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This is a discussion I'm party to between the Hyper-V Dev and CERN
regarding Keystone LDAP usage to access their Active Directory
structure.<br>
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Thought some of you might be interested.<br>
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<td>RE: LDAP/AD</td>
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<td>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:59:56 +0000</td>
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<td>Peter Pouliot <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ppouliot@microsoft.com"><ppouliot@microsoft.com></a></td>
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<td>Tim Bell <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Tim.Bell@cern.ch"><Tim.Bell@cern.ch></a>, "Adam Young
(<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ayoung@redhat.com">ayoung@redhat.com</a>)" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ayoung@redhat.com"><ayoung@redhat.com></a></td>
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<td>John Dickinson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:me@not.mn"><me@not.mn></a>, Joseph Heck
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:heckj@mac.com"><heckj@mac.com></a>, Jose Castro Leon
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jose.castro.leon@cern.ch"><jose.castro.leon@cern.ch></a></td>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Tim,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
Thanks for the information. I’m in agreement on LDAP and
wasn’t suggesting Native AD support. However being able to
utilize the existing information is key.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">P<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Tim Bell [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:Tim.Bell@cern.ch">mailto:Tim.Bell@cern.ch</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 11, 2012 3:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Peter Pouliot; Adam Young (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ayoung@redhat.com">ayoung@redhat.com</a>)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> John Dickinson; Joseph Heck; Jose Castro Leon<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: LDAP/AD <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB">Peter,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB">From
CERN’s first quick analysis in the past week or so, AD
integration can be done within the framework of a flexible
OpenLDAP driver. We may need some configuration flags, some
mapping from roles to group members and some recommendations
for AD administrators to index certain parts of the tree (we
have groups with 1,000s of members and 48,000 users in our
AD).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB">Given
the good AD/LDAP built in compatibility, we can make things
generic if we find the right schema options. I do not think
we’ve the critical mass currently for AD-only support. I’d
much rather have a good LDAP support and a recommendation on
how to provide an AD view which is performant and compatible
for both OpenLDAP and AD backends.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB">A
few beers, a white board, the key guys and we can sort this
out …
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB">Tim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Peter Pouliot
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:[mailto:ppouliot@microsoft.com]">[mailto:ppouliot@microsoft.com]</a>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 September 2012 21:03<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim Bell; Adam Young (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ayoung@redhat.com">ayoung@redhat.com</a>)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> John Dickinson; Joseph Heck<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Hyper-V Meeting Minutes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Tim,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I agree on
not having fragmentation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">John had
approached me a while back around some AD discussion and
I know I had some a conversation with Joe somewhere along
the lines at the April summit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">John and Joe,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
I figured this is a great point to bring you both in. I
know each of you also have showed some interest in
advancing the Active Directory integration.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">It’s probably
a great time to try to organize our efforts .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">What do you
both think about Tim’s suggestion of a Bof Slot on the
Topic in SD?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">pp<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Tim Bell
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:[mailto:Tim.Bell@cern.ch]">[mailto:Tim.Bell@cern.ch]</a>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 11, 2012 2:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Peter Pouliot; Adam Young (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ayoung@redhat.com">ayoung@redhat.com</a>)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Hyper-V Meeting Minutes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB">I’ve
already got the CERN troops voting for the Hyper-V and
Redhat talks
</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">J</span><span style="color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB">I’ll
certainly give some prominence to the work with Microsoft
and Redhat in the CERN user story too, so your votes are
welcome…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB">In
any case, we should get a BoF slot for OpenLDAP/AD
integration .. it does not need a massive investment but
we should avoid fragmentation….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB">We’re
also trying to do some PKI testing too …. Another hot
topic for us….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB">Ti<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Peter Pouliot
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:[mailto:ppouliot@microsoft.com]">[mailto:ppouliot@microsoft.com]</a>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 September 2012 19:57<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim Bell; Adam Young (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ayoung@redhat.com">ayoung@redhat.com</a>)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Hyper-V Meeting Minutes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Tim,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
Awesome! We’d love to make sure everyone interested
meets up at the summit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’m looking
forward to seeing what you have done already.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
Adam and I have been talking about this for a while.
(We actually work close by to each other in Cambridge
MA).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’ve been
trying to get more free cycles to help w/ the testing
and potentially help with integration to use other AD
object properties.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">We should
definitely sync up together and get a good understanding
of your needs at CERN. I should be able to guide some
of the momentum towards the work internally if the
external interest is there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">PS. Votes
for Hyper-V Presentations help the cause.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span
style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">p<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Tim Bell
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:[mailto:Tim.Bell@cern.ch]">[mailto:Tim.Bell@cern.ch]</a>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 11, 2012 1:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Peter Pouliot; Adam Young (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ayoung@redhat.com">ayoung@redhat.com</a>)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> FW: Hyper-V Meeting Minutes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">Peter/Adam,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">Pleased to see that the AD integration work
is of interest. I’ve asked Jose to brief you further on
the thoughts and options.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">For the summit, Jose, Belmiro and I will be
there. I’ve got some management board related meetings
but I’d be delighted to get together with you both and
discuss further integration work of common interest.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">Tim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Peter Pouliot
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:[mailto:ppouliot@microsoft.com]">[mailto:ppouliot@microsoft.com]</a>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 September 2012 17:56<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [openstack-dev] Hyper-V Meeting
Minutes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Peter J. Pouliot, CISSP<o:p></o:p></p>
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