From yanpeng at mx.cei.gov.cn Wed Aug 2 03:24:45 2006 From: yanpeng at mx.cei.gov.cn (=?gb2312?B?48bF9CAoIFlhbiBQZW5nICk=?=) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:24:45 +0800 Subject: Where to download newer rpm file for perl on RH9 Message-ID: <200608020451.k724pADO027998@mx3.redhat.com> redhat-install-list: I'd like to upgrade the perl version on RH9. But I can't find rpm files on ftp.redhat.com. who can give me another site? Many many thanks. Yan Peng yanpeng at mx.cei.gov.cn 2006-08-02 From pradeepkrlko at gmail.com Wed Aug 2 05:59:26 2006 From: pradeepkrlko at gmail.com (Pradeep Kumar) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:29:26 +0530 Subject: Where to download newer rpm file for perl on RH9 In-Reply-To: <200608020451.k724pADO027998@mx3.redhat.com> References: <200608020451.k724pADO027998@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: Hello, You can try this URL, I hope you will get the needful. http://www.rpmfind.net/ -- -- Regards, Pradeep (India) Mobile no. 9886958460 On 8/2/06, ?? ( Yan Peng ) wrote: > > redhat-install-list: > > I'd like to upgrade the perl version on RH9. But I can't find rpm > files on ftp.redhat.com. who can give me another site? > > Many many thanks. > > Yan Peng > > > yanpeng at mx.cei.gov.cn > 2006-08-02 > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tyche at ica.net Wed Aug 2 15:33:32 2006 From: tyche at ica.net (tyche) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:33:32 -0400 Subject: x not starting Message-ID: <200608021133.32809.tyche@ica.net> having a hard time getting x to run on initial bootup. defaulting for the time being into run level 3, and having to run the setup utility BEFORE running startx. the monitor is viewsonic m70 and the video is an ati radeon 7000 se (pci with 64mb ram). any help would be appreciated. tia tyche -- Win9x A 32 bit extention to a 16 bit patch for a 8 bit operating system on a 4 bit machine by a 2 bit company that cant stand 1 bit of competition From mghofran at caregroup.harvard.edu Wed Aug 2 15:45:07 2006 From: mghofran at caregroup.harvard.edu (mghofran at caregroup.harvard.edu) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:45:07 -0400 Subject: x not starting Message-ID: Maybe you didn't install the "X11" in your initial setup to save disk space. Maybe? -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of tyche Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:34 AM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: x not starting having a hard time getting x to run on initial bootup. defaulting for the time being into run level 3, and having to run the setup utility BEFORE running startx. the monitor is viewsonic m70 and the video is an ati radeon 7000 se (pci with 64mb ram). any help would be appreciated. tia tyche -- Win9x A 32 bit extention to a 16 bit patch for a 8 bit operating system on a 4 bit machine by a 2 bit company that cant stand 1 bit of competition _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Aug 2 18:36:43 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:36:43 -0700 Subject: Where to download newer rpm file for perl on RH9 In-Reply-To: References: <200608020451.k724pADO027998@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1154543803.9495.53.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 11:29 +0530, Pradeep Kumar wrote: > Hello, > > > You can try this URL, I hope you will get the needful. > > http://www.rpmfind.net/ > > -- > -- > Regards, > Pradeep (India) > Mobile no. 9886958460 > > > > On 8/2/06, ?? ( Yan Peng ) wrote: > redhat-install-list: > > I'd like to upgrade the perl version on RH9. But I can't > find rpm files on ftp.redhat.com. who can give me another > site? Red Hat 9 is farking ancient. Support for that product was tranferred to fedoralegacy (http://www.fedoralegacy.org), but that will be ending on December 31, 2006, then RH9 is officially dead. New bugs will only be accepted through September 30, 2006. You really should update to something like FC4 or FC5. You're running an operating system that is well over three years old. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - When in doubt, mumble. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Aug 2 18:40:37 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:40:37 -0700 Subject: x not starting In-Reply-To: <200608021133.32809.tyche@ica.net> References: <200608021133.32809.tyche@ica.net> Message-ID: <1154544038.9495.58.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 11:33 -0400, tyche wrote: > having a hard time getting x to run on initial bootup. > defaulting for the time being into run level 3, and having to > run the setup utility BEFORE running startx. > > the monitor is viewsonic m70 and the video is an ati radeon > 7000 se (pci with 64mb ram). > > any help would be appreciated. Gang, while what Tyche said is useful, we need to know which version of the OS you're running. As to getting X to start up on boot, if you didn't initially install in GUI mode, you must edit the /etc/inittab file. Find the line that reads: id:3:initdefault: And change it to read: id:5:initdefault: In other words, change the "3" to a "5". The system will boot to GUI mode on the next boot. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - BASIC is the Computer Science version of `Scientific Creationism' - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From tyche at ica.net Wed Aug 2 22:30:01 2006 From: tyche at ica.net (tyche) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:30:01 -0400 Subject: x not starting In-Reply-To: <1154544038.9495.58.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> References: <200608021133.32809.tyche@ica.net> <1154544038.9495.58.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> Message-ID: <200608021830.01864.tyche@ica.net> On Wednesday 02 August 2006 14:40, Rick Stevens wrote: > On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 11:33 -0400, tyche wrote: > > having a hard time getting x to run on initial bootup. > > defaulting for the time being into run level 3, and > > having to run the setup utility BEFORE running startx. > > > > the monitor is viewsonic m70 and the video is an ati > > radeon 7000 se (pci with 64mb ram). > > > > any help would be appreciated. > > Gang, while what Tyche said is useful, we need to know > which version of the OS you're running. sorry, comes from lack of sleep and not enough morning coffee. its fc5. > > As to getting X to start up on boot, if you didn't > initially install in GUI mode, you must edit the > /etc/inittab file. Find the line that reads: > > id:3:initdefault: actually prefer 3 myself, but have a pt user of this comp that complains about the typing. > > And change it to read: > > id:5:initdefault: > > In other words, change the "3" to a "5". The system will > boot to GUI mode on the next boot. > > ----------------------------------------------------------- >----------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer -- Win9x A 32 bit extention to a 16 bit patch for a 8 bit operating system on a 4 bit machine by a 2 bit company that cant stand 1 bit of competition From tyche at ica.net Wed Aug 2 22:52:52 2006 From: tyche at ica.net (tyche) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:52:52 -0400 Subject: asus mobo, fc5, nvidia chipset, and fixing hd Message-ID: <200608021852.52928.tyche@ica.net> recently had a friend give me his comp, and i tried to install fc5 x86_64 on it. the first problem i encountered was the hard drive had (according to anaconda) was that it had more than 1024 cylinders on it, 75000+ on a 40gb wd hd. got to a text screen, used fdisk x c 1024 w and rebooted the machine. still have the 75000 or so cylinders. did some calling and found that the mobo had an nvidia chipset on it. it would appear that to install fc5 on this particular board, i have to build a driver disk with the proprietary nvidia drivers on it. that i have no idea how to do. also have to get the hd back to 1024 cylinders. any help will be very gratefully appreciated. tia tyche asus mobo: k8n nvidia chipset: NVIDIA nForce3 250 -- Win9x A 32 bit extention to a 16 bit patch for a 8 bit operating system on a 4 bit machine by a 2 bit company that cant stand 1 bit of competition From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Aug 3 00:57:56 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:57:56 -0700 Subject: asus mobo, fc5, nvidia chipset, and fixing hd In-Reply-To: <200608021852.52928.tyche@ica.net> References: <200608021852.52928.tyche@ica.net> Message-ID: <1154566676.9495.90.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 18:52 -0400, tyche wrote: > recently had a friend give me his comp, and i tried to install > fc5 x86_64 on it. the first problem i encountered was the > hard drive had (according to anaconda) was that it had more > than 1024 cylinders on it, 75000+ on a 40gb wd hd. > > got to a text screen, used fdisk x c 1024 w and rebooted the > machine. still have the 75000 or so cylinders. Not a problem. Read on. > > did some calling and found that the mobo had an nvidia chipset > on it. it would appear that to install fc5 on this particular > board, i have to build a driver disk with the proprietary > nvidia drivers on it. Not necessary for FC5 for normal operations. Install in text mode only. FC5 includes a NIC driver for the nVidia chipset. For GUI operations, you'll need to install the nvidia drivers or live with VESA mode. To install the nvidia drivers, enable the nvidia yum repository. I'd add the following two files to /etc/yum.repos.d: --------------------------------------------------------------------- livna-devel.repo: [livna-development] name=Livna for Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Development Tree baseurl= http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/development/$basearch/ http://livna.cat.pdx.edu/fedora/development/$basearch/ http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/livna/fedora/development/$basearch/ http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/rpm.livna.org/fedora/development/$basearch/ http://mirror.atrpms.net/livna/fedora/development/$basearch/ ftp://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/rpm.livna.org/fedora/development/$basearch/ failovermethod=priority #mirrorlist=http://rpm.livna.org/mirrorlist-development enabled=0 gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-livna [livna-development-debuginfo] name=Livna for Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Development Tree - Debug baseurl= http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/development/$basearch/debug/ http://livna.cat.pdx.edu/fedora/development/$basearch/debug/ http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/livna/fedora/development/$basearch/debug/ http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/rpm.livna.org/fedora/development/$basearch/debug/ http://mirror.atrpms.net/livna/fedora/development/$basearch/debug/ ftp://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/rpm.livna.org/fedora/development/$basearch/debug/ failovermethod=priority enabled=0 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-livna gpgcheck=1 [livna-development-source] name=Livna for Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Development Tree - Source baseurl= http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/development/SRPMS/ http://livna.cat.pdx.edu/fedora/development/SRPMS/ http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/livna/fedora/development/SRPMS/ http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/rpm.livna.org/fedora/development/SRPMS/ http://mirror.atrpms.net/livna/fedora/development/SRPMS/ ftp://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/rpm.livna.org/fedora/development/SRPMS/ failovermethod=priority enabled=0 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-livna gpgcheck=1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- livna.repo: [livna] name=Livna for Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Base baseurl= http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/ http://livna.cat.pdx.edu/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/ http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/livna/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/ http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/ http://mirror.atrpms.net/livna/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/ ftp://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/ failovermethod=priority #mirrorlist=http://rpm.livna.org/mirrorlist-5 enabled=1 gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-livna [livna-debuginfo] name=Livna for Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Debug baseurl= http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/debug/ http://livna.cat.pdx.edu/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/debug/ http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/livna/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/debug/ http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/debug/ http://mirror.atrpms.net/livna/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/debug/ ftp://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/debug/ failovermethod=priority enabled=0 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-livna gpgcheck=1 [livna-source] name=Livna for Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Source baseurl= http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/SRPMS/ http://livna.cat.pdx.edu/fedora/$releasever/SRPMS/ http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/livna/fedora/$releasever/SRPMS/ http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/SRPMS/ http://mirror.atrpms.net/livna/fedora/$releasever/SRPMS/ ftp://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/SRPMS/ failovermethod=priority enabled=0 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-livna gpgcheck=1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Once that's done, "yum install kmod-nvidia" to install the drivers. Then run "system-config-display" to configure it. > also have to get the hd back to 1024 cylinders. any help will > be very gratefully appreciated. The cylinder count is handled by BIOS. Make sure the drive is being handled in LBA mode in the BIOS. The >1024 cylinder count is irrelevant as long as your /boot partition is within the first 1024 cylinders or you use grub as your boot loader in the MBR of the drive. The BIOS on most older machines is incapable of accessing a cylinder >1023, but grub isn't. Example, on an nVidia-based Athlon at home: [root at xyclone ~]# fdisk -l Disk /dev/hda: 81.9 GB, 81964302336 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9964 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 131 1052226 83 Linux /dev/hda2 132 653 4192965 83 Linux /dev/hda3 654 914 2096482+ 83 Linux /dev/hda4 915 9964 72694125 5 Extended /dev/hda5 915 979 522081 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/hda6 980 9964 72171981 83 Linux Works fine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? I don't know. Who cares? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From interp01 at sevenbelow.com Thu Aug 3 07:18:25 2006 From: interp01 at sevenbelow.com (interp01 at sevenbelow.com) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: IBM T60p - No Device Found for ipw3945 WiFi card on FC5 most recent kernel Message-ID: <38007.192.168.1.53.1154589505.squirrel@www.sevenbelow.com> I need some insight as to what Im doing wrong with the IPW3945 Wifi card not being found. Im really lost as to what Im doing wrong and yes I have cponfirmed that the wireless card is enabled in the BIOS :) Ont to my novel of what I have already tried.... PLEASE HELP!!!! I really dont want to tun this laptop into wall arter :) Here is what I have done to date: I have been able to compile necesary drivers using RPMs for my kernel (2.6.17-1.2157_FC5smp. The driver module is being located and loaded without errors in dmesg, dmesg | less shows: ieee80211_crypt: no version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted. ieee80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'NULL' ieee80211: 802.11 data/management/control stack, 1.1.14 ieee80211: Copyright (C) 2004-2005 Intel Corporation ipw3945: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945 Network Connection driver for Linux, 1.1.0-pre2d ipw3945: Copyright(c) 2003-2006 Intel Corporation When I do an lsmod the drivers are present and are being used by the ieee80211 modules. An lsmod shows the modules being loaded: ipw3945 190888 0 ieee80211 33224 1 ipw3945 ieee80211_crypt 9984 1 ieee80211 When I look in the Network Configuration, the hardware tab does show the ipw3945 as being present, but it states the status as configured. I can load the modules without any error but when I try to bring up the interface I get the following error: ipw3945 device eth1 does not seem to be present, delaying initialization I thought this maybe was the result of an IRQ conflict, but when I changed the the IRQ to one that wasnt being used under cat /proc/interrupts, I still get the same error. I thought this was maybe caused by a firmware issue. the ipw3945.Ucode Microcode is located under my /lib/firmware, but there is no .fw file in there, just the ipw3945.ucode file. I dont have the file /etc/hotpulg/firmward.agent file so is it possible the firmware isnt being loaded??? The directory /etc/hotplug isnt even there. I found an article on the net that described the configuration for the modprobe.conf file, and this is what I have in there: alias eth1 ipw3945 install ipw3945 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install ipw3945 ; sleep 0.5 ; /sbin/ipw3945d --quiet remove ipw3945 /sbin/ipw3945d --kill ; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove ipw3945 It also stated that I need to add the following line to my rc.local file /sbin/ipw3945d --quiet Im really at an end here and Im not even sure what I can try next.... Its as if the hardware isnt being recognized. Any thoughts on what I should try next would be greatly appreciated. Thanks much, Interp01 From softnettechno at yahoo.ca Thu Aug 3 14:53:17 2006 From: softnettechno at yahoo.ca (SoftNet Technologies) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 10:53:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Grub entries for windows on 2nd hdd Message-ID: <20060803145317.60499.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Dear All, I m running linux on first hdd (/dev/hda) and windows on (/dev/hdb) I want to boot windows from grub.conf. I tried to my best to boot but i failed. Please send me the correct grub.conf entries to finish this task. Thanks Balkar singh --------------------------------- Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From redhat-install-list at hyperbole-software.com Thu Aug 3 16:36:28 2006 From: redhat-install-list at hyperbole-software.com (Carl Reynolds) Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:36:28 -0400 Subject: Which version should we use on an old machine? Message-ID: <44D2260C.604@hyperbole-software.com> My son was given a couple of old computers. They are Pentium 266MHz with 32MB of RAM and 2.6GB hard drives. He wants to learn more about networking and we have some extra LAN cards lying around here. So I suggested that he clean the disks and try to load Linux on them to start. Then he can set one of them up as a router. What version of Linux should he use on these machines? It seems to me that any recent version of Fedora Core would need more memory and more disk space than is available with these machines, but I have never tried to install a minimal version of Linux on a machine. Do you have any suggestions of which version would be good for him to start with? Thanks, Carl. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Aug 3 18:13:54 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:13:54 -0700 Subject: Which version should we use on an old machine? In-Reply-To: <44D2260C.604@hyperbole-software.com> References: <44D2260C.604@hyperbole-software.com> Message-ID: <1154628834.9495.95.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 12:36 -0400, Carl Reynolds wrote: > My son was given a couple of old computers. They are Pentium 266MHz with > 32MB of RAM and 2.6GB hard drives. He wants to learn more about > networking and we have some extra LAN cards lying around here. So I > suggested that he clean the disks and try to load Linux on them to > start. Then he can set one of them up as a router. > > What version of Linux should he use on these machines? It seems to me > that any recent version of Fedora Core would need more memory and more > disk space than is available with these machines, but I have never tried > to install a minimal version of Linux on a machine. > > Do you have any suggestions of which version would be good for him to > start with? Well, for the most part, Fedora and any fairly recent Red Hat is out of the question. It needs far more memory than he's got. With 32MB, you really pretty much in trouble with almost anything based on a 2.6 kernel. Your best bet is probably Tiny Linux (http://tiny.seul.org/en/). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Do you know where _your_ towel is? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From bob at bobcatos.com Thu Aug 3 18:15:26 2006 From: bob at bobcatos.com (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:15:26 -0500 Subject: Grub entries for windows on 2nd hdd In-Reply-To: <20060803145317.60499.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060803145317.60499.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060803181526.GA16384@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 10:53:17AM -0400, SoftNet Technologies wrote: > Dear All, > I m running linux on first hdd (/dev/hda) and windows on (/dev/hdb) > I want to boot windows from grub.conf. > I tried to my best to boot but i failed. > Please send me the correct grub.conf entries to finish this task. > Thanks > Balkar singh I could be wrong (corrections encouraged) but I don't think Windoze will boot from the second drive. You may have to swap or re-jumper drives, boot to rescue mode with the install CD, and change references in /boot/grub/grub.conf and /etc/fstab from hda to hdb and hd(0,x) to hd(1.x). Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD. - Psalm 33:12 Righteousness exalts a nation. - Proverbs 14:34 From bob at bobcatos.com Thu Aug 3 18:21:51 2006 From: bob at bobcatos.com (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:21:51 -0500 Subject: Which version should we use on an old machine? In-Reply-To: <44D2260C.604@hyperbole-software.com> References: <44D2260C.604@hyperbole-software.com> Message-ID: <20060803182151.GB16384@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 12:36:28PM -0400, Carl Reynolds wrote: > My son was given a couple of old computers. They are Pentium 266MHz with > 32MB of RAM and 2.6GB hard drives. He wants to learn more about > networking and we have some extra LAN cards lying around here. So I > suggested that he clean the disks and try to load Linux on them to > start. Then he can set one of them up as a router. > > What version of Linux should he use on these machines? It seems to me > that any recent version of Fedora Core would need more memory and more > disk space than is available with these machines, but I have never tried > to install a minimal version of Linux on a machine. > > Do you have any suggestions of which version would be good for him to > start with? I'd go with FC4 or FC5, but do either a server install or custom install (I recommend the latter) excluding most X stuff and other fluff you don't need. I think it'll fit. See also http://www.rule-project.org/ > Thanks, > Carl. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD. - Psalm 33:12 Righteousness exalts a nation. - Proverbs 14:34 From inode0 at gmail.com Thu Aug 3 18:45:38 2006 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:45:38 -0500 Subject: Which version should we use on an old machine? In-Reply-To: <1154628834.9495.95.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> References: <44D2260C.604@hyperbole-software.com> <1154628834.9495.95.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> Message-ID: On 8/3/06, Rick Stevens wrote: > On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 12:36 -0400, Carl Reynolds wrote: > > Do you have any suggestions of which version would be good for him to > > start with? > > Well, for the most part, Fedora and any fairly recent Red Hat is out of > the question. It needs far more memory than he's got. With 32MB, you > really pretty much in trouble with almost anything based on a 2.6 > kernel. > > Your best bet is probably Tiny Linux (http://tiny.seul.org/en/). I currently run slackware (fairly current version) on a libretto 50CT which IIRC is a P75 with 32MB of memory. It is a 2.4 kernel but runs quite nicely. If linux isn't required NetBSD also runs well on the same machine. For your amusement I tried to get some form of Red Hat on a similar libretto, this one a P120 I think with only 16M of memory. Working backwards success occured with 7.3. Now it is a portable serial console. :) John From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Aug 3 18:54:58 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:54:58 -0700 Subject: IBM T60p - No Device Found for ipw3945 WiFi card on FC5 most recent kernel In-Reply-To: <38007.192.168.1.53.1154589505.squirrel@www.sevenbelow.com> References: <38007.192.168.1.53.1154589505.squirrel@www.sevenbelow.com> Message-ID: <1154631298.9495.115.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 00:18 -0700, interp01 at sevenbelow.com wrote: > I need some insight as to what Im doing wrong with the IPW3945 Wifi card > not being found. Im really lost as to what Im doing wrong and yes I have > cponfirmed that the wireless card is enabled in the BIOS :) > > Ont to my novel of what I have already tried.... PLEASE HELP!!!! I > really dont want to tun this laptop into wall arter :) > > Here is what I have done to date: > > I have been able to compile necesary drivers using RPMs for my kernel > (2.6.17-1.2157_FC5smp. The driver module is being located and loaded > without errors in dmesg, dmesg | less shows: > > ieee80211_crypt: no version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted. > ieee80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'NULL' > ieee80211: 802.11 data/management/control stack, 1.1.14 > ieee80211: Copyright (C) 2004-2005 Intel Corporation > > ipw3945: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945 Network Connection driver for Linux, > 1.1.0-pre2d > ipw3945: Copyright(c) 2003-2006 Intel Corporation > > When I do an lsmod the drivers are present and are being used by the > ieee80211 modules. > > An lsmod shows the modules being loaded: > > ipw3945 190888 0 > ieee80211 33224 1 ipw3945 > ieee80211_crypt 9984 1 ieee80211 Wrong. The above display shows that ipw3945 is USING ieee80211, not the other way around. > > > When I look in the Network Configuration, the hardware tab does show the > ipw3945 as being present, but it states the status as configured. Hmmm, it shows it as configured? Really? What does "ifconfig" show? > I can load the modules without any error but when I try to bring up the > interface I get the following error: > > ipw3945 device eth1 does not seem to be present, delaying initialization No. I suspect that the ipw3945 driver doesn't recognize your card. Remember that the driver is looking for the manufacturer and product IDs of your card. If the IDs aren't ones that the driver recognizes, it won't talk to the card. Do an "lspci" and identify the bus ID of the card, then do an "lspci -n" and look at the manufacturer and product IDs for the device with that bus ID. For example, on my Broadcom: [root at golem2 root]# lspci 03:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) [root at golem2 root]# lspci -n 03:02.0 0280: 14e4:4318 (rev 02) Therefore, the driver I use must recognize 14e4:4318 as a device it can control. I suspect that this isn't the case with your driver. The only way to tell for sure is to look at the source code. I don't have the source for that driver handy, but the other ipwXXXX drivers have the stuff embedded in the "ipwXXXX.c" file, e.g. for the ipw2200, in the ipw2200.c file, you'll see lines like: {PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL, 0x1043, 0x8086, 0x2701, 0, 0, 0}, indicating that the driver will talk to devices with the Intel mfg. ID (0x8086) and a device ID of 0x1043 (among others). Grab the device ID from the "lspci -n" data (number after the colon), go into the source for the driver and do "grep -r *". If you get a line that looks like it should recognize the card, the driver should work. > I thought this maybe was the result of an IRQ conflict, but when I changed > the the IRQ to one that wasnt being used under cat /proc/interrupts, I > still get the same error. > > I thought this was maybe caused by a firmware issue. > the ipw3945.Ucode Microcode is located under my /lib/firmware, but there > is no .fw file in there, just the ipw3945.ucode file. > > I dont have the file /etc/hotpulg/firmward.agent file so is it possible > the firmware isnt being loaded??? The directory /etc/hotplug isnt even > there. > > I found an article on the net that described the configuration for the > modprobe.conf file, and this is what I have in there: > > alias eth1 ipw3945 > install ipw3945 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install ipw3945 ; sleep 0.5 ; > /sbin/ipw3945d --quiet > remove ipw3945 /sbin/ipw3945d --kill ; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove > ipw3945 > > It also stated that I need to add the following line to my rc.local file > /sbin/ipw3945d --quiet > > > Im really at an end here and Im not even sure what I can try next.... Its > as if the hardware isnt being recognized. Any thoughts on what I should > try next would be greatly appreciated. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Working with Linux is like wrestling with a worthy opponent. - - Working with Windows is like picking on an annoyed child with a - - loaded handgun. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From tyche at ica.net Fri Aug 4 13:30:02 2006 From: tyche at ica.net (tyche at ica.net) Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 09:30:02 -0400 Subject: x not starting on pci radeon Message-ID: <200608041411.k74EBB5x022119@mx3.redhat.com> mobo: asrock k7upgrade 600 video: pci radeon 7000 se stock fc5 x86 attached is config and log files from my machine. is there a work around for this? tia tyche ---- Msg sent via ICA Mail - http://www.ica.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Here's mine from an FC4 Opteron system using the RV9600SE chipset: ---------------------------- CUT HERE ---------------------------------- # XFree86 4 configuration created by pyxf86config Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" # RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "unix/:7100" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "extmod" Load "fbdevhw" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "freetype" Load "type1" Load "dri" Load "vnc" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Option "Xleds" "1 2 3" # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable. # Option "XkbDisable" # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the # lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. # keyboard, you will probably want to use: # Option "XkbModel" "pc102" # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: # Option "XkbModel" "microsoft" # # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. # For example, a german layout can be obtained with: # Option "XkbLayout" "de" # or: # Option "XkbLayout" "de" # Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" # # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and # control keys, use: # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps" # Or if you just want both to be control, use: # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" # Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "ViewSonic G771" HorizSync 30.0 - 70.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 180.0 Option "dpms" EndSection # This was the selection as probed by Anaconda... #Section "Device" # Identifier "Videocard0" # Driver "vesa" # VendorName "Videocard vendor" # BoardName "VESA driver (generic)" #EndSection # This is the REAL driver we want... Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "radeon" VendorName "ATI Technologies" BoardName "Radeon 9600SE (RV350)" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" Option "passwordFile" "/root/.vnc/passwd" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection Section "DRI" Group 0 Mode 0666 EndSection ---------------------------- CUT HERE ---------------------------------- Modify as you see fit. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Fri Aug 4 16:35:39 2006 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:35:39 -0700 Subject: Question regarding /etc/passwd Message-ID: If in the shell location of an account, a /dev/null entry is placed. The account can't login, as there is no shell to login to. Correct? Can scripts, etc. be executed as that account? If so, how? I'm assuming via su. Thanks. From tyche at ica.net Fri Aug 4 17:10:29 2006 From: tyche at ica.net (tyche) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:10:29 -0400 Subject: x not starting on pci radeon In-Reply-To: <1154708385.20797.2.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> References: <200608041411.k74EBB5x022119@mx3.redhat.com> <1154708385.20797.2.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> Message-ID: <200608041310.29408.tyche@ica.net> On Friday 04 August 2006 12:19, Rick Stevens wrote: > On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 09:30 -0400, tyche at ica.net wrote: > > mobo: asrock k7upgrade 600 > > video: pci radeon 7000 se > > > > stock fc5 x86 > > > > attached is config and log files from my machine. is > > there a work around for this? > > How about your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? That'd be helpful. > Here's mine from an FC4 Opteron system using the RV9600SE > chipset: thanks rick, muchly appreaciated. the conf file was included. dont know what happened to it. editted and working, ty rick and knoppix tvm tyche From tyche at ica.net Fri Aug 4 17:20:01 2006 From: tyche at ica.net (tyche) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:20:01 -0400 Subject: Grub entries for windows on 2nd hdd In-Reply-To: <20060803181526.GA16384@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <20060803145317.60499.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> <20060803181526.GA16384@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <200608041320.01177.tyche@ica.net> On Thursday 03 August 2006 14:15, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 10:53:17AM -0400, SoftNet Technologies wrote: > > Dear All, > > I m running linux on first hdd (/dev/hda) and windows > > on (/dev/hdb) I want to boot windows from grub.conf. > > I tried to my best to boot but i failed. > > Please send me the correct grub.conf entries to finish > > this task. Thanks > > Balkar singh > > I could be wrong (corrections encouraged) but I don't think > Windoze will boot from the second drive. You may have to > swap or re-jumper drives, boot to rescue mode with the > install CD, and change references in /boot/grub/grub.conf > and /etc/fstab from hda to hdb and hd(0,x) to hd(1.x). > > Cheers, i used to have windoze (ME) on hdb1 and used the bios to boot into it from the boot menu. hth tyche -- Win9x A 32 bit extention to a 16 bit patch for a 8 bit operating system on a 4 bit machine by a 2 bit company that cant stand 1 bit of competition From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Aug 4 18:07:38 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:07:38 -0700 Subject: Question regarding /etc/passwd In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1154714858.20797.12.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 09:35 -0700, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > If in the shell location of an account, a /dev/null entry is placed. > > The account can't login, as there is no shell to login to. Correct? > > Can scripts, etc. be executed as that account? If so, how? I'm > assuming via su. Uh, the more proper thing to do is make the shell either /sbin/nologin or /sbin/noaccess (whichever is appropriate to your system) or the old standby, /bin/false. I wouldn't set it to /dev/null. Note that if the shell No, you can't run anything that needs a shell or stdin/stdout/stderr. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Aug 4 18:41:04 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:41:04 -0700 Subject: x not starting on pci radeon In-Reply-To: <200608041310.29408.tyche@ica.net> References: <200608041411.k74EBB5x022119@mx3.redhat.com> <1154708385.20797.2.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> <200608041310.29408.tyche@ica.net> Message-ID: <1154716865.20797.34.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 13:10 -0400, tyche wrote: > On Friday 04 August 2006 12:19, Rick Stevens wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 09:30 -0400, tyche at ica.net wrote: > > > mobo: asrock k7upgrade 600 > > > video: pci radeon 7000 se > > > > > > stock fc5 x86 > > > > > > attached is config and log files from my machine. is > > > there a work around for this? > > > > How about your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? That'd be helpful. > > Here's mine from an FC4 Opteron system using the RV9600SE > > chipset: > thanks rick, muchly appreaciated. the conf file was included. > dont know what happened to it. > > editted and working, ty rick and knoppix So it starts up OK now? Terrific! Glad to help. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Daddy, why doesn't this magnet pick up this floppy disk?" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pwc at u.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 23:44:28 2006 From: pwc at u.washington.edu (Paul Campbell) Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:44:28 -0700 Subject: dma timeout expiry Message-ID: <44D3DBDC.2000104@u.washington.edu> I have been trying to get an install of fedora 5 or RH AS 4 up 3 on a Dell Precision 360 with limited sucess. I have been able to get thru the install and boot process by specifying "nodma" but after the install io to the drive seems to very slow. Too slow to use for development. Machine has two WD 1200 JB disks These are the Messages that I was getting before I specified nodma dma timeout expiry status = 0x61 dma timeout error status = 0x58 Drive Ready Seek Complete Data Request The messages following that show the disk geometry, so it's clear that they can get to the drive. Could the size of the disks be a problem ? Machine runs Windows fine. The Machine ran fine when it ran RedHat WS with a 2.4 kernel. This must be a "Well - known problem" but I scanned the archive for last year and could not find similiar. From admin at tootai.net Sat Aug 5 10:41:30 2006 From: admin at tootai.net (Administrator TOOTAI) Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:41:30 +0200 Subject: Question regarding /etc/passwd In-Reply-To: <1154714858.20797.12.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> References: <1154714858.20797.12.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> Message-ID: <44D475DA.90005@tootai.net> Rick Stevens wrote: > On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 09:35 -0700, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >> If in the shell location of an account, a /dev/null entry is placed. >> >> The account can't login, as there is no shell to login to. Correct? >> >> Can scripts, etc. be executed as that account? If so, how? I'm >> assuming via su. >> > > Uh, the more proper thing to do is make the shell either /sbin/nologin > or /sbin/noaccess (whichever is appropriate to your system) or the old > standby, /bin/false. I wouldn't set it to /dev/null. > +1 > Note that if the shell No, you can't run anything that needs a shell or > stdin/stdout/stderr. > Other solution is to replace the x from /etc/passwd password column with * which means no terminal. -- Daniel From redhat-install-list at hyperbole-software.com Sun Aug 6 17:08:08 2006 From: redhat-install-list at hyperbole-software.com (Carl Reynolds) Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:08:08 -0400 Subject: Which version should we use on an old machine? In-Reply-To: <44D2260C.604@hyperbole-software.com> References: <44D2260C.604@hyperbole-software.com> Message-ID: <44D621F8.1070408@hyperbole-software.com> Carl Reynolds wrote: > My son was given a couple of old computers. ... > What version of Linux should he use on these machines? Rick Stevens wrote: >Your best bet is probably Tiny Linux (http://tiny.seul.org/en/). > inode0 wrote: > I currently run slackware Bob McClure wrote: >I'd go with FC4 or FC5, but do either a server install or custom >install (I recommend the latter) excluding most X stuff and other >fluff you don't need. I think it'll fit. > >See also http://www.rule-project.org/ > Thanks for your suggestions, guys. My son has decided to start with Tiny Linux and will probably try the a full Slackware install after that. If we have a chance, we may try Bob's suggestion of installing a minimal FC4 or FC5. Although, based on inode0's comment, I don't hold out much hope for that working on these machines. He also will have a look at ubuntu and see how well it works on the machine and then may move on to try the Linux from Scratch Project http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ We did run into one problem so far with Tiny Linux. My son downloaded the startup file utils.zip to his Windows PC. When he tried to create the bare.i floppy with rawrite.exe, it gave a message about trying to access DMA beyond 64k, and the floppy wouldn't boot. I then copied base.i to one of my Red Hat machines, used dd to create the base.i floppy, and it worked just fine. I thought I would mention this on the list in case anyone else runs into a similar problem with rawrite.exe. One other thing I wanted to mention is that when the Tiny Linux floppy boots up, it says that it is a Slackware distribution. I'm guessing that it is derived from Slackware, but is not the complete Slackware distribution. Is that so? I'll let you know from time-to-time how he is progressing with this project. Thanks again for your suggestions, Carl. