From networkr0 at cfl.rr.com Mon Nov 1 00:30:10 2004 From: networkr0 at cfl.rr.com (Brian Chase) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:30:10 -0500 Subject: help with failed dependencies Message-ID: <41858392.8010908@cfl.rr.com> Trying to load NX from "NOMACHINE" onto my dual Opteron (240's). I am running FC2 x86-64 custom install, installing "everything", yet I get this failed dependency. Can anyone help analyse or assist in solving this failed dependency? I did the same thing on a FC2-386 box and it loaded fine, without failing dependency. The client and server both loaded and now I have an NX server running on that box (AMD-Athlon 1.2GHz) Side note: If anyone from the fedora team is listening, it would be awesome if you got NX client and server built into the next distro and yum repositories so I could just do a "yum install freenx" and "yum install nx" like I can with apt-get on Debian. Any help would be most appreciated. Kind Regards, Brian Chase > [root at prometheus tarballs-rpms]# ls > nxclient-1.3.2-7.i386.rpm nxserver-1.3.2-25.i386.rpm > nxserver-1.3.2-25enterprise.i386.rpm webmin-1.160-1.noarch.rpm > [root at prometheus tarballs-rpms]# rpm -Uvh nxclient-1.3.2-7.i386.rpm > error: Failed dependencies: > libqt-mt.so.3 is needed by nxclient-1.3.2-7 From berryja at gmail.com Mon Nov 1 00:55:12 2004 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 18:55:12 -0600 Subject: help with failed dependencies In-Reply-To: <41858392.8010908@cfl.rr.com> References: <41858392.8010908@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0410311655d35e5a1@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:30:10 -0500, Brian Chase wrote: > Trying to load NX from "NOMACHINE" onto my dual Opteron (240's). I am > running FC2 x86-64 custom install, installing "everything", yet I get > this failed dependency. Can anyone help analyse or assist in solving > this failed dependency? > > I did the same thing on a FC2-386 box and it loaded fine, without > failing dependency. The client and server both loaded and now I have an > NX server running on that box (AMD-Athlon 1.2GHz) > [snip] > > Any help would be most appreciated. > > Kind Regards, > > Brian Chase > > > [root at prometheus tarballs-rpms]# ls > > nxclient-1.3.2-7.i386.rpm nxserver-1.3.2-25.i386.rpm > > nxserver-1.3.2-25enterprise.i386.rpm webmin-1.160-1.noarch.rpm > > [root at prometheus tarballs-rpms]# rpm -Uvh nxclient-1.3.2-7.i386.rpm > > error: Failed dependencies: > > libqt-mt.so.3 is needed by nxclient-1.3.2-7 Perhaps you have the x86_64 version of the needed file installed, but not the i386 version. This would explain why it works on the i386 system, but not the 64. I know I've seen problems with some arch clashes before. Now, I certainly don't have *everything* installed as you do, but searching /usr/ for libqt* only found libqt-mt.so.3 in the lib64 directory. Jonathan From networkr0 at cfl.rr.com Mon Nov 1 03:24:36 2004 From: networkr0 at cfl.rr.com (Brian Chase) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 22:24:36 -0500 Subject: Got NX working on my Opteron box Message-ID: <4185AC74.9020307@cfl.rr.com> Well, I think I've settled on the platform that will stay for awhile on my dual Opteron server. Fedora Core 2 wins out over Mandrake by a slight margin, mainly due to familiarity and preference, but both installed and worked well in 64 bit mode. FC2 x86-64 is said to support the AMD64 platform out-of-the-box and yield the advantages of 64-bit processing on many of the native apps like Mozilla, etc. Not sure about OpenOffice, but that sure seems like a 64-bit candidate due to it's dog slow response times. It's still the slowest application on the box, even with it being much faster than any other instance of OO I've run. I have already become spoiled on using YUM on this box, due to the fact that it points to x86-64 mirrors that are not congested like the standard FC2 repositories. Just another advantage of going 64-bit before the masses do, lol. A full "yum update" after install only took about 15 minutes, compared an hour or more on the standard yum repositories, and this is without touching the stock standard that comes on the distro. Followed these instructions and got the NX server up and running, so now my 64-bit beast is a fully graphical, multi-user applications server I can access from anywhere that passes SSH. > http://fedoranews.org/contributors/rick_stout/freenx/ If there's significant interest in a another demo, I can muster something for a future installfest or meeting where we've got internet connection for everyone. It's quite easy to setup and is a /killer app/ in getting to your home machine from work or while on the road. Hope NX gets included in future Fedora distro's by default and becomes available on the standard x86-64 repositories. Doesn't sound like the one I'm running is 64-bit enabled, but that's the least of my concern at this point. Feedback on others' experiences with NX is sought for the benefit of myself and the LUG community. In the meantime, anyone that has questions not answered here can feel free to contact me on or off list. Cheers, BC From jdevroberto at yahoo.com Tue Nov 2 18:59:47 2004 From: jdevroberto at yahoo.com (Roberto Devo) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 10:59:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: V20z opteron, Red Hat, Sun StorEdge 3510 FC Array? Message-ID: <20041102185947.7158.qmail@web90109.