From PerSteinar.Iversen at hio.no Thu May 12 12:20:07 2005 From: PerSteinar.Iversen at hio.no (Per Steinar Iversen) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 14:20:07 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Fedora Core 3 and hp Proliant DL 585 Message-ID: I am playing with a new hp Proliant DL 585, 2xOpteron 850 and 8GB RAM. FC3 installs nicely and upgrades too. However it usually crashes after some time if I run the SMP kernel. The UP kernel works well and seems stable. Are there any known stability issues with FC3 and SMP on the x86_64 platform? And, the RAM in this machine is mounted on the CPU boards, it is possible to have one CPU with say 4GB and one with 6GB RAM - is this likely to cause problems? -psi From e2.bady at gmail.com Thu May 12 12:57:10 2005 From: e2.bady at gmail.com (Bady) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 07:57:10 -0500 Subject: Xeron Sonic Movie M11A Message-ID: Ok I posted this at linuxquestions.org but obviously nobody know there because nobody is writing me back :( so I'm asking here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=322199 Ok I was thinking about buying a new Notebook. Mainly to Work, Game, and do my school work(CAD, Programming). I found this notebook from Xeron and I thought it is a pretty cool notebook for a decent price. The only thing I'm kinda worried about is the graphic card, but as I read in this forum this won't be a big problem. Mobile AMD Mobile Athlon 64? 3400+ 128 MB ATI Radeon Mobility 9700 (M11) 2GB RAM 100GB (5400rpm) DVD/CDRW Combo But for nearly 2050 Euros($2665) this is a lot of money for a student and so I want to make sure my Vector Linux(Based on Slackware) will work and I will be able to run Quake 4 and some other new games.... thx in advance And than my second question: Is anyone using the Sandisk Mp3 PLayer(1GB)? I was thinking about buying this one... will it run without me having trouble? thx Bady -- IIIII IIIIIII | - - | ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-|||-oOOo---------------------------------------------------------------- (_) Sebastian van Wickern Albert Einstein: "Es ist leichter, ein Atom zu zertr?mmern, als ein Vorurteil." Albert Einstein: "It is easier to destroy an atom than a prejudice." ------------Oooo----------------------------------------------------------------- oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From berryja at gmail.com Thu May 12 15:23:30 2005 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:23:30 -0500 Subject: Xeron Sonic Movie M11A In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8767947e05051208232918e301@mail.gmail.com> On 5/12/05, Bady wrote: > Ok I posted this at linuxquestions.org but obviously nobody know there > because nobody is writing me back :( so I'm asking here: > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=322199 > > Ok I was thinking about buying a new Notebook. Mainly to Work, Game, > and do my school work(CAD, Programming). I found this notebook from > Xeron and I thought it is a pretty cool notebook for a decent price. > The only thing I'm kinda worried about is the graphic card, but as I > read in this forum this won't be a big problem. > > Mobile AMD Mobile Athlon 64? 3400+ > 128 MB ATI Radeon Mobility 9700 (M11) > 2GB RAM > 100GB (5400rpm) > DVD/CDRW Combo > > But for nearly 2050 Euros($2665) this is a lot of money for a student > and so I want to make sure my Vector Linux(Based on Slackware) will > work and I will be able to run Quake 4 and some other new games.... If you want an AMD64 laptop, I highly recommend the Compaq Presario R4000 series: http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_series.do?series_name=R4000_series&catLevel=2&category=notebooks/compaq_presario&storeName=computer_store With the hardware maxed out, it's still under $2000 (USD). I have an R3000Z (it's predecessor) and it runs very well. Unfortunately, for the R4000 HP decided to go with an ATi card (the R3000 has an nVidia GF4 440 Go), so you might run into the same difficulties there. The 100 GB disk is 4200 rpm instead of 5400; you could go with the 80 GB 5400 if speed is more important than space (I'd recommend it). You can get 2 GB of RAM, a DVD burner, and an AMD Athlon 64 4000+ (I think a socket 939 too, so dual channel memory). I've never heard of Xeron, but the Compaq looks like a better computer for less. There are some Linux issues, though. The wireless is a Broadcom chipset, so no native support. It works great with ndiswrapper and the 64-bit windows driver, but there seems to be issues with that driver and having > 1 GB or RAM. Of course, the ATi card is a concern. It certainly won't work out-of-the-box. There is a great user base for the R3000, though, and there are some people trying out the R4000 now on this list: http://lists.pcxperience.