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Fedora LiveOS, journal missing ~25s of early boot



Hi,

Summary: On Fedora LiveOS, e.g.
Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-Rawhide-20190728.n.1.iso, the journal
is missing the first 20-30s of all boot/startup related messages. The
reason is a bit complicated, systemd-journald appears to have a bug
wanting keep_free space too high, and Fedora's lives have had
shrinking free space consistently over time as the "payload" gets
bigger. The result is now systemd-journald almost immediately vacuums
the first journal file, deleting it, causing the loss of early boot
and startup messages.

Why I think Anaconda team might care: LiveOS is inherently a
non-deterministic environment for the installer, and losing a bunch of
early boot and startup messages like all the liveos assembly, the
overlay (whether dm or overlayfs based in the future), networking,
udev and other non-kernel device discovery, and dracut debug messages
- don't exist in the journal and quite a lot of such messages for
whatever reason do not forward to console or kmsg when using
systemd.journald.forward_to_X parameters. Therefore if the journal is
deleted, the messages are flat out gone and any troubleshooting and
introspection is really difficult.

I proposed this as a blocker bug.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1715699

It's been rejected twice, mainly because the Fedora Basic Release
Criterion for system logging applies to the post-installed system. It
doesn't apply to any of the installer images. So there is a proposal
over on test@ list to change the location of this requirement so that
it applies to installer images. And I figured installer devs might
have an opinion if this is blocker worthy.

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test lists fedoraproject org/message/QAV3I2W6337ZW7CSYJYAU2SY3GL4KI6F/

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria#System_logging



-- 
Chris Murphy


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