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Hello, I'm trying to connect a 3510 fibre channel storage array to a V20z (AMD opteron) box running 64-bit Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3. Both the 3510 and the V20z are sun products: http://www.sun.com/storage/workgroup/3000/3500/3510/ http://www.sun.com/servers/entry/v20z/ I tested the 3510 by connecting it to a sparc box running Solaris 9 (with the SAN packages installed). The sparc box and the 3510 worked well together. Next, I put a fibre channel card in the V20z: http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_private/Devices/Fibre_Channel/FIBRE_PCIX_2GB_Single_FC.html The kudzu utility recognized the card. I used linux modprobe utility to confirm that the qlogic driver was installed/loaded in the V20z. I ran a cable from the 3510 to the fibre channel card in the V20z. I booted the V20z. Result: -no link light on the 3510 -both amber and green light on the fibre channel So, I'm curious: - Have you ever successfully setup a V20z-3510 fibre channel connection? - Do you know of anyone who has successfully setup a V20z-3510 fibre channel connection? - Is there anything I should be aware of when attempting to set this up? - How would you trouble shoot my no-link-light problem? -Thanks, -moi __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com From networkr0 at cfl.rr.com Mon Nov 1 00:30:10 2004 From: networkr0 at cfl.rr.com (Brian Chase) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:30:10 -0500 Subject: help with failed dependencies Message-ID: <41858392.8010908@cfl.rr.com> Trying to load NX from "NOMACHINE" onto my dual Opteron (240's). I am running FC2 x86-64 custom install, installing "everything", yet I get this failed dependency. Can anyone help analyse or assist in solving this failed dependency? I did the same thing on a FC2-386 box and it loaded fine, without failing dependency. The client and server both loaded and now I have an NX server running on that box (AMD-Athlon 1.2GHz) Side note: If anyone from the fedora team is listening, it would be awesome if you got NX client and server built into the next distro and yum repositories so I could just do a "yum install freenx" and "yum install nx" like I can with apt-get on Debian. Any help would be most appreciated. Kind Regards, Brian Chase > [root at prometheus tarballs-rpms]# ls > nxclient-1.3.2-7.i386.rpm nxserver-1.3.2-25.i386.rpm > nxserver-1.3.2-25enterprise.i386.rpm webmin-1.160-1.noarch.rpm > [root at prometheus tarballs-rpms]# rpm -Uvh nxclient-1.3.2-7.i386.rpm > error: Failed dependencies: > libqt-mt.so.3 is needed by nxclient-1.3.2-7 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From berryja at gmail.com Mon Nov 1 00:55:12 2004 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 18:55:12 -0600 Subject: help with failed dependencies In-Reply-To: <41858392.8010908@cfl.rr.com> References: <41858392.8010908@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0410311655d35e5a1@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:30:10 -0500, Brian Chase wrote: > Trying to load NX from "NOMACHINE" onto my dual Opteron (240's). I am > running FC2 x86-64 custom install, installing "everything", yet I get > this failed dependency. Can anyone help analyse or assist in solving > this failed dependency? > > I did the same thing on a FC2-386 box and it loaded fine, without > failing dependency. The client and server both loaded and now I have an > NX server running on that box (AMD-Athlon 1.2GHz) > [snip] > > Any help would be most appreciated. > > Kind Regards, > > Brian Chase > > > [root at prometheus tarballs-rpms]# ls > > nxclient-1.3.2-7.i386.rpm nxserver-1.3.2-25.i386.rpm > > nxserver-1.3.2-25enterprise.i386.rpm webmin-1.160-1.noarch.rpm > > [root at prometheus tarballs-rpms]# rpm -Uvh nxclient-1.3.2-7.i386.rpm > > error: Failed dependencies: > > libqt-mt.so.3 is needed by nxclient-1.3.2-7 Perhaps you have the x86_64 version of the needed file installed, but not the i386 version. This would explain why it works on the i386 system, but not the 64. I know I've seen problems with some arch clashes before. Now, I certainly don't have *everything* installed as you do, but searching /usr/ for libqt* only found libqt-mt.so.3 in the lib64 directory. Jonathan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From hansel at hansel.mnstate.edu Tue Nov 16 18:26:54 2004 From: hansel at hansel.mnstate.edu (hansel at hansel.mnstate.edu) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:26:54 -0600 (CST) Subject: FC3 libraries (libstdc++.so.5, libXp) Missing? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is a one processor opteron box. Upgrade from FC2 _FC3 using the DVD image. lyx, firefox and setiathome break immediately with report that the above libraries are not found. This occurred 30 seconds after booting from upgrade. While seti is trivial and a choice, and firefox is easily replaced with mozilla. lyx is a workhorse. If I can get some stability, I may be able to recompile. If I searched correctly, the 32bit stdc++ is in /usr/lib (living happily along side libstdc++.so.6). In the 64 bit libraries, there is no version 5, though both the i386 and the x86_64 rpms are installed. At this point while writing the original email, the screen froze, but the box continued and I could log in from another box to reboot. Rebooting into runlevel 5 results in an immediate freeze -- it appears to occur when I strike a key -- mouse cursor movements seem OK. Also, I tried to upgrade available rpms, runing up2date manually (as root) from a remote login, with named rpms. The rpms would download, one might install properly, but then I would get an error message (now lost). Running now in runlevel 3, with faithful command line interface, but I have to get up to the GUI. I hope I've done something wrong and that there is an easy fix. Awaiting enlightenment from hopefully more knowledgeable folk. -- Mark Hansel Minnesota State University Moorhead Moorhead, MN 56563 ph: 218-477-2039 fax: 218-477-2593 hansel at mnstate.edu http://wwwcj.mnstate.edu From marshall at novafoundry.com Tue Nov 16 19:16:41 2004 From: marshall at novafoundry.com (Marshall D. Lewis) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:16:41 -0500 Subject: FC3 libraries (libstdc++.so.5, libXp) Missing? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1100632601.13038.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> On my workstation libstdc++.so.5 in the compat-libstdc++ rpm... you can run this: rpm -q compat-libstdc++.x86_64 to verify that it's installed. If it's not you can run: yum install compat-libstdc++.x86_64 and that should fix it. As for your video problem .. I have no idea :) .. if you run startx from runlevel 3 does it still lock up? What kind of video card do you have? -- Marshall On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 12:26 -0600, hansel at hansel.mnstate.edu wrote: > This is a one processor opteron box. Upgrade from FC2 _FC3 using the DVD > image. > > lyx, firefox and setiathome break immediately with report that the above > libraries are not found. This occurred 30 seconds after booting from > upgrade. While seti is trivial and a choice, and firefox is easily > replaced with mozilla. lyx is a workhorse. If I can get some stability, I > may be able to recompile. > > If I searched correctly, the 32bit stdc++ is in /usr/lib (living happily > along side libstdc++.so.6). In the 64 bit libraries, there is no version > 5, though both the i386 and the x86_64 rpms are installed. > > At this point while writing the original email, the screen froze, but the > box continued and I could log in from another box to reboot. Rebooting > into runlevel 5 results in an immediate freeze -- it appears to occur when > I strike a key -- mouse cursor movements seem OK. > > Also, I tried to upgrade available rpms, runing up2date manually (as root) > from a remote login, with named rpms. The rpms would download, one might > install properly, but then I would get an error message (now lost). > Running now in runlevel 3, with faithful command line interface, but I > have to get up to the GUI. > > I hope I've done something wrong and that there is an easy fix. Awaiting > enlightenment from hopefully more knowledgeable folk. > > -- > Mark Hansel > Minnesota State University Moorhead > Moorhead, MN 56563 > ph: 218-477-2039 fax: 218-477-2593 > hansel at mnstate.edu > http://wwwcj.mnstate.edu > From Anil.Sreedharan at celera.com Fri Nov 19 00:12:40 2004 From: Anil.Sreedharan at celera.com (Anil Sreedharan) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:12:40 -0800 Subject: Compiling 64 bit kernel on 32 bit linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If any of you learned folks have pointers for the foll question please let me know. I am trying to compile a 64 bit kernel from source on32 bit linux Sincerely Anil--------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From qfennessy at gmail.com Fri Nov 19 13:34:34 2004 From: qfennessy at gmail.com (Quentin Fennessy) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 07:34:34 -0600 Subject: Compiling 64 bit kernel on 32 bit linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45c7bf3504111905345bb2beb9@mail.gmail.com> Alexander Viro just posted a how-to for cross-compilation on the linux-kernel list. You can fid it at: http://www.kernel-traffic.org/kernel-traffic/latest.html#10 He says: Contrary to popular beliefs, crosscompiling and full builds for a bunch of platforms are not hard and not particulary time-consuming. Below are my notes on the setup and practices; I hope it will be useful and I really_ hope that people will start doing similar things. On my boxen full rebuild for 6 platforms (allmodconfig on each) takes about an hour and normally is done once per new upstream tree; build-and-compare after making changes usually takes less than a minute total (again, for all these targets). IOW, it's fairly