KZPEA bios?

Tue Oct 26 22:49:35 UTC 2004

Dialup Jon Norstog wrote:

>Thank you Jay!
>
>I probably could have been a little clearer in my last post.
>
>On the XP1000 (SRM 5.9-1) the card is recognized in a "show config" as a pair
>of Adptec AIC 7899s living on bus 0 and identified as pkbXXX and pkcXXX
>However, the attached drives are not seen even in "SH config" 
>
>Neither the card nor the drives show up in "show dev"
>
>Under AlphaBios (5.70) the bios loaded on startup identifying itself by number
>(3.10) scanning its two buses and listing the drive information.  Once
>Alphabios started up, the SCSI controllers were initialized (again!) with the
>Adaptec being identified as "scsibios" and the disk as "scsibios controlled
>disk".  Under the PCI configuration feature, the card is listed as Adaptec,
>DevID=f620, twice. Alphabios can "see" the drive (configure hard drives
>feature) and I'm sure it's bootable although I didn't have NT loaded on the
>drives in question.  
>
>Perhaps something could be done under ALphabios using Lilo or Grub in a small
>FAT-formatted partition to load Linux?
>
>Just for the hell of it I loaded Tru64 5.1a on a drive attached to the Adaptec
>card. The installer identified the card and selected a driver for it
>("CHIM-something-or-other"), allowed me to format and install to the drive. 
>However when the machine did its post-install reboot SRM *still* could not see
>the drive and of course no boot took place.  
>
>On the early-model Miata Jay's advice to "set pci_device_override -1" worked
>like a charm and I was able to boot into SRM (7.2-1, SROM 5.90).  "Sh config"
>identified the card at bus 0, slot 11:
>
>vendor: 9005 device: c0 subid: f6209005
>
>otherwise results were as with the XP1000.
>
>Under AlphaBios (5.70) the results were as with the XP1000, except there was
>some instability until I disabled the PCI bus parity check in the Bios
>'advanced options."
>
>I have a late-model Miata (the one with the USB ports).  The results were the
>same except that there was no need to reset the pci_override from it default
>value of 0. 
>
>It is nice to kow there is nothing wrong with my card (or with me for that
>matter).  Maybe the thing to do is to boot from old disks on the Qlogic scsi
>bus, but run root, /usr and other stuff off the fast card.  
>
>There seems to be some good news and some bad news here.
>
>There are a lot of Adaptec 39160 cards on eBay right now, most of them listed
>as "dell" cards and selling in the $40 range.  On my card the proprietary "S"
>disappeared from the bios version after I flashed with a download from
>Adaptec, and the card was "read" by SRM in a manner identical to the
>$400-dollar KZPEA.  Tru64 had a driver for the card and I'll bet that when i
>get around to running it under Tru64 it will be identified as a KZPEA.
>
>I could not do much with the card under Linux.  Linux sees drives on the
>64-bit bus (bus 0) as prior to drives on the 32-bit bus, so the drives on the
>Adaptec became sda, sdb, etc.  My linux disk got moved down the chain to sdc,
>but the installation was still looking for its files on sda.  Perhaps there is
>a way to change the way Linux orders the drives it "sees" on the various buses?
>
>Fnally, I am puzzled why Compaq would have listed the KZPEA as an option for
>the XP1000 and not written a few lines of SRM code to get it working.  I'll
>bet a similar situation prevails with the late model KZPCC RAID controller. 
>It all seems so haphazard.
>
>Once again, thanks to Mr. Estabrook for the help.
>
>jn
>
>
>
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>On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 09:06:13AM -0600, Dialup Jon Norstog wrote:
>  
>
>>I recently eBayed an Adaptec 39160 scsi card, having read ion Hideki Goto's
>>page that it was "close enough" to the KZPEA to be recognized as such by the
>>XP1000 and some other newer boxes.
>>
>>On my XP1000, he one I got is recognized by SRM and AlphaBios as an Adaptec,
>>not the KZ.
>>    
>>
>
>Recognized as which Adaptec? My XP1000 (SRM v5.8) recognizes the
>CPQ-branded 39160 as chipset 7899, and never mentions KZPEA...
>
>  
>
>>I got my late-model PWS to recognize the card in a 64-bit slot as
>>well, but it did not read a brand name off the bios.
>>    
>>
>
>How were you accessing that?
>
>  
>
>>(On an early-model PWS SRM refused to load because of the "illegal
>>device" on the bus)
>>    
>>
>
>Um, try:
>
>        >>> set pci_device_override -1
>
>  
>
>>In both cases the "recognition" was in "show config."  The card nor
>>the drive attached to it did not show in "show device."
>>    
>>
>
>On both XP1000 and the PWS's?
>
>  
>
>>Under AlphaBios, the device and attached drives did show up and were
>>accessible.
>>    
>>
>
>Oh, for an XP1000 MILO... ;-}
>
>  
>
>>The Adaptec came with the 2.57 bios and an "S" code, which Adaptec' manual
>>says indicates it was a proprietary card.  I flashed with the 3.10 bios, which
>>took out the proprietary code.  This however has not helped things on the XP.
>>    
>>
>
>I'm not surprised, as (IIRC) only the latest SRMs on the latest platforms
>seem to be capable/enabled to run SCSI BIOSes. Earlier SRM did not depend
>on the BIOSes for anything, IIRC.
>
>  
>
>>Is there a Compaq BIOS for the KZPEA, and if so how can I get it?
>>    
>>
>
>AFAIK, there's not a COMPAQ-specific  BIOS for it.
>
>As another data point, I've tried some other Adaptec family members
>(29160/29160N, both of which use the 7892 chipset, and 2940U2W), and
>none are recognized by SRM.
>
>Sigh...
>
>Sorry, Jon, you may be stuck with booting from the QLogic or IDE... :-\
>
> --Jay++
>
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does anyone know what 64 bit pci multi channel scsi controller is 
supported by both srm on PC164 and VMS?