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Aug 7 16:57:21 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 09:57:21 -0700 Subject: dma timeout expiry In-Reply-To: <44D3DBDC.2000104@u.washington.edu> References: <44D3DBDC.2000104@u.washington.edu> Message-ID: <1154969841.20797.79.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 16:44 -0700, Paul Campbell wrote: > I have been trying to get > an install of fedora 5 or RH AS 4 up 3 > on a Dell Precision 360 with limited sucess. > > I have been able to get thru the install and boot > process by specifying "nodma" but after the install > io to the drive seems to very slow. Too slow to use > for development. The "nodma" is generally only required for the CD or DVD device, and then usually during the install only. Once the live kernel is up and running, nodma can usually be turned off. The problem is, whatever was specified on the command line during the install is propagated to the grub commands and must be manually removed--the thought being that if you needed it during install, you'll probably need it during normal operation. In the case of "nodma", that's usually NOT the case. The installer's kernel is known to have issues with DMA and CD/DVDs on certain hardware platforms. The effects can be minimized by specifying the offending device on the command line: hdc=nodma This assumes that /dev/hdc (the master drive on the secondary IDE controller) is the CD/DVD device and is causing the error. Following the install, try removing the parameter from the "kernel" line in the /boot/grub/grub.conf file, reboot and see how the machine behaves. Alternately, you can use hdparm to re-enable DMA on your hard drive(s) while the system is running: hdparm -d1 /dev/hda assuming /dev/hda [master drive on primary IDE interface] is your hard drive. Remember the mapping: /dev/hda master drive on primary interface /dev/hdb slave drive on primary interface /dev/hdc master drive on secondary interface /dev/hdd slave drive on secondary interface > Machine has two WD 1200 JB disks > > These are the Messages that I was getting before > I specified nodma > > dma timeout expiry status = 0x61 > dma timeout error status = 0x58 > Drive Ready > Seek Complete > Data Request Uh, it'd be nice to know which devices these were related to, just to limit confirm which device may still need nodma specified. > > The messages following that show > the disk geometry, so it's clear that > they can get to the drive. > > > Could the size of the disks be a problem ? No. > Machine runs Windows fine. I've seen many a sick machine run Windows. Windows doesn't put as much of a strain on the machine, and Windows doesn't run DMA on CD/DVDs normally. > The Machine ran fine when it ran RedHat WS with a 2.4 > kernel. Smaller kernel, lower performance, not as much strain on DMA. > This must be a "Well - known problem" but I scanned > the archive for last year and could not find similiar. It was far more prevalent on 2.4.14 through 2.4.18 kernels, not so much later. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - You know you've landed gear-up when it takes full power to taxi. - - -- Chuck Yeager - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From salmansiddiqui1234 at rediffmail.com Tue Aug 8 19:14:01 2006 From: salmansiddiqui1234 at rediffmail.com (Salman Siddiqui) Date: 8 Aug 2006 19:14:01 -0000 Subject: alt+ctrl+f1 and other consoles not working?? Message-ID: <20060808191401.2071.qmail@webmail46.rediffmail.com> hi everyone I am using FC4 when I press ctrl+alt+f1 to ctrl+alt+f6 to get into other consoles the screen goes black??? on pressing ctrl+alt+f7 brings the GUI back. how to get to the other consoles??? below is the output of my /etc/inittab file!!!! # # inittab This file describes how the INIT process should set up # the system in a certain run-level. # # Author: Miquel van Smoorenburg, # Modified for RHS Linux by Marc Ewing and Donnie Barnes # # Default runlevel. The runlevels used by RHS are: # 0 - halt (Do NOT set initdefault to this) # 1 - Single user mode # 2 - Multiuser, without NFS (The same as 3, if you do not have networking) # 3 - Full multiuser mode # 4 - unused # 5 - X11 # 6 - reboot (Do NOT set initdefault to this) # id:5:initdefault: # System initialization. si::sysinit:/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit l0:0:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 0 l1:1:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 1 l2:2:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 2 l3:3:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 3 l4:4:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 4 l5:5:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 5 l6:6:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 6 # Trap CTRL-ALT-DELETE ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now # When our UPS tells us power has failed, assume we have a few minutes # of power left. Schedule a shutdown for 2 minutes from now. # This does, of course, assume you have powerd installed and your # UPS connected and working correctly. pf::powerfail:/sbin/shutdown -f -h +2 "Power Failure; System Shutting Down" # If power was restored before the shutdown kicked in, cancel it. pr:12345:powerokwait:/sbin/shutdown -c "Power Restored; Shutdown Cancelled" # Run gettys in standard runlevels 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1 2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty2 3:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty3 4:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty4 5:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty5 6:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty6 # Run xdm in runlevel 5 x:5:once:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon destiny drives the world... try driving destiny!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Aug 9 00:17:02 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:17:02 -0700 Subject: alt+ctrl+f1 and other consoles not working?? In-Reply-To: <20060808191401.2071.qmail@webmail46.rediffmail.com> References: <20060808191401.2071.qmail@webmail46.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <1155082622.20797.115.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Tue, 2006-08-08 at 19:14 +0000, Salman Siddiqui wrote: > > hi everyone > > I am using FC4 > > when I press ctrl+alt+f1 to ctrl+alt+f6 to get into other consoles the > screen goes black??? > on pressing ctrl+alt+f7 brings the GUI back. > > how to get to the other consoles??? Try "CTRL-ALT-F12", followed by simply "ALT-F1". The "CTRL-ALT-F1" should get you a console, but on some systems it doesn't. The "CTRL-ALT-F12" kicks you to a blank screen from which the normal "ALT-Fx" should work. "ALT-F7" will take you back to GUI, since if you watch the startup of X carefully, you'll see that it attaches to the first available tty it can. See my comment below. > > below is the output of my /etc/inittab file!!!! > > > > > # > # inittab This file describes how the INIT process should set up > # the system in a certain run-level. > # > # Author: Miquel van Smoorenburg, > # Modified for RHS Linux by Marc Ewing and Donnie Barnes > # > > # Default runlevel. The runlevels used by RHS are: > # 0 - halt (Do NOT set initdefault to this) > # 1 - Single user mode > # 2 - Multiuser, without NFS (The same as 3, if you do not have > networking) > # 3 - Full multiuser mode > # 4 - unused > # 5 - X11 > # 6 - reboot (Do NOT set initdefault to this) > # > id:5:initdefault: > > # System initialization. > si::sysinit:/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit > > l0:0:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 0 > l1:1:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 1 > l2:2:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 2 > l3:3:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 3 > l4:4:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 4 > l5:5:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 5 > l6:6:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 6 > > # Trap CTRL-ALT-DELETE > ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now > > # When our UPS tells us power has failed, assume we have a few minutes > # of power left. Schedule a shutdown for 2 minutes from now. > # This does, of course, assume you have powerd installed and your > # UPS connected and working correctly. > pf::powerfail:/sbin/shutdown -f -h +2 "Power Failure; System Shutting > Down" > > # If power was restored before the shutdown kicked in, cancel it. > pr:12345:powerokwait:/sbin/shutdown -c "Power Restored; Shutdown > Cancelled" > > > # Run gettys in standard runlevels > 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1 > 2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty2 > 3:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty3 > 4:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty4 > 5:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty5 > 6:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty6 > > # Run xdm in runlevel 5 > x:5:once:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon If you notice in the "Run gettys in standard runlevels" section above, you use tty1 through tty6, so the first unused one is 7 and that's what X attaches to. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Is that a buffer overflow or are you just happy to see me? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From dmorgan1 at dslextreme.com Wed Aug 9 00:19:05 2006 From: dmorgan1 at dslextreme.com (David Morgan) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:19:05 -0700 Subject: Grub entries for Windows on 2nd hdd Message-ID: <44D929F9.60600@dslextreme.com> I've done this. In addition to special config for grub, there's a special way to install Windows. I did both and it worked. I wanted my Windows hdd to become primary slave (hdb). Windows installation: I had to do Windows installation on the target machine with the Windows hdd connected as sole, primary master hard disk. That is, I temporarily removed any other hard disks. And temporarily jumpered the target disk for Windows as master. After successful Windows installation, I reinstalled other hard disks back as usual and rejumpered this one as slave. Installed it too, as primary slave. Grub config: key is the "map" command. See http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/map.html#map Also, http://www.linux-mag.com/2003-11/guru_01.html http://www.linux-mag.com/2003-12/guru_01.html very good article covering grub. My grub.conf with a lot of comments to myself is here: # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You do not have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /, eg. # root (hd0,1) # kernel /boot/vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda2 # initrd /boot/initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/hda default=0 timeout=15 splashimage=(hd0,1)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.358) root (hd0,1) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.358 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.5-1.358.img title WinXP on hdb1 # Put a second hd in Monarch to install XP on (1/05). Installing XP with # both disks present, it insists on placing boot files on first even though # you're installing XP (otherwise) on the second. So I disconnected # first drive (primary master) and re-jumpered second to become first. # Installed XP that way, it put everything in the one-and-only partition. # Then, rejumpered drive to revert to primary slave and reconnected both # drives. How then to get Windows on the primary slave to boot? Two ways. # First, in BIOS tell it to boot from the second. Windows comes up happy, # regarding partition on second as its "C:". Or, let BIOS boot from first. # There, put the necessary GRUB code in mbr. Specifically, use GRUB's # "map" command trickery. "If you have installed [Windows] on a non-first # hard disk, you have to use the disk swapping technique, because that # OS cannot boot from any disks but the first one. [Using map as below] # "This performs a virtual swap between your first and second hard drive." map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) unhide (hd0,3) rootnoverify (hd1,0) chainloader + From tek_guy at rediffmail.com Wed Aug 9 12:18:27 2006 From: tek_guy at rediffmail.com (Tech Guy) Date: 9 Aug 2006 12:18:27 -0000 Subject: RHAS 4.0 not seeing SATA disks Message-ID: <20060809121827.22716.qmail@webmail9.rediffmail.com> Hello, I have two SATA hard disk of 300GB installed on Dell 1600SC with a separate controller card. I am running Redhat Advanced server 4.0 but the issue is Linux is not able to detect those Hard disks. Btw, OS is on a separate SCSI disk. is there any special steps that is needed to configure the SATA hard disks? I appreciate any suggestions and help. Thanks TG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tom ================================================================================== Thomas Walter Geography & Computer Science Departments Hunter College of the City University of New York 695 Park Avenue New York, NY 10021 (212)772-5457 Office (212)772-5268 Fax tbwalter at geo.hunter.cuny.edu http://geography.hunter.cuny.edu/~tbw From dmorgan1 at dslextreme.com Thu Aug 10 20:55:20 2006 From: dmorgan1 at dslextreme.com (David Morgan) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:55:20 -0700 Subject: alt+ctrl+f1 and other consoles not working?? Message-ID: <44DB9D38.8050100@dslextreme.com> FC4 has a bug that can cause this with certain hardware (eg, Intel 82865G integrated graphics controllers). Please see bug reports at: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=161242 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=160453 Replacing /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a with a different version fixes it. As I recall the bug reports direct you to where you can download the "good" libvgahw.a. Alternatively, you can get a copy of it by anonymous ftp from sputnik.smc.edu, pub directory. Fixed a couple classrooms' worth of afflicted machines, hope it fixes yours. From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Fri Aug 11 16:12:10 2006 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:12:10 -0700 Subject: RHAS 4.0 not seeing SATA disks In-Reply-To: <20060809121827.22716.qmail@webmail9.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: ________________________________ From: Tech Guy [mailto:tek_guy at rediffmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 5:18 AM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: RHAS 4.0 not seeing SATA disks Hello, I have two SATA hard disk of 300GB installed on Dell 1600SC with a separate controller card. I am running Redhat Advanced server 4.0 but the issue is Linux is not able to detect those Hard disks. Btw, OS is on a separate SCSI disk. is there any special steps that is needed to configure the SATA hard disks? I appreciate any suggestions and help. Thanks TG ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A simple fix would be to go in the BIOS and tell SATA to emulate IDE. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Esquivelv at uhd.edu Sat Aug 12 16:17:46 2006 From: Esquivelv at uhd.edu (Esquivel, Vicente) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 11:17:46 -0500 Subject: Mail boxes and LDAP Message-ID: <9F92B51F2F581A4EAEC46C84759BE79D042EA43A@BALI.uhd.campus> Hello all, I have had sendmail running on my RHEL 3 server for sometime now but we are very soon going to start pointing all of our servers to our LDAP server to do authentication. All user account information will now be on the LDAP server and not on the local passwd and shadow files. I am wondering how I could continue to receive email on the local system for all the new users that will be only created in LDAP? I have tested the LDAP authentication and I have tested the IMAP login; it all works I can login cause PAM takes care of that but I am wondering if that would be the case for any incoming emails for users that are now hosted on the LDAP server? What will happen is that mail will be sent for our users after the account has been created on LDAP, but I need to have my sendmail server accept that email for this user and create a mailbox on the local system. I do NOT want their emails to get bounced. If anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks Vince -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Mon Aug 14 06:40:29 2006 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 00:40:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Severe Server Problems (FC4) Message-ID: <28961.198.60.114.90.1155537629.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> My RH8.0 email/web server crashed. I've been struggling over the weekend to get things back up and still some things are hammered. You can see them by doing mailq -qL and re-process them by doing for i in "ls Q*"; do sendmail -v -qI$i -d11; done from in /var/spool/mqueue, which has drwx --- --- permissions, which is correct. I'm suspect of sm-client, too, because it starts, then dies. I had to change the location of /var/run/sm-client.pid because it failed to start at all because of permissions. Forms on my server don't submit the emails to me they once did for usage tracking, etc. In maillog: 1. Aug 14 00:25:58 moroni sendmail[25780]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(apache): can not chdir(/var/spool/mqueue/): Permission denied: It appears these errors result in the next error, which is generated by the following CGI command: cat $FNM|tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' |mail -s "Access to $ACCESS" karlp 2. mail: invalid option -- r Usage: mail [-iInv] [-s subject] [-c cc-addr] [-b bcc-addr] to-addr ... [-- sendmail-options ...] mail [-iInNv] -f [name] mail [-iInNv] [-u user] 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1 I apologize for being a bit scattered. I've been relatively brain hampered for 3 days now... 13 hours of sleep in the past 50+ hours. -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP at ourldsfamily.com --- Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America right after 9/11/2001: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- The world is a dangerous place to live... not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein --- From bfebrian at gmx.net Mon Aug 14 09:29:31 2006 From: bfebrian at gmx.net (Budi Febrianto) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:29:31 +0700 Subject: Log Analyzer for sendmail into mySQL Message-ID: <9010732710.20060814162931@gmx.net> Hello Redhat, Any recommendations for log analyzer that can parse sendmail maillog file into mysql database? So from mysql I can create any report that i want, usually rejected emails. -- Best regards, Budi Febrianto mailto:bfebrian at gmx.net From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Aug 14 17:22:47 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:22:47 -0700 Subject: Mail boxes and LDAP In-Reply-To: <9F92B51F2F581A4EAEC46C84759BE79D042EA43A@BALI.uhd.campus> References: <9F92B51F2F581A4EAEC46C84759BE79D042EA43A@BALI.uhd.campus> Message-ID: <1155576167.10427.3.