From seth at integratedsolutions.org Thu Apr 1 00:45:19 2004 From: seth at integratedsolutions.org (Seth Bardash) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:45:19 -0700 Subject: FC1-test-1.91-x84_64 Message-ID: <00f701c41782$9eccb660$0300a8c0@dmp1800> FYI: KDE is useless and the mouse events are not handled properly in either gnome nor KDE. Most functions in KDE do not work. This holds true on both the x86_64 version and the ia32 versions of the 1.91 test release. Not quite ready for prime time..... Seth Bardash Integrated Solutions and Systems 1510 North Gate Road Colorado Springs, CO 80921 http://www.integratedsolutions.org Phone: 719-495-5866 Fax: 719-495-5870 Supplier of AMD, Intel and SPARC Servers and Systems running Windows, Linux, Solaris and VxWorks. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.643 / Virus Database: 411 - Release Date: 3/25/2004 From mharris at redhat.com Thu Apr 1 06:51:42 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 01:51:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: FC1-test-1.91-x84_64 In-Reply-To: <00f701c41782$9eccb660$0300a8c0@dmp1800> References: <00f701c41782$9eccb660$0300a8c0@dmp1800> Message-ID: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Seth Bardash wrote: >KDE is useless and the mouse events are not handled properly in >either gnome nor KDE. > >Most functions in KDE do not work. This holds true on both the >x86_64 version and the ia32 versions of the 1.91 test release. > >Not quite ready for prime time..... That's not too bad though, as we haven't released it for prime time yet. ;o) Your above report requires much more information for us to be able to investigate the problems you are experiencing and try to fix them however. Please file bug reports in bugzilla of one report per bug, including the full details of the problem you experienced, detailed steps of how to reproduce the issue, what went wrong, etc. Once we have your bug report(s) in bugzilla with this detailed information, we can investigate the issues and explore the specific problems, and hopefully fix them before the release intended for prime time. Thanks for testing. TTYL -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com Thu Apr 1 08:49:32 2004 From: pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com (Pete Bradbury) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 09:49:32 +0100 Subject: Ide not recognised Message-ID: <001501c417c6$408d44e0$0100a8c0@shubunkin> I've filled under bugzilla 119570 My dual boot asus sk8n runs fedora core test 1 but the latest core 2 won't get past the anaconda partitioning with either auto partition or disk druid. Both fail to see the ide drive, hdc. Is there anything I should do to get this top work? I thought at first it was my promise sata raid but with this disabled in bios, the problem persists! From linuxnow at newtral.org Thu Apr 1 08:55:11 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:55:11 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Ide not recognised Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Pete Bradbury wrote: > I've filled under bugzilla 119570 > > My dual boot asus sk8n runs fedora core test 1 but the latest core 2 won't > get past the anaconda partitioning with either auto partition or disk druid. > > Both fail to see the ide drive, hdc. > > Is there anything I should do to get this top work? I thought at first it > was my promise sata raid but with this disabled in bios, the problem > persists! Post your comments here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118941 Pau From gene at czarc.net Thu Apr 1 12:21:39 2004 From: gene at czarc.net (Gene Czarcinski) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 07:21:39 -0500 Subject: Ide not recognised In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200404010721.39583.gene@czarc.net> On Thursday 01 April 2004 03:55, Pau Aliagas wrote: > On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Pete Bradbury wrote: > > I've filled under bugzilla 119570 > > > > My dual boot asus sk8n runs fedora core test 1 but the latest core 2 > > won't get past the anaconda partitioning with either auto partition or > > disk druid. > > > > Both fail to see the ide drive, hdc. > > > > Is there anything I should do to get this top work? I thought at first > > it was my promise sata raid but with this disabled in bios, the problem > > persists! > > Post your comments here: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118941 Also take a look at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=113201 Was your drive originally partitioned by Windows? Gene From pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com Thu Apr 1 15:05:14 2004 From: pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com (Pete Bradbury) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:05:14 +0100 Subject: updatedb on fedora 2 Message-ID: <001a01c417fa$c1be6600$0100a8c0@shubunkin> Can't get this working, complains of permission denied to updatedb.conf. From marc.miller at amd.com Thu Apr 1 16:10:11 2004 From: marc.miller at amd.com (marc.miller at amd.com) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 08:10:11 -0800 Subject: updatedb on fedora 2 Message-ID: <858788618A93D111B45900805F85267A0B75ED39@caexmta3.amd.com> Haven't tried updatedb on Fedora yet, but updatedb typically needs to be run as root, could that be the problem? -----Original Message----- From: Pete Bradbury [mailto:pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:05 AM To: amd64-list at redhat.com Subject: updatedb on fedora 2 Can't get this working, complains of permission denied to updatedb.conf. -- amd64-list mailing list amd64-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/amd64-list From pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com Thu Apr 1 16:44:16 2004 From: pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com (Pete Bradbury) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 17:44:16 +0100 Subject: updatedb on fedora 2 References: <858788618A93D111B45900805F85267A0B75ED39@caexmta3.amd.com> Message-ID: <004801c41808$92aca710$0100a8c0@shubunkin> No I am root - so it can't be that ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:10 PM Subject: RE: updatedb on fedora 2 > Haven't tried updatedb on Fedora yet, but updatedb typically needs to be run as root, could that be the problem? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pete Bradbury [mailto:pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:05 AM > To: amd64-list at redhat.com > Subject: updatedb on fedora 2 > > > Can't get this working, complains of permission denied to updatedb.conf. > > > > -- > amd64-list mailing list > amd64-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/amd64-list > > > -- > amd64-list mailing list > amd64-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/amd64-list > From mharris at redhat.com Thu Apr 1 17:26:02 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 12:26:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: updatedb on fedora 2 In-Reply-To: <004801c41808$92aca710$0100a8c0@shubunkin> References: <858788618A93D111B45900805F85267A0B75ED39@caexmta3.amd.com> <004801c41808$92aca710$0100a8c0@shubunkin> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Pete Bradbury wrote: >Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 17:44:16 +0100 >From: Pete Bradbury >To: marc.miller at amd.com, amd64-list at redhat.com >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >X-BeenThere: amd64-list at redhat.com >Subject: Re: updatedb on fedora 2 > >No > >I am root - so it can't be that It is probably an SElinux issue, please file a bug report in bugzilla against the "policy" package. TIA -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From notting at redhat.com Thu Apr 1 17:57:49 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 12:57:49 -0500 Subject: updatedb on fedora 2 In-Reply-To: References: <858788618A93D111B45900805F85267A0B75ED39@caexmta3.amd.com> <004801c41808$92aca710$0100a8c0@shubunkin> Message-ID: <20040401175748.GC20938@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Mike A. Harris (mharris at redhat.com) said: > >I am root - so it can't be that > > It is probably an SElinux issue, please file a bug report in > bugzilla against the "policy" package. It is an SELinux issue, and it's in bugzilla against policy. Don't recall the # off the top of my head. Bill From ckloiber at redhat.com Thu Apr 1 18:20:49 2004 From: ckloiber at redhat.