tolerable. On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:12:40 -0800, Anil Sreedharan wrote: > > > If any of you learned folks have pointers for the foll question please let > me know. > > I am trying to compile a 64 bit kernel from source on32 bit linux > > Sincerely > Anil--------- > > > -- > amd64-list mailing list > amd64-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/amd64-list > > -- Quentin Fennessy qfennessy at gmail.com From tweeks at rackspace.com Fri Nov 19 22:09:18 2004 From: tweeks at rackspace.com (tweeks) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:09:18 -0600 Subject: FC3 libraries (libstdc++.so.5, libXp) Missing? References: Message-ID: <419E6F0E.8C14AD22@rackspace.com> hansel at hansel.mnstate.edu wrote: > I hope I've done something wrong and that there is an easy fix. Awaiting > enlightenment from hopefully more knowledgeable folk. I bet they forgot about it because it's included in the OpenOffice suite. Tweeks From mlauterbach at mail.wtamu.edu Sat Nov 20 14:23:23 2004 From: mlauterbach at mail.wtamu.edu (Matthew E. Lauterbach) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 08:23:23 -0600 Subject: FC3 install on SATA Message-ID: <1100960603.9129.8.camel@mobile01> Has anyone had any luck with installing either i386 or x86_64 to SATA on an AMD64? I get kernel panics like in bug 139674 on boot. The patched kernel is not fixing it for me. This may be specific to my Chaintech VNF3-250 motherboard. The only other person I know of with this problem also has the same motherboard. Has anyone done a successful install of either i386 or x86_64 onto SATA with a nForce3 motherboard? Matthew E. Lauterbach From vamsee_k at students.iiit.net Sat Nov 20 18:58:17 2004 From: vamsee_k at students.iiit.net (G. Vamsee Krishna) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:28:17 +0530 (IST) Subject: FC3 install on SATA In-Reply-To: <1100960603.9129.8.camel@mobile01> Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Matthew E. Lauterbach wrote: > Has anyone had any luck with installing either i386 or x86_64 to SATA on > an AMD64? I get kernel panics like in bug 139674 on boot. The patched > kernel is not fixing it for me. This may be specific to my Chaintech > VNF3-250 motherboard. The only other person I know of with this problem > also has the same motherboard. Has anyone done a successful install of > either i386 or x86_64 onto SATA with a nForce3 motherboard? > > I've installed FC3 on my AMD64 (x86_64). Motherboard is MSI with VIA 8237 chipset and nVidia GeForce FX 5200 graphics card. Samsung SATA hard disk. Had only one problem only once. The installation exited with a message "installation terminate abnormally". I tried installing again and it worked fine. It seems to be very stable compared to FC2, atleast on my system. Regards, Vamsee -- experience is what you get when you don't get what you really wanted From mlauterbach at mail.wtamu.edu Sat Nov 20 22:27:19 2004 From: mlauterbach at mail.wtamu.edu (Matthew E. Lauterbach) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 16:27:19 -0600 Subject: FC3 install on SATA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1100989639.3637.5.camel@mobile01> On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 00:28 +0530, G. Vamsee Krishna wrote: > On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Matthew E. Lauterbach wrote: > > > Has anyone had any luck with installing either i386 or x86_64 to SATA on > > an AMD64? I get kernel panics like in bug 139674 on boot. The patched > > kernel is not fixing it for me. This may be specific to my Chaintech > > VNF3-250 motherboard. The only other person I know of with this problem > > also has the same motherboard. Has anyone done a successful install of > > either i386 or x86_64 onto SATA with a nForce3 motherboard? > > > > > I've installed FC3 on my AMD64 (x86_64). Motherboard is MSI with VIA 8237 > chipset and nVidia GeForce FX 5200 graphics card. Samsung SATA hard disk. > Had only one problem only once. The installation exited with a message > "installation terminate abnormally". I tried installing again and it > worked fine. It seems to be very stable compared to FC2, atleast on my > system. > Good to hear that it is working for some people. FC3 i386 is working well on my Dell laptop. Just some weird bug caused by my motherboard on the amd64 I guess. > Regards, > Vamsee > > > -- > experience is what you get when you don't get what you really wanted > Matthew E. Lauterbach From vamsee_k at students.iiit.net Sat Nov 20 23:41:38 2004 From: vamsee_k at students.iiit.net (G. Vamsee Krishna) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 05:11:38 +0530 (IST) Subject: FC3 install on SATA In-Reply-To: <1100989639.3637.5.camel@mobile01> Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Matthew E. Lauterbach wrote: > > Good to hear that it is working for some people. FC3 i386 is working > well on my Dell laptop. Just some weird bug caused by my motherboard on > the amd64 I guess. > Can someone tell me what's the performance-wise difference between a SATA and a normal (PATA) disk? The only difference I see is that SATA is taking