<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Two points I'll make while I'm on leave and not really checking email. :)</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"> </div><div id="AppleMailSignature">1. There is no purposeful delay between ULN and the public repos, beyond the sync process to our Akamai mirrors. In practice, this can be between 1-4 hours.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"> </div><div id="AppleMailSignature">2. ULN is fully supported with Spacewalk, both in our build and upstream. We document specifically how to create ULN-based repos and how to provide ULN credentials for the sync process. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"> </div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Other than that, ULN has additional channels that are not available on <a href="http://yum.oracle.com">yum.oracle.com</a>. Some contain non Open Source software. I usually advocate a mix of both, depending on your needs, as <a href="http://yum.oracle.com">yum.oracle.com</a> can be faster (as it's served by Akamai), but ULN can be more efficient by using the base/patch channel combos.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"> </div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Shameless plug: I'm doing a hands-on lab at OpenWorld 2016 that covers all this on Spacewalk 2.4. If you're attending OpenWorld, you should come check it out. :)</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"> Sent from my iPad</div><div> On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:48 PM, Paul Robert Marino <<a href="mailto:prmarino1@gmail.com">prmarino1@gmail.com</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Well that's part of the support thing. they put a delay on the updating to the public repos.<div>on a side note since oracle considers spacewalk to be its official package management tool im willing to bet there is a way to get it to work with ULN just like how you can get the official red Hat channels to sync to spacewalk even though its unsupported.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 3:52 PM, NZ Asparona Technical Support (NZ - Auckland) <<a href="mailto:technical.support@asparona.com" target="_blank">technical.support@asparona.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-NZ" link="blue" vlink="purple"> <div> Thanks for an interesting response, However the question was more technical rather legislative, assuming that we have support and have a choice either to use ULN or Yum. Found that clarification by Avi: <a href="https://community.oracle.com/docs/DOC-921379" target="_blank">https://community.oracle.com/docs/DOC-921379</a> … Some repository content, such as content for the update-level specific patch is available from ULN but not from the Oracle public yum server, while other repository content, such as content for the Spacewalk Client and Spacewalk Server channels, can be populated from the Oracle public yum server but not from ULN… From: <a href="mailto:spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com" target="_blank">spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com" target="_blank">spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com</a>] On Behalf Of Avi Miller Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:55 AM To: <a href="mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com" target="_blank">spacewalk-list@redhat.com</a> Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] base patch or latest … Some more general advice: use ULN only for the base/patch channels (and the non-open Oracle channels like Ksplice, when you get access to them). The rest of the channels you should sync from <a href="http://yum.oracle.com" target="_blank">yum.oracle.com</a> because it's hosted on the Akamai CDN and is much, much faster. The actual content is identical and can be validated via GPG signatures… <div> Thanks, Dmitry </div> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"> From: <a href="mailto:spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com" target="_blank">spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com" target="_blank">spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com</a>] On Behalf Of <a href="mailto:prmarino1@gmail.com" target="_blank">prmarino1@gmail.com</a> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 6:54 PM To: NZ Asparona Technical Support (NZ - Auckland); <a href="mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com" target="_blank">spacewalk-list@redhat.com</a> Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] FW: What does ULN gives you that standard oracle public yum doesn't </div> </div><div><div class="h5"> <div> This is not a spacewalk related subject but I will answer it any way. </div> <div> Indemification‎! </div> <div> In other words if your business has any SOX or ‎PCI requirements and you use oracle linux you need to pay them for support for the required servers. </div> <div> ‎The reason is that unless you can reasonably prove that you employ developers for every package on all of the boxes that fall under those requirements then you must pay for support. To fully understand the reasons for this you need to understand what a lot of purposely vague legal phrases actually mean, but in short it means you need proof you pay some one to ensure you're operating system is secure and if a new vulnerability is doscovered at your company then you can get some one qualified to fix it in a resonable amount of time. </div> <div> </div> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width:100.0%;background:white;border-spacing:0px"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt;font-size:initial;text-align:initial"> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"> <div> From: NZ Asparona Technical Support (NZ - Auckland) </div> <div> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 23:59 </div> <div> To: <a href="mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com" target="_blank">spacewalk-list@redhat.com</a> </div> <div> Reply To: <a href="mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com" target="_blank">spacewalk-list@redhat.com</a> </div> <div> Subject: [Spacewalk-list] FW: What does ULN gives you that standard oracle public yum doesn't </div> </div> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <div> Hi guys, The question I was trying to answer configuring spacewalk is: What does Oracle ULN gives you that standard oracle public yum doesn't? 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