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 02:20:49 +0800 Subject: Ide not recognised In-Reply-To: <200404010721.39583.gene@czarc.net> References: <200404010721.39583.gene@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1080843649.21630.13.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 20:21, Gene Czarcinski wrote: > On Thursday 01 April 2004 03:55, Pau Aliagas wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Pete Bradbury wrote: > > > I've filled under bugzilla 119570 > > > > > > My dual boot asus sk8n runs fedora core test 1 but the latest core 2 > > > won't get past the anaconda partitioning with either auto partition or > > > disk druid. > > > > > > Both fail to see the ide drive, hdc. > > > > > > Is there anything I should do to get this top work? I thought at first > > > it was my promise sata raid but with this disabled in bios, the problem > > > persists! > > > > Post your comments here: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118941 > > Also take a look at > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=113201 > > Was your drive originally partitioned by Windows? > Yes and no. It was partitioned by windows, but I have also wiped it with dd, partitioned with anaconda in an i386 install and tried again. It still did not find hda. -- Chris Kloiber, RHCX Red Hat, Inc. From kevin.jackson at tradermedia.co.uk Fri Apr 2 08:44:05 2004 From: kevin.jackson at tradermedia.co.uk (Kevin Jackson) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:44:05 +0100 Subject: Ide not recognised Message-ID: <62642BFE5CDEA84BBD3B3C89E71DDAA3049A5DD7@newl0010.nlw.autotrader.co.uk> Have you disabled UDMA in the BIOS and tried again? I've had a few problems with various boards and during installation I'd turn of UDMA for my drives, things would go through fine, then I'd enable it again once complete [admittedly, not for an AMD64 box though]. Kev -----Original Message----- From: Chris Kloiber [mailto:ckloiber at redhat.com] Sent: 01 April 2004 19:21 To: Gene Czarcinski Cc: amd64-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: Ide not recognised Yes and no. It was partitioned by windows, but I have also wiped it with dd, partitioned with anaconda in an i386 install and tried again. It still did not find hda. -- Chris Kloiber, RHCX Red Hat, Inc. -- amd64-list mailing list amd64-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/amd64-list ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** From ckloiber at redhat.com Fri Apr 2 09:10:53 2004 From: ckloiber at redhat.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:10:53 +0800 Subject: Ide not recognised In-Reply-To: <62642BFE5CDEA84BBD3B3C89E71DDAA3049A5DD7@newl0010.nlw.autotrader.co.uk> References: <62642BFE5CDEA84BBD3B3C89E71DDAA3049A5DD7@newl0010.nlw.autotrader.co.uk> Message-ID: <1080897053.12042.32.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> I guess you haven't seen this bios. There are literally *NO* options in it. I've never seen such a stripped down bios in my life. Information fields, boot order and password are about it. eMachines believes they know the best bios settings, so they don't let you change any. When I tell them the bios is unusable in any 64-bit operating system, they tell me to use the restore CD's included. They only care that it works with 32-bit Windows. Anybody want to by a used laptop, cheap? Free bullet holes included, no additional charge. :( On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 16:44, Kevin Jackson wrote: > Have you disabled UDMA in the BIOS and tried again? > I've had a few problems with various boards and during installation I'd turn > of UDMA for my drives, things would go through fine, then I'd enable it > again once complete [admittedly, not for an AMD64 box though]. > > Kev > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Kloiber [mailto:ckloiber at redhat.com] > Sent: 01 April 2004 19:21 > To: Gene Czarcinski > Cc: amd64-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: Ide not recognised > > > Yes and no. > > It was partitioned by windows, but I have also wiped it with dd, > partitioned with anaconda in an i386 install and tried again. It still > did not find hda. > > -- > Chris Kloiber, RHCX > Red Hat, Inc. -- Chris Kloiber, RHCX Red Hat, Inc. From gene at czarc.net Fri Apr 2 10:02:27 2004 From: gene at czarc.net (Gene Czarcinski) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 05:02:27 -0500 Subject: Ide not recognised In-Reply-To: <1080897053.12042.32.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> References: <62642BFE5CDEA84BBD3B3C89E71DDAA3049A5DD7@newl0010.nlw.autotrader.co.uk> <1080897053.12042.32.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200404020502.27677.gene@czarc.net> On Friday 02 April 2004 04:10, Chris Kloiber wrote: > I guess you haven't seen this bios. There are literally *NO* options in > it. I've never seen such a stripped down bios in my life. Information > fields, boot order and password are about it. eMachines believes they > know the best bios settings, so they don't let you change any. When I > tell them the bios is unusable in any 64-bit operating system, they tell > me to use the restore CD's included. They only care that it works with > 32-bit Windows. Surprise! > > Anybody want to by a used laptop, cheap? Free bullet holes included, no > additional charge. :( Mmmm ... and I was thinking of buying one of these. I believe I will look around a bit more. Are the problems you having with FC1, FC2, or both? Gene From ckloiber at redhat.com Fri Apr 2 10:16:31 2004 From: ckloiber at redhat.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 18:16:31 +0800 Subject: Ide not recognised In-Reply-To: <200404020502.27677.gene@czarc.net> References: <62642BFE5CDEA84BBD3B3C89E71DDAA3049A5DD7@newl0010.nlw.autotrader.co.uk> <1080897053.12042.32.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> <200404020502.27677.gene@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1080900990.13090.7.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 18:02, Gene Czarcinski wrote: > On Friday 02 April 2004 04:10, Chris Kloiber wrote: > > I guess you haven't seen this bios. There are literally *NO* options in > > it. I've never seen such a stripped down bios in my life. Information > > fields, boot order and password are about it. eMachines believes they > > know the best bios settings, so they don't let you change any. When I > > tell them the bios is unusable in any 64-bit operating system, they tell > > me to use the restore CD's included. They only care that it works with > > 32-bit Windows. > > Surprise! > > > > > Anybody want to by a used laptop, cheap? Free bullet holes included, no > > additional charge. :( > > Mmmm ... and I was thinking of buying one of these. I believe I will look > around a bit more. > > Are the problems you having with FC1, FC2, or both? > > Gene Anything 64-bit, *including* the public beta of 64-bit Windows. 