up less bus/cable space inside my cabinet, thus allowing a better recycling of air :-) I'm running a FTP server and I can tell the difference when about 5 people are simultaneously copying files (700MB each). Is there no other difference between the disks or will I have to install any more drivers and stuff? Regards, Vamsee -- experience is what you get when you don't get what you really wanted From kockkinko at gmail.com Sun Nov 21 00:37:13 2004 From: kockkinko at gmail.com (kockkin ko) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:37:13 +0800 Subject: impatible libXext Message-ID: I have an amd64 box, and I installed mplayer by compiling the code using the convention ./configure, make and make install sequence. When configuring mplayer, I have this errors in configure.log, indicating impatible libXext as shown below. Then I use YUM update to update my FC3 335 packages, including all xorg-x11 x86_64 rpm packages. Reboot the system, re-do the ./configure. I still got the same error. Appreciate any one for any hint and help. Here the cut-out from configure.log indicating incompatible libXext. ============ Checking for X11 ============ #include #include int main(void) { (void) XCreateWindow(0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0); return 0; } cc /tmp/mplayer-conf-21693-4033.c -o /tmp/mplayer-conf-10428-4033.o -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXext -lX11 -lnsl /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so when searching for -lXext /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.a when searching for -lXext /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext collect2: ld returned 1 exit status ldd /tmp/mplayer-conf-10428-4033.o ldd: /tmp/mplayer-conf-10428-4033.o: No such file or directory Result is: no ########################################## regards, kockkin ko From kockkinko at gmail.com Mon Nov 22 00:51:55 2004 From: kockkinko at gmail.com (kockkin ko) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:51:55 +0800 Subject: FC3 install on SATA Message-ID: > > Has anyone had any luck with installing either i386 or x86_64 to SATA on > > an AMD64? Absoulely no problem with my MSI Neo KT800 board with a SATA drive. It worked instantly with FC2, FC3 test3, and now FC3. MSI and Fedora development community have a good match on this particular board. >Can someone tell me what's the performance-wise difference >between a SATA and a normal (PATA) disk? The only >difference I see is that SATA is taking >up less bus/cable space inside my cabinet, thus allowing a >better ecycling of air :-) some days ago, I did an investegation: PATA: 133 Mbytes/sec SATA: 150 Mbytes/sec (currently) >From a web reading, it said: "Current sata drive in the market that I have is simply a PATA with an internal serial converter inside." >From this point, I knew, I wasted my money. >I'm running a FTP server and I can tell the difference when >about 5 people are simultaneously copying files (700MB >each). Is there no other difference between the disks or will I >have to install any more drivers and stuff? Thank you for this data. It confirmed I wasted my money with SATA, indeed!!!! Not to mentioned the heartache I have to install my other favorite distros: free BSD, gentoo, LFS...... ooh I got more enough heartache and frustration to boot them!!!!!!!! ......... Kernel panic, never able to find the root partition. Other distros? ... Not even able to find the drive from the start of the installation. Disapointed!!!!! Appreciate anyone with any hint and suggestions. Regards, kockkin ko From vamsee_k at students.iiit.net Mon Nov 22 02:01:24 2004 From: vamsee_k at students.iiit.net (G. Vamsee Krishna) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 07:31:24 +0530 (IST) Subject: FC3 install on SATA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, kockkin ko wrote: > Not to mentioned the heartache I have to install my other favorite distros: > free BSD, gentoo, LFS...... ooh I got more enough heartache and > frustration to boot them!!!!!!!! ......... Kernel panic, never able to > find the root partition. > Other distros? ... Not even able to find the drive from the start of > the installation. Disapointed!!!!! > > Appreciate anyone with any hint and suggestions. > Disable SATA feature in your BIOS. Now the drive should be recognized as a normal PATA disk. Install Debian, recompile with SATA support and enable SATA. I'm not sure how this works as I've never tried it myself. Try googling for "SATA support for Debian". If it works for Debian, it should work for other distros. Vamsee -- experience is what you get when you don't get what you really wanted From mlauterbach at mail.wtamu.edu Mon Nov 22 02:39:14 2004 From: mlauterbach at mail.wtamu.edu (Matthew E. Lauterbach) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:39:14 -0600 Subject: FC3 install on SATA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1101091154.16495.5.camel@mobile01> On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 07:31 +0530, G. Vamsee Krishna wrote: > On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, kockkin ko wrote: > > > Not