<html><body><div style="font-family: Courier, Courier New, mono; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hello,</div><div><br></div><div>looking deeper in the problem brought me to this:</div><div><br></div><div>The kickstart gets the error, when there is a duplicate package. For more information, here is my Channel-Structure:</div><div><br></div><div><div>RHEL 6 - x86_64</div><div> |</div><div> |-- Centos 6 - x86_64</div><div> |-- Centos 6 - x86_64 - Updates</div><div> ...</div><div> |-- ScientificLinux 6 - x86_64</div><div> |-- ScientificLinux 6 - x86_64 - Security</div><div> ...</div><div> |-- EPEL 6 - x86_64</div><div> ...</div></div><div>RHEL 7 - x86_64</div><div> |</div><div> |-- Centos 7 - x86_64</div><div> |-- Centos 7 - x86_64 - Updates</div><div> ...</div><div> |-- ScientificLinux 7 - x86_64</div><div> |-- ScientificLinux 7 - x86_64 - Security</div><div> ...</div><div><div><div> |-- EPEL 7 - x86_64</div><div> ...</div></div></div><div><br></div><div> </div><div>There is no repo linked to the parent channels. Every Child-Channel has exactly one repo linked to it to have a better overview.</div><div><br></div><div>Every failing package is identically linked in two channels: "ScientificLinux 7 - x86_64" and "Centos 7 - x86_64". After I delete the package from one channel, the kickstart goes on (until another failing package). I could waste time and clean out all duplicates, but after a reposync (every day at 6pm) the packages will be existent again.</div><div><br></div><div>Any ideas? </div><div><br></div><div>Is my structure appropriate or do I have to change it for a working Kickstart?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>kind regards,</div><div>Philipp</div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Philipp Wehling" <philipp.wehling@megatel.de><br><b>To: </b>spacewalk-list@redhat.com<br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, November 17, 2015 8:48:23 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Spacewalk-list] Kickstarting CentOS<br><div><br></div><div style="font-family: Courier, Courier New, mono; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hello,<br></div><div><br></div><div>please see the snippet of my kickstart file:</div><div><br></div><div><pre style="box-sizing: border-box; overflow: scroll; font-family: Menlo, Monaco, Consolas, 'Courier New', monospace; font-size: 12px; padding: 10px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 10.5px; line-height: 1.66667; word-break: break-all; word-wrap: break-word; color: #404040; border: 1px solid #cccccc; border-radius: 1px; width: 800px; height: 800px; background-color: #f5f5f5;"># Kickstart config file generated by Spacewalk Config Management # Profile Label : CentOS7-x86_64-ks # Date Created : 2015-11-16 11:37:49.854506 install text url --url http://spacewalk.domain.de/ks/dist/org/1/CentOS7-x86_64-dist lang en_US keyboard de zerombr clearpart --all bootloader --location mbr timezone Europe/Berlin auth --enableshadow --passalgo=sha256 rootpw --iscrypted ... selinux --enforcing reboot skipx repo --name=centos7-x86_64-extra --baseurl=http://spacewalk.domain.de/ks/dist/child/centos7-x86_64-extra/CentOS7-x86_64-dist repo --name=centos7-x86_64-updates --baseurl=http://spacewalk.domain.de/ks/dist/child/centos7-x86_64-updates/CentOS7-x86_64-dist repo --name=centos7-x86_64 --baseurl=http://spacewalk.domain.de/ks/dist/child/centos7-x86_64/CentOS7-x86_64-dist repo --name=centos7-x86_64-centosplus --baseurl=http://spacewalk.domain.de/ks/dist/child/centos7-x86_64-centosplus/CentOS7-x86_64-dist repo --name=spacewalkclient-x86_64-rhel7 --baseurl=http://spacewalk.domain.de/ks/dist/child/spacewalkclient-x86_64-rhel7/CentOS7-x86_64-dist repo --name=epel7-x86_64 --baseurl=http://spacewalk.domain.de/ks/dist/child/epel7-x86_64/CentOS7-x86_64-dist autopart --type=lvm %packages @ Base perl wget rhn-setup rhn-check rhn-client-tools %end %pre</pre></div><div><br></div><div>I cant see any dependency. <span style="font-size: 12pt;">But IF there is a dependency to vim, why does it fail to install?</span></div><div><br></div><div>I currently running Version 2.3 - I thought maybe the update would help kickstarting CentOS.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>kind regards,</div><div>Philipp</div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Jeffery Kalchik" <JDKalchik@landolakes.com><br><b>To: </b>spacewalk-list@redhat.com<br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, November 16, 2015 7:55:15 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Spacewalk-list] Kickstarting CentOS<br><div><br></div> <style></style> <div class="WordSection1"> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Packages will get auto-selected when they’re listed a prerequisites or requirements of requested packages. A package that you’re installing has vim as a dependency somewhere in its prerequisites tree.</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">As far as the rest of it goes, I’m not sure where I’d start. Is this on your existing 2.3 server? Or on your 2.4 server? (I see you’ve got another message in about upgrades.)</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jeff Kalchik</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Systems Engineering</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Land O’Lakes</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span></p> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com [mailto:spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Philipp Wehling<br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 16, 2015 5:24 AM<br> <b>To:</b> spacewalk-list@redhat.com<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Spacewalk-list] Kickstarting CentOS</span></p> </div> </div> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">Hello,</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">please see the logs attached.</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">Im clueless ...