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxr3000 So you wouldn't be alone in trying to troubleshoot things. > thx in advance > > And than my second question: > > Is anyone using the Sandisk Mp3 PLayer(1GB)? I was thinking about > buying this one... will it run without me having trouble? Don't know anything about this one, sorry. > thx > > Bady Jonathan From jay at scherrer.com Fri May 13 05:19:29 2005 From: jay at scherrer.com (Jay Scherrer) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 22:19:29 -0700 Subject: Xeron Sonic Movie M11A In-Reply-To: <8767947e05051208232918e301@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e05051208232918e301@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1115961570.6733.18.camel@gimly> Soory for the blurb, (I just Couldn't resist) I can custom build from ASUS white boxes. You are in control of the box. Up to three year warranty on the hardware. If you want Linux pre-installed, I will install to your specifications. Generous discounts on Quantity orders. I've been running Fedora core 3 x86_64 on my ASUS Z8100 DVD 80gig hd 1 gig mem for months now. cost USD $1300 + shipping. Price references: notebooks Drop shipping available. Jay Scherrer Scherrer Company On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 10:23 -0500, Jonathan Berry wrote: > On 5/12/05, Bady wrote: > > Ok I posted this at linuxquestions.org but obviously nobody know there > > because nobody is writing me back :( so I'm asking here: > > > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=322199 > > > > Ok I was thinking about buying a new Notebook. Mainly to Work, Game, > > and do my school work(CAD, Programming). I found this notebook from > > Xeron and I thought it is a pretty cool notebook for a decent price. > > The only thing I'm kinda worried about is the graphic card, but as I > > read in this forum this won't be a big problem. > > > > Mobile AMD Mobile Athlon 64? 3400+ > > 128 MB ATI Radeon Mobility 9700 (M11) > > 2GB RAM > > 100GB (5400rpm) > > DVD/CDRW Combo > > > > But for nearly 2050 Euros($2665) this is a lot of money for a student > > and so I want to make sure my Vector Linux(Based on Slackware) will > > work and I will be able to run Quake 4 and some other new games.... > > If you want an AMD64 laptop, I highly recommend the Compaq Presario > R4000 series: > > http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_series.do?series_name=R4000_series&catLevel=2&category=notebooks/compaq_presario&storeName=computer_store > > With the hardware maxed out, it's still under $2000 (USD). I have an > R3000Z (it's predecessor) and it runs very well. Unfortunately, for > the R4000 HP decided to go with an ATi card (the R3000 has an nVidia > GF4 440 Go), so you might run into the same difficulties there. The > 100 GB disk is 4200 rpm instead of 5400; you could go with the 80 GB > 5400 if speed is more important than space (I'd recommend it). You > can get 2 GB of RAM, a DVD burner, and an AMD Athlon 64 4000+ (I think > a socket 939 too, so dual channel memory). I've never heard of Xeron, > but the Compaq looks like a better computer for less. > > There are some Linux issues, though. The wireless is a Broadcom > chipset, so no native support. It works great with ndiswrapper and > the 64-bit windows driver, but there seems to be issues with that > driver and having > 1 GB or RAM. Of course, the ATi card is a > concern. It certainly won't work out-of-the-box. There is a great > user base for the R3000, though, and there are some people trying out > the R4000 now on this list: > http://lists.pcxperience.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxr3000 > So you wouldn't be alone in trying to troubleshoot things. > > > thx in advance > > > > And than my second question: > > > > Is anyone using the Sandisk Mp3 PLayer(1GB)? I was thinking about > > buying this one... will it run without me having trouble? > > Don't know anything about this one, sorry. > > > thx > > > > Bady > > Jonathan > From e2.bady at gmail.com Fri May 13 12:43:15 2005 From: e2.bady at gmail.com (Bady) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 07:43:15 -0500 Subject: Xeron Sonic Movie M11A In-Reply-To: <1115961570.6733.18.camel@gimly> References: <8767947e05051208232918e301@mail.gmail.com> <1115961570.6733.18.camel@gimly> Message-ID: Wow HP is wonderfull more Laptop for lesser money :) and the dollar is not as much worth as the Euro right now so I can buy alot of laptop for my money..... :) Yust gotta hope that they ship to germany........ thx to everybody oh yeah Jay do you ship international? thx Bady On 5/13/05, Jay Scherrer wrote: > Soory for the blurb, > (I just Couldn't resist) > I can custom build from ASUS white boxes. > You are in control of the box. Up to three year warranty on the > hardware. If you want Linux pre-installed, I will install to your > specifications. Generous discounts on Quantity orders. > I've been running Fedora core 3 x86_64 on my ASUS Z8100 DVD 80gig hd 1 > gig mem for months now. cost USD $1300 + shipping. > Price references: > notebooks > Drop shipping available. > > Jay Scherrer > Scherrer Company > > > > On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 10:23 -0500, Jonathan Berry wrote: > > On 5/12/05, Bady wrote: > > > Ok I posted this at linuxquestions.org but obviously nobody know there > > > because nobody is writing me back :( so I'm asking here: > > > > > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=322199 > > > > > > Ok I was thinking about buying a new Notebook. Mainly to Work, Game, > > > and do my school work(CAD, Programming). I found this notebook from > > > Xeron and I thought it is a pretty cool notebook for a decent price. > > > The only thing I'm kinda worried about is the graphic card, but as I > > > read in this forum this won't be a big problem. > > > > > > Mobile AMD Mobile Athlon 64? 3400+ > > > 128 MB ATI Radeon Mobility 9700 (M11) > > > 2GB RAM > > > 100GB (5400rpm) > > > DVD/CDRW Combo > > > > > > But for nearly 2050 Euros($2665) this is a lot of money for a student > > > and so I want to make sure my Vector Linux(Based on Slackware) will > > > work and I will be able to run Quake 4 and some other new games.... > > > > If you want an AMD64 laptop, I highly recommend the Compaq Presario > > R4000 series: > > > > http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_series.do?series_name=R4000_series&catLevel=2&category=notebooks/compaq_presario&storeName=computer_store > > > > With the hardware maxed out, it's still under $2000 (USD). I have an > > R3000Z (it's predecessor) and it runs very well. Unfortunately, for > > the R4000 HP decided to go with an ATi card (the R3000 has an nVidia > > GF4 440 Go), so you might run into the same difficulties there. The > > 100 GB disk is 4200 rpm instead of 5400; you could go with the 80 GB > > 5400 if speed is more important than space (I'd recommend it). You > > can get 2 GB of RAM, a DVD burner, and an AMD Athlon 64 4000+ (I think > > a socket 939 too, so dual channel memory). I've never heard of Xeron, > > but the Compaq looks like a better computer for less. > > > > There are some Linux issues, though. The wireless is a Broadcom > > chipset, so no native support. It works great with ndiswrapper and > > the 64-bit windows driver, but there seems to be issues with that > > driver and having > 1 GB or RAM. Of course, the ATi card is a > > concern. It certainly won't work out-of-the-box. There is a great > > user base for the R3000, though, and there are some people trying out > > the R4000 now on this list: > > http://lists.pcxperience.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxr3000 > > So you wouldn't be alone in trying to troubleshoot things. > > > > > thx in advance > > > > > > And than my second question: > > > > > > Is anyone using the Sandisk Mp3 PLayer(1GB)? I was thinking about > > > buying this one... will it run without me having trouble? > > > > Don't know anything about this one, sorry. > > > > > thx > > > > > > Bady > > > > Jonathan > > > > -- IIIII IIIIIII | - - | ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-|||-oOOo---------------------------------------------------------------- (_) Sebastian van Wickern Albert Einstein: "Es ist leichter, ein Atom zu zertr?mmern, als ein Vorurteil." Albert Einstein: "It is easier to destroy an atom than a prejudice." ------------Oooo----------------------------------------------------------------- oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From e2.bady at gmail.com Fri May 13 14:13:33 2005 From: e2.bady at gmail.com (Bady) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 09:13:33 -0500 Subject: Xeron Sonic Movie M11A In-Reply-To: References: <8767947e05051208232918e301@mail.gmail.com> <1115961570.6733.18.camel@gimly> Message-ID: I can't find the R4000, or the R3000 on the online Store from HP in Germany...... :( anybody any ideas? thx Bady On 5/13/05, Bady wrote: > Wow HP is wonderfull more Laptop for lesser money :) and the dollar is > not as much worth as the Euro right now so I can buy alot of laptop > for my money..... :) Yust gotta hope that they ship to germany........ > thx to everybody oh yeah Jay do you ship international? > > thx > > Bady > > On 5/13/05, Jay Scherrer wrote: > > Soory for the blurb, > > (I just Couldn't resist) > > I can custom build from ASUS white boxes. > > You are in control of the box. Up to three year warranty on the > > hardware. If you want Linux pre-installed, I will install to your > > specifications. Generous discounts on Quantity orders. > > I've been running Fedora core 3 x86_64 on my ASUS Z8100 DVD 80gig hd 1 > > gig mem for months now. cost USD $1300 + shipping. > > Price references: > > notebooks > > Drop shipping available. > > > > Jay Scherrer > > Scherrer Company > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 10:23 -0500, Jonathan Berry wrote: > > > On 5/12/05, Bady wrote: > > > > Ok I posted this at linuxquestions.org but obviously nobody know there > > > > because nobody is writing me back :( so I'm asking here: > > > > > > > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=322199 > > > > > > > > Ok I was thinking about buying a new Notebook. Mainly to Work, Game, > > > > and do my school work(CAD, Programming). I found this notebook from > > > > Xeron and I thought it is a pretty cool notebook for a decent price. > > > > The only thing I'm kinda worried about is the graphic card, but as I > > > > read in this forum this won't be a big problem. > > > > > > > > Mobile AMD Mobile Athlon 64? 3400+ > > > > 128 MB ATI Radeon Mobility 9700 (M11) > > > > 2GB RAM > > > > 100GB (5400rpm) > > > > DVD/CDRW Combo > > > > > > > > But for nearly 2050 Euros($2665) this is a lot of money for a student > > > > and so I want to make sure my Vector Linux(Based on Slackware) will > > > > work and I will be able to run Quake 4 and some other new games.... > > > > > > If you want an AMD64 laptop, I highly recommend the Compaq Presario > > > R4000 series: > > > > > > http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_series.do?series_name=R4000_series&catLevel=2&category=notebooks/compaq_presario&storeName=computer_store > > > > > > With the hardware maxed out, it's still under $2000 (USD). I have an > > > R3000Z (it's predecessor) and it runs very well. Unfortunately, for > > > the R4000 HP decided to go with an ATi card (the R3000 has an nVidia > > > GF4 440 Go), so you might run into the same difficulties there. The > > > 100 GB disk is 4200 rpm instead of 5400; you could go with the 80 GB > > > 5400 if speed is more important than space (I'd recommend it). You > > > can get 2 GB of RAM, a DVD burner, and an AMD Athlon 64 4000+ (I think > > > a socket 939 too, so dual channel memory). I've never heard of Xeron, > > > but the Compaq looks like a better computer for less. > > > > > > There are some Linux issues, though. The wireless is a Broadcom > > > chipset, so no native support. It works great with ndiswrapper and > > > the 64-bit windows driver, but there seems to be issues with that > > > driver and having > 1 GB or RAM. Of course, the ATi card is a > > > concern. It certainly won't work out-of-the-box. There is a great > > > user base for the R3000, though, and there are some people trying out > > > the R4000 now on this list: > > > http://lists.pcxperience.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxr3000 > > > So you wouldn't be alone in trying to troubleshoot things. > > > > > > > thx in advance > > > > > > > > And than my second question: > > > > > > > > Is anyone using the Sandisk Mp3 PLayer(1GB)? I was thinking about > > > > buying this one... will it run without me having trouble? > > > > > > Don't know anything about this one, sorry. > > > > > > > thx > > > > > > > > Bady > > > > > > Jonathan > > > > > > > > > -- > > IIIII > IIIIIII > | - - | > ( @ @ ) > ----oOOo-|||-oOOo---------------------------------------------------------------- > (_) > Sebastian van Wickern > Albert Einstein: "Es ist leichter, ein Atom zu zertr?mmern, als ein > Vorurteil." > Albert Einstein: "It is easier to destroy an atom than a prejudice." > ------------Oooo----------------------------------------------------------------- > oooO ( ) > ( ) ) / > \ ( (_/ > \_) > -- IIIII IIIIIII | - - | ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-|||-oOOo---------------------------------------------------------------- (_) Sebastian van Wickern Albert Einstein: "Es ist leichter, ein Atom zu zertr?mmern, als ein Vorurteil." Albert Einstein: "It is easier to destroy an atom than a prejudice." ------------Oooo----------------------------------------------------------------- oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From berryja at gmail.com Fri May 13 14:22:02 2005 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 09:22:02 -0500 Subject: Xeron Sonic Movie M11A In-Reply-To: References: <8767947e05051208232918e301@mail.gmail.com> <1115961570.6733.18.camel@gimly> Message-ID: <8767947e05051307229b17c27@mail.gmail.com> On 5/13/05, Bady wrote: > I can't find the R4000, or the R3000 on the online Store from HP in > Germany...... :( anybody any ideas? > > thx > > Bady Those are actually under the Compaq name. Looks like the German section doesn't have Compaq. Here are the HP equivalents (the vz5000 (like R3000) and vz6000 series (like R4000)): http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/de/de/ho/WF25a/21259-186005-315105-315105-315105-12090936.html http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/de/de/ho/WF25a/21259-186005-315105-315105-315105-12151068.html It doesn't look like you can customize them, though. Will the US store not ship to Germany, then? Jonathan