in Pulp: we tend to merge features right before a release. If we want these demo videos to be part of the release announcement, we'd either have to hold up the release announcement (not great) or release the announcement without the demo videos (which maybe defeats the purpose of the demo videos?).<br clear="all"></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is a good point. Perhaps the point that kills my dream :-)<br></div><div>The original idea of having demos as part of a PR was that there would be content ready when the PR was raised, so it would be already done in time for a release. <br></div><div>In theory, I would have had something to work with for the Pulpcore release announcement. <br></div><div>The long and the short of it is that it would be great to provide more context and more detail of updates to the community. <br></div><div>If it is not possible to do it on a release basis, or a PR basis, perhaps focusing on a short list of demo worthy content for communities and stakeholders would be best? I could gather the demos and use them for a community update every few weeks?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>David</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 4:48 AM Melanie Corr <<a href="mailto:mcorr@redhat.com" target="_blank">mcorr@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hey David,<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Ar Déar 22 Aib 2021 ag 16:14, scríobh David Davis <<a href="mailto:daviddavis@redhat.com" target="_blank">daviddavis@redhat.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:13 AM Melanie Corr <<a href="mailto:mcorr@redhat.com" target="_blank">mcorr@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi ! <br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Ar Máirt 20 Aib 2021 ag 15:02, scríobh David Davis <<a href="mailto:daviddavis@redhat.com" target="_blank">daviddavis@redhat.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"># April 20, 2021<br><br>## Topics<br>* Demo videos?<br> * Was asked about a demo video for a feature<br> * I guess we're not doing these anymore?<br> * Fail to record anything due to capacity and commitments<br> * Record demos ad hoc? <br> * Ask feature writer to record demo when stakeholder asks for one <br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I still think it would be easier for me to share updates and features with the community if there were short demos.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Agree here. I've been trying to record demo videos for new features whenever I implement them.</div></div></div></blockquote><div>Your demos are great. daviddavis++<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> <br></div><div>Can I be a stakeholder asking for demos?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No objection from me.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>By me, I should clarify that I mean the community as a stakeholder. <br></div><div></div><div><div><br></div><div>As Pulp has a number of projects interacting with it, I try to improve the release announcements so it's easier for stakeholders and the wider community to understand the headline features and the purpose of implementing them in pulpcore. Small demos of the headline features, in many instances, would help. <br></div><div></div><div></div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> <br>So, should I remove the request for a demo from the contributor guidelines?</div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>At the very least, we should at least keep the information about how to record a demo video.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><div><br></div><div>Last October/November, we added the need for demos per substantial change to our contribution guidelines. Neither PR contributors nor reviewers seems to have enforced this guideline. I've no doubt that there are a number of valid reasons for this, with the most obvious and ultimate reason being time. </div><div>I understand that a lot of the features in Pulpcore are probably more demoable when a plugin starts to avail of the features. <br></div><div></div><div>Perhaps there might be a cleverer way to select which demo would be worthy of contributor time. <br></div><div>In Foreman, a PR can have the label "demo-worthy" assigned to it. <br></div><div>Would something like this work better?<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">* Releasing <a href="https://pulp.plan.io/issues/8578" target="_blank">https://pulp.plan.io/issues/8578</a><br> * Problem: BaseDistribution is deprecated but plugin api is missing RepositoryVersionRelatedField<br> * 3.12.1 or early/small 3.13.0?<br> * bumping minor release would cause extra churn<br>* 3.13 - <a href="https://pulp.plan.io/versions/188" target="_blank">https://pulp.plan.io/versions/188</a><br> * Needs date and release lead (rotation on lines 10-11)<br>* make distribution update synchronous <a href="https://pulp.plan.io/issues/7762" target="_blank">https://pulp.plan.io/issues/7762</a><br> * rhui would like to dev freeze by may<br>* Streamed endpoints<br> * <a href="https://github.com/pulp/pulp_ansible/pull/562" target="_blank">https://github.com/pulp/pulp_ansible/pull/562</a><br> * faster<br> * query evaluation<br> * gunicorn timeout - blocks API worker<br>* Review old quarter open issues<br> * <a href="https://tinyurl.com/pulpq42020" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/pulpq42020</a><br><br>## Action Items<br>* [david] release 3.12.1 with <a href="https://pulp.plan.io/issues/8578" target="_blank">https://pulp.plan.io/issues/8578</a><br>* [dalley] confirm with rhui if <a href="https://pulp.plan.io/issues/7762" target="_blank">https://pulp.plan.io/issues/7762</a> is still needed given auto-publish/auto-distribute and on the their Dev Freeze timeline<br>* [david] look at the pulp-oci-images and redmine integration<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>David</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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