to mentioned the heartache I have to install my other favorite distros: > > free BSD, gentoo, LFS...... ooh I got more enough heartache and > > frustration to boot them!!!!!!!! ......... Kernel panic, never able to > > find the root partition. > > Other distros? ... Not even able to find the drive from the start of > > the installation. Disapointed!!!!! > > > > Appreciate anyone with any hint and suggestions. > > > Disable SATA feature in your BIOS. Now the drive should be recognized as a > normal PATA disk. Install Debian, recompile with SATA support and enable > SATA. I'm not sure how this works as I've never tried it myself. Try > googling for "SATA support for Debian". If it works for Debian, it should > work for other distros. I'm going to have to agree that for the time being the performance benefits of SATA are far outweighed by the problems I have had with the device in Linux. This will improve over time. The more people that use SATA now the more quickly this will happen. I would not advise using SATA on a production Linux box yet. If you're running a server use SCSI. Matthew E. Lauterbach From Jason.Russler at noaa.gov Wed Nov 24 02:37:08 2004 From: Jason.Russler at noaa.gov (Jason Russler) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:37:08 -0500 Subject: SMBFS connections; kernel version 2.6.9-1.681_FC3 Message-ID: <41A3F3D4.5000101@noaa.gov> The latest kernel upgrade breaks smbfs it appears. Volumes will mount but they'll generate IO errors if you try to write to them (tested with shares from a Windows 2000 box and SaMBa shares from a NetBSD box on SPARC64, and an HP-UX 11 box). Anyone know what's causeing this? Version 2.6.9-1.678_FC3 works fine for me. This seems like a pretty major oversight so I assume it's x86_64 specific? From hayward-redhat at loup.net Thu Nov 25 16:00:53 2004 From: hayward-redhat at loup.net (hayward-redhat at loup.net) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:00:53 -0700 Subject: sata_sil driver Message-ID: <200411251600.iAPG0r209316@flux.loup.net> I bought three tyan thunder S2882 dual opteron server motherboards nearly a year ago and have had no luck booting hardly any distribution I try. I got SuSE 8.0 working about a year ago but SATA support is nearly non-existent. Thought I'd try FC3 since it's been another year, but it locks up after the kernel has loaded and it says it's loading the sata_sil driver which is probably compiled as a module. I'm not sure how to stop the driver from loading, but I don't think the kernel is doing it automatically. I'm fairly confident it's the problem; the system locks up hard and only a hard reset will get it going again. I have upgraded to Tyan's most recent bios with upgrades for the Sil3114 and tried rescue and noprobe, etc. but all of them try loading the sata_sil driver and so lock up. I do want to use the Sil3114 SATA chipset, which is why I bought the machines and a bunch of SATA drives but still no luck. Is anyone else getting FC3 working on Tyan SATA motherboards? The Tyan site claims Redhat Enterprise is working on the motherboards, so there must be significant installer boot differences between RHAT and FC3? - Mike From mark at harddata.com Thu Nov 25 16:26:04 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark Lane) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:26:04 -0700 Subject: sata_sil driver In-Reply-To: <200411251600.iAPG0r209316@flux.loup.net> References: <200411251600.iAPG0r209316@flux.loup.net> Message-ID: <200411250926.04611.mark@harddata.com> On November 25, 2004 09:00 am, hayward-redhat at loup.net wrote: > I bought three tyan thunder S2882 dual opteron server motherboards > nearly a year ago and have had no luck booting hardly any distribution > I try. I got SuSE 8.0 working about a year ago but SATA support is > nearly non-existent. Thought I'd try FC3 since it's been another > year, but it locks up after the kernel has loaded and it says it's > loading the sata_sil driver which is probably compiled as a module. > I'm not sure how to stop the driver from loading, but I don't think > the kernel is doing it automatically. I'm fairly confident it's the > problem; the system locks up hard and only a hard reset will get it > going again. I have upgraded to Tyan's most recent bios with upgrades > for the Sil3114 and tried rescue and noprobe, etc. but all of them try > loading the sata_sil driver and so lock up. I do want to use the > Sil3114 SATA chipset, which is why I bought the machines and a bunch > of SATA drives but still no luck. > > Is anyone else getting FC3 working on Tyan SATA motherboards? The > Tyan site claims Redhat Enterprise is working on the motherboards, so > there must be significant installer boot differences between RHAT and > FC3? I have had RHEL 3.0, FC1, FC2 and FC3 working with onboard SATA and the Tyan S2882. No problems. Are you sure the system is hanging as selinux really slows stuff down if enabled? -- Mark Lane, CET -- mailto:mark at harddata.com Sales Manager -- Hard Data Ltd -- http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 -- F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our New