32-bit linux OS's work reasonably well. If I had to do it again I might try an HP AMD64 laptop (didn't know they existed until *after* my impulse purchase... /me bad). They are having some reported problems as well, but not nearly as bad as eMachines. The display is bigger, the video 64MB nVidia (at least there are AMD64 drivers!) Also HP has more "Linux CLUE". I wouldn't expect a complete blowoff from their support department. -- Chris Kloiber, RHCX Red Hat, Inc. From pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com Fri Apr 2 09:09:29 2004 From: pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com (Pete Bradbury) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:09:29 +0100 Subject: Ide not recognised References: <62642BFE5CDEA84BBD3B3C89E71DDAA3049A5DD7@newl0010.nlw.autotrader.co.uk> Message-ID: <000601c418c7$a990e3a0$0100a8c0@shubunkin> I have got it working by removing all the partitions from the drive. It's crude and, luckily, I have a larger drive to backup up anything of importance. BTW when I tried to reinstall over the new Fedora2 I had to repeat the above process. Seems like a BIG BUG! Hope someone with more skill than me is working on it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Jackson" To: Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:44 AM Subject: RE: Ide not recognised > Have you disabled UDMA in the BIOS and tried again? > I've had a few problems with various boards and during installation I'd turn > of UDMA for my drives, things would go through fine, then I'd enable it > again once complete [admittedly, not for an AMD64 box though]. > > Kev > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Kloiber [mailto:ckloiber at redhat.com] > Sent: 01 April 2004 19:21 > To: Gene Czarcinski > Cc: amd64-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: Ide not recognised > > > Yes and no. > > It was partitioned by windows, but I have also wiped it with dd, > partitioned with anaconda in an i386 install and tried again. It still > did not find hda. > > -- > Chris Kloiber, RHCX > Red Hat, Inc. > > > > -- > amd64-list mailing list > amd64-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/amd64-list > > > ********************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify > the system manager. > This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by > MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. > www.mimesweeper.com > ********************************************************************** > > > -- > amd64-list mailing list > amd64-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/amd64-list > From gene at czarc.net Sun Apr 11 17:51:54 2004 From: gene at czarc.net (Gene Czarcinski) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 13:51:54 -0400 Subject: shopping for laptop Message-ID: <200404111351.54557.gene@czarc.net> OK, I am beginning my search for an Athlon64 laptop. One of the ones I have found is the HP ZV5000 and its apparent twin the Compaq R3000Z. Both of these are winthin my target cost of around $1800 plus tax, tip, etc. when I configure them for options I want. One of the vendors I would normally look at very seriously is Dell but they seem to be avoiding the AMD64 processors. I am looking for something which can be dual boot (Windows + FC2). It is important to me that it be able to run FC2. I am aware of the eMachine's M6807 but am put off on this unit because of comments about FC2 install problems and some shortcomings with respect to configuration. I am aware that there are other laptops/notebooks available (brand-x) but have no idea how these will work or what they cost. Any comments [pro or con]? Any other suggestions? From tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com Mon Apr 12 03:10:39 2004 From: tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com (Jason Knight) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:10:39 -0500 Subject: more -- ix86 packages on x86_64 system In-Reply-To: <200403230940.17387.gene@czarc.net> References: <200403230940.17387.gene@czarc.net> Message-ID: <407A08AF.5050400@austin.rr.com> Gene Czarcinski wrote: >The only idea that occurs to me involves up2date/yum/system-config-packages. >Could one/all of these packages be enhanced to properly handle the addition >(new installation) of an ix86 package on an existing x86_64 system ... to >install the package but then fix things so that if a x86_64 package was >already installed it would be re-installed (or things otherwise fixed up) so >that the result was the proper set of x86_64 files plus the ix86 libraries. > >The problem with spending any resources to solve this problem is that it >appears to me to be only needed for the amd64 (and whatever Intel is calling >their version) platform. Other platforms which support simultaneous 32-bit >and 64-bit applications do not appear to have the problem since they seem to >be mostly 32-bit with a few 64-bit applications. So the question is: How >important is it to support arbitrary 32-bit applications running on a x86_64 >system? Is it important enough to spend time developing the capability. > >Comments? Suggestions? > >Gene > > I think one of the things that needs to be remembered is that the software (and hardware) community is slowly migrating towards the 64 bit architechture whereas 32 bit will become the old compatibility feature. Therefore sites such as newrpms and fedora.us will have their repositories eventually having x86_64 packages as opposed to the current 32 bit only status. This will mean that installations will be a breeze with x86_64 packages being installed from x86_64 repos will work flawlessly for the x86_64 based systems. So in effect: I think our main goal should be to start pushing developers (and repo maintainers) to start coding/building for 64 bit and to begin the migration as it has to start sooner or later. -- Jason Knight Fedora Core 2 Test 2 *x86_64* From ckloiber at redhat.com Mon Apr 12 03:40:11 2004 From: ckloiber at redhat.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:40:11 +0800 Subject: more -- ix86 packages on x86_64 system In-Reply-To: <407A08AF.5050400@austin.rr.com> References: <200403230940.17387.gene@czarc.net> <407A08AF.5050400@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <1081741210.10199.5.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Mon, 2004-04-12 at 11:10, Jason Knight wrote: > Gene Czarcinski wrote: > > >The only idea that occurs to me involves up2date/yum/system-config-packages. > >Could one/all of these packages be enhanced to properly handle the addition > >(new installation) of an ix86 package on an existing x86_64 system ... to > >install the package but then fix things so that if a x86_64 package was > >already installed it would be re-installed (or things otherwise fixed up) so > >that the result was the proper set of x86_64 files plus the ix86 libraries. > > > >The problem with spending any resources to solve this problem is that it > >appears to me to be only needed for the amd64 (and whatever Intel is calling > >their version) platform. Other platforms which support simultaneous 32-bit > >and 64-bit applications do not appear to have the problem since they seem to > >be mostly 32-bit with a few 64-bit applications. So the question is: How > >important is it to support arbitrary 32-bit applications running on a x86_64 > >system? Is it important enough to spend time developing the capability. > > > >Comments? Suggestions? > > > >Gene > > > > > I think one of the things that needs to be remembered is that the > software (and hardware) community is slowly migrating towards the 64 bit > architechture whereas 32 bit will become the old compatibility feature. > Therefore sites such as newrpms and fedora.us will have their > repositories eventually having x86_64 packages as opposed to the current > 32 bit only status. This will mean that installations will be a breeze > with x86_64 packages being installed from x86_64 repos will work > flawlessly for the x86_64 based systems. > > So in effect: I think our main goal should be to start pushing > developers (and repo maintainers) to start coding/building for 64 bit > and to begin the migration as it has to start sooner or later. > > -- > Jason Knight > Fedora Core 2 Test 2 *x86_64* I don't believe the apt/yum repository owners will begin making available x86_64 packages until either someone buys them some x86_64 machines, or until they feel the urge to splurge on one (or two) themselves. I have felt that urge, and finally got FC2-test2 installed on my eMachines M6807 (with no help from anaconda or the kernel, I can tell you!) and am looking for a good x86_64 repo myself. I wanted to put a repo up myself, but since I live in the 'good old USA', that idea went down in flames. -- Chris Kloiber, RHCX Red Hat, Inc. From tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com Mon Apr 12 05:35:50 2004 From: tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com (Jason Knight) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 00:35:50 -0500 Subject: more -- ix86 packages on x86_64 system In-Reply-To: <1081741210.10199.5.