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Re: Reworking the Keyboard spoke

On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 08:56 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 13:36 +0100, Vratislav Podzimek wrote:
> > > The main problem I see with this is it's unclear what 'default' means.
> > Maybe we could use something like 'Use for console' instead? Are people
> > going to be confused not knowing what the console is? Is there any
> > better wording for this? Maybe "Console keymap"?
> > 
> > In any case I believe we should give users way to configure which of the
> > layouts should be used for the VConsole.
> It'll almost certainly confuse someone, unfortunately, yeah :/
> I think probably people in countries which have this 'non-ASCII layout'
> issue will often be aware of this bear trap and will know what we're
> getting at and appreciate it...but other people probably won't. I only
> vaguely understood this whole thing about there being one layout at the
> console and another in X until I went deep-diving into the whole thing
> last year; I suspect that even for most 'technical' people, the part of
> their brain marked KEYBOARD LAYOUTS does a lot of hand-waving, and they
> may well not be able to parse exactly what's going on. Even those
> Russians (etc) who know about this issue might not specifically know
> that the configuration they want is for the layout labelled
> 'Russian' (or whatever) to be selected as the console layout.
Well, langtable can tell us if the default keyboard layout for the
chosen language is ASCII-friendly or not. So we could show these things
just to people who are likely to know about the issues.

Maybe some wording pointing about that it will be the layout/keymap for
the boot process would be useful?

> But it might be something that's easiest to judge from a mockup, and
> maybe run by a few users of different types (American, Russian, French?)
> to see what they made of it.
That would definitely be useful. Let's get the layout of the spoke done
and we can then provide an updates.img that e.g. subscribers of the test
and devel lists could use and provide feedback.

Vratislav Podzimek

Anaconda Rider | Red Hat, Inc. | Brno - Czech Republic

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