From buzdavis at earthlink.net Wed Sep 2 03:30:29 2009 From: buzdavis at earthlink.net (Buz Davis) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:30:29 -0400 Subject: problem installing Fedora 8 Message-ID: <4A9DE6D5.6090806@earthlink.net> Rick Stevens wrote: >Have you tried looking at the other consoles (ALT-F2, ALT-F3, ALT-F4) to >see if there's some specific error when it croaks? Thanks for the suggestion, Rick. I was unaware of these. I have checked them and found messages to the effect that the processor is not supported. These actually referenced a processor later than my K6. I then did some googling and found that apparently the first release of Fedora 8 did have a problem with AMD processors. This was apparently fixed in what some sites refer to as "respins", but they don't seem to be available at this time. I went ahead and ordered a copy of CentOS and am mainly counting on that. However I also bought an intel-based pentium system at the local NearlyNew store thinking that perhaps I could install Fedora 8 on that. I had to blow away a broken XP system (I now have perhaps the hottest MS-DOS box around) and I am getting farther into the install before problems crop up, but so far there have been problems. The CDs pass the media test, but they always seem to fail somewhere in the install itself with "probably invalid media". Perhaps the CD drive needs cleaning, or perhaps the hard disk is flakey - I just haven't had a chance to check in any detail. I haven't totally given up on F 8 but as I said I am waiting for CentOS (which sounds like the system for me - I want something reasonably up-to-date but not necessarily leading-edge). Is it possible to copy the CD images to another computer on the network and then start the install from the target machine referencing the network as a source for the images ? I do have a network, but nothing fancy (though I think the "new" pentium computer has a cdrw drive). Man, I hope you don't live anywhere near those brush fires! I know there are lots of folks hurting and I hope you aren't among them! From ricks at nerd.com Wed Sep 2 17:23:50 2009 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:23:50 -0700 Subject: problem installing Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <4A9DE6D5.6090806@earthlink.net> References: <4A9DE6D5.6090806@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4A9EAA26.6050906@nerd.com> Buz Davis wrote: > Rick Stevens wrote: > >Have you tried looking at the other consoles (ALT-F2, ALT-F3, ALT-F4) to > >see if there's some specific error when it croaks? > > Thanks for the suggestion, Rick. I was unaware of these. I have > checked them and found messages to the effect that the processor is not > supported. These actually referenced a processor later than my K6. > I then did some googling and found that apparently the first release of > Fedora 8 did have a problem with AMD processors. This was apparently > fixed in what some sites refer to as "respins", but they don't seem to > be available at this time. Oh, that may be an issue. F8 is dead (F10 forced EOL on F8, F11 forced EOL on F8, F12 will force EOL on F10, etc., etc.). Fedoraunity.org was the home of the respins, but I don't know if there's any F8 respins left there. > I went ahead and ordered a copy of CentOS and am mainly counting on > that. However I also bought an intel-based pentium system at the local > NearlyNew store thinking that perhaps I could install Fedora 8 on that. > I had to blow away a broken XP system (I now have perhaps the hottest > MS-DOS box around) and I am getting farther into the install before > problems crop up, but so far there have been problems. The CDs pass the > media test, but they always seem to fail somewhere in the install itself > with "probably invalid media". Perhaps the CD drive needs cleaning, or > perhaps the hard disk is flakey - I just haven't had a chance to check > in any detail. It's not uncommon for the CD tests to fail even if the media is fine. That issue is better addressed in later Fedora releases. If you turn off DMA during the install (appending "nodma" to the command line), the test will probably pass, but the install will be slow and anaconda will add "nodma" to the boot command in grub. Easy enough to remove it, but there it is. > I haven't totally given up on F 8 but as I said I am waiting for CentOS > (which sounds like the system for me - I want something reasonably > up-to-date but not necessarily leading-edge). F11 is pretty stable, but it orphans your processor, I think. Since F9, only 586 and later processors are supported. You gotta join the 21st century at some point, I guess. > Is it possible to copy the CD images to another computer on the network > and then start the install from the target machine referencing the > network as a source for the images ? I do have a network, but nothing > fancy (though I think the "new" pentium computer has a cdrw drive). Yes, it's called a "network install". There are a couple of ways to do it...one is to put the .iso image on a server somewhere and access it via HTTP. Another is to have the _files_ inside the .iso extracted to a specific directory on the server, then share that directory via NFS. > Man, I hope you don't live anywhere near those brush fires! I know > there are lots of folks hurting and I hope you aren't among them! I don't, but my mother does. Not too close (about five miles, one freeway and several canyons away), but close enough where the smoke is a problem (she's 80). I used to work at JPL in my younger days and I know many folk who live in LC/F (La Canada/Flintridge) and I'm worried about them. That's the price you pay for living in the hills, unfortunately. I live near the beach, so the price I pay is in dollars. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - The light at the end of the tunnel is really an oncoming train. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rgonzales at earthboundmediagroup.com Wed Sep 2 20:52:39 2009 From: rgonzales at earthboundmediagroup.com (Robert Gonzales) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:52:39 -0700 Subject: Using Yum on RedHat without a subscription Message-ID: <0BE1A1370B797A489FE10B8B3D48EFEF013A6F12@exchange.earthboundmedia.com> Hello all, I am trying to use YUM on a RedHat enterprise 5 installation without a RedHat subscription. 