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> References: <200403230940.17387.gene@czarc.net> <407A08AF.5050400@austin.rr.com> <1081741210.10199.5.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <407A2AB6.20502@austin.rr.com> >I don't believe the apt/yum repository owners will begin making >available x86_64 packages until either someone buys them some x86_64 >machines, or until they feel the urge to splurge on one (or two) >themselves. I have felt that urge, and finally got FC2-test2 installed >on my eMachines M6807 (with no help from anaconda or the kernel, I can >tell you!) and am looking for a good x86_64 repo myself. I wanted to put >a repo up myself, but since I live in the 'good old USA', that idea went >down in flames. > > Perhaps if we (as x86_64 machine users) were able to offer our abilites (compiling that is) to various repos to create a kind of joint partnership then they would be willing to open up a x86_64 repo. For example I know that fedora.us has a bugzilla type of framework for package submission, perhaps we should be rebuilding packages as x86_64 and then submitting them? -- Jason Knight Fedora Core 2 Test 2 *x86_64* From pchapman at pcsw.us Mon Apr 12 16:44:44 2004 From: pchapman at pcsw.us (Philip A. Chapman) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:44:44 -0500 Subject: Dual-booting amd64 and 32 bit x86? Message-ID: <1081788283.11717.20.camel@sage.pcsw.us> Everyone, I have ordered a eMachines M6809 and expect to take delivery on it later this week. To begin with, I'll probably install the 32 bit x86 version of Fedora and run that on it as I often use VMWare to run various version of windows. I'm making the only slightly educated assumption that I will have to run the 32 bit kernel so that VMWare's kernel modules will work with it. However, I'd like to play with the 64 but stuff too. I think that the best way to do this is to have separate partition(s) set up so that I can dual-boot between the 32 bit and 64 bit versions of Fedora. Is this the case? Is there a better way? Thanks, -- Philip A. Chapman Application Development: Java, Visual Basic (MCP), PostgreSQL, MySQL, MSSQL Linux, Windows 9x, Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ckloiber at redhat.com Mon Apr 12 18:08:54 2004 From: ckloiber at redhat.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 02:08:54 +0800 Subject: Dual-booting amd64 and 32 bit x86? In-Reply-To: <1081788283.11717.20.camel@sage.pcsw.us> References: <1081788283.11717.20.camel@sage.pcsw.us> Message-ID: <1081793334.16467.17.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 00:44, Philip A. Chapman wrote: > Everyone, > > I have ordered a eMachines M6809 and expect to take delivery on it later > this week. To begin with, I'll probably install the 32 bit x86 version > of Fedora and run that on it as I often use VMWare to run various > version of windows. I'm making the only slightly educated assumption > that I will have to run the 32 bit kernel so that VMWare's kernel > modules will work with it. > > However, I'd like to play with the 64 but stuff too. I think that the > best way to do this is to have separate partition(s) set up so that I > can dual-boot between the 32 bit and 64 bit versions of Fedora. Is this > the case? Is there a better way? > > Thanks, The M680x systems seem "allergic" to 64-bit Linux due to their brain-damaged bios, while eMachines sticks their collective heads in the sand, claiming it works as designed with 32-bit Windows. I have an M6807 and wish it was possible for me to return it. I am now looking at the Pavilion zv5000z. Does anyone have any experience with that hardware on 64-bit Linux? http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_store/computer_series_detail.do?series_name=zv5000z_series&series_index=4&catLevel=2 -- Chris Kloiber, RHCX Red Hat, Inc. From linuxnow at newtral.org Mon Apr 12 18:14:03 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:14:03 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Dual-booting amd64 and 32 bit x86? Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, Chris Kloiber wrote: > On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 00:44, Philip A. Chapman wrote: > > Everyone, > > > > I have ordered a eMachines M6809 and expect to take delivery on it later > > this week. To begin with, I'll probably install the 32 bit x86 version > > of Fedora and run that on it as I often use VMWare to run various > > version of windows. I'm making the only slightly educated assumption > > that I will have to run the 32 bit kernel so that VMWare's kernel > > modules will work with it. > > > > However, I'd like to play with the 64 but stuff too. I think that the > > best way to do this is to have separate partition(s) set up so that I > > can dual-boot between the 32 bit and 64 bit versions of Fedora. Is this > > the case? Is there a better way? > > > > Thanks, > > The M680x systems seem "allergic" to 64-bit Linux due to their > brain-damaged bios, while eMachines sticks their collective heads in the > sand, claiming it works as designed with 32-bit Windows. I have an M6807 > and wish it was possible for me to return it. I am now looking at the > Pavilion zv5000z. Does anyone have any experience with that hardware on > 64-bit Linux? > > http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_store/computer_series_detail.do?series_name=zv5000z_series&series_index=4&catLevel=2 I have an Acer 1502LMi and I am using it wit no problems, as a test platform I must say. Even the ATI card works with the xorg packages. Only the Broadcom 802.11g card does not work. I'll try to install the ndiswrapper when I have more time. Feel free to contact me if you need more information or want to test it. Pau From mharris at redhat.com Tue Apr 13 22:24:29 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 18:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Dual-booting amd64 and 32 bit x86? In-Reply-To: <1081788283.11717.20.camel@sage.pcsw.us> References: <1081788283.11717.20.camel@sage.pcsw.us> Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, Philip A. Chapman wrote: >I have ordered a eMachines M6809 and expect to take delivery on it later >this week. To begin with, I'll probably install the 32 bit x86 version >of Fedora and run that on it as I often use VMWare to run various >version of windows. I'm making the only slightly educated assumption >that I will have to run the 32 bit kernel so that VMWare's kernel >modules will work with it. 32bit VMware will not work under a 64bit OS kernel, as VMware uses vm86, which is not available in long mode on AMD64 CPUs at all, not even for 32bit apps. You can boot a 32bit OS on the AMD64 CPU however, and run 32bit VMware in it. You might want to contact VMware Inc. to find out what their plans are for 64bit VMware (if any) however, in case they have come up with an alternate method to replace the functionality obtained via vm86. >However, I'd like to play with the 64 but stuff too. I think >that the best way to do this is to have separate partition(s) >set up so that I can dual-boot between the 32 bit and 64 bit >versions of Fedora. Is this the case? Is there a better way? That's the easy way to do it. I share /home and /tmp between all OS installs on a single box, and it works fairly well. You might have conflicts with some ~/. files however if any apps change versions between OS releases and have incompatible config file formats. TTYL -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X11 Developer - Red Hat From gene at czarc.net Tue Apr 13 23:12:45 2004 From: gene at czarc.net (Gene Czarcinski) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:12:45 -0400 Subject: Dual-booting amd64 and 32 bit x86? In-Reply-To: <1081793334.16467.17.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> References: <1081788283.11717.20.camel@sage.pcsw.us> <1081793334.16467.17.