Dual and 4 Way Blade Servers <-- From hayward-redhat at loup.net Thu Nov 25 17:20:37 2004 From: hayward-redhat at loup.net (hayward-redhat at loup.net) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 10:20:37 -0700 Subject: Booting Tyan S2882 Dual Opteron on FC3 Message-ID: <200411251720.iAPHKbl09393@flux.loup.net> Ok, further testing turning of the BIOS sata support shows it isn't the sata_sil driver since it still locks up. The media is fine and the hardware is operable. I can install SuSE 9.0 on the box and it works pretty well and is what I've been using for the last year. FC3 locks up when it hits /sbin/loader, my thinking now is maybe due to a problem with the ATAPI cd-rom driver since I notice io errors on hdb (my cd-rom) with the FC3 boot kernel. Similar problems with FC1 and FC2 boot kernels. I've never been able to get FC for x86_64 to even install. Any ideas? - Mike From networkr0 at cfl.rr.com Thu Nov 25 17:30:49 2004 From: networkr0 at cfl.rr.com (Brian Chase) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 12:30:49 -0500 Subject: Booting Tyan S2882 Dual Opteron on FC3 In-Reply-To: <200411251720.iAPHKbl09393@flux.loup.net> References: <200411251720.iAPHKbl09393@flux.loup.net> Message-ID: <41A616C9.4020505@cfl.rr.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Brian Chase Subject: Re: sata_sil driver Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:53:52 -0500 Size: 2044 URL: From mole at quadra.ru Thu Nov 25 19:45:01 2004 From: mole at quadra.ru (Oleg Makarenko) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 22:45:01 +0300 Subject: Booting Tyan S2882 Dual Opteron on FC3 In-Reply-To: <200411251720.iAPHKbl09393@flux.loup.net> References: <200411251720.iAPHKbl09393@flux.loup.net> Message-ID: <41A6363D.8030708@quadra.ru> hayward-redhat at loup.net wrote: >FC3 locks up when it hits /sbin/loader > > I had similar problem during FC3 install. Ctrl-Alt-Del still works but installation stops on /sbin/loader message. I tried to disable sata in BIOS, acpi=off etc etc without any effect. But when I'd unplugged my usb DBT120 bluetooth adapter (and all other usb devices I have) the installation continued without any problems. It looks like at least some of USB devices (it is hardly only DBT120) cause installation to hang. =oleg From hayward-redhat at loup.net Fri Nov 26 19:22:51 2004 From: hayward-redhat at loup.net (hayward-redhat at loup.net) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 12:22:51 -0700 Subject: FC3 on Tyan Thunder Opteron S2882 Message-ID: <200411261922.iAQJMpQ10932@flux.loup.net> First of all, thanks to the folks with Tyan Opteron motherboards for inspiring me. Knowing that FC3 x86_64 will install on someone else's S2882 convinced me there must be something funky with either my media and/or cdrom drive. I know my motherboards, CPU's and RAM are definitely ok. I have three of them and they've all been running SuSE 9.0 (which I installed over the network after booting via the Samsung cdrw/dvd SN-324 I got with one of the systems) just fine for a year and I've never had a problem with lock ups, memory corruptions, etc. I don't have any USB devices or hardware plugged in aside from a monitor, keyboard and mouse. I can boot FC1 for i386 just fine on the opteron system and use it to mediacheck the FC3 x86_64 Disk #1 successfully. I can also mount the media and browse it on two other drives on another machine so there is no reason to believe the media is bad or even incompatible with the drive. When booting any FC install it is interesting to note that I always get the following types of kernel messages but with FC i386 it doesn't seem to stop it. In fact these error messages are probably media related since I get them when booting x86 boxes as well. <4>usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout <4>usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout <6>cdrom: open failed. <7>ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3 <7>ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A <4>Unable to identify CD-ROM format. <4>VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev loop(7,0). When booting FC3 Disk #1 after the /sbin/loader prompt I also get kernel messages indicating errors trying to read from the cdrw/dvd drive. There must be an atapi driver difference between FC1 x86 and FC3 x86_64 and somehow my dvd/cd-rw drive exposes the problem: <4>hdb: status timeout: status=0xf0 { Busy } <4>hdb: status timeout: error=0xf9IllegalLengthIndication MediaChangeRequested LastFailedSense 0x0f <6>hdb: DMA disabled <3>hdb: drive not ready for command <4>hdb: ATAPI reset timed-out, status-0xf9 <3>Buffer I/O error on device hdb, logical block ???? <4>end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, secor ????? I switched to an old HP cdrw from another machine I used to burn the media and I no longer get these errors. I notice it runs in PIO3 instead of PIO4 mode since it's an older slower drive. FC3 x86_64 now installs just fine... this is the first time I've gotten FC x86_64 working since I always figured it was a kernel / motherboard incompatiblity. Perhaps my Samsung cdrw/dvd is