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URL: From ricks at nerd.com Wed Sep 2 21:32:28 2009 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:32:28 -0700 Subject: Update RedHat Enterprise without a subscription In-Reply-To: <0BE1A1370B797A489FE10B8B3D48EFEF013A6F14@exchange.earthboundmedia.com> References: <0BE1A1370B797A489FE10B8B3D48EFEF013A6F14@exchange.earthboundmedia.com> Message-ID: <4A9EE46C.5090609@nerd.com> Robert Gonzales wrote: > I would like to know if it is possible to apply security and bug fixes > to RedHat Enterprise Linux 5 without purchasing a subscription? To answer both of your posts, RHEL doesn't use yum for updates. It uses "up2date" and it requires a subscription (or to use their terms, an "entitlement"--what are they, government workers?) yum is used by CentOS and Fedora. CentOS is built from Red Hat's SRPMs and tracks RHEL closely, but does lag behind a bit (a couple of days at most, usually). Most fixes to RHEL can be found in CentOS. Now, you CAN use yum and aim it at the CentOS 5 repositories for free. You may have to bugger the repo scripts a bit because the /etc/redhat-release" file for RHEL (where yum gets its "$releasever" variable from) has different data than that for CentOS. I'd encourage you speak to your corporate lawyer and have the spectacularly silly disclaimer removed from your company's outgoing messages. Posting to a public email list instantly voids any possible pretension towards confidentiality. It is absolutely useless verbiage and I refuse to quote it here. If you're worried about dissemination of emails, then everything should be GPG-encrypted so only those with your key can read them. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - "People tell me I look at the dark side. That's not true. 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URL: From bob at bobcatos.com Thu Sep 3 03:01:24 2009 From: bob at bobcatos.com (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:01:24 -0500 Subject: Update RedHat Enterprise without a subscription In-Reply-To: <4A9EE46C.5090609@nerd.com> References: <0BE1A1370B797A489FE10B8B3D48EFEF013A6F14@exchange.earthboundmedia.com> <4A9EE46C.5090609@nerd.com> Message-ID: <20090903030124.GA23986@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 02:32:28PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Robert Gonzales wrote: >> I would like to know if it is possible to apply security and bug fixes >> to RedHat Enterprise Linux 5 without purchasing a subscription? > > To answer both of your posts, RHEL doesn't use yum for updates. It uses > "up2date" and it requires a subscription (or to use their terms, an > "entitlement"--what are they, government workers?) Umm, as it turns out RHEL4 used up2date, but RHEL5 uses yum. One of my clients has four real servers and four virtuals and all of them are on RH subscriptions. We update all of them with yum. > yum is used by CentOS and Fedora. CentOS is built from Red Hat's SRPMs > and tracks RHEL closely, but does lag behind a bit (a couple of days at > most, usually). Most fixes to RHEL can be found in CentOS. > > Now, you CAN use yum and aim it at the CentOS 5 repositories for free. > You may have to bugger the repo scripts a bit because the > /etc/redhat-release" file for RHEL (where yum gets its "$releasever" > variable from) has different data than that for CentOS. > > > > I'd encourage you speak to your corporate lawyer and have the > spectacularly silly disclaimer removed from your company's outgoing > messages. Posting to a public email list instantly voids any possible > pretension towards confidentiality. It is absolutely useless verbiage > and I refuse to quote it here. If you're worried about dissemination of > emails, then everything should be GPG-encrypted so only those with your > key can read them. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks at nerd.com - > - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - > - - > - "People tell me I look at the dark side. That's not true. I have - > - the heart of a small boy......in a jar right here on my desk." - > - -- Stephen King - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com I am still confident of this: I will see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the living. Psalm 27:13 (NIV) From jdmfontz at yahoo.com Thu Sep 3 13:02:45 2009 From: jdmfontz at yahoo.com (Martin) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 06:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Using Yum on RedHat without a subscription Message-ID: <153264.16563.qm@web59202.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I have used Yum but needed to download the RPM first. It is kind of a pain. I guess the RH subscription fee relieves that. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 2, 2009, at 4:52 PM, "Robert Gonzales" wrote: Hello all, I am trying to use YUM on a RedHat enterprise 5 installation without a RedHat subscription. Can someone shed some light on this subject. Thank you Robert _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Fri Sep 4 06:40:30 2009 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (Karl Pearson) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 00:40:30 -0600 Subject: problem installing Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <4A9DE6D5.6090806@earthlink.net> References: <4A9DE6D5.6090806@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <95f46b3f2d918d003b57d264694ea16a.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> On Tue, September 1, 2009 9:30 pm, Buz Davis wrote: > Rick Stevens wrote: > >Have you tried looking at the other consoles (ALT-F2, ALT-F3, ALT-F4) > to > >see if there's some specific error when it croaks? > > Thanks for the suggestion, Rick. I was unaware of these. I have > checked them and found messages to the effect that the processor is not > supported. These actually referenced a processor later than my K6. > I then did some googling and found that apparently the first release of > Fedora 8 did have a problem with AMD processors. This was apparently > fixed in what some sites refer to as "respins", but they don't seem to > be available at this time. > > I went ahead and ordered a copy of CentOS and am mainly counting on > that. However I also bought an intel-based pentium system at the local > NearlyNew store thinking that perhaps I could install Fedora 8 on that. > I had to blow away a broken XP system (I now have perhaps the hottest > MS-DOS box around) and I am getting farther into the install before > problems crop up, but so far there have been problems. The CDs pass the > media test, but they always seem to fail somewhere in the install itself > with "probably invalid media". Perhaps the CD drive needs cleaning, or > perhaps the hard disk is flakey - I just haven't had a chance to check > in any detail. > > I haven't totally given up on F 8 but as I said I am waiting for CentOS > (which sounds like the system for me - I want something reasonably > up-to-date but not necessarily leading-edge). I'm not sure you can get any Fedora release that isn't "leading edge" because that's the primary purpose of the Fedora releases. If you are worried about running on older hardware, you might just download the live/install CD of Damn Small Linux and give it a go. It will run on most anything from a 386 with 8MB of ram, to fairly modern hardware. If you need Flash plugins, etc. you won't have much joy, however. The DSL dev's have never gotten it to work, and it's not on the docket as far as I know. > > Is it possible to copy the CD images to another computer on the network > and then start the install from the target machine referencing the > network as a source for the images ? I do have a network, but nothing > fancy (though I think the "new" pentium computer has a cdrw drive). > > Man, I hope you don't live anywhere near those brush fires! I know > there are lots of folks hurting and I hope you aren't among them! HTH, Karl Yes, get your mother out of there. My 88 year old mother wouldn't survive if she were that close. We've got smoke from fires here in Utah, and my asthmatic wife has trouble going outside some days. It's been a bit clearer lately, and rain is expected the next few days. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > --- Karl Pearson Karlp at ourldsfamily.com Owner/Administrator of the sites at http://ourldsfamily.com --- "To mess up your Linux PC, you have to really work at it; to mess up a microsoft PC you just have to work on it." --- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. --Benjamin Franklin --- From ricks at nerd.com Fri Sep 4 16:56:08 2009 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 09:56:08 -0700 Subject: problem installing Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <95f46b3f2d918d003b57d264694ea16a.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> References: <4A9DE6D5.6090806@earthlink.net> <95f46b3f2d918d003b57d264694ea16a.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <4AA146A8.6090604@nerd.com> Karl Pearson wrote: > On Tue, September 1, 2009 9:30 pm, Buz Davis wrote: >> Rick Stevens wrote: >> >Have you tried looking at the other consoles (ALT-F2, ALT-F3, ALT-F4) >> to >> >see if there's some specific error when it croaks? >> >> Thanks for the suggestion, Rick. I was unaware of these. I have >> checked them and found messages to the effect that the processor is not >> supported. These actually referenced a processor later than my K6. >> I then did some googling and found that apparently the first release of >> Fedora 8 did have a problem with AMD processors. This was apparently >> fixed in what some sites refer to as "respins", but they don't seem to >> be available at this time. Uhm, try F9? Download the LiveCD and try it. >> I went ahead and ordered a copy of CentOS and am mainly counting on >> that. However I also bought an intel-based pentium system at the local >> NearlyNew store thinking that perhaps I could install Fedora 8 on that. >> I had to blow away a broken XP system (I now have perhaps the hottest >> MS-DOS box around) and I am getting farther into the install before >> problems crop up, but so far there have been problems. The CDs pass the >> media test, but they always seem to fail somewhere in the install itself >> with "probably invalid media". Perhaps the CD drive needs cleaning, or >> perhaps the hard disk is flakey - I just haven't had a chance to check >> in any detail. >> >> I haven't totally given up on F 8 but as I said I am waiting for CentOS >> (which sounds like the system for me - I want something reasonably >> up-to-date but not necessarily leading-edge). > > I'm not sure you can get any Fedora release that isn't "leading edge" > because that's the primary purpose of the Fedora releases. > > If you are worried about running on older hardware, you might just > download the live/install CD of Damn Small Linux and give it a go. It > will run on most anything from a 386 with 8MB of ram, to fairly modern > hardware. If you need Flash plugins, etc. you won't have much joy, > however. The DSL dev's have never gotten it to work, and it's not on the > docket as far as I know. > >> Is it possible to copy the CD images to another computer on the network >> and then start the install from the target machine referencing the >> network as a source for the images ? I do have a network, but nothing >> fancy (though I think the "new" pentium computer has a cdrw drive). >> >> Man, I hope you don't live anywhere near those brush fires! I know >> there are lots of folks hurting and I hope you aren't among them! > > HTH, > > Karl > > Yes, get your mother out of there. My 88 year old mother wouldn't > survive if she were that close. We've got smoke from fires here in Utah, > and my asthmatic wife has trouble going outside some days. It's been a > bit clearer lately, and rain is expected the next few days. Mom's fine. This isn't her first rodeo with brushfires (some a LOT closer) and she won't leave. Besides, I'd rather get in a scrap with a wounded wolverine with PMS than try to get my Mom to do something she doesn't want to do. There'd be far less bloodshed with the wolverine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From micros50 at verizon.net Fri Sep 4 17:14:31 2009 From: micros50 at verizon.net (Micros50) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:14:31 -0400 Subject: problem installing Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <4AA146A8.6090604@nerd.com> References: <4A9DE6D5.6090806@earthlink.net> <95f46b3f2d918d003b57d264694ea16a.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> <4AA146A8.6090604@nerd.com> Message-ID: <1252084471.3701.11.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 09:56 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Karl Pearson wrote: > > On Tue, September 1, 2009 9:30 pm, Buz Davis wrote: > >> Rick Stevens wrote: > >> >Have you tried looking at the other consoles (ALT-F2, ALT-F3, ALT-F4) > >> to > >> >see if there's some specific error when it croaks? > >> > >> Thanks for the suggestion, Rick. I was unaware of these. I have > >> checked them and found messages to the effect that the processor is not > >> supported. These actually referenced a processor later than my K6. > >> I then did some googling and found that apparently the first release of > >> Fedora 8 did have a problem with AMD processors. This was apparently > >> fixed in what some sites refer to as "respins", but they don't seem to > >> be available at this time. > > Uhm, try F9? Download the LiveCD and try it. > Its probably a good idea to try and run the LiveCd version of almost any Fedora version first, in order to see if it plays nicely with your hardware. That way you get an idea how it will run on your processor, video card, etc. Then just install from the LiveCD and use yum to do the updates and/or add on whatever additional packages you require after the install. Ciao John From inode0 at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 16:22:51 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 11:22:51 -0500 Subject: Using Yum on RedHat without a subscription In-Reply-To: <0BE1A1370B797A489FE10B8B3D48EFEF013A6F12@exchange.earthboundmedia.com> References: <0BE1A1370B797A489FE10B8B3D48EFEF013A6F12@exchange.earthboundmedia.