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200404131912.45462.gene@czarc.net> On Monday 12 April 2004 14:08, Chris Kloiber wrote: > I am now looking at the > Pavilion zv5000z. Does anyone have any experience with that hardware on > 64-bit Linux? I am not sure that HP is still selling the zv5000 ... I checked their web site and they now have something called the zv51xx ... similar but?? You might also look at the Compaq R3000z which is both similar and different. Whatever you do I will be interested in how it works since I am also looking to buy a Athlon64 notebook. So far my research says that priced the way I want it is going to cost about $1900. Gene From jim.deas at jadsystems.com Wed Apr 14 02:43:26 2004 From: jim.deas at jadsystems.com (Jim Deas) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:43:26 -0700 Subject: Native Opteron and nfsd Message-ID: <008b01c421ca$43546010$0264a8c0@jadengineering> Has anyone got nfs running between native Opteron FC2 and Redhat 9.0 x86? I have disabled the firewall, selinux, and added my client to tcpwrappers but I still get a permission denied when trying to access a '/server *(rw)' defined share. Samba started working after I disabled selinux but I don't want to restart selinux until after smb,nfs, and netatalk are working. Regards, JD From gene at czarc.net Thu Apr 15 10:09:53 2004 From: gene at czarc.net (Gene Czarcinski) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:09:53 -0400 Subject: ASUS SK8V and Sound Message-ID: <200404150609.53388.gene@czarc.net> OK, I am looking for someone who has a ASUS SK8V motherboard (the one for socket940) and who is running Fedora Core 2 Test 2. There appear to be a number of folks who have the ASUS K8V socket754 motherboard and it may truly be identical except for the socket but I do not know that so I am focusing on the SK8V. My problem is sound. The SK8V has a VIA8322 adapter on the mobo ( VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)). It does not work on FC2. It works fine on FC1 but the sound drivers are OSS on FC1 and ALSA on FC2. On FC2, everything (e.g, system-config-soundcard) goes through the motions but no sound comes from the speakers. es, I have the volume settings all maxed out and (after the selinux policy was fixed) that seems to be working ... but no sound. Anyone with an SK8V and running FC2, is your sound working or not? Gene From pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com Thu Apr 15 15:22:33 2004 From: pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com (Pete Bradbury) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:22:33 +0100 Subject: ASUS SK8V and Sound References: <200404150609.53388.gene@czarc.net> Message-ID: <004b01c422fd$7a08bdc0$0400a8c0@shubunkin> Sorry I have an SK8N but I've had no sound on either Fedora 1 or 2 If that's any consolation? If you do ger sound sussed out I'd like to know how you do it? Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Czarcinski" To: Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:09 AM Subject: ASUS SK8V and Sound > OK, I am looking for someone who has a ASUS SK8V motherboard (the one for > socket940) and who is running Fedora Core 2 Test 2. There appear to be a > number of folks who have the ASUS K8V socket754 motherboard and it may truly > be identical except for the socket but I do not know that so I am focusing on > the SK8V. > > My problem is sound. The SK8V has a VIA8322 adapter on the mobo ( VIA > Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)). > > It does not work on FC2. It works fine on FC1 but the sound drivers are OSS > on FC1 and ALSA on FC2. On FC2, everything (e.g, system-config-soundcard) > goes through the motions but no sound comes from the speakers. es, I have > the volume settings all maxed out and (after the selinux policy was fixed) > that seems to be working ... but no sound. > > Anyone with an SK8V and running FC2, is your sound working or not? > > Gene > > > -- > amd64-list mailing list > amd64-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/amd64-list > From gene at czarc.net Thu Apr 15 15:37:06 2004 From: gene at czarc.net (Gene Czarcinski) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:37:06 -0400 Subject: ASUS SK8V and Sound In-Reply-To: <004b01c422fd$7a08bdc0$0400a8c0@shubunkin> References: <200404150609.53388.gene@czarc.net> <004b01c422fd$7a08bdc0$0400a8c0@shubunkin> Message-ID: <200404151137.06373.gene@czarc.net> On Thursday 15 April 2004 11:22, Pete Bradbury wrote: > Sorry I have an SK8N > > but I've had no sound on either Fedora 1 or 2 > > If that's any consolation? > > If you do ger sound sussed out I'd like to know how you do it? OK, its not my SK8V, it is the others too. As far as FC1 going, you might want to try plugging the "green" speaker plug into the "blue" socket rather than the "green" one you would expect to use. That works for me (but not on FC2). Gene From Mike.Cooper at reshape.com Thu Apr 15 17:44:12 2004 From: Mike.Cooper at reshape.com (Mike Cooper) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 10:44:12 -0700 Subject: ASUS K8V BIOS problem Message-ID: <407EC9EC.4040303@reshape.com> This isn't Linux specific at all, but ASUS Tech Support is non-existant so I'm hoping someone might have seen this before... I have an ASUS K8V with Athlon64 3000 CPU and a 512MB DIMM (one that's listed in the K8V manual as being approved). The problem is the BIOS never attempts to boot from any device (DVD, IDE disk, or floppy). I never seen any activity light on any boot device. It also almost never goes into BIOS setup mode when I hit . After the BIOS startup screen showing config info, it goes to the RAID initialization screen, then the screen clears and I get absolutely nothing. The monitor is getting a video signal still, but the screen is blank. Sometimes I can hit at this point and I'll get "Entering Setup ...", but nothing happens. If I hit during the initial BIOS "booting" screen I can see it say "Entering Setup ..." mixed in with the normal BIOS boot messages, but it still just goes to the "on, but blank screen" mode. Twice I was able to hit to get the BIOS boot menu. Once I was actually able to get into BIOS SETUP. That was the first time I powered on after building the system. I've replaced the K8V and the replacement has the same problem. Anybody seen anything like this? mike From pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com Thu Apr 15 18:07:28 2004 From: pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com (Pete Bradbury) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:07:28 +0100 Subject: ASUS K8V BIOS problem In-Reply-To: <407EC9EC.4040303@reshape.com> References: <407EC9EC.4040303@reshape.com> Message-ID: <407ECF60.60800@btinternet.com> Mike Cooper wrote: > This isn't Linux specific at all, but ASUS Tech Support is > non-existant so I'm hoping someone might have seen this before... > > I have an ASUS K8V with Athlon64 3000 CPU and a 512MB DIMM (one that's > listed in the K8V manual as being approved). > > The problem is the BIOS never attempts to boot from any device (DVD, > IDE disk, or floppy). I never seen any activity light on any boot > device. > > It also almost never goes into BIOS setup mode when I hit . > After the BIOS startup screen showing config info, it goes to the RAID > initialization screen, then the screen clears and I get absolutely > nothing. The monitor is getting a video signal still, but the screen > is blank. Sometimes I can hit at this point and I'll get > "Entering Setup ...", but nothing happens. > > If I hit during the initial BIOS "booting" screen I can see it > say "Entering Setup ..." mixed in with the normal BIOS boot messages, > but it still just goes to the "on, but blank screen" mode. > > Twice I was able to hit to get the BIOS boot menu. > > Once I was actually able to get into BIOS SETUP. That was the first > time I powered on after building the system. > > I've replaced the K8V and the replacement has the same problem. > > Anybody seen anything like this? > > mike > > I've had similar, odd problems with my Asus card. Try unplugging the power connector for a few seconds - 10-20 then insert and retry. The MB seems to hold a charge when it gets stuck like this and this crude but effective method does seem to flush out the gremlins. From seth at integratedsolutions.org Thu Apr 15 20:45:50 2004 From: seth at integratedsolutions.org (Seth Bardash) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:45:50 -0600 Subject: ASUS K8V BIOS problem In-Reply-To: <407ECF60.60800@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <010f01c4232a$aafef250$0300a8c0@dmp1800> > -----Original Message----- > Mike Cooper wrote: > > > This isn't Linux specific at all, but ASUS Tech Support is > > non-existent so I'm hoping someone might have seen this before... > > > > I have an ASUS K8V with Athlon64 3000 CPU and a 512MB DIMM > (one that's > > listed in the K8V manual as being approved). > > > > The problem is the BIOS never attempts to boot from any device (DVD, > > IDE disk, or floppy). SNIP > > > I've replaced the K8V and the replacement has the same problem. > > > > Anybody seen anything like this? > > > > mike > > > > > I've had similar, odd problems with my Asus card. > > Try unplugging the power connector for a few seconds - 10-20 > then insert and retry. > > The MB seems to hold a charge when it gets stuck like this and this > crude but effective method does seem to flush out the gremlins. > When and if you get this to boot - Be forewarned: We have not had good luck with ASUS Athlon 64 boards + linux!! Tyan and Arima seem solid and they have a good staff that understands linux. If you are running the ASUS K8V with the Marvell chipset (there are 2 versions - one with the Marvell 88E8001 and the other with the 3com chipset - given a choice go for the 3com) for gigabit you will find that ASUS missed some BIOS code to properly set up the VPD area for the LAN controller. This causes linux to report a VPD key unreadable error to the log file every time the driver accesses the 88E8001 gigabit lan chip. ASUS's response was first to tell us to check their web site for drivers. We actually found the latest drivers at syskonnect.de - version 6.24 ----> The latest drivers still have the same problem so we contacted syskonnect and they said that the bios and setup code on the ASUS board is faulty ???? !!!! After all the finger-pointing we have found: 1) The Gigabit LAN works fine but /var/log/messages fills up under heavy ethernet traffic. 2) ASUS does not care if you have a problem with their boards running linux "It works fine under Windows XP Pro" We did test this and its true, it runs Win XP Pro fine... 3) Contacting ASUS about anything out of the ordinary (read windows) is like shouting down an abandoned mine shaft; You know you are shouting but the only response you get is an echo...... The K8V's BIOS in general seems missing a few things and in some cases just does not work correctly with linux. We have also tried the Shuttle AN50R - another great leap into the abyss. This board has problems with parallel IDE drives not being seen by the linux install iso boot disk until you get to kernel rev 2.6 or better. Let me know if you fix the problems you are seeing as I'm sure everyone would be interested how you did it. Best Seth Bardash Integrated Solutions and Systems http://www.integratedsolutions.org Supplier of AMD, Intel and SPARC Servers and Systems running Windows, Linux, Solaris and VxWorks. *Failure can not cope with perseverance* --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.657 / Virus Database: 422 - Release Date: 4/13/2004 From amd64 at purple.dropbear.id.au Thu Apr 15 21:57:47 2004 From: amd64 at purple.dropbear.id.au (Ashley J Gittins) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 07:57:47 +1000 Subject: ASUS K8V BIOS problem In-Reply-To: <407EC9EC.4040303@reshape.com> References: <407EC9EC.4040303@reshape.com> Message-ID: <200404160757.47081.amd64@purple.dropbear.id.au> On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 03:44 am, Mike Cooper wrote: > This isn't Linux specific at all, but ASUS Tech Support is non-existant > so I'm hoping someone might have seen this before... > > I have an ASUS K8V with Athlon64 3000 CPU and a 512MB DIMM (one that's > listed in the K8V manual as being approved). > > The problem is the BIOS never attempts to boot from any device (DVD, IDE > disk, or floppy). I never seen any activity light on any boot device. > > It also almost never goes into BIOS setup mode when I hit . After > the BIOS startup screen showing config info, it goes to the RAID > initialization screen, then the screen clears and I get absolutely > nothing. The monitor is getting a video signal still, but the screen is > blank. Sometimes I can hit at this point and I'll get "Entering > Setup ...", but nothing happens. > > If I hit during the initial BIOS "booting" screen I can see it say > "Entering Setup ..." mixed in with the normal BIOS boot messages, but it > still just goes to the "on, but blank screen" mode. > > Twice I was able to hit to get the BIOS boot menu. > > Once I was actually able to get into BIOS SETUP. That was the first > time I powered on after building the system. > > I've replaced the K8V and the replacement has the same problem. > > Anybody seen anything like this? > > mike Hi Mike, I have an Athlon64 3400+ in an Asus K8V deluxe, which has the 3com gigabit interface (so perhaps a later revision than the one Seth's experiences relate to). I've not had problems like you've described, so I might not be of much help other than to say that the board _can_ work :-) A friend bought one and had trouble with booting it reliably, but it turned out he was sent the wrong ram - he had registered ram installed which caused instability with one simm, and no booting at all with two. I'd recommend going back to the basic checks, especially since you have tried two mobo's. Check that the heatsink is properly installed, with either the heat-transer pad properly applied or with heatsink compound (since you had the board replaced I expect the pad would have to have been replaced). Also, your power supply might not be up to the task (I'm using a 550W supply), and could cause the intermittent behaivour you have described, as could motherboard mounting hex-bolts in the wrong places. Bizarrely, mine came with a spring lodged in the FDD connector which caused the floppy controller to not work, although the rest of the mobo worked ok, and all was fine after removing the superfluous spring - perhaps some of Asus' assembly line is falling apart and donating parts to the motherboards :-) - but again, if this is the second mobo, it's unlikely to be a mobo fault (assuming both were new, and not from old stock somewhere). Just so you know, you usually don't get into the bios setup screen until after the raid controllers have gone through their initialisation (unless I'm just slow at hitting delete), which might be a pain if for some reason the promise or via controllers have issues. Cover the basics, remove all cards not required for booting (ie, all but video), check or swap out the power supply, go over the mobo mounting, heatsink/fan (make sure the cpu fan is connected to the right header so the bios can check the fan speed), and failing that, dig around at reshape for a PCI POST card so you can find out if it's always failing at the same bootup checks. Perhaps try a different vga card too if you have access to one. For exactly what's in my system you can look at http://www.purple.dropbear.id.au/node/view/6 but it's not likely to be much help, as I suspect you have either an incompatibility problem or a faulty piece of hardware somewhere (and not a faulty mobo). Cheers, Ash. From ssy at hpcnc.cpe.ku.ac.th Fri Apr 16 07:19:32 2004 From: ssy at hpcnc.cpe.ku.ac.th (Somsak Sriprayoonsakul) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:19:32 +0700 Subject: ASUS SK8V and Sound References: <200404150609.53388.gene@czarc.net> Message-ID: <015901c42383$2c029070$a5866c9e@Gemini> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Czarcinski" To: Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:09 PM Subject: ASUS SK8V and Sound > OK, I am looking for someone who has a ASUS SK8V motherboard (the one for > socket940) and who is running Fedora Core 2 Test 2. There appear to be a > number of folks who have the ASUS K8V socket754 motherboard and it may truly > be identical except for the socket but I do not know that so I am focusing on > the SK8V. > > My problem is sound. The SK8V has a VIA8322 adapter on the mobo ( VIA > Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)). > > It does not work on FC2. It works fine on FC1 but the sound drivers are