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Sat, 2006-08-12 at 11:17 -0500, Esquivel, Vicente wrote: > Hello all, > > I have had sendmail running on my RHEL 3 server for sometime now but > we are very soon going to start pointing all of our servers to our > LDAP server to do authentication. > > All user account information will now be on the LDAP server and not on > the local passwd and shadow files. I am wondering how I could > continue to receive email on the local system for all the new users > that will be only created in LDAP? > > I have tested the LDAP authentication and I have tested the IMAP > login; it all works I can login cause PAM takes care of that but I am > wondering if that would be the case for any incoming emails for users > that are now hosted on the LDAP server? > > What will happen is that mail will be sent for our users after the > account has been created on LDAP, but I need to have my sendmail > server accept that email for this user and create a mailbox on the > local system. I do NOT want their emails to get bounced. > > If anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it. As long as ALL machines authenticate from the LDAP server, you should have no problems. Provided you set up LDAP correctly, the only thing that changes is the location of their user info and their passwords (from local files to LDAP). Their local directories, mailboxes, etc. remain unchanged. You can think of LDAP as "NIS on steroids". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - What's small, yellow and very, VERY dangerous? The root canary! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Aug 14 17:45:23 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:45:23 -0700 Subject: Severe Server Problems (FC4) In-Reply-To: <28961.198.60.114.90.1155537629.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> References: <28961.198.60.114.90.1155537629.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <1155577524.10427.22.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 00:40 -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > My RH8.0 email/web server crashed. I've been struggling over the weekend to > get things back up and still some things are hammered. > You can see them by doing mailq -qL and re-process them by doing > for i in "ls Q*"; do sendmail -v -qI$i -d11; done > from in /var/spool/mqueue, which has drwx --- --- permissions, which is correct. > I'm suspect of sm-client, too, because it starts, then dies. I had to change > the location of /var/run/sm-client.pid because it failed to start at all > because of permissions. > > Forms on my server don't submit the emails to me they once did for usage > tracking, etc. In maillog: > 1. Aug 14 00:25:58 moroni sendmail[25780]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(apache): can not > chdir(/var/spool/mqueue/): Permission denied: You need to check the sendmail.cf and submit.cf files to see what user the programs are trying to run as. Generally, sendmail tries to run as root when it's doing things such as creating mail queue entries and as user 8:12 (mail:mail) when doing other things such as delivery and such. smclient usually runs as user "smmsp" at all times. As far as /var/run/sm-client.pid, the trick is that it is created by root's performing a "touch" of it first, then does a "chown smmsp:smmsp" of the file BEFORE sm-client is fired up. Check /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail for details. > It appears these errors result in the next error, which is generated by the > following CGI command: > cat $FNM|tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' |mail -s "Access to $ACCESS" karlp > > 2. mail: invalid option -- r > Usage: mail [-iInv] [-s subject] [-c cc-addr] [-b bcc-addr] to-addr ... > [-- sendmail-options ...] > mail [-iInNv] -f [name] > mail [-iInNv] [-u user] > 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1 That's rather odd. Your command line doesn't specify a "-r" anywhere. This leads one to believe that one of the programs (possibly "tr") got whapped and is spewing out garbage. You really should try redirecting the output of it to a file to test it: cat $FNM|tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' >/tmp/testoutput and you should look at the expansion of "$ACCESS" to see if it has an embedded quote or something in it. > I apologize for being a bit scattered. I've been relatively brain hampered for > 3 days now... 13 hours of sleep in the past 50+ hours. Lightweight! I've been running on 3 hours of sleep or less per night for 3 weeks. If you're looking for sympathy, you've come to the WRONG place! :-p ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - On a scale of 1 to 10 I'd say... oh, somewhere in there. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Aug 14 17:53:45 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:53:45 -0700 Subject: Log Analyzer for sendmail into mySQL In-Reply-To: <9010732710.20060814162931@gmx.net> References: <9010732710.20060814162931@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1155578025.10427.29.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 16:29 +0700, Budi Febrianto wrote: > Hello Redhat, > > Any recommendations for log analyzer that can parse sendmail > maillog file into mysql database? > So from mysql I can create any report that i want, usually > rejected emails. One of the more flexible log analyzers is sawmill (http://www.sawmill.net/formats/UNIX_Sendmail.html). You might want to check it out. As far as stuffing the logs into mysql, write a perl or php script that accepts lines from a named pipe (FIFO) and stuffs it into your database, then modify /etc/syslog.conf to send the data to the FIFO instead of /var/log/mail.log: mail.* |/path/to/your/FIFO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Cuteness can be overcome through sufficient bastardry - - --Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlp at lehi.ourldsfamily.com Mon Aug 14 20:21:51 2006 From: karlp at lehi.ourldsfamily.com (Karl Pearson) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:21:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Severe Server Problems (FC4) In-Reply-To: <1155577524.10427.22.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> References: <28961.198.60.114.90.1155537629.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <1155577524.10427.22.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Rick Stevens wrote: > On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 00:40 -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >> My RH8.0 email/web server crashed. I've been struggling over the weekend >> to get things back up and still some things are hammered. You can see >> them by doing mailq -qL and re-process them by doing for i in "ls Q*"; do >> sendmail -v -qI$i -d11; done from in /var/spool/mqueue, which has drwx >> --- --- permissions, which is correct. I'm suspect of sm-client, too, >> because it starts, then dies. I had to change the location of >> /var/run/sm-client.pid because it failed to start at all because of >> permissions. >> >> Forms on my server don't submit the emails to me they once did for usage >> tracking, etc. In maillog: >> 1. Aug 14 00:25:58 moroni sendmail[25780]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(apache): >> can not chdir(/var/spool/mqueue/): Permission denied: > > You need to check the sendmail.cf and submit.cf files to see what user the > programs are trying to run as. Generally, sendmail tries to run as root > when it's doing things such as creating mail queue entries and as user > 8:12 (mail:mail) when doing other things such as delivery and such. > smclient usually runs as user "smmsp" at all times. > > As far as /var/run/sm-client.pid, the trick is that it is created by > root's performing a "touch" of it first, then does a "chown smmsp:smmsp" > of the file BEFORE sm-client is fired up. Check /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail > for details. How do I verify that they run as those users? I see in sendmail.mc 8:12, which looks right. Also, sm-client.pid is chmoded to smmsp:smmsp and it still doesn't work. Doing a service sendmail reload succeeds for sendmail and fails for sm-client. Another interesting thing is that local email fails, but if I use pine from my PC, it works. > >> It appears these errors result in the next error, which is generated by >> the following CGI command: cat $FNM|tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' |mail -s "Access to >> $ACCESS" karlp >> >> 2. mail: invalid option -- r >> Usage: mail [-iInv] [-s subject] [-c cc-addr] [-b bcc-addr] to-addr ... >> [-- sendmail-options ...] >> mail [-iInNv] -f [name] >> mail [-iInNv] [-u user] >> 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1 > > That's rather odd. Your command line doesn't specify a "-r" anywhere. > This leads one to believe that one of the programs (possibly "tr") got > whapped and is spewing out garbage. You really should try redirecting the > output of it to a file to test it: > > cat $FNM|tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' >/tmp/testoutput > > and you should look at the expansion of "$ACCESS" to see if it has an > embedded quote or something in it. I see nothing in it at all and the email still doesn't come... Same error, too. Interesting that the owner is apache:smmsp in mqueue and both files are there, but one starts with Q rather than q... as before. I was going to `watch` a cat of the file to see if a visit from another host messes up. > > >> I apologize for being a bit scattered. I've been relatively brain >> hampered for 3 days now... 13 hours of sleep in the past 50+ hours. > > Lightweight! I've been running on 3 hours of sleep or less per night for > 3 weeks. If you're looking for sympathy, you've come to the WRONG place! > :-p I don't use caffeine. Any sympathy now... (as in 'can you hear me [whine] now?) Karl PS. I'd love to give you (Rick) ssh access and have you poke around and see how bad an upgrade from RH8.0 to FC4 can go... Just picture named, for example, without a chroot option working getting kludged back to the old way. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - On a scale of 1 to 10 I'd say... oh, somewhere in there. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP at ourldsfamily.com --- Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- A right is not what someone gives you; it's what no one can take from you. -Ramsey Clark --- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Aug 15 01:12:53 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:12:53 -0700 Subject: Severe Server Problems (FC4) In-Reply-To: References: <28961.198.60.114.90.1155537629.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <1155577524.10427.22.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> Message-ID: <1155604373.10427.50.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 14:21 -0600, Karl Pearson wrote: > On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 00:40 -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > >> My RH8.0 email/web server crashed. I've been struggling over the weekend > >> to get things back up and still some things are hammered. You can see > >> them by doing mailq -qL and re-process them by doing for i in "ls Q*"; do > >> sendmail -v -qI$i -d11; done from in /var/spool/mqueue, which has drwx > >> --- --- permissions, which is correct. I'm suspect of sm-client, too, > >> because it starts, then dies. I had to change the location of > >> /var/run/sm-client.pid because it failed to start at all because of > >> permissions. > >> > >> Forms on my server don't submit the emails to me they once did for usage > >> tracking, etc. In maillog: > >> 1. Aug 14 00:25:58 moroni sendmail[25780]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(apache): > >> can not chdir(/var/spool/mqueue/): Permission denied: > > > > You need to check the sendmail.cf and submit.cf files to see what user the > > programs are trying to run as. Generally, sendmail tries to run as root > > when it's doing things such as creating mail queue entries and as user > > 8:12 (mail:mail) when doing other things such as delivery and such. > > smclient usually runs as user "smmsp" at all times. > > > > As far as /var/run/sm-client.pid, the trick is that it is created by > > root's performing a "touch" of it first, then does a "chown smmsp:smmsp" > > of the file BEFORE sm-client is fired up. Check /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail > > for details. > > How do I verify that they run as those users? I see in sendmail.mc 8:12, > which looks right. Yes 8:12 is right (check /etc/passwd for user mail). > Also, sm-client.pid is chmoded to smmsp:smmsp and it > still doesn't work. Doing a service sendmail reload succeeds for sendmail > and fails for sm-client. Uh, hmmm. Well, submit.cf should have "O RunAsUser=smmsp" in it, which should also make it run as user smmsp. The error message you get when you reload sendmail refers to an inability to open /var/run/sm-client.pid? That's just plain odd. For giggles, can you "service sendmail stop", then delete /var/run/sm-client.pid, then "service sendmail start" and see what that does? > > Another interesting thing is that local email fails, but if I use pine from > my PC, it works. > > > > >> It appears these errors result in the next error, which is generated by > >> the following CGI command: cat $FNM|tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' |mail -s "Access to > >> $ACCESS" karlp > >> > >> 2. mail: invalid option -- r > >> Usage: mail [-iInv] [-s subject] [-c cc-addr] [-b bcc-addr] to-addr ... > >> [-- sendmail-options ...] > >> mail [-iInNv] -f [name] > >> mail [-iInNv] [-u user] > >> 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1 > > > > That's rather odd. Your command line doesn't specify a "-r" anywhere. > > This leads one to believe that one of the programs (possibly "tr") got > > whapped and is spewing out garbage. You really should try redirecting the > > output of it to a file to test it: > > > > cat $FNM|tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' >/tmp/testoutput > > > > and you should look at the expansion of "$ACCESS" to see if it has an > > embedded quote or something in it. > > I see nothing in it at all and the email still doesn't come... Same error, > too. Interesting that the owner is apache:smmsp in mqueue and both files are > there, but one starts with Q rather than q... as before. I was going to > `watch` a cat of the file to see if a visit from another host messes up. Queue files that start with a "Q" indicate that the delivery attempts have completely failed (all retries exhausted). That usually indicates a bogus "To" address, the destination server isn't listening to SMTP, or it's rejecting the mail repeatedly. Check the content of the Q file and its associated "d" file for clues. > > > > > >> I apologize for being a bit scattered. I've been relatively brain > >> hampered for 3 days now... 13 hours of sleep in the past 50+ hours. > > > > Lightweight! I've been running on 3 hours of sleep or less per night for > > 3 weeks. If you're looking for sympathy, you've come to the WRONG place! > > :-p > > I don't use caffeine. Any sympathy now... (as in 'can you hear me [whine] > now?) Heheheheheh! And in answer to your missive...no, I still don't feel your pain. As a matter of fact, I'm rather numb all over. I don't know if I feel my own toes at this point. > PS. I'd love to give you (Rick) ssh access and have you poke around and see > how bad an upgrade from RH8.0 to FC4 can go... Just picture named, for > example, without a chroot option working getting kludged back to the old > way. Oh, my GAWD! 8.0 to FC4? Yikes! Just 8.0 alone is frightening. That was possibly one of the worst RH releases in known times! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Never eat anything larger than your head - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Tue Aug 15 01:24:51 2006 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:24:51 +0000 Subject: Modem Help Message-ID: <081520060124.26570.44E1226300015450000067CA220075033002019B9C0A04099A03D20B0E9D0D@comcast.net> Help, I'm running RH9 and am having a real problem with my cable modem. It's a RCA DCM226. Anyway, the modem resets itself every few days - and when it does it just goes through the power up cycle gets established then resets itself, over and over again. Soon it will stablize and work - at least that was in the past. Now for some reason RedHat will not talk to the modem any longer - i.e. I can not access the internet. My other computers don't seem to be having a problem once the modem is running OK, including an FC4 machine and a XP machine. Any ideas out there for fixing either problem. Thanks, Brad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Tue Aug 15 01:29:15 2006 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:29:15 +0000 Subject: SendMail Help Message-ID: <081520060129.6354.44E1236B000A33C7000018D2221357533302019B9C0A04099A03D20B0E9D0D@comcast.net> Hello, now to a different problem, I've shut down internet access to my house except during specific times of the day to cut down on the use by my teenagers. I'm doing this with my Linksys router. One thing I do have set up is a 24/7 opening for my FC9 box to run Fetchmail so my online mail boxes done get too full. This seems to be working fine. BUT I also would like to open up SendMail, from all machines, so I can send email 24/7 also. Any ideas on this? Brad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Tue Aug 15 02:41:57 2006 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (Karl Pearson) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 20:41:57 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Severe Server Problems (FC4) In-Reply-To: <1155604373.10427.50.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> References: <28961.198.60.114.90.1155537629.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <1155577524.10427.22.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> <1155604373.10427.50.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Rick Stevens wrote: > On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 14:21 -0600, Karl Pearson wrote: >> On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Rick Stevens wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 00:40 -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>>> My RH8.0 email/web server crashed. I've been struggling over the weekend >>>> to get things back up and still some things are hammered. You can see >>>> them by doing mailq -qL and re-process them by doing for i in "ls Q*"; do >>>> sendmail -v -qI$i -d11; done from in /var/spool/mqueue, which has drwx >>>> --- --- permissions, which is correct. I'm suspect of sm-client, too, >>>> because it starts, then dies. I had to change the location of >>>> /var/run/sm-client.pid because it failed to start at all because of >>>> permissions. >>>> >>>> Forms on my server don't submit the emails to me they once did for usage >>>> tracking, etc. In maillog: >>>> 1. Aug 14 00:25:58 moroni sendmail[25780]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(apache): >>>> can not chdir(/var/spool/mqueue/): Permission denied: >>> >>> You need to check the sendmail.cf and submit.cf files to see what user the >>> programs are trying to run as. Generally, sendmail tries to run as root >>> when it's doing things such as creating mail queue entries and as user >>> 8:12 (mail:mail) when doing other things such as delivery and such. >>> smclient usually runs as user "smmsp" at all times. >>> >>> As far as /var/run/sm-client.pid, the trick is that it is created by >>> root's performing a "touch" of it first, then does a "chown smmsp:smmsp" >>> of the file BEFORE sm-client is fired up. Check /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail >>> for details. >> >> How do I verify that they run as those users? I see in sendmail.mc 8:12, >> which looks right. > > Yes 8:12 is right (check /etc/passwd for user mail). I did that. It's 8:12 > >> Also, sm-client.pid is chmoded to smmsp:smmsp and it >> still doesn't work. Doing a service sendmail reload succeeds for sendmail >> and fails for sm-client. > > Uh, hmmm. Well, submit.cf should have "O RunAsUser=smmsp" in it, which > should also make it run as user smmsp. The error message you get when > you reload sendmail refers to an inability to open > /var/run/sm-client.pid? That's just plain odd. For giggles, can you > "service sendmail stop", then delete /var/run/sm-client.pid, then > "service sendmail start" and see what that does? Tried that and solved it by being stupid... kind of. I added the following line to /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail after the `touch /var/run/sm-client.pid` line: chmod 666 /var/run/sm-client.pid It no longer complains about THAT issue... > >> >> Another interesting thing is that local email fails, but if I use pine from >> my PC, it works. >> >>> >>>> It appears these errors result in the next error, which is generated by >>>> the following CGI command: cat $FNM|tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' |mail -s "Access to >>>> $ACCESS" karlp >>>> >>>> 2. mail: invalid option -- r >>>> Usage: mail [-iInv] [-s subject] [-c cc-addr] [-b bcc-addr] to-addr ... >>>> [-- sendmail-options ...] >>>> mail [-iInNv] -f [name] >>>> mail [-iInNv] [-u user] >>>> 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1 >>> >>> That's rather odd. Your command line doesn't specify