</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">kind regards,</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">Philipp</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> <hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" id="zwchr"> </span></div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">"Philipp Wehling" <<a href="mailto:philipp.wehling@megatel.de" target="_blank">philipp.wehling@megatel.de</a>><br> <b>To: </b><a href="mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com" target="_blank">spacewalk-list@redhat.com</a><br> <b>Sent: </b>Monday, November 16, 2015 9:26:09 AM<br> <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Spacewalk-list] Kickstarting CentOS</span></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">Hello,</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">the idea with the network tracing app was already in my mind. Before doing that, I checked a working kickstart of ScientificLinux 6/7. There it is the same: The packages are downloaded partially at first. After that, they are downloaded and installed completly.</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">Facing the problem, I have no idea, why the kickstart-profile wants to install vim. There is no configuration to do that. I will get the logs and provide them to you for analysis soon.</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">kind regards,</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">Philipp</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> <hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" id="zwchr"> </span></div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">"Jeffery Kalchik" <<a href="mailto:JDKalchik@landolakes.com" target="_blank">JDKalchik@landolakes.com</a>><br> <b>To: </b><a href="mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com" target="_blank">spacewalk-list@redhat.com</a><br> <b>Sent: </b>Saturday, November 14, 2015 7:13:26 PM<br> <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Spacewalk-list] Kickstarting CentOS</span></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Whether or not the package is essential doesn’t matter. Any package in the configured channels or repositories should be usable.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I’ve had issues where multiple packages exist that are named identically (different channels,) but compiled or built from different sources, leading to different checksums. My only workaround for this particular problem is to identify those package name collisions, and remove the packages that I do not want to use.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Philipp, your issue looks a bit different. The error you’re getting seems like a network transmission issue. I’d be tempted to fire up wireshark (or some other network tracing app) to check traffic in/out of your Spacewalk server. It’d be interesting to see what differences exist in the network captures between the anaconda download and the wget.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jeff Kalchik</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Systems Engineering</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Land O’Lakes</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> <a href="mailto:spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com" target="_blank">spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com</a> [<a href="mailto:spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com" target="_blank">mailto:spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Deepjoy Choudhury<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 13, 2015 8:40 AM<br> <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com" target="_blank">spacewalk-list@redhat.com</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Spacewalk-list] Kickstarting CentOS</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> </div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Please try excluding this package in the Kickstart.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Vim is not an essential package.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Br</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Deepjoy</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"> <a href="mailto:spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com" target="_blank">spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com</a> [<a href="mailto:spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com" target="_blank">mailto:spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Philipp Wehling<br> <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 12, 2015 9:23 PM<br> <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com" target="_blank">spacewalk-list@redhat.com</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> [Spacewalk-list] Kickstarting CentOS</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> </div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black"> </span></p> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">Hello,</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">I have problems kickstarting CentOS 6/7.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">I already googled and found this discussion:</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"><a href="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.spacewalk.user/12920" target="_blank">http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.spacewalk.user/12920</a></span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">I have got the same problems.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">During the kickstarting, anaconda tries to get the vim-package:</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">192.168.0.241 - - [12/Nov/2015:16:30:45 +0100] "GET /ks/dist/org/1/CentOS7-x86_64-dist/Packages/vim-common-7.4.160-1.el7.x86_64.rpm HTTP/1.1" 206 252040 "-" "urlgrabber/3.10 yum/3.4.3"</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">If I do a wget to the same url (from the same host):</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">192.168.0.241 - - [12/Nov/2015:16:38:54 +0100] "GET /ks/dist/org/1/CentOS7-x86_64-dist/Packages/vim-common-7.4.160-1.el7.x86_64.rpm HTTP/1.1" 200 6211720 "-" "Wget/1.14 (linux-gnu)"</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">In packaging.log I can see following errors:</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">error populating transaction after 10 retries: failure: Packages/vim-common...rpm from anaconda: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"><a href="http://%3cURL%3e/Packages/vim-common...rpm:" target="_blank">http://<URL>/Packages/vim-common...rpm:</a> [Errno -1] Header is not complete.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">The solution mentioned above isnt working for me.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">Are there any other ideas?</span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" 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