OSS > on FC1 and ALSA on FC2. On FC2, everything (e.g, system-config-soundcard) > goes through the motions but no sound comes from the speakers. es, I have > the volume settings all maxed out and (after the selinux policy was fixed) > that seems to be working ... but no sound. > > Anyone with an SK8V and running FC2, is your sound working or not? Just to make sure... Did you turn-off muting with alsamixer? Usually Alsa is loaded with "Muted" on > > Gene > > > -- > amd64-list mailing list > amd64-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/amd64-list From gene at czarc.net Fri Apr 16 10:20:46 2004 From: gene at czarc.net (Gene Czarcinski) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 06:20:46 -0400 Subject: ASUS SK8V and Sound In-Reply-To: <015901c42383$2c029070$a5866c9e@Gemini> References: <200404150609.53388.gene@czarc.net> <015901c42383$2c029070$a5866c9e@Gemini> Message-ID: <200404160620.46322.gene@czarc.net> On Friday 16 April 2004 03:19, Somsak Sriprayoonsakul wrote: > Just to make sure... Did you turn-off muting with alsamixer? Usually Alsa > is loaded with "Muted" on yes From pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com Fri Apr 16 13:34:59 2004 From: pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com (Pete Bradbury) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:34:59 +0100 Subject: No CD sound on Asus SK8N Message-ID: <407FE103.7060607@btinternet.com> I've done a 'modprobe snd-emu10k1' and now lo and behold I have some sound Kmix gives me fedback on my mouse and the soundcard detection gives me the guitar strumming But neither KsCD or CDPlayer give me audio. The tracks appear and scrolling through the tracks occur - but no sound? Anyone? I've not done a reboot yet - so I could lose all of this? From pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com Fri Apr 16 13:38:53 2004 From: pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com (Pete Bradbury) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:38:53 +0100 Subject: No CD sound on Asus SK8N In-Reply-To: <407FE103.7060607@btinternet.com> References: <407FE103.7060607@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <407FE1ED.2090202@btinternet.com> Pete Bradbury wrote: > I've done a 'modprobe snd-emu10k1' > > and now lo and behold I have some sound > Kmix gives me fedback on my mouse that should say microphone > and the soundcard detection gives me the guitar strumming > > But neither KsCD or CDPlayer give me audio. The tracks appear and > scrolling through the tracks occur - but no sound? > > Anyone? > > I've not done a reboot yet - so I could lose all of this? > > > > From gene at czarc.net Fri Apr 16 13:43:38 2004 From: gene at czarc.net (Gene Czarcinski) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 09:43:38 -0400 Subject: No CD sound on Asus SK8N In-Reply-To: <407FE103.7060607@btinternet.com> References: <407FE103.7060607@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <200404160943.38433.gene@czarc.net> On Friday 16 April 2004 09:34, Pete Bradbury wrote: > I've done a 'modprobe snd-emu10k1' > > and now lo and behold I have some sound > Kmix gives me fedback on my mouse and the soundcard detection gives me > the guitar strumming > > But neither KsCD or CDPlayer give me audio. The tracks appear and > scrolling through the tracks occur - but no sound? > > Anyone? > > I've not done a reboot yet - so I could lose all of this? Your have an SK8N as comparted to my SK8V. Is the emu10k1 on the mobo or an added adapter? The SK8V has the VIA8233 on th mobo but given my sussecc sot far (none), I am considering adding a sound adapter like the emu10k1 -- I have one on another system and once udev and policy were fixed, it works fine. Gene From Mike.Cooper at reshape.com Fri Apr 16 17:21:06 2004 From: Mike.Cooper at reshape.com (Mike Cooper) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:21:06 -0700 Subject: ASUS K8V BIOS problem In-Reply-To: <407ECF60.60800@btinternet.com> References: <407EC9EC.4040303@reshape.com> <407ECF60.60800@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <40801602.5090407@reshape.com> Thanks! This seems to temporarily fix the problem. Whenever I make any BIOS setting change, it goes into this "blank screen no output mode". If I pull the power cord out for ~1 minute and plug it back in, it acts normal (I can get into BIOS setup or boot from any device). However, once I change any BIOS setting, it goes back into the same mode. Curiously, it consistantly says "Checking NVRAM... Update failed!" during normal BIOS initialization whenever it goes into "blank screen no output mode". When it boots OK it say "Checking NVRAM...". I'm going to try replacing the power supply (the case came with a 350W Allied power supply) with something better and see if that fixes the problem. mike Pete Bradbury wrote: > Mike Cooper wrote: > >> This isn't Linux specific at all, but ASUS Tech Support is >> non-existant so I'm hoping someone might have seen this before... >> >> I have an ASUS K8V with Athlon64 3000 CPU and a 512MB DIMM (one that's >> listed in the K8V manual as being approved). >> >> The problem is the BIOS never attempts to boot from any device (DVD, >> IDE disk, or floppy). I never seen any activity light on any boot >> device. >> >> It also almost never goes into BIOS setup mode when I hit . >> After the BIOS startup screen showing config info, it goes to the RAID >> initialization screen, then the screen clears and I get absolutely >> nothing. The monitor is getting a video signal still, but the screen >> is blank. Sometimes I can hit at this point and I'll get >> "Entering Setup ...", but nothing happens. >> >> If I hit during the initial BIOS "booting" screen I can see it >> say "Entering Setup ..." mixed in with the normal BIOS boot messages, >> but it still just goes to the "on, but blank screen" mode. >> >> Twice I was able to hit to get the BIOS boot menu. >> >> Once I was actually able to get into BIOS SETUP. That was the first >> time I powered on after building the system. >> >> I've replaced the K8V and the replacement has the same problem. >> >> Anybody seen anything like this? >> >> mike >> >> > I've had similar, odd problems with my Asus card. > > Try unplugging the power connector for a few seconds - 10-20 then insert > and retry. > > The MB seems to hold a charge when it gets stuck like this and this > crude but effective method > does seem to flush out the gremlins. > > > > > From pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com Fri Apr 16 18:21:23 2004 From: pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com (Pete Bradbury) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 19:21:23 +0100 Subject: No CD sound on Asus SK8N In-Reply-To: <200404160943.38433.gene@czarc.net> References: <407FE103.7060607@btinternet.com> <200404160943.38433.gene@czarc.net> Message-ID: <40802423.9050704@btinternet.com> Gene Czarcinski wrote: >On Friday 16 April 2004 09:34, Pete Bradbury wrote: > > >>I've done a 'modprobe snd-emu10k1' >> >>and now lo and behold I have some sound >>Kmix gives me fedback on my mouse and the soundcard detection gives me >>the guitar strumming >> >>But neither KsCD or CDPlayer give me audio. The tracks appear and >>scrolling through the tracks occur - but no sound? >> >>Anyone? >> >>I've not done a reboot yet - so I could lose all of this? >> >> > >Your have an SK8N as comparted to my SK8V. Is the emu10k1 on the mobo or an >added adapter? The SK8V has the VIA8233 on th mobo but given my sussecc sot >far (none), I am considering adding a sound adapter like the emu10k1 -- I >have one on another system and once udev and policy were fixed, it works >fine. > >Gene > > > > I have a Creative Audigy 2 ZS, but like you there is an onboard sound chip - which I imagine is redundant. I must check to see if it is disabled/or can be disabled from the bios. From pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com Fri Apr 16 18:23:07 2004 From: pete.s.bradbury at btinternet.com (Pete Bradbury) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 19:23:07 +0100 Subject: No CD sound on Asus SK8N In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20040416160526.024356d0@pop.xs4all.nl> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20040416160526.024356d0@pop.