a "-r" anywhere. >>> This leads one to believe that one of the programs (possibly "tr") got >>> whapped and is spewing out garbage. You really should try redirecting the >>> output of it to a file to test it: >>> >>> cat $FNM|tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' >/tmp/testoutput >>> >>> and you should look at the expansion of "$ACCESS" to see if it has an >>> embedded quote or something in it. >> >> I see nothing in it at all and the email still doesn't come... Same error, >> too. Interesting that the owner is apache:smmsp in mqueue and both files are >> there, but one starts with Q rather than q... as before. I was going to >> `watch` a cat of the file to see if a visit from another host messes up. > > Queue files that start with a "Q" indicate that the delivery attempts > have completely failed (all retries exhausted). That usually indicates > a bogus "To" address, the destination server isn't listening to SMTP, > or it's rejecting the mail repeatedly. Check the content of the Q file > and its associated "d" file for clues. I now see an error of: mydomain.com: host not recognized. I suspect I've messed up sendmail.mc with MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(...)dnl settings. I put sub hosts that send email, IE, My pc and the server's hostname. I suspect I should only put localhost and localhost.localdomain in there, right? > >>> >>> >>>> I apologize for being a bit scattered. I've been relatively brain >>>> hampered for 3 days now... 13 hours of sleep in the past 50+ hours. >>> >>> Lightweight! I've been running on 3 hours of sleep or less per night for >>> 3 weeks. If you're looking for sympathy, you've come to the WRONG place! >>> :-p >> >> I don't use caffeine. Any sympathy now... (as in 'can you hear me [whine] >> now?) > > Heheheheheh! And in answer to your missive...no, I still don't feel > your pain. As a matter of fact, I'm rather numb all over. I don't know > if I feel my own toes at this point. Better check for some. I can still feel mine. > >> PS. I'd love to give you (Rick) ssh access and have you poke around and see >> how bad an upgrade from RH8.0 to FC4 can go... Just picture named, for >> example, without a chroot option working getting kludged back to the old >> way. > > Oh, my GAWD! 8.0 to FC4? Yikes! Just 8.0 alone is frightening. That > was possibly one of the worst RH releases in known times! I had it running solid on 2 boxes for 3 years. karl > From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Tue Aug 15 02:43:50 2006 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (Karl Pearson) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 20:43:50 -0600 (MDT) Subject: SendMail Help In-Reply-To: <081520060129.6354.44E1236B000A33C7000018D2221357533302019B9C0A04099A03D20B0E9D0D@comcast.net> References: <081520060129.6354.44E1236B000A33C7000018D2221357533302019B9C0A04099A03D20B0E9D0D@comcast.net> Message-ID: I close all outbound, but not inbound and the intranet is up all the time. I do that by using 2 nics in my server and then use iptables to restrict outbound on a schedule. If you would like to have help with this, let me know, and after I get my own server back to snuff. -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP at ourldsfamily.com --- Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- A right is not what someone gives you; it's what no one can take from you. -Ramsey Clark --- From micros50 at computer.net Tue Aug 15 08:45:43 2006 From: micros50 at computer.net (mylar) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 04:45:43 -0400 Subject: SendMail Help In-Reply-To: <081520060129.6354.44E1236B000A33C7000018D2221357533302019B9C0A04099A03D20B0E9D0D@comcast.net> References: <081520060129.6354.44E1236B000A33C7000018D2221357533302019B9C0A04099A03D20B0E9D0D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1155631543.9673.73.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 21:29, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > Hello, now to a different problem, > > I've shut down internet access to my house except during specific > times of the day to cut down on the use by my teenagers. I'm doing > this with my Linksys router. One thing I do have set up is a 24/7 > opening for my FC9 box to run Fetchmail so my online mail boxes done > get too full. This seems to be working fine. > > BUT I also would like to open up SendMail, from all machines, so I can > send email 24/7 also. > > Any ideas on this? > > Brad I don't know how your network is set up but can't you block access to all but port 25 during those hours ? From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Aug 15 22:41:24 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:41:24 -0700 Subject: Modem Help In-Reply-To: <081520060124.26570.44E1226300015450000067CA220075033002019B9C0A04099A03D20B0E9D0D@comcast.net> References: <081520060124.26570.44E1226300015450000067CA220075033002019B9C0A04099A03D20B0E9D0D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1155681684.10427.61.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 01:24 +0000, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > Help, > > I'm running RH9 and am having a real problem with my cable modem. > It's a RCA DCM226. Anyway, the modem resets itself every few days - > and when it does it just goes through the power up cycle gets > established then resets itself, over and over again. Soon it will > stablize and work - at least that was in the past. > > Now for some reason RedHat will not talk to the modem any longer - > i.e. I can not access the internet. My other computers don't seem to > be having a problem once the modem is running OK, including an FC4 > machine and a XP machine. > > Any ideas out there for fixing either problem. Is the modem feeding a router that the failing machine is plugged into? E.g.: wall<------->modem<------>router<----->bad_machine If so, it could be an ARP issue. You can try to flush the ARP tables manually or reboot the machine (much easier). Also verify that you can ping the router or modem. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - First Law of Work: - - If you can't get it done in the first 24 hours, work nights. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Tue Aug 15 23:50:06 2006 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:50:06 -0600 (MDT) Subject: SendMail Help In-Reply-To: <1155631543.9673.73.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> References: <081520060129.6354.44E1236B000A33C7000018D2221357533302019B9C0A04099A03D20B0E9D0D@comcast.net> <1155631543.9673.73.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, mylar wrote: > On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 21:29, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > Hello, now to a different problem, > > > > I've shut down internet access to my house except during specific > > times of the day to cut down on the use by my teenagers. I'm doing > > this with my Linksys router. One thing I do have set up is a 24/7 > > opening for my FC9 box to run Fetchmail so my online mail boxes done > > get too full. This seems to be working fine. > > > > BUT I also would like to open up SendMail, from all machines, so I can > > send email 24/7 also. > > > > Any ideas on this? > > > > Brad > > I don't know how your network is set up but can't you block access to > all but port 25 during those hours ? > I have the ability to block ports and I could set that up but it appears to block all ports when the web is locked out so I need to UNBLOCK ports. BUT I can give it a shot. I know SMTP is port 25 but what ranges do I want to block and still have usability within my home network? i.e. do I block 0 to 24 and then 26 to ?? or will that shut too much down? BTW I only have TWO ranges I can block. Thanks Brad From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Tue Aug 15 23:50:22 2006 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:50:22 -0600 (MDT) Subject: SendMail Help In-Reply-To: References: <081520060129.6354.44E1236B000A33C7000018D2221357533302019B9C0A04099A03D20B0E9D0D@comcast.net> Message-ID: Karl, Nice to hear from you. The problem I think I have with your solution is I haven't figured out how to send email through my mail server - all mail has to go direct from the sending machine. My setup. Cable line to Modem to Linksys switch (Cable and Wireless) then to various machines around the house including a second switch in the basement to handle additional computers. One computer is a Linux (FC4) machine that is a file server to all machines on the network and also runs Fetchmail. This machine has been given access to the internet 24/7. All other machines only get internet access from 4:30 pm to 9:30 pm when my wife or I am usually home. The way it works is fine. The FC4 machine gets email about every 30 minutes from all the mail websites. My problem is I couldn't figure out how to get sendmail to round through my home network to the FC4 machine then out to the web so I need to somehow get the sendmail port (25 I believe) open so I can send emails out anytime. Thanks, Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Karl Pearson wrote: > I close all outbound, but not inbound and the intranet is up all the time. I > do that by using 2 nics in my server and then use iptables to restrict > outbound on a schedule. > > If you would like to have help with this, let me know, and after I get my own > server back to snuff. > > -- > karl > _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ > _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) > _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... > _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP at ourldsfamily.com > --- > Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst > http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com > --- > My Thoughts on Terrorism In America: > http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml > --- > A right is not what someone gives you; it's what no one can take from you. > -Ramsey Clark > --- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Aug 16 00:46:28 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:46:28 -0700 Subject: SendMail Help In-Reply-To: References: <081520060129.6354.44E1236B000A33C7000018D2221357533302019B9C0A04099A03D20B0E9D0D@comcast.net> <1155631543.9673.73.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> Message-ID: <1155689188.10427.81.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 17:50 -0600, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, mylar wrote: > > > On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 21:29, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > > Hello, now to a different problem, > > > > > > I've shut down internet access to my house except during specific > > > times of the day to cut down on the use by my teenagers. I'm doing > > > this with my Linksys router. One thing I do have set up is a 24/7 > > > opening for my FC9 box to run Fetchmail so my online mail boxes done > > > get too full. This seems to be working fine. > > > > > > BUT I also would like to open up SendMail, from all machines, so I can > > > send email 24/7 also. > > > > > > Any ideas on this? > > > > > > Brad > > > > I don't know how your network is set up but can't you block access to > > all but port 25 during those hours ? > > > I have the ability to block ports and I could set that up but it > appears to block all ports when the web is locked out so I need > to UNBLOCK ports. > > BUT I can give it a shot. I know SMTP is port 25 but what ranges > do I want to block and still have usability within my home > network? i.e. do I block 0 to 24 and then 26 to ?? or will that > shut too much down? BTW I only have TWO ranges I can block. Let's see if we can sort this out. First off, you have to decide if you want all of your machines to be able to send mail directly or if you want to designate a "mail hub" which receives mail from all of your internal machines and sends it out on behalf of them. For security reasons, I recommend a mail hub (only it is exposed to the internet, centralizes virus and spam filtering, etc.). So, on all of the machines EXCEPT the mail hub, make sure you have: define(`SMART_HOST', `name-of-mail-hub-machine')dnl in the sendmail.mc file. You also should decide if you want the hub to receive mail on behalf of all your machines. If so, also define the MASQUERADE_AS macro: define(`MASQUERADE_AS', `host.domain.tld')dnl Now, as to firewalls, only the mail hub needs to talk to the internet over port 25. The rest of the machines in your network will use port 25 to talk to the mail hub. So, the firewall rules on the router should permit the mail hub port 25 access to the internet and should block all others. Do NOT block port 25 on any of the internal machines (either through iptables or Windows firewalls). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - LOOK OUT!!! BEHIND YOU!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Wed Aug 16 02:42:54 2006 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:42:54 -0600 (MDT) Subject: SendMail Help In-Reply-To: <1155689188.10427.81.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> References: <081520060129.6354.44E1236B000A33C7000018D2221357533302019B9C0A04099A03D20B0E9D0D@comcast.net> <1155631543.9673.73.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> <1155689188.10427.81.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> Message-ID: > want to designate a "mail hub" which receives mail from all of your > internal machines and sends it out on behalf of them. > > For security reasons, I recommend a mail hub (only it is exposed to the > internet, centralizes virus and spam filtering, etc.). So, on all > of the machines EXCEPT the mail hub, make sure you have: > > define(`SMART_HOST', `name-of-mail-hub-machine')dnl > > in the sendmail.mc file. You also should decide if you want the hub > to receive mail on behalf of all your machines. If so, also define > the MASQUERADE_AS macro: > > define(`MASQUERADE_AS', `host.domain.tld')dnl > > Now, as to firewalls, only the mail hub needs to talk to the internet > over port 25. The rest of the machines in your network will use port > 25 to talk to the mail hub. So, the firewall rules on the router should > permit the mail hub port 25 access to the internet and should block all > others. Do NOT block port 25 on any of the internal machines (either > through iptables or Windows firewalls). > OK, sounds good to me BUT I need some translations. Lets make it simple - two machines named LHOST and LCLIENT. LHOST is my mail server and LCLIENT is the machine I'm sitting at. First, what file holds these names and on what physical machine (both for XP and Linux) Second I'm taking it that "name-of-mail-hub-machine" would be LHOST for the masquerade command - I may be confused (like normal) but right now my LHOST machine is receiving all of my mail -if your talking about from the Internet. BUT if your talking about receiving it from the other machines then I need this command but what does "host.domaine.tld" translate into? I'm probably in over my head but I'm use to that. Thanks, Brad From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Wed Aug 16 03:31:13 2006 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:31:13 -0600 (MDT) Subject: SendMail Help In-Reply-To: References: <081520060129.6354.44E1236B000A33C7000018D2221357533302019B9C0A04099A03D20B0E9D0D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <25093.198.60.114.90.1155699073.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> On Tue, August 15, 2006 5:50 pm, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > Karl, > > Nice to hear from you. > > The problem I think I have with your solution is I haven't > figured out how to send email through my mail server - all mail > has to go direct from the sending machine. I assume you mean the mail server on your network PCs is the mail server of your ISP, is that right? > > My setup. Cable line to Modem to Linksys switch (Cable and > Wireless) then to various machines around the house including a > second switch in the basement to handle additional computers. > One computer is a Linux (FC4) machine that is a file server to > all machines on the network and also runs Fetchmail. This > machine has been given access to the internet 24/7. All other > machines only get internet access from 4:30 pm to 9:30 pm when my > wife or I am usually home. My way would remove the Linksys switch and put a dual-homed Linux server in it's place. That server would be your gateway, with the cable modem being the primary firewall and the Linux server being the secondary firewall using iptables. Since I don't know iptables well enough to give you rules for specific switches, I can only point you to the O'Reilly Pocket Reference: Linux iptables, Firewalls, nat and accounting, by Gregor N. Purdy. I'm just getting into it. > > The way it works is fine. The FC4 machine gets email about every > 30 minutes from all the mail websites. I actually do that on my server, too, but the email is sent to my own server/domain. If you have the right ISP, you could get a static IP address and DNS your server and get it to server your in-house email. > > My problem is I couldn't figure out how to get sendmail to round > through my home network to the FC4 machine then out to the web so > I need to somehow get the sendmail port (25 I believe) open so I > can send emails out anytime. To get it to work, you would have to (CMIIW, someone) follow my previous suggestions... Karl > > Thanks, > > Brad Mugleston, KI0OT > > There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that > understand binary and those that don't. > > On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Karl Pearson wrote: > >> I close all outbound, but not inbound and the intranet is up all the time. I >> do that by using 2 nics in my server and then use iptables to restrict >> outbound on a schedule. >> >> If you would like to have help with this, let me know, and after I get my >> own >> server back to snuff. >> >> -- >> karl >> _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o >> _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ >> _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) >> _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... >> _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP at ourldsfamily.com >> --- >> Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst >> http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com >> --- >> My Thoughts on Terrorism In America: >> http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml >> --- >> A right is not what someone gives you; it's what no one can take from you. >> -Ramsey Clark >> --- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Redhat-install-list mailing list >> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >> Subject: unsubscribe >> > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP at ourldsfamily.com --- Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America right after 9/11/2001: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- The world is a dangerous place to live... not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein --- From cinetron at passport.ca Wed Aug 16 14:03:43 2006 From: cinetron at passport.ca (jim ruxton) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:03:43 -0400 Subject: Problem with Suspend in FC5 Message-ID: <1155737023.3735.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have a problem with my laptop. If I close the lid with AC power removed the machine goes into some kind of suspension mode and I can't pull it out without doing a hard power down. Any ideas how to fix this? I'm using FC5 on an HP ZD7000 laptop. Thanks! Jim From harold at hallikainen.com Wed Aug 16 14:45:48 2006 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Problem with Suspend in FC5 In-Reply-To: <1155737023.3735.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1155737023.3735.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <27994.207.177.227.29.1155739548.squirrel@sujan.hallikainen.org> > I have a problem with my laptop. If I close the lid with AC power > removed the machine goes into some kind of suspension mode and I can't > pull it out without doing a hard power down. Any ideas how to fix this? > I'm using FC5 on an HP ZD7000 laptop. Thanks! > Jim I have a similar problem with mh HP zv something or another on FC5. FC4 seemed to work ok. I think what's happening on mine is the display chip is being told to shut down the display, but when it comes back up, it doesn't initialize it correctly. It puts big blocks of color on the screen. Otherwise, it's working well. I did have to use ndiswrapper to get the Broadcom wifi working. I could not get the included wifi driver working. With FC4 I had to get an ATI driver for the screen, but FC5 seems to work well with the included code (maybe that's the problem?). Harold -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com - Advertising opportunities available! From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Wed Aug 16 18:49:25 2006 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:49:25 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Severe Server Problems (FC4) - Solutions In-Reply-To: <1155604373.10427.50.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> References: <28961.198.60.114.90.1155537629.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <1155577524.10427.22.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> <1155604373.10427.50.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> Message-ID: <37323.207.173.117.242.1155754165.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> [ I replied to this email already but it didn't work because of my server ] On Mon, August 14, 2006 7:12 pm, Rick Stevens wrote: > On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 14:21 -0600, Karl Pearson wrote: >> On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Rick Stevens wrote: >> >> > On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 00:40 -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >> >> My RH8.0 email/web server crashed. I've been struggling over the weekend >> >> to get things back up and still some things are hammered. You can see >> >> them by doing mailq -qL and re-process them by doing for i in "ls Q*"; do >> >> sendmail -v -qI$i -d11; done from in /var/spool/mqueue, which has drwx >> >> --- --- permissions, which is correct. I'm suspect of sm-client, too, >> >> because it starts, then dies. I had to change the location of >> >> /var/run/sm-client.pid because it failed to start at all because of >> >> permissions. >> >> >> >> Forms on my server don't submit the emails to me they once did for usage >> >> tracking, etc. In maillog: >> >> 1. Aug 14 00:25:58 moroni sendmail[25780]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(apache): >> >> can not chdir(/var/spool/mqueue/): Permission denied: >> > >> > You need to check the sendmail.cf and submit.cf files to see what user the >> > programs are trying to run as. Generally, sendmail tries to run as root >> > when it's doing things such as creating mail queue entries and as user >> > 8:12 (mail:mail) when doing other things such as delivery and such. >> > smclient usually runs as user "smmsp" at all times. >> > >> > As far as /var/run/sm-client.pid, the trick is that it is created by >> > root's performing a "touch" of it first, then does a "chown smmsp:smmsp" >> > of the file BEFORE sm-client is fired up. Check /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail >> > for details. >> >> How do I verify that they run as those users? I see in sendmail.mc 8:12, >> which looks right. > > Yes 8:12 is right (check /etc/passwd for user mail). > >> Also, sm-client.pid is chmoded to smmsp:smmsp and it >> still doesn't work. Doing a service sendmail reload succeeds for sendmail >> and fails for sm-client. > > Uh, hmmm. Well, submit.cf should have "O RunAsUser=smmsp" in it, which > should also make it run as user smmsp. The error message you get when > you reload sendmail refers to an inability to open > /var/run/sm-client.pid? That's just plain odd. For giggles, can you > "service sendmail stop", then delete /var/run/sm-client.pid, then > "service sendmail start" and see what that does? Yes, that worked as advertised. Okay, my solution to all the submit.cf/mc issues was the line in submit.mc: FEATURE(`msp', `[127.0.0.1]')dnl My brain-damaged part assumed it was the same as a similar line in sendmail.mc that MUST be commented out for email to work outside the network. Well, this line is the opposite. It MUST be there for email to work INSIDE the network. Removing my dnl and doing make -C /etc/mail;service sendmail restart started everything working. Well almost... > >> >> Another interesting thing is that local email fails, but if I use pine from >> my PC, it works. >> >> > >> >> It appears these errors result in the next error, which is generated by >> >> the following CGI command: cat $FNM|tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' |mail -s "Access to >> >> $ACCESS" karlp >> >> >> >> 2. mail: invalid option -- r >> >> Usage: mail [-iInv] [-s subject] [-c cc-addr] [-b bcc-addr] to-addr ... >> >> [-- sendmail-options ...] >> >> mail [-iInNv] -f [name] >> >> mail [-iInNv] [-u user] >> >> 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1 >> > >> > That's rather odd. Your command line doesn't specify a "-r" anywhere. >> > This leads one to believe that one of the programs (possibly "tr") got >> > whapped and is spewing out garbage. You really should try redirecting the >> > output of it to a file to test it: >> > >> > cat $FNM|tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' >/tmp/testoutput >> > >> > and you should look at the expansion of "$ACCESS" to see if it has an >> > embedded quote or something in it. >> >> I see nothing in it at all and the email still doesn't come... Same error, >> too. Interesting that the owner is apache:smmsp in mqueue and both files are >> there, but one starts with Q rather than q... as before. I was going to >> `watch` a cat of the file to see if a visit from another host messes up. > > Queue files that start with a "Q" indicate that the delivery attempts > have completely failed (all retries exhausted). That usually indicates > a bogus "To" address, the destination server isn't listening to SMTP, > or it's rejecting the mail repeatedly. Check the content of the Q file > and its associated "d" file for clues. These files quit happening once I got submit.mc straightened out (see above). I used the following line of code to get them up again (from within /var/spool/mqueue): for i in "ls k*"; do sendmail -v -qI$i -d11; done > >> > >> > >> >> I apologize for being a bit scattered. I've been relatively brain >> >> hampered for 3 days now... 13 hours of sleep in the past 50+ hours. >> > >> > Lightweight! I've been running on 3 hours of sleep or less per night for >> > 3 weeks. If you're looking for sympathy, you've come to the WRONG place! >> > :-p >> >> I don't use caffeine. Any sympathy now... (as in 'can you hear me [whine] >> now?) > > Heheheheheh! And in answer to your missive...no, I still don't feel > your pain. As a matter of fact, I'm rather numb all over. I don't know > if I feel my own toes at this point. You better check to see if your toes are still there... You've been quiet for a day or so. Should someone check your heartrate just to be sure? > >> PS. I'd love to give you (Rick) ssh access and have you poke around and see >> how bad an upgrade from RH8.0 to FC4 can go... Just picture named, for >> example, without a chroot option working getting kludged back to the old >> way. > > Oh, my GAWD! 8.0 to FC4? Yikes! Just 8.0 alone is frightening. That > was possibly one of the worst RH releases in known times! Yes, 8.0 to FC4. It's come up smoothly, other than one final annoyance, which I'll post separately. Karl > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Never eat anything larger than your head - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP at ourldsfamily.com --- Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America right after 9/11/2001: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- The world is a dangerous place to live... not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein --- From celawrence at lbl.gov Wed Aug 16 18:54:09 2006 From: celawrence at lbl.gov (chuck lawrence) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:54:09 -0700 Subject: multiple usb drives Message-ID: <44E369D1.8030703@lbl.gov> greetings, I've got an interesting problem. I've got 3 external usb drives, all running thru a usb 2.0 pci card. the first two (sda and sdb) are roughly the same vintage. the most recent addition, a year later, is a larger, faster disk. when I boot with them all on, the new disk wants to be sda, rather than sdc. I surmise this may be because it's a faster disk, and registers first. I was mounting volumes from the older disks in /etc/rc.local, but now must mount manually, powering up the new disk after booting. claerly this is less than ideal. is this an inherent problem with multiple external usb drives? I could reorder the mount sequence, but it makes me a bit wary that I can't control which disk is which. should I not try to mount them at boot time? adv(thanks)ance -- * ------------------- * ----------------------------* | charles e. lawrence | lawrence berkeley nat'l lab | | celawrence at lbl.gov | #1 cyclotron rd ms 50a6134 | | (510) 486-4682 | berkeley ca 94720 | * ------------------- * ----------------------------* "If the human body did patch management the way (companies do), we'd all be dead." www-eng.lbl.gov/~lawrence From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Aug 16 18:55:11 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:55:11 -0700 Subject: SendMail Help In-Reply-To: References: <081520060129.6354.44E1236B000A33C7000018D2221357533302019B9C0A04099A03D20B0E9D0D@comcast.net> <1155631543.9673.73.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> <1155689188.10427.81.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> Message-ID: <1155754511.24042.31.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 20:42 -0600, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > want to designate a "mail hub" which receives mail from all of your > > internal machines and sends it out on behalf of them. > > > > For security reasons, I recommend a mail hub (only it is exposed to the > > internet, centralizes virus and spam filtering, etc.). So, on all > > of the machines EXCEPT the mail hub, make sure you have: > > > > define(`SMART_HOST', `name-of-mail-hub-machine')dnl > > > > in the sendmail.mc file. You also should decide if you want the hub > > to receive mail on behalf of all your machines. If so, also define > > the MASQUERADE_AS macro: > > > > define(`MASQUERADE_AS', `host.domain.tld')dnl > > > > Now, as to firewalls, only the mail hub needs to talk to the internet > > over port 25. The rest of the machines in your network will use port > > 25 to talk to the mail hub. So, the firewall rules on the router should > > permit the mail hub port 25 access to the internet and should block all > > others. Do NOT block port 25 on any of the internal machines (either > > through iptables or Windows firewalls). > > > > OK, sounds good to me BUT I need some translations. > > > Lets make it simple - two machines named LHOST and LCLIENT. > LHOST is my mail server and LCLIENT is the machine I'm sitting > at. > > First, what file holds these names and on what physical machine > (both for XP and Linux) The "define(`SMART_HOST', `LHOST')dnl" would be put in your LCLIENT's "/etc/mail/submit.mc" file under Linux, after which you must restart sendmail via "service sendmail restart". Under Windows, just modify the SMTP server setting of Outschnook or whatever to point at "LHOST". The "MASQUERADE_AS(`host.domain.tld')dnl" bit would be put in LHOST's /etc/mail/sendmail.mc and /etc/mail/submit.mc files. Again, you must restart sendmail via "service sendmail restart". > Second I'm taking it that "name-of-mail-hub-machine" would be > LHOST Correct. > > for the masquerade command - I may be confused (like normal) but > right now my LHOST machine is receiving all of my mail -if your > talking about from the Internet. BUT if your talking about > receiving it from the other machines then I need this command but > what does "host.domaine.tld" translate into? The "MASQUERADE_AS" would make all outgoing mail look like it's coming from the mail hub machine, not the individual machines on your network. Without it, the "From" lines in headers might show up as "user at LCLIENT". With it, the "From" lines would show up as "user at LHOST". As to the format, I screwed up. The actual format (as I show above) is MASQUERADE_AS(`host.domain.tld')dnl The "host.domain.tld" would translate to the FQDN of your LHOST machine. For example, if your domain is "bmug.com" and your LHOST host name is "mailhub", then "host.domain.tld" is "mailhub.bmug.com". > I'm probably in over my head but I'm use to that. Sendmail can be a bear to configure at times simply because it's so flexible. With flexibility comes complexity, which is why O'Reilly's "bat book" is over 1200 pages in length and costs about $60 US. It's also why people who truly grok sendmail can charge kilobucks for configuring mail systems for large companies. You might find one of the other mail systems such as postfix or qMail easier to configure. The odds are you will never use the advanced features of sendmail--few people do. I did, but I ran a virtual mail service with 10,000 domains and 85,000 users. We sold off that business for the most part, but I still have about 400 domains and over 1500 users and we still do about 30,000 messages a day. BTW, I HATE mail administration! :-p ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Okay, who put a "stop payment" on my reality check? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Aug 16 20:31:52 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:31:52 -0700 Subject: multiple usb drives In-Reply-To: <44E369D1.8030703@lbl.gov> References: <44E369D1.8030703@lbl.gov> Message-ID: <1155760312.24042.45.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 11:54 -0700, chuck lawrence wrote: > greetings, > > I've got an interesting problem. I've got 3 external usb drives, all > running thru a usb 2.0 pci card. the first two (sda and sdb) are > roughly the same vintage. the most recent addition, a year later, is a > larger, faster disk. > > when I boot with them all on, the new disk wants to be sda, rather than > sdc. I surmise this may be because it's a faster disk, and registers > first. I was mounting volumes from the older disks in /etc/rc.local, > but now must mount manually, powering up the new disk after booting. > claerly this is less than ideal. > > is this an inherent problem with multiple external usb drives? I could > reorder the mount sequence, but it makes me a bit wary that I can't > control which disk is which. should I not try to mount them at boot time? The problem is that there's no way to control how the drives come up. The system does a scan of the USB drives and assigns them drive letters depending on the order in which they became available. The same thing can happen with SCSI...it depends on how fast the drives spin up, etc. This is the ONLY time I recommend filesystem labels. If the drives are Linux filesystems, then label them. To do this, figure out which drive is what right now and what you really want them to be. Let's say the three drives are a 10G, a 20G and an 80G, and you want them to be known as "drive1", "drive2" and "drive3" respectively. Find out which drive is /dev/sda NOW (let's say it's the 20G drive). Label the filesystem on it via: e2label /dev/sda1 drive2 And repeat for each of the drives/filesystems. Then change your /etc/fstab entries to reflect the names you gave the filesystems. For example, if you want the 20G drive to mount at, say, "/usr/drive2", then put in a line: LABEL="drive2" /usr/drive2 ext3 defaults 0 0 Then, WHENEVER that drive is plugged in, it'll get mounted as /usr/drive2. Now, if the filesystems are not Linux filesystems (e.g. VFAT), you're kinda stuck. There are games you can play in hotplug and udev to deal with that, but it depends on setting up rules to look at the USB ID strings and setting things up that way. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If at first you don't succeed, quit. No sense being a damned fool! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Aug 16 20:35:33 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:35:33 -0700 Subject: Severe Server Problems (FC4) - Solutions In-Reply-To: <37323.207.173.117.242.1155754165.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> References: <28961.198.60.114.90.1155537629.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <1155577524.10427.22.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> <1155604373.10427.50.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> <37323.207.173.117.242.1155754165.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <1155760533.24042.49.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 12:49 -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > [ I replied to this email already but it didn't work because of my server ] > > On Mon, August 14, 2006 7:12 pm, Rick Stevens wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 14:21 -0600, Karl Pearson wrote: > >> On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Rick Stevens wrote: > >> > >> > On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 00:40 -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > >> >> My RH8.0 email/web server crashed. I've been struggling over the weekend > >> >> to get things back up and still some things are hammered. You can see > >> >> them by doing mailq -qL and re-process them by doing for i in "ls Q*"; do > >> >> sendmail -v -qI$i -d11; done from in /var/spool/mqueue, which has drwx > >> >> --- --- permissions, which is correct. I'm suspect of sm-client, too, > >> >> because it starts, then dies. I had to change the location of > >> >> /var/run/sm-client.pid because it failed to start at all because of > >> >> permissions. > >> >> > >> >> Forms on my server don't submit the emails to me they once did for usage > >> >> tracking, etc. In maillog: > >> >> 1. Aug 14 00:25:58 moroni sendmail[25780]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(apache): > >> >> can not chdir(/var/spool/mqueue/): Permission denied: > >> > > >> > You need to check the sendmail.cf and submit.cf files to see what user the > >> > programs are trying to run as. Generally, sendmail tries to run as root > >> > when it's doing things such as creating mail queue entries and as user > >> > 8:12 (mail:mail) when doing other things such as delivery and such. > >> > smclient usually runs as user "smmsp" at all times. > >> > > >> > As far as /var/run/sm-client.pid, the trick is that it is created by > >> > root's performing a "touch" of it first, then does a "chown smmsp:smmsp" > >> > of the file BEFORE sm-client is fired up. Check /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail > >> > for details. > >> > >> How do I verify that they run as those users? I see in sendmail.mc 8:12, > >> which looks right. > > > > Yes 8:12 is right (check /etc/passwd for user mail). > > > >> Also, sm-client.pid is chmoded to smmsp:smmsp and it > >> still doesn't work. Doing a service sendmail reload succeeds for sendmail > >> and fails for sm-client. > > > > Uh, hmmm. Well, submit.cf should have "O RunAsUser=smmsp" in it, which > > should also make it run as user smmsp. The error message you get when > > you reload sendmail refers to an inability to open > > /var/run/sm-client.pid? That's just plain odd. For giggles, can you > > "service sendmail stop", then delete /var/run/sm-client.pid, then > > "service sendmail start" and see what that does? > > Yes, that worked as advertised. Okay, my solution to all the submit.cf/mc > issues was the line in submit.mc: FEATURE(`msp', `[127.0.0.1]')dnl > My brain-damaged part assumed it was the same as a similar line in sendmail.mc > that MUST be commented out for email to work outside the network. Well, this > line is the opposite. It MUST be there for email to work INSIDE the network. Ah, yes. Well, submit.mc is what sm-client uses and is for sending mail out and you only want it listening to localhost. > Removing my dnl and doing make -C /etc/mail;service sendmail restart started > everything working. Well almost... > > > > >> > >> Another interesting thing is that local email fails, but if I use pine from > >> my PC, it works. > >> > >> > > >> >> It appears these errors result in the next error, which is generated by > >> >> the following CGI command: cat $FNM|tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' |mail -s "Access to > >> >> $ACCESS" karlp > >> >> > >> >> 2. mail: invalid option -- r > >> >> Usage: mail [-iInv] [-s subject] [-c cc-addr] [-b bcc-addr] to-addr ... > >> >> [-- sendmail-options ...] > >> >> mail [-iInNv] -f [name] > >> >> mail [-iInNv] [-u user] > >> >> 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1 > >> > > >> > That's rather odd. Your command line doesn't specify a "-r" anywhere. > >> > This leads one to believe that one of the programs (possibly "tr") got > >> > whapped and is spewing out garbage. You really should try redirecting the > >> > output of it to a file to test it: > >> > > >> > cat $FNM|tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' >/tmp/testoutput > >> > > >> > and you should look at the expansion of "$ACCESS" to see if it has an > >> > embedded quote or something in it. > >> > >> I see nothing in it at all and the email still doesn't come... Same error, > >> too. Interesting that the owner is apache:smmsp in mqueue and both files are > >> there, but one starts with Q rather than q... as before. I was going to > >> `watch` a cat of the file to see if a visit from another host messes up. > > > > Queue files that start with a "Q" indicate that the delivery attempts > > have completely failed (all retries exhausted). That usually indicates > > a bogus "To" address, the destination server isn't listening to SMTP, > > or it's rejecting the mail repeatedly. Check the content of the Q file > > and its associated "d" file for clues. > > These files quit happening once I got submit.mc straightened out (see above). > I used the following line of code to get them up again (from within > /var/spool/mqueue): > > for i in "ls k*"; do sendmail -v -qI$i -d11; done > > > > >> > > >> > > >> >> I apologize for being a bit scattered. I've been relatively brain > >> >> hampered for 3 days now... 13 hours of sleep in the past 50+ hours. > >> > > >> > Lightweight! I've been running on 3 hours of sleep or less per night for > >> > 3 weeks. If you're looking for sympathy, you've come to the WRONG place! > >> > :-p > >> > >> I don't use caffeine. Any sympathy now... (as in 'can you hear me [whine] > >> now?) > > > > Heheheheheh! And in answer to your missive...no, I still don't feel > > your pain. As a matter of fact, I'm rather numb all over. I don't know > > if I feel my own toes at this point. > > You better check to see if your toes are still there... You've been quiet for > a day or so. Should someone check your heartrate just to be sure? > > > > >> PS. I'd love to give you (Rick) ssh access and have you poke around and see > >> how bad an upgrade from RH8.0 to FC4 can go... Just picture named, for > >> example, without a chroot option working getting kludged back to the old > >> way. > > > > Oh, my GAWD! 8.0 to FC4? Yikes! Just 8.0 alone is frightening. That > > was possibly one of the worst RH releases in known times! > > Yes, 8.0 to FC4. It's come up smoothly, other than one final annoyance, which > I'll post separately. > > Karl > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > > - - > > - Never eat anything larger than your head - > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "If you can't fix it...duct tape it!" - Tim Allen - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From cinetron at passport.ca Wed Aug 16 20:37:16 2006 From: cinetron at passport.ca (jim ruxton) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:37:16 -0400 Subject: Problem with Suspend in FC5 In-Reply-To: <27994.207.177.227.29.1155739548.squirrel@sujan.hallikainen.org> References: <1155737023.3735.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <27994.207.177.227.29.1155739548.squirrel@sujan.hallikainen.org> Message-ID: <1155760636.2707.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> I would rather disable the Suspend function if I have to live with this problem. Any ideas how I would disable the suspend feature if I can't get it to work? Jim > >I have a problem with my laptop. If I close the lid with AC power > > removed the machine goes into some kind of suspension mode and I can't > > pull it out without doing a hard power down. Any ideas how to fix this? > > I'm using FC5 on an HP ZD7000 laptop. Thanks! > > Jim > > > I have a similar problem with mh HP zv something or another on FC5. FC4 > seemed to work ok. I think what's happening on mine is the display chip is > being told to shut down the display, but when it comes back up, it doesn't > initialize it correctly. It puts big blocks of color on the screen. > Otherwise, it's working well. I did have to use ndiswrapper to get the > Broadcom wifi working. I could not get the included wifi driver working. > With FC4 I had to get an ATI driver for the screen, but FC5 seems to work > well with the included code (maybe that's the problem?). > > Harold > From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Aug 16 21:38:55 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:38:55 -0700 Subject: Problem with Suspend in FC5 In-Reply-To: <1155760636.2707.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1155737023.3735.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <27994.207.177.227.29.1155739548.squirrel@sujan.hallikainen.org> <1155760636.2707.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1155764335.24042.64.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 16:37 -0400, jim ruxton wrote: > I would rather disable the Suspend function if I have to live with this > problem. Any ideas how I would disable the suspend feature if I can't > get it to work? These are controlled by files in the /etc/acpi directory, and are often unique to the video chipset you have. For example, my HP zv6000 uses an ATI chipset, so the chip-specific scripts contain "ati" in their names. If you want to ignore the lid closure, then edit /etc/acpi/events/a-lid*.conf and comment out the lines in there. The odds are, however, that if you edit the /etc/acpi/events/video.conf file and UNcomment the lines in there, things will start working when you open the lid. That's not necessary on my zv6000 but may be in your case. It won't hurt anything to experiment beyond a possible reboot, but you've done that before....:-) > Jim > > >I have a problem with my laptop. If I close the lid with AC power > > > removed the machine goes into some kind of suspension mode and I can't > > > pull it out without doing a hard power down. Any ideas how to fix this? > > > I'm using FC5 on an HP ZD7000 laptop. Thanks! > > > Jim > > > > > > I have a similar problem with mh HP zv something or another on FC5. FC4 > > seemed to work ok. I think what's happening on mine is the display chip is > > being told to shut down the display, but when it comes back up, it doesn't > > initialize it correctly. It puts big blocks of color on the screen. > > Otherwise, it's working well. I did have to use ndiswrapper to get the > > Broadcom wifi working. I could not get the included wifi driver working. > > With FC4 I had to get an ATI driver for the screen, but FC5 seems to work > > well with the included code (maybe that's the problem?). > > > > Harold > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Thu Aug 17 04:47:26 2006 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:47:26 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Severe Server Problems (FC4) Follow-up Message-ID: <31495.198.60.114.90.1155790046.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> The [apparent] final issue also deals with email and Thunderbird/Outlook (evil program, by the way. if you don't beleive me, read the config file for dovecot). They can't pickup email at all (one subnet) and on the subnet where they can pick email up, they can't send without getting a password prompt, which never works. During my time setting things up, I setup sendmail.pem (public key) and it seems to work fine with Squirrelmail and pine, whether from the server via SSH or from workstations. Any pointers as to where to start looking would be nice. Frankly, I'm burned out from this project. I do this all day at work, then all night at home. (No, Rick, I want no sympathy from you. You have your own issues and I don't want to be one of them, unlike my children...) -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP at ourldsfamily.com --- Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America right after 9/11/2001: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- The world is a dangerous place to live... not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein --- From bret_stern at machinemanagement.com Thu Aug 17 16:51:40 2006 From: bret_stern at machinemanagement.com (Bret Stern) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:51:40 -0700 Subject: ftp xferlog - time stamp Message-ID: <200608171658.k7HGwaWl002616@ns2.netmagic.net> Concerning the timestamp for successful transfers in the wsftp log xferlog. Where does the timestamp in the log com from? (i'm assuming the clock on the receiving server) Regards, B Stern From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Aug 17 17:44:29 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:44:29 -0700 Subject: ftp xferlog - time stamp In-Reply-To: <200608171658.k7HGwaWl002616@ns2.netmagic.net> References: <200608171658.k7HGwaWl002616@ns2.netmagic.net> Message-ID: <1155836669.24042.69.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 09:51 -0700, Bret Stern wrote: > Concerning the timestamp for successful transfers in the wsftp log xferlog. > > Where does the timestamp in the log com from? > (i'm assuming the clock on the receiving server) The timestamps are from the server. The client has no way to impress it's time on the server. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Aug 17 17:59:45 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:59:45 -0700 Subject: Severe Server Problems (FC4) Follow-up In-Reply-To: <31495.198.60.114.90.1155790046.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> References: <31495.198.60.114.90.1155790046.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <1155837585.24042.74.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 22:47 -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > The [apparent] final issue also deals with email and Thunderbird/Outlook (evil > program, by the way. if you don't beleive me, read the config file for > dovecot). > > They can't pickup email at all (one subnet) and on the subnet where they can > pick email up, they can't send without getting a password prompt, which never > works. Can you try accessing the pickups manually, such as telnet? If that fails as well, then can you get to the mail server at all? > During my time setting things up, I setup sendmail.pem (public key) and it > seems to work fine with Squirrelmail and pine, whether from the server via SSH > or from workstations. The same servers that can't send? Hmmm. I ask because this smells a bit like a DNS issue. StartTLS rules in access want host names and if reverse DNS lookups don't work, neither will TLS automatically. > Any pointers as to where to start looking would be nice. Frankly, I'm burned > out from this project. I do this all day at work, then all night at home. (No, > Rick, I want no sympathy from you. You have your own issues and I don't want > to be one of them, unlike my children...) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - BASIC is the Computer Science version of `Scientific Creationism' - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From bret_stern at machinemanagement.com Fri Aug 18 15:35:58 2006 From: bret_stern at machinemanagement.com (Bret Stern) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:35:58 -0700 Subject: secure log question Message-ID: <200608181542.k7IFgTH4005873@ns2.netmagic.net> What is this process/session from the log "secure" on Fedora 5? Aug 16 04:02:09 servant su: pam_unix(su:session): session opened for user beagleindex by (uid=0) What log is the best place to look for malicious connections? B Stern From stuart at sjsears.com Fri Aug 18 15:48:38 2006 From: stuart at sjsears.com (Stuart Sears) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:48:38 +0100 Subject: secure log question In-Reply-To: <200608181542.k7IFgTH4005873@ns2.netmagic.net> References: <200608181542.k7IFgTH4005873@ns2.netmagic.net> Message-ID: <44E5E156.3030701@sjsears.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bret Stern wrote: > What is this process/session from the log "secure" on Fedora 5? > > Aug 16 04:02:09 servant su: pam_unix(su:session): session opened for user > beagleindex by (uid=0) that looks like beagled has been run to index files on your filesystem. Probably as a cron task. In fact definitely. this is run by cron via the /etc/cron.daily/beagle-crawl-system script > What log is the best place to look for malicious > connections? /var/log/messages - - should tell you when (eg) login sessions are opened and also /var/log/secure will give you security information about them. relying on local logs to detect malicious connections is not particularly reliable. if you have a firewall in place most incoming traffic will be rejected in any case. other services will have logs that they use to detail requests that they have responded to or rejected. Regards Stuart - -- Stuart Sears RHCA RHCX To err is human, to forgive is Not Company Policy. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE5eFWamPtx1brPQ4RAge/AJ0QJXQxbSw+p+51Sm0CqTBFTma1KwCfVhsk PxTkuDnT66ohVtydB+lQKn4= =gkQe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Aug 18 20:59:59 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:59:59 -0700 Subject: secure log question In-Reply-To: <44E5E156.3030701@sjsears.com> References: <200608181542.k7IFgTH4005873@ns2.netmagic.net> <44E5E156.3030701@sjsears.com> Message-ID: <1155934799.3507.2.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Fri, 2006-08-18 at 16:48 +0100, Stuart Sears wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Bret Stern wrote: > > What is this process/session from the log "secure" on Fedora 5? > > > > Aug 16 04:02:09 servant su: pam_unix(su:session): session opened for user > > beagleindex by (uid=0) > > that looks like beagled has been run to index files on your filesystem. > Probably as a cron task. In fact definitely. > this is run by cron via the /etc/cron.daily/beagle-crawl-system script > > > What log is the best place to look for malicious > > connections? > > /var/log/messages > - - should tell you when (eg) login sessions are opened > and also > /var/log/secure > will give you security information about them. Don't forget to use "lastlog" to check the login history of users. > relying on local logs to detect malicious connections > is not particularly reliable. if you have a firewall in place most > incoming traffic will be rejected in any case. Yup. Firewalls good. :-) > other services will have logs that they use to detail requests that they > have responded to or rejected. 'tis also good to have snort (http://www.snort.org/) in your hip pocket. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - grep me no patterns and I'll tell you no lines - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Sat Aug 19 05:44:47 2006 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:44:47 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Epson CX-3810 Message-ID: I'm running RH9 and just hooked my Epson CX-3810 all in one printer up to a Netgear USB print server - 192.168.1.60 Can't seem to be able to print to the printer nor can I use the scanner. I've read some articles of others that have done this but not with my setup. I have no problem browsing to the print server setup page so I can access the printer OK. It appears that it's using SMB, probably a newer version of Linux than I'm running 8^) Has anyone had any luck using a this print server with Redhat? How about this printer/scanner? I could use some help. Thanks, Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Sat Aug 19 05:51:50 2006 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:51:50 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Epson CX-3810 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16568.198.60.114.90.1155966710.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> On Fri, August 18, 2006 11:44 pm, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > I'm running RH9 and just hooked my Epson CX-3810 all in one > printer up to a Netgear USB print server - 192.168.1.60 > > Can't seem to be able to print to the printer nor can I use the > scanner. I've read some articles of others that have done this > but not with my setup. I'd recommend hooking it straight into the PC via USB to see if it's recognized. The drivers necessary to run it probably have to be loaded during boot and won't be seen over the network, probably ever. Also, on RH9, I beleive you have to run hotplug usb to get it to see things correctly. I wouldn't be surprized if it never is seen unless you run a release of Linux that has haldaemon running where hal = Hardware Abstraction Layer, which is the same name MS uses and runs on their OS to probe for hardware and make an attempt set it up. > > I have no problem browsing to the print server setup page so I > can access the printer OK. It appears that it's using SMB, > probably a newer version of Linux than I'm running 8^) TCP-IP is one thing, local USB is entirely different. > > Has anyone had any luck using a this print server with Redhat? > How about this printer/scanner? I could use some help. Nope, totally guessing here. > > Thanks, Save it until something works, then I'm all 'You're Welcome!' over it. > > Brad Mugleston, KI0OT Karl > > There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that > understand binary and those that don't. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP at ourldsfamily.com --- Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America right after 9/11/2001: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- The world is a dangerous place to live... not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein --- From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Sat Aug 19 06:12:49 2006 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:12:49 -0600 (MDT) Subject: SendMail Help In-Reply-To: <1155754511.24042.31.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> References: <081520060129.6354.44E1236B000A33C7000018D2221357533302019B9C0A04099A03D20B0E9D0D@comcast.net> <1155631543.9673.73.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> <1155689188.10427.81.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> <1155754511.24042.31.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Aug 2006, Rick Stevens wrote: > On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 20:42 -0600, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > > want to designate a "mail hub" which receives mail from all of your > > > internal machines and sends it out on behalf of them. > > > > > > For security reasons, I recommend a mail hub (only it is exposed to the > > > internet, centralizes virus and spam filtering, etc.). So, on all > > > of the machines EXCEPT the mail hub, make sure you have: > > > > > > define(`SMART_HOST', `name-of-mail-hub-machine')dnl > > > > > > in the sendmail.mc file. You also should decide if you want the hub > > > to receive mail on behalf of all your machines. If so, also define > > > the MASQUERADE_AS macro: > > > > > > define(`MASQUERADE_AS', `host.domain.tld')dnl > > > > > > Now, as to firewalls, only the mail hub needs to talk to the internet > > > over port 25. The rest of the machines in your network will use port > > > 25 to talk to the mail hub. So, the firewall rules on the router should > > > permit the mail hub port 25 access to the internet and should block all > > > others. Do NOT block port 25 on any of the internal machines (either > > > through iptables or Windows firewalls). > > > > > > > OK, sounds good to me BUT I need some translations. > > > > > > Lets make it simple - two machines named LHOST and LCLIENT. > > LHOST is my mail server and LCLIENT is the machine I'm sitting > > at. > > > > First, what file holds these names and on what physical machine > > (both for XP and Linux) > > The "define(`SMART_HOST', `LHOST')dnl" would be > put in your LCLIENT's "/etc/mail/submit.mc" file under Linux, after > which you must restart sendmail via "service sendmail restart". > > Under Windows, just modify the SMTP server setting of Outschnook or > whatever to point at "LHOST". > > The "MASQUERADE_AS(`host.domain.tld')dnl" bit would be put > in LHOST's /etc/mail/sendmail.mc and /etc/mail/submit.mc files. Again, > you must restart sendmail via "service sendmail restart". > > > Second I'm taking it that "name-of-mail-hub-machine" would be > > LHOST > > Correct. > > > > > for the masquerade command - I may be confused (like normal) but > > right now my LHOST machine is receiving all of my mail -if your > > talking about from the Internet. BUT if your talking about > > receiving it from the other machines then I need this command but > > what does "host.domaine.tld" translate into? > > The "MASQUERADE_AS" would make all outgoing mail look like it's coming > from the mail hub machine, not the individual machines on your network. > Without it, the "From" lines in headers might show up as "user at LCLIENT". > With it, the "From" lines would show up as "user at LHOST". > > As to the format, I screwed up. The actual format (as I show above) is > > MASQUERADE_AS(`host.domain.tld')dnl > > The "host.domain.tld" would translate to the FQDN of your LHOST machine. > For example, if your domain is "bmug.com" and your LHOST host name is > "mailhub", then "host.domain.tld" is "mailhub.bmug.com". > > > I'm probably in over my head but I'm use to that. > > Sendmail can be a bear to configure at times simply because it's so > flexible. With flexibility comes complexity, which is why O'Reilly's > "bat book" is over 1200 pages in length and costs about $60 US. It's > also why people who truly grok sendmail can charge kilobucks for > configuring mail systems for large companies. > > You might find one of the other mail systems such as postfix or qMail > easier to configure. The odds are you will never use the advanced > features of sendmail--few people do. I did, but I ran a virtual mail > service with 10,000 domains and 85,000 users. We sold off that > business for the most part, but I still have about 400 domains and over > 1500 users and we still do about 30,000 messages a day. > > BTW, I HATE mail administration! :-p > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Okay, who put a "stop payment" on my reality check? - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Rick, As always your a great help - this weekend has gotten more than a little busy but I'll let you know if I can get it to work. Brad From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Mon Aug 21 00:41:14 2006 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:41:14 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Test Message-ID: Haven't received any emails from this list in a few days - was just wondering if it's been down or I'd been kicked off 8^( Thanks, Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From bc98kinney at yahoo.com Mon Aug 21 01:54:02 2006 From: bc98kinney at yahoo.com (Bob Kinney) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Test In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060821015402.51243.qmail@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Is there a fedora-install-list? --- brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > Haven't received any emails from this list in a few days - was > just wondering if it's been down or I'd been kicked off 8^( > > Thanks, > > Brad Mugleston, KI0OT > > There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that > understand binary and those that don't. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Mon Aug 21 02:35:51 2006 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:35:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Test In-Reply-To: <20060821015402.51243.qmail@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060821015402.51243.qmail@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <12664.198.60.114.90.1156127751.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> On Sun, August 20, 2006 7:54 pm, Bob Kinney wrote: > Is there a fedora-install-list? Not that I know of, however, there is the fedora forums which are online at http://www.fedoraforum.org/ I've posted there a bit and have received some help, too, but it's an annoying tool that isn't as nice as just sending a question and getting responses. They do have an email notification when someone answers, but it's not as nice as a good, old fashioned email list. Also, this list is pretty dead as of late. I wonder how many members it has left... Karl > > > > --- brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > >> Haven't received any emails from this list in a few days - was >> just wondering if it's been down or I'd been kicked off 8^( >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brad Mugleston, KI0OT >> >> There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that >> understand binary and those that don't. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Redhat-install-list mailing list >> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >> Subject: unsubscribe >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP at ourldsfamily.com --- Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America right after 9/11/2001: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- The world is a dangerous place to live... not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein --- From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Mon Aug 21 04:00:00 2006 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:00:00 -0600 Subject: PTPP/VPN Server? In-Reply-To: <1155760312.24042.45.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> References: <44E369D1.8030703@lbl.gov> <1155760312.24042.45.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> Message-ID: Recommendations anyone for a VPN server on FC4? From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Aug 21 18:54:01 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:54:01 -0700 Subject: PTPP/VPN Server? In-Reply-To: References: <44E369D1.8030703@lbl.gov> <1155760312.24042.45.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> Message-ID: <1156186441.3507.15.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Sun, 2006-08-20 at 22:00 -0600, karlp wrote: > Recommendations anyone for a VPN server on FC4? OpenVPN works pretty well, but it's a TLS-based system. If you want IPsec-based stuff, then vpnc is a good option (it's in the Extras repository of FC4 and FC5, just enable the Extras repository and "yum install vpnc"). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Silence! Or I shall replace you with a very small shell script! - - - The Wizard of OS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Aug 21 19:10:06 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:10:06 -0700 Subject: Epson CX-3810 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1156187406.3507.25.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Fri, 2006-08-18 at 23:44 -0600, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > I'm running RH9 and just hooked my Epson CX-3810 all in one > printer up to a Netgear USB print server - 192.168.1.60 > > Can't seem to be able to print to the printer nor can I use the > scanner. I've read some articles of others that have done this > but not with my setup. > > I have no problem browsing to the print server setup page so I > can access the printer OK. It appears that it's using SMB, > probably a newer version of Linux than I'm running 8^) The Netgear website shows their various servers as running "PTP" and Windows LPD protocols. I have no idea what the hell they think "PTP" is and Windows LPD isn't standard LPD, either. Very weird. > Has anyone had any luck using a this print server with Redhat? > How about this printer/scanner? I could use some help. Well, it sure sounds like Samba is the way to go. Fire up your Samba client and see what devices are offered by the server: smbclient -L -I 192.168.1.60 That should tell you what the server thinks the device is called. According to linuxprinting.org, you want the "gutenprint" driver (formerly known as Gimp-Print), and the native CUPS driver should work. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To err is human. To forgive, a large sum of money is needed. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Aug 21 19:11:52 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:11:52 -0700 Subject: Test In-Reply-To: <12664.198.60.114.90.1156127751.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> References: <20060821015402.51243.qmail@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <12664.198.60.114.90.1156127751.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <1156187512.3507.28.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Sun, 2006-08-20 at 20:35 -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > On Sun, August 20, 2006 7:54 pm, Bob Kinney wrote: > > Is there a fedora-install-list? Nope. > Not that I know of, however, there is the fedora forums which are online at > http://www.fedoraforum.org/ > > I've posted there a bit and have received some help, too, but it's an annoying > tool that isn't as nice as just sending a question and getting responses. They > do have an email notification when someone answers, but it's not as nice as a > good, old fashioned email list. The "fedora-list at redhat.com" is quite busy, and they cover almost all subjects there. > Also, this list is pretty dead as of late. I wonder how many members it has > left... Not many. Just some old timers like me! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The world is coming to an end ... SAVE YOUR FILES!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Mon Aug 21 23:50:49 2006 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:50:49 -0600 (MDT) Subject: PTPP/VPN Server? In-Reply-To: <1156186441.3507.15.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> References: <44E369D1.8030703@lbl.gov> <1155760312.24042.45.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> <1156186441.3507.15.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> Message-ID: <19042.198.60.114.90.1156204249.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> On Mon, August 21, 2006 12:54 pm, Rick Stevens wrote: > On Sun, 2006-08-20 at 22:00 -0600, karlp wrote: >> Recommendations anyone for a VPN server on FC4? > > OpenVPN works pretty well, but it's a TLS-based system. If you want > IPsec-based stuff, then vpnc is a good option (it's in the Extras > repository of FC4 and FC5, just enable the Extras repository and > "yum install vpnc"). I use vpnc to connect to Cisco PIX (garbage, as far as I'm concerned) Firewalls when I absolutely have to. I looked at OpenVPN and its docs say it has to be both the client and server; no go. After a bit of searching I found a simple HOWTO on fedoraforum.org and just had to do yum install pptpd and follow the instructions for the config files. Worked first time out of the box. I haven't tried it from a WIN32 client yet. If it doesn't work from that, I'm not going to be too sad. I now get to keep my FC5 workstation up all the time, which I pretty much did anyway, because there's too much tweaking required from FC4, which my server has. FC5 versions come with the correct stuff. Also, FC5 has mppe pre-enabled, so I ignored those parts of the instructions, which meant all I had to do was yum install pptpd and I was up. Isn't FC5 nice? Of course it is. Karl From micros50 at computer.net Tue Aug 22 05:48:02 2006 From: micros50 at computer.net (mylar) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:48:02 -0400 Subject: Test In-Reply-To: <1156187512.3507.28.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> References: <20060821015402.51243.qmail@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <12664.198.60.114.90.1156127751.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> <1156187512.3507.28.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> Message-ID: <1156225682.9533.48.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 15:11, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > Also, this list is pretty dead as of late. I wonder how many members it has > > left... > > Not many. Just some old timers like me! > Yeah but not as bad as the old "redhat-ppp-list" list which I am still subscribed to but rarely see any messages appear there. Last message I have from that list was in June of this year. Even worst, the old "linux-diald" (a dialup on demand daemon) is defunct. With the addition of "dial on demand" to the pppd daemon and the adoption of broadband interest in diald dwindled. I have an old machine (now decommissioned) that still has Redhat 6.0 and diald installed and functional (but no longer in use here) . mylar From tpotter at techmarin.com Tue Aug 22 05:48:09 2006 From: tpotter at techmarin.com (Ted Potter) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:48:09 -0700 Subject: Test In-Reply-To: <1156187512.3507.28.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> References: <20060821015402.51243.qmail@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <12664.198.60.114.90.1156127751.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> <1156187512.3507.28.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> Message-ID: <5ce05200608212248g6d7aa555i973d5ef7f73c12e6@mail.gmail.com> Hey I'm not dead. It's just FC5 rocks along like nobodys business ! On 8/21/06, Rick Stevens wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-08-20 at 20:35 -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > > On Sun, August 20, 2006 7:54 pm, Bob Kinney wrote: > > > Is there a fedora-install-list? > > Nope. > > > Not that I know of, however, there is the fedora forums which are > online at > > http://www.fedoraforum.org/ > > > > I've posted there a bit and have received some help, too, but it's an > annoying > > tool that isn't as nice as just sending a question and getting > responses. They > > do have an email notification when someone answers, but it's not as nice > as a > > good, old fashioned email list. > > The "fedora-list at redhat.com" is quite busy, and they cover almost all > subjects there. > > > Also, this list is pretty dead as of late. I wonder how many members it > has > > left... > > Not many. Just some old timers like me! > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - The world is coming to an end ... SAVE YOUR FILES!!! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- Ted Potter tpotter at techmarin.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From diogenes at xenodochy.org Tue Aug 29 04:57:41 2006 From: diogenes at xenodochy.org (Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr.) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:57:41 -0400 Subject: Test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:41:14 -0400, wrote: > Haven't received any emails from this list in a few days - was > just wondering if it's been down or I'd been kicked off 8^( > > Thanks, > > Brad Mugleston, KI0OT I'm still using Shrike. Haven't had the nerve to put Fedora on yet. -- Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr. http://www.xenodochy.org/ralph.html 191 White Oaks Road Williamstown, MA 01267-2259 Phone: 413-458-3597 Home pages: http://www.xenodochy.org http://www.ballroomdances.org ------------------------------------------------------- FIGHT SPAM http://www.xenodochy.org/diogenes/antispam.html (If you are thinking about collecting my email address, read the above page first!) ------------------------------------------------------ Plain text markup: *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, LOUD -------------------------------------------------------- Keep our semantic environments and cyberspace clean. 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You might try breaking the exports line into several pieces with trailing "\" chars at the end of each except the last one. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - grasshopotomaus: A creature that can leap to tremendous heights... - - ...once. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Wed Aug 30 21:24:55 2006 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:24:55 -0700 Subject: NFS and 16 group limitation In-Reply-To: <1156972686.3507.199.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:18 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: NFS and 16 group limitation > >> On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 13:55 -0700, Waldher, Travis R wrote: >> Anyone have a way around it? > > 16 group limitation? As in netgroups? I wasn't aware such a limitation > existed. Are you sure it's not a limitation on the config file line > length? You might try breaking the exports line into several pieces > with trailing "\" chars at the end of each except the last one. My bad, I wasn't clear. As in the number of groups a user can belong to and be recognized by NFS V3. I don't have the ability to go to NFS V4. From tpotter at techmarin.com Wed Aug 30 23:11:57 2006 From: tpotter at techmarin.com (Ted Potter) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:11:57 -0700 Subject: FC5 with dual displays Message-ID: <5ce05200608301611v63775174s49ca659131d6743c@mail.gmail.com> Has anyone been able to get dual displays to work with FC5 ? from my memory people were not having a lot of luck. Any pointers etc. would be great to hear about. using: 2.6.17-1.2174_FC5 Thank you. -- Ted Potter tpotter at techmarin.com From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Wed Aug 30 23:59:09 2006 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:59:09 -0600 (MDT) Subject: FC5 with dual displays In-Reply-To: <5ce05200608301611v63775174s49ca659131d6743c@mail.gmail.com> References: <5ce05200608301611v63775174s49ca659131d6743c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <17127.198.60.114.90.1156982349.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> On Wed, August 30, 2006 5:11 pm, Ted Potter wrote: > Has anyone been able to get dual displays to work with FC5 ? from my > memory people were not > having a lot of luck. Any pointers etc. would be great to hear about. > > using: > 2.6.17-1.2174_FC5 I'm using 2.6.16-1.2133_FC5 and it's working splendidly. At work, I'm on the same kernel you are and it works out of the box there, too. I had a bunch of trouble in the beginning, but after an update to something, it started working. I had to undo it, then redo it, then restart X and it came up fine. It's as advertised... Now to see if I can get 3 monitors working... Karl > > > Thank you. > > -- > Ted Potter > tpotter at techmarin.com > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP at ourldsfamily.com --- Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America right after 9/11/2001: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- The world is a dangerous place to live... not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein --- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Aug 31 00:08:52 2006 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:08:52 -0700 Subject: NFS and 16 group limitation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1156982932.5620.1.camel@prophead.corp.publichost.com> On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 14:24 -0700, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:18 PM > > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Subject: Re: NFS and 16 group limitation > > > >> On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 13:55 -0700, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >> Anyone have a way around it? > > > > 16 group limitation? As in netgroups? I wasn't aware such a > limitation > > existed. Are you sure it's not a limitation on the config file line > > length? You might try breaking the exports line into several pieces > > with trailing "\" chars at the end of each except the last one. > > My bad, I wasn't clear. > > As in the number of groups a user can belong to and be recognized by NFS > V3. I don't have the ability to go to NFS V4. Hmmm. Well, I don't know there's a limit on netgroups. You might try that (make the user a member of a netgroup that contains other groupings of netgroups, etc.). Clunky, but may work. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From cs at zip.com.au Thu Aug 31 02:08:00 2006 From: cs at zip.com.au (Cameron Simpson) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:08:00 +1000 Subject: NFS and 16 group limitation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060831020800.GA6282@janus> On 30Aug2006 13:55, Waldher, Travis R wrote: | Anyone have a way around it? There's isn't one. What I used to do was choose the most important 15 groups for the user. At my former employer I ran a group db; it had the nice hierachical nested group convenieces you'd want in a real organisation. The NIS group mapping was computed from that data structure. For users in more than 16 groups I would sort the groups on a few criteria and choose the front 15 (one left over for the primary group field). Now, I had a few ways to tune that sort. The user had a PREFGROUPS field in their db entry for groups they, personally, used. Groups could have a GROUPUSED flag saying they were generally used. After that there was a special purpose group tree we that got priority (because it only contained groups used in filesystem permissions) then we chose "top-level" groups over subgroups, then we had a group tree that came last because they weren't used in filesystem permissions. That normally gave use enough flexibility to work around the limit. I suggest as a first cut that you keep the "real" full member as a separate file, keep a table of users and the groups they must have (which you fill out as users complain about specific accesses) and then write simple "prune the full table" script to produce the pruned table. You can add the extra levels of complexity as they become necessary. Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ Warning: Do not look into laser with remaining eye. - Charlie Stross