defective, but is strange to me that it works works fine from other distros and with FC1 i386... maybe they are running it slower and it is speed related. I find myself wondering if it would help to have Samsung replace the cdrw/dvd drive since the errors only occur when installing FC x86_64. - Mike From hayward-redhat at loup.net Fri Nov 26 23:38:35 2004 From: hayward-redhat at loup.net (hayward-redhat at loup.net) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:38:35 -0700 Subject: cdrw/dvd driver lockup / Silicon Image 3114 SATA Performance In-Reply-To: <41A783C4.60506@datawire.net> (message from Ken Snider on Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:28:04 -0500) References: <200411261922.iAQJMpQ10932@flux.loup.net> <41A783C4.60506@datawire.net> Message-ID: <200411262338.iAQNcZJ11116@flux.loup.net> Hi Ken, > There has recently been significant discussion of issues just like this on > the fedora-test-list - this may be something FC3 specific (or > recent-kernel-specific). > > Last I saw, Alan Cox was poking into the issue further. After getting FC3 x86_64 up and running, if I put a disk in the cdrw/dvd drive it immediately locks the entire kernel hard. These problems were exhibited with the cdrw/dvd as the only device on the bus and these newer drives are designed to cable select anyway, so it is not an installation problem. Even if it were an installation problem or defective drive, it shouldn't hard lock the kernel like that. Now that I have FC3 running, this is clearly a driver issue. Glad to see ac is looking into this and it isn't just me. The sata_sil and sata_promise drivers now actually work without crashing, although the performance is limited to an anemic 90MB/s on my Tyan S2882's Sil3114 chipset. Even though it supports four drives, I can max out the bandwidth with two since just one of my Maxtors will deliver about 57MB/s sequential read. This is very disappointing as the S2882 bus speeds should be able to handle at least 400MB/s to and from the Sil3114. It would appear Tyan has crippled their motherboard with a crappy SATA chipset. I plan to run eight drives off of this machine so I'll have to experiment with dual pci-x four port sata cards. The Promise SATA150 TX4 card I put in has a driver that sucks way less cpu and spanks the Silicon Image chipset / driver.. I get the full 116MB/s out of my two SATA drives doing sequential read here. Thanks for the help. - Mike From justin.conover at gmail.com Sat Nov 27 20:06:20 2004 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 14:06:20 -0600 Subject: libfam.so.0 is needed by package gnome-vfs2 on FC3 Message-ID: On every fc3 x86_64 box I have installed for the last week or so, can not install gamin/gamin-devel. The only way around this is to: # yum --exclude=gamin --exclude=gamin-devel update So obviusly I'm not getting those updates. Is there a fix or bug on this? --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: libfam.so.0 for package: gnome-vfs2 --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: libfam.so.0 is needed by package gnome-vfs2 From justin.conover at gmail.com Sat Nov 27 20:18:21 2004 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 14:18:21 -0600 Subject: libfam.so.0 is needed by package gnome-vfs2 on FC3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=140679 Found it, ignore this ;) On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 14:06:20 -0600, Justin Conover wrote: > On every fc3 x86_64 box I have installed for the last week or so, can > not install gamin/gamin-devel. > > The only way around this is to: > > # yum --exclude=gamin --exclude=gamin-devel update > > So obviusly I'm not getting those updates. > > Is there a fix or bug on this? > > --> Running transaction check > --> Processing Dependency: libfam.so.0 for package: gnome-vfs2 > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > Error: Missing Dependency: libfam.so.0 is needed by package gnome-vfs2 > From McIntoshJ at missouri.edu Mon Nov 29 21:31:03 2004 From: McIntoshJ at missouri.edu (Jason McIntosh) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:31:03 -0600 Subject: RHAS 3, dual opteron S2885 Tyan kernel crash issues Message-ID: I thought I'd see if anyone else was having issues with a Tyan Dual Opteron box. I'm using the SIL 3114 with two 160GB harddrives (Software RAID1 through Linux) drivers built in to RHAS, on a Tyan S2885 motherboard. I'm getting a lot of recurring crashes, particularly when I try and run in SMP mode. I'd like to upgrade to kernel 2.6 as it has much better support for the Opterons, but had issues with the LVM configuration. So, if anyone has some suggestions there, I'd be open to them. Is it a matter of just upgrading the LVM packages to version 2? Any chance of using the packages from the latest Nahant beta to get this to work? Other comments/suggestions from anyone else who's got a similar configuration? Thanks! Jason Jason McIntosh Programmer/Analyst University of Missouri 573-884-3865 GnuPG Key: http://poetshome.com/about/mcintoshj_missouri.edu.gpgkey -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 929 bytes Desc: not available URL: