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Re: Polishing the installer

Hi Vratisvav

I am an old IT person with 50 years of IT development experience, and 10 years with enjoying the use of Fedora.  I agree with all your comments.  May I offer some of my comments? 

If we see Fedora 21 as being a desktop system, then it must impress the user with the feeling of it being very well polished and with layouts that are well thought out.
For example, anaconda must make the user not have to ask "What does this mean", when he is given choices. A help button should be provided for each section. Release notes to be written as one would do a "For dummies book", with sections displayed for the task that the user is to do next.

In my view, during the installation steps, one should force disk selection to be first, followed by a format (no going back).  My justification for so doing follows:

The DVD or flash drive contents could be copied to disk, where there is ample disk space. This allows the installation to work from that disk. Please consider that faster devices (SSDs are coming), so this idea should be seriously considered.  I am, of course, not considering the live Images for Fedora21.

Another thought, Anaconda should be a stub that picks up the very latest Anaconda version from the ISO image.  As far as I (mis)read, anaconda is one version behind the version that is provided within the ISO file.  Picking up that later image would be possible if the image was written to disk.

Could one not develop an executable stub that reads the iso image, and does not force the user to download and subsequently convert that 3.5gig image to a bootable DVD or flashdrive?

For what it is worth, I have used the sequence  wgetc  http:Fedora.iso  piped to  dd  >  /dev/flashdrive , and I avoided one long step, the unnecessary step of burning an iso image to flashdrive after fully downloading that image.

Most of all, I agree without exception, to your comments.

Mr. Leslie Satenstein
In IT since 1970.

From: Vratislav Podzimek <vpodzime redhat com>
To: Discussion of Development and Customization of the Red Hat Linux Installer <anaconda-devel-list redhat com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: Polishing the installer

On Tue, 2014-03-11 at 10:41 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
> Now that the basic layout is set aside the customization of partition,
> it will
> be nice to provide a professional look to the installer for fedora.next
> workstation system.
> I wonder if the layout is responsive depending of the size of the screen.
> When starting the installer, it will be nice to display an nice
> graphical screen
> rather than a typical text mode (similar to the way Fedora starts with a
> bootloader). Same principle should apply when rebooting after the
> installation.
> Granted the idea is not really important. However, with the increase of
> Fedora
> as workstation, those refinements will only enhance the overall
> experience of
> Fedora Workstation and other part of Fedora.next. Considering Fedora 21
> Final Release will not be avail until October 2014, I think this is a
> good opportunity to polish the whole installer.
> I was inspired by the way iOS is installed and updated on the iMac.
I remember some discussions on whether we want the Plymouth boot splash
when booting the installer or not, but I'm not sure it ended up with
some final statement we are expected to follow. However, if you hit ESC
when booting the installer, Plymouth appears and runs properly AFAICT.

Vratislav Podzimek

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