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <4080248B.7020301@btinternet.com> Seth Mos wrote: > At 14:34 16-4-2004 +0100, Pete Bradbury wrote: > >> I've done a 'modprobe snd-emu10k1' >> >> and now lo and behold I have some sound >> Kmix gives me fedback on my mouse and the soundcard detection gives >> me the guitar strumming >> >> But neither KsCD or CDPlayer give me audio. The tracks appear and >> scrolling through the tracks occur - but no sound? > > > Is the analog audio cable connected from the cdrom to the motherboard? > > Perhaps you did not select digital playback in your audio player. > > Cheers > -- > Seth > I don't make sense, I don't pretend to either. Questions? > It works fine under XP so I imagine it is set correctly? Just rebooted - no output from xdplayer or xmms! From seth at integratedsolutions.org Fri Apr 16 18:58:45 2004 From: seth at integratedsolutions.org (Seth Bardash) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:58:45 -0600 Subject: ASUS K8V BIOS problem In-Reply-To: <40801602.5090407@reshape.com> Message-ID: <020901c423e4$deaa39b0$0300a8c0@dmp1800> > -----Original Message----- SNIP > > I'm going to try replacing the power supply (the case came > with a 350W > Allied power supply) with something better and see if that fixes the > problem. > > mike Mike, Make sure the replacement PS has lots of +12V. We use Sparkle and Zippy 400 or 450 watt with very good results on our workstations. Seth Bardash Integrated Solutions and Systems http://www.integratedsolutions.org Supplier of AMD, Intel and SPARC Servers and Systems running Windows, Linux, Solaris and VxWorks. *Failure can not cope with perseverance* --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.657 / Virus Database: 422 - Release Date: 4/13/2004 From jim at jbsys.com Fri Apr 16 20:20:53 2004 From: jim at jbsys.com (James C. Bevier) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 13:20:53 -0700 Subject: No CD sound on Asus SK8N References: <4.3.2.7.2.20040416160526.024356d0@pop.xs4all.nl> <4080248B.7020301@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <002f01c423f0$51913310$0c01a8c0@nugget> I have an ASUS K8V SE with Athlon64 3200 processor. The board has onboard sound. My modprobe.conf has line with alias sound-slot-0 snd-via82xx. Testing the sound when running system-config-soundcard works fine, I hear the strumming music. I slid in a music CD and no sound using KsCD. I opened up KMix and selected the input tab. The second column is the CD input, which is muted by default. Click on the green light to unmute and slid the CD volume to full and you will have sound. Worked for me. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Bradbury" To: "Seth Mos" Cc: Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:23 AM Subject: Re: No CD sound on Asus SK8N > Seth Mos wrote: > > > At 14:34 16-4-2004 +0100, Pete Bradbury wrote: > > > >> I've done a 'modprobe snd-emu10k1' > >> > >> and now lo and behold I have some sound > >> Kmix gives me fedback on my mouse and the soundcard detection gives > >> me the guitar strumming > >> > >> But neither KsCD or CDPlayer give me audio. The tracks appear and > >> scrolling through the tracks occur - but no sound? > > > > > > Is the analog audio cable connected from the cdrom to the motherboard? > > > > Perhaps you did not select digital playback in your audio player. > > > > Cheers > > -- > > Seth > > I don't make sense, I don't pretend to either. Questions? > > > It works fine under XP so I imagine it is set correctly? > > Just rebooted - no output from xdplayer or xmms! > > > -- > amd64-list mailing list > amd64-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/amd64-list) > From amd64 at purple.dropbear.id.au Sat Apr 17 08:33:47 2004 From: amd64 at purple.dropbear.id.au (Ashley J Gittins) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 18:33:47 +1000 Subject: No CD sound on Asus SK8N In-Reply-To: <4080248B.7020301@btinternet.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20040416160526.024356d0@pop.xs4all.nl> <4080248B.7020301@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <200404171833.47034.amd64@purple.dropbear.id.au> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 04:23 am, Pete Bradbury wrote: > Seth Mos wrote: <..> > >> I've done a 'modprobe snd-emu10k1' <..> > It works fine under XP so I imagine it is set correctly? XP might be using digital playback by default, so it could still be that your cdrom's audio cable is not connected to the soundcard/mobo header. You can test that by configuring MS media player to not use digital playback. > Just rebooted - no output from xdplayer or xmms! You'll need to do the modprobe thing again, or go to the alsa website and look at the soundcard matrix for the sblive to see how to set it up permanently (hint: /etc/modules.conf for 2.4 kernels) From mark at harddata.com Mon Apr 19 19:59:25 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:59:25 -0600 Subject: ASUS SK8V and Sound In-Reply-To: <200404150609.53388.gene@czarc.net> References: <200404150609.53388.gene@czarc.net> Message-ID: <200404191359.25434.mark@harddata.com> On April 15, 2004 04:09 am, Gene Czarcinski wrote: > OK, I am looking for someone who has a ASUS SK8V motherboard (the one for > socket940) and who is running Fedora Core 2 Test 2. There appear to be a > number of folks who have the ASUS K8V socket754 motherboard and it may > truly be identical except for the socket but I do not know that so I am > focusing on the SK8V. > > My problem is sound. The SK8V has a VIA8322 adapter on the mobo ( VIA > Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)). > > It does not work on FC2. It works fine on FC1 but the sound drivers are > OSS on FC1 and ALSA on FC2. The OSS drivers don't really work. Try running a flash animation with sound. The OSS module installs but it doesn't have proper support for this sound chip. > On FC2, everything (e.g, > system-config-soundcard) goes through the motions but no sound comes from > the speakers. es, I have the volume settings all maxed out and (after the > selinux policy was fixed) that seems to be working ... but no sound. > > Anyone with an SK8V and running FC2, is your sound working or not? It should be. You may want to patch the kernel with the current alsa patches. I know my S754 board works but I am running a custom kernel which is patched with the 1.04 drivers. -- Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- From 64bit_fedora at comcast.net Mon Apr 26 21:37:17 2004 From: 64bit_fedora at comcast.net (Justin M. Forbes) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:37:17 -0500 Subject: Request for Info, MSI K8T Master2-FAR Message-ID: <20040426213717.GB31362@comcast.net> I am needing some information from someone running Fedora (or RHEL 3 I guess) on the MSI Master2-FAR motherboard. This is the dual Opteron board from MSI with only one memory bank (4 DIMM slots). If you could, please send me the following: Output from: dmesg lspci -vv lspci -n Please email it to me direct since it is more than likely fluff for list users. Thanks, Justin M. Forbes From devnull at adc.idt.com Fri Apr 30 21:04:55 2004 From: devnull at adc.idt.com (devnull at adc.idt.com) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:04:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Tyan K8W + 4 G of Memory. Message-ID: I had asked a question on this list a month back regarding 2.6.4 + 4G of memory. https://www.redhat.com/archives/amd64-list/2004-March/msg00076.html Turns out the problem is with the Tyan MoBo BIOS(its really an AMIBIOS in my case) The AGP Settings are "wrong", that is they are display wrong, the default is 128M, but looks like it is much higher. Setting it to some other value like 64M and then reboot, go back into the BIOS and reset to 128M and you can see 3.5G (you always loose the .5G, search archives of this list for reasons...) But, looks like things are good for now. I only have 2.4 installed for now, plan to upgrade to 2.6 tonite. I think someone else on this list, was seeing the same problem...so thought i would send this in... -- /dev/null devnull at adc.idt.com