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Robert Gonzales wrote: > Hello all, > > I am? trying to use YUM on a RedHat enterprise 5 installation without a > RedHat subscription. > > Can someone shed some light on this subject. You likely need to configure the repository you want to use first. But honestly this generally isn't a very good idea to begin with as without a subscription you won't get important security and other errata from RHN. John From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Sun Sep 6 01:41:15 2009 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (Karl Pearson) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:41:15 -0600 Subject: problem installing Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <4AA146A8.6090604@nerd.com> References: <4A9DE6D5.6090806@earthlink.net> <95f46b3f2d918d003b57d264694ea16a.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> <4AA146A8.6090604@nerd.com> Message-ID: On Fri, September 4, 2009 10:56 am, Rick Stevens wrote: > Karl Pearson wrote: >> On Tue, September 1, 2009 9:30 pm, Buz Davis wrote: >>> Rick Stevens wrote: >>> >Have you tried looking at the other consoles (ALT-F2, ALT-F3, >>> ALT-F4) >>> to >>> >see if there's some specific error when it croaks? >>> >>> Thanks for the suggestion, Rick. I was unaware of these. I have >>> checked them and found messages to the effect that the processor is >>> not >>> supported. These actually referenced a processor later than my K6. >>> I then did some googling and found that apparently the first release >>> of >>> Fedora 8 did have a problem with AMD processors. This was apparently >>> fixed in what some sites refer to as "respins", but they don't seem >>> to >>> be available at this time. > > Uhm, try F9? Download the LiveCD and try it. > >>> I went ahead and ordered a copy of CentOS and am mainly counting on >>> that. However I also bought an intel-based pentium system at the >>> local >>> NearlyNew store thinking that perhaps I could install Fedora 8 on >>> that. >>> I had to blow away a broken XP system (I now have perhaps the hottest >>> MS-DOS box around) and I am getting farther into the install before >>> problems crop up, but so far there have been problems. The CDs pass >>> the >>> media test, but they always seem to fail somewhere in the install >>> itself >>> with "probably invalid media". Perhaps the CD drive needs cleaning, >>> or >>> perhaps the hard disk is flakey - I just haven't had a chance to >>> check >>> in any detail. >>> >>> I haven't totally given up on F 8 but as I said I am waiting for >>> CentOS >>> (which sounds like the system for me - I want something reasonably >>> up-to-date but not necessarily leading-edge). >> >> I'm not sure you can get any Fedora release that isn't "leading edge" >> because that's the primary purpose of the Fedora releases. >> >> If you are worried about running on older hardware, you might just >> download the live/install CD of Damn Small Linux and give it a go. It >> will run on most anything from a 386 with 8MB of ram, to fairly modern >> hardware. If you need Flash plugins, etc. you won't have much joy, >> however. The DSL dev's have never gotten it to work, and it's not on >> the >> docket as far as I know. >> >>> Is it possible to copy the CD images to another computer on the >>> network >>> and then start the install from the target machine referencing the >>> network as a source for the images ? I do have a network, but >>> nothing >>> fancy (though I think the "new" pentium computer has a cdrw drive). >>> >>> Man, I hope you don't live anywhere near those brush fires! I know >>> there are lots of folks hurting and I hope you aren't among them! >> >> HTH, >> >> Karl >> >> Yes, get your mother out of there. My 88 year old mother wouldn't >> survive if she were that close. We've got smoke from fires here in >> Utah, >> and my asthmatic wife has trouble going outside some days. It's been a >> bit clearer lately, and rain is expected the next few days. > > Mom's fine. This isn't her first rodeo with brushfires (some a LOT > closer) and she won't leave. Besides, I'd rather get in a scrap with a > wounded wolverine with PMS than try to get my Mom to do something she > doesn't want to do. There'd be far less bloodshed with the wolverine. And all the blood would be the wolverine's, not yours... KLP > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks at nerd.com - > - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - > - - > - Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > --- Karl Pearson Karlp at ourldsfamily.com Owner/Administrator of the sites at http://ourldsfamily.com --- "To mess up your Linux PC, you have to really work at it; to mess up a microsoft PC you just have to work on it." --- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. --Benjamin Franklin --- From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Sun Sep 6 01:44:26 2009 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (Karl Pearson) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:44:26 -0600 Subject: problem installing Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <1252084471.3701.11.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> References: <4A9DE6D5.6090806@earthlink.net> <95f46b3f2d918d003b57d264694ea16a.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> <4AA146A8.6090604@nerd.com> <1252084471.3701.11.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, September 4, 2009 11:14 am, Micros50 wrote: > On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 09:56 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: >> Karl Pearson wrote: >> > On Tue, September 1, 2009 9:30 pm, Buz Davis wrote: >> >> Rick Stevens wrote: >> >> >Have you tried looking at the other consoles (ALT-F2, ALT-F3, >> ALT-F4) >> >> to >> >> >see if there's some specific error when it croaks? >> >> >> >> Thanks for the suggestion, Rick. I was unaware of these. I have >> >> checked them and found messages to the effect that the processor is >> not >> >> supported. These actually referenced a processor later than my K6. >> >> I then did some googling and found that apparently the first >> release of >> >> Fedora 8 did have a problem with AMD processors. This was >> apparently >> >> fixed in what some sites refer to as "respins", but they don't seem >> to >> >> be available at this time. >> >> Uhm, try F9? Download the LiveCD and try it. >> > > Its probably a good idea to try and run the LiveCd version of almost any > Fedora version first, in order to see if it plays nicely with your > hardware. That way you get an idea how it will run on your processor, > video card, etc. Then just install from the LiveCD and use yum to do the > updates and/or add on whatever additional packages you require after the > install. > Frankly, I don't trust the live-cd to give a good forecast of how it will work if installed. I've had some distros run flawlessly after installation but the live CD had major issues with sound, network, video, etc. But, if the live CD runs flawlessly, you KNOW the install will be great. So the live CDs are a good way to go. HTH, Karl > Ciao > > John > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > --- Karl Pearson Karlp at ourldsfamily.com Owner/Administrator of the sites at http://ourldsfamily.com --- "To mess up your Linux PC, you have to really work at it; to mess up a microsoft PC you just have to work on it." --- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. --Benjamin Franklin --- From buzdavis at earthlink.net Mon Sep 14 19:07:37 2009 From: buzdavis at earthlink.net (Buz Davis) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:07:37 -0400 Subject: trouble installing CentOS 5.3 (after failing with Fedora 8) Message-ID: <4AAE9479.7030504@earthlink.net> I wasn't sure whether or not to use the old thread about trouble installing Fedora 8 or not, but decided to open a new thread. As the matters are loosely related let me briefly recapitulate the previous: ---background--- I have a small fixed ip network at home, running red hat 9 on two amd k6 500 Mhz boxes. One has 256 M memory and the other 320 M. They pretty much meet my needs, but lately I have detected that the internet sites I frequent are requiring some more modern software than I can run. At the time this started I had no way to write a CD, so ordered a set of Fedora 8 disks. I picked an older version in recognition of my older, limited hardware. It turned out that F8 had a problem with amd processors, which was fixed in a respin but the set I had was the original release and the respins don't seem to be available. During the process of attempting to get the install to work I bought yet another old system, but this one running an intel processor and with a drive capable of burning CD's. (I had to replace a broken Win XP with RH9 to get to it, but it did give me capacity to burn CDs). F8 wouldn't install on that box because of hard disk problems. At this point I determined to abandon attempts with F8 and ordered a copy of CentOS 5.3, the i386 version. --- end background --- The problem: The CentOS failed also. I could get the first screen up, offering choices of how to boot, and if I asked for memtest86 that would start. However, any other choice resulted in a reboot (generally during loading of vmlinux). Sometimes the disk wouldn't be recognized as bootable. I have convinced myself that the disks are OK and that I must need either better hardware or more memory (but this is the i386 version of CentOS 5.3) or some parameter on the install that I haven't tried (and I've tried about all I have found or remember). I would appreciate any help. Would it be considered bad behavior to also post this on the CentOS mailing list ? What I've done so far: At first I thought that the disk must be bad (couldn't even run a mediacheck) and emailed the vendor. Then it occurred to me that I could perhaps download and burn disk 1of6 and use that to get the install started. I reaized that the process would be a bit "iffy" on a box with hard-disk problems, and also I had never burned a cd, but googled around for instructions and plunged in. I downloaded an ios, checked it with md5sum and it was OK. I copied it to the "new" computer via NFS and checked it again: OK. I burned a CD using cdrecord, and that appeared to work. The result behaved much like the original had. I tried two more times, varying stuff that I thought might affect the burn, and always got the same sort of behavior. Finally I tried mounting each of the four disks 1of6 I now had and copied (from /dev/cdrom rather than /mnt/cdrom, so as to avoid separating out the files) each to a separate directory and compared them. All three that I burned were identical. The "store bought" disk was a little larger, but compared OK up to EOF (and I recall reading that mass-produced disks might be different in their padding). So I am convinced now that there is nothing wrong with either the original or recently burned disks 1of6 and the problem must either be requiring better/more hardware (but this is the i386 version of cent OS) or some parameter on the install I have never heard of. From bob at bobcatos.com Mon Sep 14 19:34:11 2009 From: bob at bobcatos.com (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:34:11 -0500 Subject: trouble installing CentOS 5.3 (after failing with Fedora 8) In-Reply-To: <4AAE9479.7030504@earthlink.net> References: <4AAE9479.7030504@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20090914193411.GD21393@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 03:07:37PM -0400, Buz Davis wrote: > I wasn't sure whether or not to use the old thread about trouble > installing Fedora 8 or not, but decided to open a new thread. As the > matters are loosely related let me briefly recapitulate the previous: > > ---background--- > I have a small fixed ip network at home, running red hat 9 on two > amd k6 500 Mhz boxes. One has 256 M memory and the other 320 M. They > pretty much meet my needs, but lately I have detected that the internet > sites > I frequent are requiring some more modern software than I can run. At > the time this started I had no way to write a CD, so ordered a set of > Fedora 8 disks. I picked an older version in recognition of my older, > limited hardware. It turned out that F8 had a problem with amd > processors, which was fixed in a respin but the set I had was the > original release and the respins don't seem to be available. During > the process of attempting to get the install to work I bought yet > another old system, but this one running an intel processor and with a > drive capable of burning CD's. (I had to replace a broken Win XP with > RH9 to get to it, but it did give me capacity to burn CDs). F8 wouldn't > install on that box because of hard disk problems. At this point I > determined to abandon attempts with F8 and ordered a copy of CentOS 5.3, > the i386 version. > > --- end background --- > > The problem: > The CentOS failed also. I could get the first screen up, offering > choices of how to boot, and if I asked for memtest86 that would start. > However, any other choice resulted in a reboot (generally during loading > of vmlinux). Sometimes the disk wouldn't be recognized as bootable. > I have convinced myself that the disks are OK and that I must need > either better hardware or more memory (but this is the i386 version of > CentOS 5.3) or some parameter on the install that I haven't tried > (and I've tried about all I have found or remember). I would appreciate > any help. Your K6 machines are classified as i586 architecture. They are a "super Pentium", but not enough to be classed as i686. I know. I still have one of those in retirement. I had the same problem on my antique IBM Thinkpad with a Pentium MMX 233 (remember those?). It also is classed as i586. Though I couldn't verify it in the docs or READMEs, I suspect that CentOS works only on i686 or better. Happily, Fedora 9 loaded just fine on it. Real Soon Now I need to upgrade it to F10 or F11. > Would it be considered bad behavior to also post this on the CentOS > mailing list ? Not at all. Go for it. > What I've done so far: > At first I thought that the disk must be bad (couldn't even run a > mediacheck) and emailed the vendor. Then it occurred to me that I could > perhaps download and burn disk 1of6 and use that to get the install > started. I reaized that the process would be a bit "iffy" on a box with > hard-disk problems, and also I had never burned a cd, but googled around > for instructions and plunged in. I downloaded an ios, checked it with > md5sum and it was OK. I copied it to the "new" computer via NFS and > checked it again: OK. I burned a CD using cdrecord, and that appeared > to work. The result behaved much like the original had. I tried two > more times, varying stuff that I thought might affect the burn, and > always got the same sort of behavior. Finally I tried mounting each of > the four disks 1of6 I now had and copied (from /dev/cdrom rather than > /mnt/cdrom, so as to avoid separating out the files) each to a separate > directory and compared them. All three that I burned were identical. > The "store bought" disk was a little larger, but compared OK up to EOF > (and I recall reading that mass-produced disks might be different in > their padding). So I am convinced now that there is nothing wrong with > either the original or recently burned disks 1of6 > and the problem must either be requiring better/more hardware (but this > is the i386 version of cent OS) or some parameter on the install I have > never heard of. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com After this, Jesus went out and saw a tax collector by the name of Levi sitting at his tax booth. "Follow me," Jesus said to him, and Levi got up, left everything and followed him. Luke 5:27-28 (NIV) From jayeola at gmail.com Mon Sep 14 23:56:23 2009 From: jayeola at gmail.com (john maclean) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:56:23 +0100 Subject: trouble installing CentOS 5.3 (after failing with Fedora 8) In-Reply-To: <20090914193411.GD21393@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <4AAE9479.7030504@earthlink.net> <20090914193411.GD21393@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <4170c1720909141656s628aba32od287675035dab786@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/14 Bob McClure Jr : > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 03:07:37PM -0400, Buz Davis wrote: >> I wasn't sure whether or not to use the old thread about trouble >> installing Fedora 8 or not, but decided to open a new thread. ?As the >> matters are loosely related let me briefly recapitulate the previous: >> >> ---background--- >> I have a small fixed ip network at home, running red hat 9 on two >> amd k6 500 Mhz boxes. ?One has 256 M memory and the other 320 M. ?They >> pretty much meet my needs, but lately I have detected that the internet >> sites >> I frequent are requiring some more modern software than I can run. At >> the time this started I had no way to write a CD, so ordered a set of >> Fedora 8 disks. ?I picked an older version in recognition of my older, >> limited hardware. ?It turned out that F8 had a problem with amd >> processors, which was fixed in a respin but the set I had was the >> original release and the respins don't seem to be available. ?During >> the process of attempting to get the install to work I bought yet >> another old system, but this one running an intel processor and with a >> drive capable of burning CD's. ?(I had to replace a broken Win XP with >> RH9 to get to it, but it did give me capacity to burn CDs). ?F8 wouldn't >> install on that box because of hard disk problems. ?At this point I >> determined to abandon attempts with F8 and ordered a copy of CentOS 5.3, >> the i386 version. >> >> --- end background --- >> >> The problem: >> The CentOS failed also. ?I could get the first screen up, offering >> choices of how to boot, ?and if I asked for memtest86 that would start. >> However, any other choice resulted in a reboot (generally during loading >> of vmlinux). ?Sometimes the disk wouldn't be recognized as bootable. >> I have convinced myself that the disks are OK and that I must need >> either better hardware or more memory (but this is the i386 version of >> CentOS 5.3) or some parameter on the install that I haven't tried >> (and I've tried about all I have found or remember). ?I would appreciate >> any help. > > Your K6 machines are classified as i586 architecture. ?They are a > "super Pentium", but not enough to be classed as i686. ?I know. ?I > still have one of those in retirement. > > I had the same problem on my antique IBM Thinkpad with a Pentium MMX > 233 (remember those?). ?It also is classed as i586. ?Though I couldn't > verify it in the docs or READMEs, I suspect that CentOS works only on > i686 or better. ?Happily, Fedora 9 loaded just fine on it. ?Real Soon > Now I need to upgrade it to F10 or F11. > >> Would it be considered bad behavior to also post this on the CentOS >> mailing list ? > > Not at all. ?Go for it. > >> What I've done so far: >> At first I thought that the disk must be bad (couldn't even run a >> mediacheck) and emailed the vendor. ?Then it occurred to me that I could >> perhaps download and burn disk 1of6 and use that to get the install >> started. ?I reaized that the process would be a bit "iffy" on a box with >> hard-disk problems, and also I had never burned a cd, but googled around >> for instructions and plunged in. ?I downloaded an ios, checked it with >> md5sum and it was OK. ?I copied it to the "new" computer via NFS and >> checked it again: OK. ?I burned a CD using cdrecord, and that appeared >> to work. ?The result behaved much like the original had. ?I tried two >> more times, varying stuff that I thought might affect the burn, and >> always got the same sort of behavior. ?Finally I tried mounting each of >> the four disks 1of6 I now had and copied (from /dev/cdrom rather than >> /mnt/cdrom, so as to avoid separating out the files) each to a separate >> directory and compared them. ?All three that I burned were identical. >> The "store bought" disk was a little larger, but compared OK up to EOF >> (and I recall reading that mass-produced disks might be different in >> their padding). ?So I am convinced now that there is nothing wrong with >> either the original or recently burned disks 1of6 >> and the problem must either be requiring better/more hardware (but this >> is the i386 version of cent OS) or some parameter on the install I have >> never heard of. > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. ? ? ? ? ? ? Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > bob at bobcatos.com ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.bobcatos.com > After this, Jesus went out and saw a tax collector by the name of Levi > sitting at his tax booth. "Follow me," Jesus said to him, and Levi got > up, left everything and followed him. ?Luke 5:27-28 (NIV) > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > You may want to consider a distro more suited to older hardware of boxes with lower specs. There are a few that come to mind but I'd start with http://distrowatch.com as there's bound to be "something" that's right for you. -- John Maclean 07739 171 531 MSc (DIC) Timezone: GMT From ramin.shariatian at ineo.com Tue Sep 15 02:00:53 2009 From: ramin.shariatian at ineo.com (ramin.shariatian at ineo.com) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:00:53 +0200 Subject: Ramin SHARIATIAN est absent(e). Message-ID: Je serai absent(e) ? partir du 07/09/2009 de retour le 28/09/2009. Je r?pondrai ? votre message d?s mon retour. From Douglas.Chen at micrel.com Tue Sep 15 20:15:10 2009 From: Douglas.Chen at micrel.com (Chen, Douglas) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:15:10 -0700 Subject: How can I upgrade kernel on a Redhat Linux machine Message-ID: Hi, I have installed a CAD tool and it complains when launched that the kernel and glibc on this Redhat Linux machine is too old and need to be upgraded. I need help to figure out how to upgrade both of them. This is the current configuration: Redhat Enterprise Linux WS release 4 (Nahant) Kernel 2.6.9-5.ELsmp glibc 2.25 I need to upgrade at least to Kernel 2.6.9-42.EL and glibc 2.3.4 Please kindly let me know where I can download the kernel and glibc and how I can upgrade them. Also, will the kernel upgrade affect the software currently installed and running without problem? Do I need to compile the new kernel? Thank you very much for your assistance in advance. Douglas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is the current configuration: Redhat Enterprise Linux WS release 4 (Nahant) Kernel 2.6.9-5.ELsmp glibc 2.25 I need to upgrade at least to Kernel 2.6.9-42.EL and glibc 2.3.4 Please kindly let me know where I can download the kernel and glibc and how I can upgrade them. Also, will the kernel upgrade affect the software currently installed and running without problem? Do I need to compile the new kernel? Thank you very much for your assistance in advance. Douglas _________________________________________________________________ Share your memories online with anyone you want. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/products/photos-share.aspx?tab=1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ricks at nerd.com Wed Sep 16 18:18:18 2009 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:18:18 -0700 Subject: How can I upgrade kernel on a Redhat Linux machine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AB12BEA.2070005@nerd.com> Chen, Douglas wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed a CAD tool and it complains when launched that the > kernel and glibc on this Redhat Linux machine is too old and need to be > upgraded. I need help to figure out how to upgrade both of them. > > This is the current configuration: Redhat Enterprise Linux WS release 4 > (Nahant) > Kernel 2.6.9-5.ELsmp > glibc 2.25 > > I need to upgrade at least to Kernel 2.6.9-42.EL and glibc 2.3.4 > > Please kindly let me know where I can download the kernel and glibc and > how I can upgrade them. Also, will the kernel upgrade affect the > software currently installed and running without problem? Do I need to > compile the new kernel? > > Thank you very much for your assistance in advance. If your entitlements are up to date, you should be able to update to the latest RPMs simply by entering "up2date" or (using the Gnome desktop) go to the "System" menu, select "Adminstration" and then "Update System" (I think that's where it is...RHEL/WS4 is pretty damned old). If your hardware is 686 or better, you might want to think about upgrading to RHEL5 or CentOS 5. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Huked on foniks reely wurked for me! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Douglas.Chen at micrel.com Wed Sep 16 23:31:49 2009 From: Douglas.Chen at micrel.com (Chen, Douglas) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:31:49 -0700 Subject: How can I upgrade kernel on a Redhat Linux machine In-Reply-To: <4AB12BEA.2070005@nerd.com> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:18 AM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: How can I upgrade kernel on a Redhat Linux machine Chen, Douglas wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed a CAD tool and it complains when launched that the > kernel and glibc on this Redhat Linux machine is too old and need to > be upgraded. I need help to figure out how to upgrade both of them. > > This is the current configuration: Redhat Enterprise Linux WS release > 4 > (Nahant) > Kernel 2.6.9-5.ELsmp > glibc 2.25 > > I need to upgrade at least to Kernel 2.6.9-42.EL and glibc 2.3.4 > > Please kindly let me know where I can download the kernel and glibc > and how I can upgrade them. Also, will the kernel upgrade affect the > software currently installed and running without problem? Do I need to > compile the new kernel? > > Thank you very much for your assistance in advance. If your entitlements are up to date, you should be able to update to the latest RPMs simply by entering "up2date" or (using the Gnome desktop) go to the "System" menu, select "Adminstration" and then "Update System" (I think that's where it is...RHEL/WS4 is pretty damned old). If your hardware is 686 or better, you might want to think about upgrading to RHEL5 or CentOS 5. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Huked on foniks reely wurked for me! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The reason why we stick with this old version of OS is because our CAD tools do not evolve as fast as OS. They will not run on the newer OS. I did try to use command 'up2date' but failed since our system is out of maintenance contract; I believe. Can you please enlighten me with 1. where to download kernel and glibc? There are so many sites that I am confused which one is the legit one. 2. what is the proper procedure to install them? I really can afford to screw up on these production machines. Your help is greatly appreciated. Douglas From ntoughe at hotmail.com Thu Sep 17 08:35:23 2009 From: ntoughe at hotmail.com (NTOUGHE GUY-SERGE) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:35:23 +0000 Subject: How can I upgrade kernel on a Redhat Linux machine In-Reply-To: References: <4AB12BEA.2070005@nerd.com> Message-ID: HI, Try on the following link : http://rpm.pbone.net/, you'l certainly find the solution to your problem ntoughe at hotmail.com > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:31:49 -0700 > From: Douglas.Chen at micrel.com > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Subject: RE: How can I upgrade kernel on a Redhat Linux machine > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Stevens > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:18 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: How can I upgrade kernel on a Redhat Linux machine > > Chen, Douglas wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have installed a CAD tool and it complains when launched that the > > kernel and glibc on this Redhat Linux machine is too old and need to > > be upgraded. I need help to figure out how to upgrade both of them. > > > > This is the current configuration: Redhat Enterprise Linux WS release > > 4 > > (Nahant) > > Kernel 2.6.9-5.ELsmp > > glibc 2.25 > > > > I need to upgrade at least to Kernel 2.6.9-42.EL and glibc 2.3.4 > > > > Please kindly let me know where I can download the kernel and glibc > > and how I can upgrade them. Also, will the kernel upgrade affect the > > software currently installed and running without problem? Do I need to > > > compile the new kernel? > > > > Thank you very much for your assistance in advance. > > If your entitlements are up to date, you should be able to update to the > latest RPMs simply by entering "up2date" or (using the Gnome desktop) go > to the "System" menu, select "Adminstration" and then "Update System" (I > think that's where it is...RHEL/WS4 is pretty damned old). > > If your hardware is 686 or better, you might want to think about > upgrading to RHEL5 or CentOS 5. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks at nerd.com - > - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - > - - > - Huked on foniks reely wurked for me! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The reason why we stick with this old version of OS is because our CAD > tools do not evolve as fast as OS. They will not run on the newer OS. > > I did try to use command 'up2date' but failed since our system is out of > maintenance contract; I believe. > > Can you please enlighten me with > 1. where to download kernel and glibc? There are so many sites that I am > confused which one is the legit one. > 2. what is the proper procedure to install them? I really can afford to > screw up on these production machines. > > Your help is greatly appreciated. > > Douglas > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe _________________________________________________________________ Drag n? drop?Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live? 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I need help to figure out how to upgrade both of them. >> >> This is the current configuration: Redhat Enterprise Linux WS release >> 4 >> (Nahant) >> Kernel 2.6.9-5.ELsmp >> glibc 2.25 >> >> I need to upgrade at least to Kernel 2.6.9-42.EL and glibc 2.3.4 >> >> Please kindly let me know where I can download the kernel and glibc >> and how I can upgrade them. Also, will the kernel upgrade affect the >> software currently installed and running without problem? Do I need to > >> compile the new kernel? >> >> Thank you very much for your assistance in advance. > > If your entitlements are up to date, you should be able to update to the > latest RPMs simply by entering "up2date" or (using the Gnome desktop) go > to the "System" menu, select "Adminstration" and then "Update System" (I > think that's where it is...RHEL/WS4 is pretty damned old). > > If your hardware is 686 or better, you might want to think about > upgrading to RHEL5 or CentOS 5. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks at nerd.com - > - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - > - - > - Huked on foniks reely wurked for me! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The reason why we stick with this old version of OS is because our CAD > tools do not evolve as fast as OS. They will not run on the newer OS. > > I did try to use command 'up2date' but failed since our system is out of > maintenance contract; I believe. > > Can you please enlighten me with > 1. where to download kernel and glibc? There are so many sites that I am > confused which one is the legit one. > 2. what is the proper procedure to install them? I really can afford to > screw up on these production machines. > > Your help is greatly appreciated. You can try the CentOS repositories. CentOS is built from the Red Hat source RPMs (with a bit of twiddling to remove the Red Hat branding, logos, etc.): http://www.centos.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - When in doubt, mumble. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From mccarty at yournetguard.com Thu Sep 24 16:29:48 2009 From: mccarty at yournetguard.com (Ronald McCarty) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:29:48 -0500 Subject: yum-updates versus rhnsd Message-ID: Could anyone point me to a good resource on the differences / uses of yum-updates vs. rhnsd when running Red Hat Enterprise 5? It appears to be quite a bit of overlap; however, I assume there may be reasons they both run by default... Thanks, --ron From ricks at nerd.com Thu Sep 24 21:34:19 2009 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:34:19 -0700 Subject: yum-updates versus rhnsd In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4ABBE5DB.3020507@nerd.com> Ronald McCarty wrote: > Could anyone point me to a good resource on the differences / uses of > yum-updates vs. rhnsd when running Red Hat Enterprise 5? > > It appears to be quite a bit of overlap; however, I assume there may be > reasons they both run by default... Not sure. rhnsd (a.k.a up2date) requires an "entitlement" (or subscription) to access the repository for its content. yum (and its various permutations) simply requires the URL to a repository (typically a public repo) and doesn't require an entitlement. Why do both run? My guess is that rhnsd is the primary beast and picks up Red Hat-specific things (kernels, Cluster Suite stuff, etc.), but some of the other utilities that're installed as part of RHEL may use public yum repositories. This is just my educated guess. I haven't run RHEL for quite a while. We use CentOS or Fedora here. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - If this is the first day of the rest of my life... - - I'm in BIG trouble! - ----------------------------------------------------------------------